Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.
But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.
And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.
And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.
That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.
Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.
Kevmo:
Why did you take so long to finally come to grips with the fact that Jesus claimed to be God Himself? And why the vitriol in the process? It doesn’t add up.
SF:
You didn’t say “claimed.” You said FACT — JESUS IS G-D. ***I said “claimed” plenty of times. PLENTY of times. Lurkers will verify this. That makes you wrong, wrong, wrong.... wrong wrong wrong.
Do you intend to go on with this dishonest horse manure approach? Your own soul could be at stake, and you go out of your way to LIE about this stuff. Breaking one of the 10 commandments aint cool when your soul might be at stake. So drop the bull shiite. Be real. Otherwise I might just let God leave you to His own consequences with respect to this stuff.
When you did that, what did you learn about the Jewish, Atheist, and Muslim vote?
Jews don’t recruit outside of other Jews (i.e. secular). As long as your faith and beliefs as a non-Jew match up with the seven Noahide laws, you’re good.
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What? Here we are preaching something antithetical to the jewish faith, and we’re good? You yourself said that Messiah was not God. We say that Jesus was Messiah and that He IS God. It is blasphemy to the jewish faith, plain and simple.
Frankly, you’re sometimes all over the map. This is pretty simple stuff, and you don’t seem to have a grasp of it.
Fill us in.
Do the Jews, Muslims, and Atheists all vote almost exactly the same for instance?
Are you serious about investigating this? Or are you going to continue to try to find ways of wiggling out of it?
***Looks to me like you’re wiggling out of it. You’re not serious. You aren’t honest with yourself.
I can understand. When jews think about what it would take to become a christian, they think of how they’ll be shunned by their peers, their family. It is a high price to pay. When Jesus told us to take up our own cross, it meant the price could even include our own lives. But our souls are worth more than that.
Now that I’ve answered every single one of your questions — What is YOUR religion?
***You have NOT answered every single one of my questions, maybe 1/3 if we’re lucky. But to answer this question, my religion is very basic non-denominational christian. I belong to a spiritual program, not a religious one. I used to be atheist. I came across these historical issues and questions and came to the rational conclusion that Jesus was Who He said He was.
What difference does it make to you what ‘religion’ is mine?
I’m glad to see you’re sending folks to the religious forums.
As far as I can tell, most of the invective from ABO types came from freepers who never seem to visit those forums. Most of them were completely unaware of the level of debate that has been going on.
As I said, not our book. It’s yours.
***That does not answer the question. What does it take to get you to be honest, to be real?
“What difference does it make to you what ‘religion’ is mine?”
I would think that for purposes of discussion, having your chosen religion be public knowledge would be most helpful.
Unless you are ashamed of it, or you don’t have one.
sf4dubya has been open and honest, and has requested the same from you.
I don’t know why you won’t give an answer to a perfectly acceptable question.
Admin Moderator, isn’t it way past time that this thread be moved to the religion forum?
Or, to oblivion?
Kevmo:
What? Here we are preaching something antithetical to the jewish faith, and we’re good?
SF
Yup. Why is this such a hard concept for you to understand?
***It’s the first I’ve heard of it. And the link you provided doesn’t really answer the question. I could provide you with links that require you to spend 8 hours reading, as well. So, again, I’m asking you to be real in this discourse. It seems like that is a difficult thing for you.
Then here’s the catch. You say Christians are OK. Christians say Jews need to accept Christ to be OK. Mormons say christians and jews aint okay, they need to accept this heretical teaching that is antithetical to judaism AND christianity. Pascal’s wager would say... jews need to accept Christ, Christians are already okay, and mormons need to pull their heads out their posteriors.
Not only that, but the history behind all these claims favors christianity. When we look at the jewish site you provided, they say such bullshiite stuff as “if Jesus really did exist”, which no historian would ever propogate.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2056400/posts
In addition, there is basically ZERO evidence that the stuff which the mormons say is true about injuns, Jesus, missing tribes, etc. So, once again, Pascal’s wager says that jews need to jump over, mormons need to pull it out, and christians are okay.
What’s your religion
***As I’ve stated, I’m non-demoninational christian.
You’re a yenta?
L’chaim!
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