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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

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To: surfer

Sorry..but I am serious. I don’t believe for a second that there is that deep of a conspiracy involving members of the Bush administration(unless they were dem moles to begin with).

I DO believe that Obama is hiding his BC...and a whole lot of other records,but for what reason.. is not clear yet. Here is what I do know..The Truth Always Rises To The Surface and it will here too.


8,181 posted on 08/08/2009 2:19:24 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire
Just curious if they give a reason that the Bush Administration would have gone along with this whole thing? It is kind of strange to remember the financial meltdown last fall and all of the strange things Bush was doing..like he had a gun to his head or something.

No. They gave no reason. That was mentioned in the middle of Hour 2 just before Judi McLeod signed off. They said "members of the Bush Administration and even George Bush, himself". I didn't know what to think.

8,182 posted on 08/08/2009 2:24:04 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Corazon
Writing for the six-judge majority of Wong Kim Ark, Justice Gray began by noting that the Constitution uses the terms "citizen of the United States" and "natural-born citizen of the United States," but does not define them.

As a result, following the Court in Minor v. Happersett (1875), he turned to the common law. Operating according to jus soli, English common law declared that all children born within the king's realm were subjects of the king except those born of foreign ambassadors or of alien enemies occupying part of the king's dominions, since such children could not be said to be "born within the allegiance, the obedience, or the power, or, as would be said at this day, within the jurisdiction of the King."

Common law doctrine, Gray asserted, was simply adopted by the United States.

The Fourteenth Amendment did not change that situation; it merely reaffirmed it in such a way as to overturn Taney's Dred Scott ruling that limited United States citizenship to whites. The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was included for two reasons. First, it emphasized the common law exceptions of children of ambassadors and occupying armies. Second, it excluded "children of members of the Indian tribes, standing in a peculiar relation to the National Government, unknown to the common law".


SO, who CAN define "Natural born citizen", once and for all?

It SHOULD be Congress. However, in nearly 30 such attempts to define the phrase since the 1870s, such codification has NEVER made it out of committee. Additionally, with more than 17 Amendments to the Constitution since 1789, including 5 Amendments (12th, 20th, 22nd, 23rd, 25th) that deal directly with the office of president, no attempt to define "Natural born citizen" has ever been attempted. Even when Congressman Abercrombie slipped "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii" in the non-binding H.R. 593, he stopped short on defining Omama as a citizen, and certainly NOT a "Natural born citizen".

Because of the Legislature's OBVIOUS inability to come to an agreement on this subject, the Supreme Court seems as the only neutral body that can decide this question. In the same way they finally defined "to keep and bear arms" in District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), they are the only body that can resolve the matter on how the Framers defined "Natural born citizen".

8,183 posted on 08/08/2009 2:30:15 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: GregNH

You post info from a marijuana source website and expect me to believe it?


8,184 posted on 08/08/2009 2:30:31 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: GregNH
This just in. Bush judges throw out Obama birth certificate lawsuit...calls it frivolous

. This is not just in:

And "But "advised Mr. Craig to seek leave to amend his complaint"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2310719/posts?page=20#20

Although he didn't rule for the plaintiff he did offer an opinion. Natural Born Citizens are NOT Native Born Citizens.

8,185 posted on 08/08/2009 2:31:01 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Sounds like BS to me. That kind of stuff just gives the ‘birther’ movement a bad name imho. We should just stick to the facts. The facts are that Obama has not released his real BC..he is hiding many other records that should have been vetted. He may have never been eligible to begin with, because of his father’s citizenship.There are constitutional issues here at stake. End of argument. The rest is just silly talk, unless there is solid proof put on the table.


8,186 posted on 08/08/2009 2:31:17 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: John Valentine
Yep, never use two words when eight will do, as James Madison was always fond of saying.

If they had used my eight words, would Obama be President today? Nope.

Words mean things. Precision in writing is a virtue. People can understand what you mean.

8,187 posted on 08/08/2009 2:33:03 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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To: rodguy911
Is there anything we can link to that shows the White House intimidation of tv nets or persons?

Just Judi McLeod's article in Canda Free Press so far and the Laurie Roth radio links further up on this thread. She says that more information will be released next week. They are being really careful about this.

8,188 posted on 08/08/2009 2:35:24 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: jamese777

Just got back from the range. Feeling MUCH better, scumbag.


8,189 posted on 08/08/2009 2:37:25 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

LoL!


8,190 posted on 08/08/2009 2:39:42 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: m4629; afraidfortherepublic
Content was good, presentation was lousy.

About a year ago I listened in on one of Ed Hales radio shows and even through the radio I knew he wasn't being truthful. I say that because I'm wondering- as you were listening- if there was anything you heard that gave you pause- that gave you a sense that you were hearing the truth or not?

To me- this is the single most frightening claim to come out of this whole exhausting year of COLB investigations. If it IS true- then it really needs to be brought out ASAP- and security given to the people involved. If they really have documents proving these claims- the implications are beyond belief and it's time some grownups with guts stood up and said ENOUGH.

8,191 posted on 08/08/2009 2:40:27 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: hoosiermama

Dunno ..


8,192 posted on 08/08/2009 2:44:34 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: SE Mom

I will say that both guests were being cagy. But, it came across as if it were to protect themselves, as well as their informants. The comment about the Bush Administration set me on my heels, but after I thought about it I realized that I had noticed the same things — a bend-over-backwards effort to be solicitous and gracious to the incoming President.

Did I mention that most of these threats occurred during the period after the election and before the inauguration? McLeod and Hagmann have spent the intervening months chasing down corroborating testimony.


8,193 posted on 08/08/2009 2:50:47 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: patlin

In 2007, Obama voted with his fellow Democrats 97 percent of the time. In 2006, his score was 96, and in 2005, he again netted a 97 percent rating.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23276453/ns/politics-decision_08/


8,194 posted on 08/08/2009 2:51:45 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Red Steel

It’s certainly ramping up.

Hard to not sit down and check FR many times a day...


8,195 posted on 08/08/2009 2:53:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: penelopesire

I would assume that some on the Bush team wanted to make nice with the incoming administration for their own career advancement, to stay on the in crown in DC, perhaps paid, perhaps afraid - eunuchs - perhaps were always on the Dems side.


8,196 posted on 08/08/2009 2:57:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: GregNH

Hard to take you seriously with this at the site to which you linked: “SEE OUR MARIJUANA SEED GUIDE FOR THE BEST STRAINS”


8,197 posted on 08/08/2009 2:57:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: little jeremiah
There was a convergence of very bad things that prevented Caheney and Bush from dealing with the lying POIE now in the Oval Office. The economic crisis was so bad and the bailout process so vital in Bush's mind to prevent the ruin of the economy, he would not then do something which the extortionist Chicago thuggery that is the obamanation would exploit with riots and burning cities.

At this stage in the affirmative action bastard's time in office, having openly threatened citizens fro opposing his Marxist policies, the possibilities of actual major riots is much diminsihed. People were under a spell whicvh has now been broken by the revelation that this Marxist prick is more than willing to attack the citizenry to get his way ... and that will not stand so long as the scumbag hasn't got the army to enforce his hellish dreams from his father, the father of lies, a murderer from the start.

8,198 posted on 08/08/2009 3:08:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Pmb09

Something is blocking the archied show. Can’t get it to open ... ‘Internet explorer cannot open this page’


8,199 posted on 08/08/2009 3:14:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: STARWISE

“Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage” is what one gets when clicking on any of the three hours. The obamanoid slugs have slimed it!


8,200 posted on 08/08/2009 3:15:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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