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Should we trust George W. Bush?
World Net Daily ^ | 8/29/02 | Harry Browne

Posted on 08/29/2002 1:00:30 PM PDT by feelin_poorly

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To: KentuckyWoman
Apparently you did not read the whole post, the jist of the argument was in the second article on that post. It stated that Joe Biden, a Democrap, submitted a proposal to the WH pertaining to an amendment to the PCA or Posse Commitatus Act, just in case you don't understand acronyms. Bush had the PCA reviewed to make sure Biden's proposal was not accurate in it's assertions. THAT was the story you heard. You apparently did not realize that Ridge and Rumsfeld, the Bush administration as you call them, rejected the idea. You know...you are the one that admitted you don't come here much any more...maybe if you did, you just might learn something...

And revisionist articles, I think not, the first part of that post is based on the law, not your paranoia...

541 posted on 08/29/2002 8:07:54 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: KentuckyWoman
When should we do something about Iraq? After he develops a nuclear weapon? After he supplies Al-Qaeda with Nukes? After he violates the soveriegnty of another nation?

Just in case you have forgotten, Saddam Hussain is a clear and present danger to us and the entire middle east. Saddam has publically said he supports all terrorist acts carried out against us as well as Israel. He even sends the $25,000 to the family of terrorist who carries out a suicide bombing. And you worry about his rights?

What the problem is with you 18th century patriots is you have trouble understanding that things have changed since the days of Thomas Paine and Thomas Jefferson. We face threats on a global scale now, and if you want to bury your head in the sand and ignore the fact that we are in a different world. You wont have to worry about our precious Constitution, because one of these dictators or religous finatics will get their hands on a nuke and use it against us. And if you think that Saddam, Osama, or Arafat wouldn't launch a nuke if they had the opportunity, you're living in a fantasy land.

The fact is we have to protect our freedoms by making sure the finatics in the world don't get their hands on weapons of mass destruction, No longer can we rely on the Pacific and the Atlantic Oceans to protect from an attack from abroad. Terrorist and those who support them rely upon people like you to make it easy for them to survive, because you would rather wrap yourself in the Constitution and wait for an attack than go after them before they do.

542 posted on 08/29/2002 8:07:55 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: AUgrad
>>1,000,000,000,000 X 0 = 0.

You Erred...The liberal's level of honesty is slightly LESS than zero, so, yes, it does compute.

543 posted on 08/29/2002 8:09:43 PM PDT by Wondervixen
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To: KentuckyWoman
Ninny? Now, like Howlin, I am beginning to doubt your age...does mommy know you are playing with her computer?
544 posted on 08/29/2002 8:10:00 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Torie
It had that unfortunate populist tone that well, does not comport with the facts, that gets my hair standing on end more than most statements of an ideological nature do

It was a simple explanation of a problem created by complex government rules, that the same government claims can only be solved by more complex government rules.

Some things are broke, such as the fact that the US perscription drug consumers basically pay for drug research that benefits the world, while Western Europe and Canada are free riders....

I wasn't aware of that, but it doesn't surprise me considering US taxpayers basically support the rest of the world one way or the other. The solution is to send the Canadians and Europeans the bill, not creating a massive new burearcracy.

545 posted on 08/29/2002 8:10:16 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: Mo1
"Bush likes to hear all sides of the argument before making a decision"

Most of the time, yes he does.

"I kind of like that .. if he was surrounded by a bunch of yes men .. then I would be worried .."

I wouldn't call the Pentegon and the Defense Department "yes" men, but I trust them to do what is necessary for the country. And who knows that the NSA has been up to lately, afterall, they are the spooks for the Defense Department, LOL. Anyway, Rumsfield is a tough guy and isn't afraid to do what's right. Powell on the other hand, would rather delegate until the end of the world, or until another catastrophic terrorist attack, to do anything worthwhile about Hussein.

546 posted on 08/29/2002 8:11:08 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: jwh_Denver
Amen Sister! I'll say it. Bush is evil!

I'm not ready to say that he is necessarily evil but he does seem to be a puppet of his "new world order" father (which is almost as bad). I have to take part of the responsibilty for the current state of affairs, though, 'cause I actually voted for him because Spotted Al Bore scared me worse. I see little hope of our Country being turned around any time in the near future because, as you can see from this thread, there are simply too many cheerleaders for the two major parties that don't really care what happens as long as they think 'their' guy is calling the shots never stopping to realize that pre-WWII Germany was also a Constitutional Republic that woke up one day to find themselves living under the regime of a tyrannical madman. Those who refuse to learn from history...

547 posted on 08/29/2002 8:13:09 PM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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To: KentuckyWoman
We give it up little by little. The sheeple don't whine until the killing gates.

Libs, even the ones with furry faces in the Universities, don't get the picture until they are offed in a firing squad.

Freedom teaches through history that it is fleeting, and not to be taken for granted.

548 posted on 08/29/2002 8:13:29 PM PDT by oldtimer
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To: MJY1288
They also stand on the sidelines and hold intellectual spittting contests while others defend their sorry asses.
549 posted on 08/29/2002 8:14:35 PM PDT by justshe
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Oh I think you know what I mean
550 posted on 08/29/2002 8:17:00 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: justshe
Yup, and give us a lecture on freedom, There is a name for this syndrome, it's called "Cranial Rectumitis"
551 posted on 08/29/2002 8:17:19 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: dark_lord
>>It is possible to be liberal (liberal == deluded) and honest. Plenty of dumb, ignorant, but honest people out there.

Wrong...To be a true "liberal", you have to buy into one or more of the liberal philosophies (ie; abortion rights. feminism, environmentalism, animal rights, global warming, tax cuts being only for the rich, etc).

Those who are deluded and who are honest but stupidly gullible are merely democrats who haven't officially been indoctrinated into liberalism.

552 posted on 08/29/2002 8:19:10 PM PDT by Wondervixen
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To: KentuckyWoman
I posted earlier that I had to go for a while and it had absolutely nothing to do with some post from you that I wasn't even aware existed.

Yeah right...caught you in another one, unless it was before 9:30 this morning sweetie...for some reason the search I did on "profile" and "find in forum" did not reveal anything before that...I did learn how vile you are...paranoia sucks and you apparently have anger management issues as well, I will pray for you...

553 posted on 08/29/2002 8:20:58 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: KentuckyWoman
The most New World Order'ish person on Bush's staff is Colin Powell. Powell would rather delegate until a nuclear or biological attack, to do anything worthwhile about Hussein.

Rumsfield and the Pentegon however, are not the New World Order types. I trust their advise to Bush and it seems to be to invade Iraq and kill Hussein. Obviously, putting a bounty on Hussein's head isn't doing the trick, so we are going to have to do it ourselves.

You forget that the U.S. Constitution does allow the President the Constitutional authority to send U.S. troops overseas without the authorization of Congress. After a certain amount of time, if Congress still doesn't like it, our troops will come home. In time though, I believe that President Bush will have the full support of Congress. He already has the support of the majority of American people at this point.

554 posted on 08/29/2002 8:21:30 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: KentuckyWoman
Given your ignorance and confusion about the Barbary wars I probably shouldn't confuse you further with Washington's war on the indians, or Adams' Quasi war with France, which in addition to Jefferson's war on the Barbary pirates, were ALL done by mere congressional authorizations .

Apparently out of ignorance and not malice, you are rewriting history and the actions of our Founders to create a new Constitution that conforms to your view.
But to a lover of the Constitution our Founders bequethed us it is their deeds and words that illuminate and define the document.

It is a shame you don't want to learn about our Founders, you might not like all they did but even a moderate effort to learn about them would enhance your understanding of the Constitution and politics in general.

555 posted on 08/29/2002 8:21:38 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Mo1
He didn't really mean to kill thousand and thousands of his OWN people ..

He didn't think those chemicals would kill people when he tested them out

Noooooooooooooooooo .. Saddam is a realllly nice guy who meant no harm .. it was just an accident and he didn't really mean it when he declare war on Americans .. he was just misunderstood

Hmm.. did our government's burning of civilians at WACO give another government some right to come in here and overthrow our government? What about the murder of Vicky Weaver and all the no-knock raids gone wrong? What about the poisoning of American soldiers with untested 'vaccinations' that have now been proven to be deadly? If these atrocities by our government (plus, remember, WE have nukes, too) don't give carte blanche to some other country to do fly-overs and inspections here, what makes you think that we are justified? Because we're on the side of right? Who gets to decide? You? Me? The UN? oh puhleeze.

556 posted on 08/29/2002 8:23:03 PM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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To: lonestar
Luv it!-- "numbnuts"

Ahhh...brings back memories...that is how I got my "nick", LOL!

557 posted on 08/29/2002 8:23:04 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: KentuckyWoman

558 posted on 08/29/2002 8:25:24 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: VaBthang4
ROTFLMAO!
559 posted on 08/29/2002 8:26:07 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Howlin
KentuckyWoman-
Then kindly explain to me why so many posters (many of which had been posting here a LONG time and were well thought of) have been banned during the last few months for nothing more than posting something that questioned something the current administration is doing?

You'll have to take that up with Jim Robinson.-H

You are a wimp. Can't even say censorship.

CATO

560 posted on 08/29/2002 8:26:41 PM PDT by Cato
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