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Lies My Teacher Told Me: The True History of the War for Southern Independence
http://www.abbevilleinstitute.org ^ | July 22, 2014 | Clyde Wilson

Posted on 05/12/2015 3:00:03 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: Sherman Logan
It was Virginia's tardiness in secession that trapped Maryland, which had its legislators kept under house arrest at Ft. McHenry by the Federals, and they were not permitted to vote on secession. By any definition, Maryland had been occupied by a hostile force.

None of the current states with Federal institutions are effectively shut down by that presence.

201 posted on 05/13/2015 9:58:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Trillian

something good for the kids???


202 posted on 05/13/2015 10:08:57 AM PDT by Conservative4Life (I'm not too worried, I've read the book and know how it all ends...We win)
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To: Ingtar

What that says is that the 2nd Maine was mustered out, but some of the men in it still had time on their ticket, presumably because they signed up later than the rest. They refused to bear arms and were arrested. Chamberlain apparently talked most of them into fighting.


203 posted on 05/13/2015 10:16:43 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Ingtar
Hmm. Seems to me that there was a rebellion by soldiers in the 2nd Maine who signed up for one year and had it extended without their consent.

No, part of the regiment had signed up for three years and part for two. When the two year enlistements ran out the three-year men were transferred to the 20th Maine. Nobody had their enlistments forcibly extended because unlike the Confederacy the Union never resorted to that.

204 posted on 05/13/2015 10:17:51 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Smokin' Joe

You are again confusing the timeline. The arrests of officials occurred after and in response to the attacks on soldiers, burning of bridges, etc.


205 posted on 05/13/2015 10:20:11 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: DoodleDawg

Well said.


206 posted on 05/13/2015 11:18:58 AM PDT by jmacusa (`)
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To: DoodleDawg

Yeah that one did an intellectual and historical whiplash on me.


207 posted on 05/13/2015 11:20:30 AM PDT by jmacusa (`)
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To: Sherman Logan
The arrests of officials occurred after and in response to the attacks on soldiers, burning of bridges, etc.

I think it's even later than that. The events he is talking about occurred in September 1861, after the Confederacy had started the war. So in effect the disloyal members of the Maryland legislature were advocating a vote to join in the war against the U.S. Treason by any definition of the word, much less the definition outlined in the Constitution. So what should the U.S. have done? As it was the treasonous legislators got off easier than they deserved.

208 posted on 05/13/2015 11:20:56 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: central_va

Lee and Washington are interchangeable men in history.

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Well, except for at least one thing.

One of them was victorious in bringing about change.

George Washington is the Father of our Country, not the Father of that portion of our Country which happens to be below the Potomac River.

Since this thread has devolved into pretending which way Washington would have gone vis a vis the Civil War, it is obvious that Washington would have been greatly offended by the South choosing to break away, undoing all the blood sweat and tears that went into forming the USA.


209 posted on 05/13/2015 11:26:44 AM PDT by dmz
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To: central_va

Boy I’ll bet you wish you had a “Way Back Machine’’, huh?


210 posted on 05/13/2015 11:27:47 AM PDT by jmacusa (`)
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To: onedoug

How about America. Have any love for her?


211 posted on 05/13/2015 11:29:07 AM PDT by jmacusa (`)
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To: rockrr

Imagine if you told them that five minutes after Pickett’s Charge.


212 posted on 05/13/2015 11:31:09 AM PDT by jmacusa (`)
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To: dmz

Washington and Lee are cut from the same cloth.


213 posted on 05/13/2015 11:41:34 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: jmacusa

My post is quite clear.


214 posted on 05/13/2015 11:42:44 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: rockrr

Do you really think the Southern soldiers even talked about slavery during the war? It was a non factor.


215 posted on 05/13/2015 11:43:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

That doesn’t mean that the south didn’t go to war to defend the Particular Institution.


216 posted on 05/13/2015 11:51:35 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: jmacusa

I don’t think it much mattered. When you got right down to cases I think the rebs just loved a good scrap.


217 posted on 05/13/2015 11:54:26 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: onedoug
To you it is,not to me. You're referring to a particular part of the country. I asked you if you love America.
218 posted on 05/13/2015 12:24:13 PM PDT by jmacusa (`)
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To: central_va

You had your ear to the ground in them days, didn’t you General?


219 posted on 05/13/2015 12:25:01 PM PDT by jmacusa (`)
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To: jmacusa

A lot of people confuse FedGov™ with America. Is it possible to hate FedGov™ and still be a patriotic American? Well is it?


220 posted on 05/13/2015 12:26:43 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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