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800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers
AFP/Dublin/Yahoo News ^ | 06/042014 | unknown

Posted on 06/04/2014 9:51:45 PM PDT by boatbums

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To: TalBlack
Once you have strolled a few of these sections you will have no problem understanding how fragile life was over those 40 years and you will require a hell of a lot more than just numbers to infer some kind of wrong-doing.

Even today, life is fragile, but that doesn't make it any less sacred. Do you see a difference in attitude between cemetery sections filled with the dead, marked by photos on stone and constructed in a way that honors the precious life lost, and the dumped into a used septic tank, body after body of babies and young children, unmarked, unnoted, ungrieved, left there to only be discovered accidentally by kids playing, who will be haunted by the gruesome sight the rest of their lives??? I sure can. The missing piece is compassion. That is something people EXPECT of an organization professing to be Christian. I don't think that expectation is out of place. Almighty God is the judge and He knows the secret things and the things hidden.

Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account. (Daniel 2:22)

121 posted on 06/05/2014 2:22:36 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: Petrosius; Morgana
To put them in a septic tank so runoff in a the local water supply?

It was a converted septic tank, i.e. no longer in use as such. As a mass grave is was merely an underground cement vault.

It was a used septic tank left where it was, covered with a cracked cement top, and found by some school kids who were playing in the area:

    "When I was doing the research, someone mentioned there was a graveyard there for babies but I found out there was more to it than that."

    Corless also said in 1995 several boys had found the mass grave, which lay beneath a cracked piece of concrete.

    "The boys told me it had been filled to the brim with human skulls and bones. They said even to this day they still have nightmares of finding the bodies." (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/galway-horror-800-dead-babies-found-septic-tank-173247464.html#4F5aKPJ


122 posted on 06/05/2014 2:33:54 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: Gene Eric
I don’t go out of my way to bash my fellow Christians. Absurd use of the Nazi characterization doesn’t negate the reality of Catholic resistance to the Nazis that also had problems with Catholicism. The Nazis didn’t like the Jews. Didn’t Like Catholics.

Do you ignore that Nazis were an ATHEISITIC cadre? They were no more favorable towards Protestants than they were to Catholics. To suggest that born-again Protestants would have been willing, Jew-killing Nazis is no more realistic than Pope Benedict being a proud member of the Hitler Youth group.

Legitimate concerns are raised concerning the Church. But the opportunistic hostility is a different matter — a bitter, small-minded game that can be played by both sides. Is that what you want? I’d be more than happy to dig out crap on whatever Christian derivative you wave above your head.

In case you didn't notice, this is a current event and one that caught my interest. I would have posted it whether it was Catholic OR Protestant news. The only hostility I am seeing here is that of small-minded Catholic who detest any hint of criticism directed towards their church. Don't presume you know everyone's motives.

123 posted on 06/05/2014 3:28:24 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: boatbums

>> They were no more favorable towards Protestants than they were to Catholics.

BS.

Have fun with your “current event” and unrelenting whining about the Church.

FRegards.


124 posted on 06/05/2014 3:53:00 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

U 2!


125 posted on 06/05/2014 4:17:46 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: boatbums

“...Do you see a difference in attitude “

I see a huge difference in circumstances.

I see the attitude of Nuns devoting their lives to the care and comfort of “the least of Mine”. They didn’t have 365 acres and tens of millions of dollars to lavish on dust. Dust over which they likely grieved and prayed. Wouldn’t the all seeing God have seen that?

What do we know of the resources of this order? Were they wallowing in cash? Doubtful. I’d guess that those poor people got all the burial the Nuns could arrange for them.


126 posted on 06/05/2014 5:00:55 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: TalBlack

We don’t know much about the money situation, or if Nuns also starved to death, or if their pensions were reduced, or if they appealed to Rome for some money to feed the children, or grew gardens and raised animals or what.


127 posted on 06/05/2014 5:54:29 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Sloth; Jed Eckert; Recovering Ex-hippie; KingOfVagabonds; Berlin_Freeper; UnRuley1; mlizzy; ...

“I challenge you to name a more disrespectful location and manner of burial.”

OK. Here you go:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2088709/Third-world-America-Pics-paupers-grave-Chicago.html

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/14/melinda-hunt-follows-nycs-lonely-dead-to-hart-island/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2066991/Tragedy-100-000-buried-paupers-graves-past-years.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10584884/Paupers-funerals-making-comeback-as-families-exploit-loophole-to-save-funeral-costs.html


128 posted on 06/05/2014 6:28:14 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: boatbums

129 posted on 06/05/2014 6:29:09 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: narses

You are comparing actual burials to dumping bodies in a septic tank.

Do you know what a septic tank is?

I will be having simple burial my self, with a cheap coffin, but I won’t be rolled naked into a septic tank crammed with bodies.


130 posted on 06/05/2014 6:42:11 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

“Do you know what a septic tank is?”

Duh.

You really are not very bright, are you?


131 posted on 06/05/2014 6:43:49 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: narses

Bright enough to not confuse being dumped in one, with receiving a simple coffin and a simple burial.


132 posted on 06/05/2014 6:47:03 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: narses

thanks for the facts..of course to Catholic bashers..facts aren’t needed..funny how they behave exactly like the libs they despise. ha.


133 posted on 06/05/2014 6:54:16 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: ansel12

Be sure not to die a pauper then. Naked and unwanted and a mass grave awaits those who do.


134 posted on 06/05/2014 7:09:21 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Facts matter - to grown ups. Haters and dullards, not so much.


135 posted on 06/05/2014 7:09:53 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: narses

A coffin and a burial, not being rolled into the septic tank.


136 posted on 06/05/2014 7:22:38 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Keep reading...


137 posted on 06/05/2014 7:24:57 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: ansel12

In many times and many places, no coffin for the poor. And the Irish were poor. Really poor. Those that you look down their nose across time at those folks speaks volumes about the lack of charity they have. But then hatred and charity are enemies.


138 posted on 06/05/2014 7:29:28 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: ansel12
Imagine the vitriol had this been a Religion Forum thread! The logic some people display here confirms the truism:

If a wise man contends with a foolish man, whether the foolish man rages or laughs, there is no rest. (Prov. 29:9)

139 posted on 06/05/2014 7:29:52 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: narses

Don’t pretend that people are talking about pauper burials and cheap coffins, or being wrapped in linen, they are talking about dumping children’s bodies into a septic tank.

Hatred and bigotry is how you are responding to this breaking news story.

Right now you should be supporting efforts to get the Irish government to investigate this historians discovery.


140 posted on 06/05/2014 7:37:49 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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