Posted on 02/25/2013 9:25:42 PM PST by Seizethecarp
That would still be shooting too high.
Pawns need to fall before kings and rooks do.
The pawns in the game need to feel threatened or else this is all moot.
What pressure?
These people need to get formally interviewed under threat of jail for lying....
- Janice Okubo
- Joe Miller
- Jess Henig
- Unnamed employee for Brennan’s firm that accessed (likely altered) passport records in 2008.
- Gilardy H William Jr.
And other ‘lesser’ players. If they feel safe then those at higher levels have no worries. They are insulated.
You start on the outside and work your way in. Overshoot and be wrong and everyone feels safe. There has been 5 years of overshooting. The results are obvious.
It's half as far to Nairobi which is a modern city. If 'granny' Sarah was present at the birth of Barack Hussein Obama, that child would have been the son of the first wife of Onyango, her name was Akumu iirc, she was the mother of the kenyan student. And yes, on second thoughts it might be possible that birth took place in Mombasa, but just how the family, which would have comprised of Onyango, his pregnant first wife and his wife number two, Sarah...all ended up in Mombasa at a festival during which time they went to the beach...in 1934 or 1936 (the kenyan student had TWO birth years) seems like a logistical nightmare.
As an Australian I stay away from your legal system, I really don’t understand how it works.
It doesn’t seem to work at all, is what I see.
hello fred, Ive been reading up on the kenya villages - It is very possible that she could have had the child in the village- they did that all the time- back in the day, there were no hospitals there-
It used to be a bushy untamed village with no tarmacked roads, no electricity, no water piping, no hospitals, and only skeletal schools where pupils and students sit on stones and classes were taught under trees without books and other materials for learning.
http://www.newtimes.dk/showarticle.php?mode=show&id=217
Primitive yes, but that goes for most of african villages. It doesn’t mean they are filthy. And if anyone had a child in the village - a child named Barack Hussein Obama, it would have been Akumu, the first wife of the Elder Obama Onyango, who gave birth to the kenyan student in either 1934 or 1936 depending on which birth year you believe.
If you ever listened to the first garbled translated recording of the telephone interview, you would have heard ‘granny’ Sarah attempting to make it clear that the Barack Hussein Obama she was talking about when she said she was there at his birth, WAS THE KENYAN STUDENT.
IOW, what did they know and when did they know it?
This is the lifestyle anna would have lived in that kenya village in the early 60’s. It accually would have been worse than this because it had no roads just foot trails- the chances of her having little barry in the village would be a good chance== sorry i called them filty—
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fqjHcdGCUs
Anna appears to have been the student who enrolled at the U of HI in THE FALL OF 1960. She was listed as a resident at the birth announcement address in the Polk directory as Ann S Obama (Student) and then shows up in Seattle in the 1961-1962 directory in Capitol Hill as ANNA OBAMA where Mary says she babysat for her when her own daughter who was born in July 1959 was 18 months of age.
That would indicate that ANN/ANNA was in Hawaii until late 1960 or very early 1961.
Just when would she have had the time to travel back and forth to Kenya?
How? Who paid?
The kenyan student had no money. He was then dependant upon Elizabeth Mooney-Kirk and the Laubach Society for living expenses.
I dont know— hmmmm.. all these dates are making my head hurt.. let me regroup a bit. gonna take a break for a bit
Oh, give it up...I tried to explain to you that the Elder Obama Onyango was a relative of Jaramoghi Odinga, who history tells you (if you care to check it out) was the nemesis of Tom Mboya. The Mboya family and the Odinga family had an enmity which went back a number of generations. Oginga Odinga was the one who obtained scholarships for Kenyan students from the communist Patrice Lumumba university in Moscow, where he sent one of his own sons, whom he named Fidel Castro.
It was Oginga Odinga, father or Raila Odinga, now Prime Minister of Kenya, who visited Malcolm X in Atlanta in 1960, as a result of which Oginga became somewhat of a cult hero to American blacks.
The friendship promoted between Tom Mboya and the kenyan student is a myth, Tom had nothing to do with the kenyan student coming to Hawaii, he was already there when the first airlift aircraft landed at Idelwild.
You’ve been played and lied to from the get-go.
You think because the village had no roads or plumbing or electric power, these people were unambitious sloths?
Far from it. You need background. Lots of it. I think it’s known as HISTORY. There’s a whole heap of it at the link I provided.
Recognize anyone?
Unknown — 1961 — Stanley Ann Disappears
It is easy to demonstrate that Stanley Ann was not in Hawaii during the first part of 1961. She stopped attending classes at the University. According to the records of the University of Hawaii, Stanley Ann dropped out at the end of the fall semester.
We know the Dunhams were still living at 2277 Kamehameha Ave. — a few blocks from the university. If Stanley Ann was in Hawaii, and living with her parents as the Wood note suggests, it would be reasonable to conclude she would have continued with her studies. She would have completed the spring semester around her sixth month. Even pregnant, she could have easily finished out her freshman year.
So where was she?
http://theobamafile.com/_opinion/LegendOfBarackObama.htm
The marriage later broke up after Anna’s father opposed it, according to Mama Sarah.
“Anna’s father was furious about the marriage and threatened to have Obama Snr expelled from the university. Our son sent us letters, pleading that we intervene to save the marriage,” remembers Sarah.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200408160533.html?page=4
she was in kenya
Who was in Kenya? Who was Ann S Obama? Who was Anna Obama? Who did Mary babysit for in January 1961? If it was for Anna Obama, then the child she said she saw was conceived BEFORE Stanley Ann Dunham GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL.
It’s Sunday here, I’m going out for lunch, you’re not the only one who needs a break. Bye.
chichen head:
Below is an FR thread put up by GregNH which has Barry’s step-grandmother quoted as saying “Even the US president passed through my hands.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2507422/posts
The linked story is from The Sunday Nation:
I believe that her reference in the tape to being in Mombasa when the president was born is corroborated by this quote.
Barry’s father, BHO Sr., was NOT the subject of the Mombasa birth conversation, IMO.
Just like thinking we were going to beat him at the ballot box he will NOT go away after his second term is up. If you think Carter and Clinton were bad post-presidency then you haven't seen anything yet. He needs to be exposed.
Even the US president passed through my hands.
There’s a custom that when a new child enters the clan, that child is passed from hand to hand to all the clan members. Barack Hussein Obama ‘passed through my hands’ describes that ceremony.
The question you need to answer is, just who was the Barack Hussein Obama who passed through her hands?
Was it the same Barack Hussein Obama with whom Malik says he remembers playing with when they were boys? The same Barack Hussein Obama who Malik says taught school in Uganda?
maybe the current occupant of the white house is “some djakarta street kid”.
We’ve seen who he may NOT be, looking at each theory and finding the hole in it.
What’s the most possible parentage for this “kid”? (by his behaviour he still is one)
And just who was ‘granny’ Sarah talking about when she said that Barack Hussein Obama came to his father’s funeral?
http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/was_barack.htm
Zero didn’t go to Kenya (with SAD and Alice Dewey in tow) until when? 1987 or 1988?
You ask questions, there are theories. You want to hear the answers, I’m trying to start at the beginning. If I tell you the punch-line to the joke/story, you’ll want me to go back and explain how it happened.
Telling the punchline doesn’t work.
And I cannot explain a theory while at every turn, someone pops up and says;
HE WAS BORN IN KENYA.
HIS FATHER WAS FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS.
STANLEY ARMOUR HAD A BLACK GIRLFRIEND.
They are all dead ends. Let me ask you, what do you think is more important...being seen to be clever, having the last word, or being presented with information that allows you to reach your own conclusions?
That’s all I have been trying to do for at least two years.
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