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Just Say NO to Mcbama and Ocain! [thread left up as a pinata, rules suspended-Jim]
Gentlewood Journal ^ | 10-27-2008 | Dan Jacobson

Posted on 10/29/2008 11:56:01 AM PDT by agrandis

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To: agrandis

WOW. Excellent.

Remember during the primaries we kept seeing that Juan Hernandez pic here...now it’s nowhere to be found.

If ever I had an inkling of willingness to vote for McCain, this article completely obliterated that.

Bush is quite a bit better than McCain, and I regret voting for Bush, why should I vote for McCain?!

It’s insanity.


321 posted on 10/30/2008 7:34:38 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: netmilsmom
And Darlin' I worked too long with patients needing treatment for Narcissistic Personality Disorder to treat you for free. There are meds for this, you should check them out. Ask your provider for a script

If you only knew what I do lady if you only knew. :>{ I;'ve seen one too persons many suffer needlessly and recklessly in the hands of fools with a happy script pad. Yea I'll stand up even to a doctor and say to them they are wrong when I have ample evidence saying so. Been there done that saved a life for having a spine enough to dare question establishment. Actually I stood up to about 6 at one time as well as taking on the state they called trying to get a involuntary commital to a mental institutie because some idiots did not recognize Serotonin Syndrome even after they induced it. It was for someone I love more dearly than life itself.

322 posted on 10/30/2008 8:06:32 PM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: cva66snipe

Serotonin Syndrome

Care to enlighten me? If it’s too personal, you don’t have to answer.


323 posted on 10/30/2008 8:18:52 PM PDT by JavaJumpy (GO SARAHCUDA, GO!)
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To: JavaJumpy
No problem I don't want anyone else to go through that hell. My wife as some know is a quad. She needed to have her teeth extracted but had a horrid fear of entist due to a bad experience from an adverse medication reaction where the dentist used Mepraghan {sp} for a simple extraction. She went into a hypodermic Coma because of it.<{> So she seeks a shrinks help. He gives her Trazodone and Zoloft for PTSD plus she was on Xanax as well for anxiety and what was believed to be an anxiety induced valve closure in her heart. {Thank goodness for small miracles to be explained in a moment}

She did OK till the medication began to build up. Actually it took several months as each person is different. One day she began becoming highly agitated and confused. I made a call to the shrink and he saw her that afternoon. He upped the dosage of Zoloft after a 5 minute session. When we got home she tells me she sees Satan.

So I load her up and off to the ER we go. Now several things could be happening. I was thinking maybe stroke due to her history. We get to the ER and the attending checks her and without even ordering so much as bloodwork or CAT SCAN says cal the state she's psychotic. I said doc please do some work ups fist and call her primary care doctor as well. He said no. I'm calling the state and she is to be committed to a mental institute. I called in the family then I tried to find her. They had moved her to another exam room with a guard on the door as if she could escape. {I had disabled her electric powered chair}.

I found her slumped over unresponsive pupils fixed and non responsive as well. I yelled for the doctor and help STAT. {I have worked in nursing homes} The doctor just stands there. I said doc she's out cold do something. At that point by law I could sign for any and all treatment he said no. I said you stupid ##### what sort of mental condition comes on this fast and put the patient unconscious? He just stood there. I told a family member to watch her I was getting the van to get her out of there.

Next stop was a level one hospital. They were highly eager to treat her as she was unconscious upon arrival. They got her back around and I told them what had happened. that attending as wel;l starts the committal song and dance and evaded the same questions. Again I asked for her primary care doctor to be notified and was refused.

The state came in a few hours later and I warned them that I would hold all responsible for her care. The declined the hospitals request. The next day in walks a shrink who never saw her before and in about 5 minutes says Up the Zoloft. That was to start the next day.

That nigh about 48 hours into it she came back to normal. No hallucinations just somewhat confused as anyone would be. The next day at noon I went home for a shower. In walks the nurse with the Zoloft right before I leave. When I get home i call back to a family member in the room and she's tripping again. That night was pure hell for her and me. She was thrashing and talking. But the talking was making sense. It was like someone put her brain in rewind. The only thing I could not understand was her saying I must reveal myself. The next afternoon I again go home and as usual stopped at the Chapel on the way out to pray.

I got home and remembered some old FR threads. I got on line and typed in Zoloft +Tradodone +adverse reaction why I don't know. But the first hit was an article on Serotonin Syndrome which ironically the hospital where she was at pharmacology professor wrote. Iread it and readf a few more to make certain of what I was reading. I called my dad who was in the room with her and said I know whats wrong and I'm coming back right now to explain.

I drove in and it was on a Sunday. I asked to speak to the floor supervisor {an RN} and showed her the article. I asked the attending house doctor be notified immediately to begin detox protocol she said he'll be in tomorrow morning. This was in a major southeast hospital. I said OK then I prohibit you from giving her any further medications but Benzo's as of now. He came in the next morning madder than a wet hen asking me why I refused his orders. I showed him the article. He said that's pure rubbish. I said doctor please read me the name of the author then. He stammered and stuttered afterward and said yea that's it. So when can I transfer her to the mental institute? I restrained myself from decking him. That night she came back down from the trip. The next day they took her to do a CAT Scan and MRI. Two brain bleeders one fresh one old. She was discharged with partial Amnesia the following day.

Now back to the Xanax a much maligned drug but a life safer to a number of persons including myself. Benzo's are the counter agent to Serotonin Migration. That is why it took a few months for her to develop it. She now takes .5mg Xanax 3X daily and myself the same dosage 4 times daily. You see it almost happened to me before that. My sensory processing system is shot especially the Vestibular portion. I have myoclonic Seizures as a result of it. At first I was diagnosed as having Panic Disorder and they tried SSRI therapy. Ever have a blocked bladder from Paxil? You never forget a Dysreflexia experience if you survive it.

Later after firing 5 shrinks I found one who understood what I had and was comfortable with the Xanax. Persons with severe neurological issues for some reason are more prone to the reaction. But her doctors all failed to do a PDR or even use an ounce of common sense. As for revealing herself? Hilarious now. She loved the show Touched By an Angel. She thought she was Tess. Even funnier is she's white. :>}

324 posted on 10/30/2008 9:20:44 PM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: cva66snipe

Good comes from bad things. This whole episode I described set a chain reaction in motion. An Oral surgeon was going to do the extractions but first wanted the heart condition double checked. They did an Endorin {sp} treadmill on her and she got a clean bill of health on her heart. Before that day she had been on Cardizem and Persentine {sp} for about 15 years as no one had done follow up. She still takes the Xanax for Anxiety it’s in the safest class of such drug for her. No danger of Serotonin Syndrome from it. A good drug when doctors know exactally how to prescribe it. Many saddly don’t. It requires a 24/7 low level in the body. I weigh 250 and .5MG works for me. At my onset they had me on 2mg twice a day. I felt like a yo-yo and it didn’t help but a few hours a day.


325 posted on 10/30/2008 9:29:55 PM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: cva66snipe

‘Ever have a blocked bladder from Paxil?’

Well, no - didn’t know you could! Thanks for sharing your personal story. Best wishes to you & your wife, and I hope the rest of the year is smooth sailing for you.


326 posted on 10/30/2008 9:51:34 PM PDT by JavaJumpy (GO SARAHCUDA, GO!)
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To: JavaJumpy
SSRI's the most common type of antidepressants can in a male due to anatomy cause bladder blockage. The medical term is Dysreflexia and if not immediately treated {as in minutes or an hour or two from notable onset} can be deadly. Treatment usually means in this case inserting a urinary catheter until the medication is out of the blood stream. The persons pulse becomes rapid, Blood Pressure high, breathing labored, and usually a major headache as well. It is in effect the body going into shock. I am trained to recognize and treat it but I almost failed to catch it happening to me.

The condition is far more common to paraplegics and quadriplegics who are catheter dependent and the catheter blocks.

Thanks for the wishes. We've been together in this for 23 years next month. Near as we can tell while we were on a date an earlier in life undetected mild case of Polio likely came back on her and left her a quad.

327 posted on 10/30/2008 10:10:22 PM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: cva66snipe

Well then maybe you should step away from the meds. You’re playing the victim just a little too much for me.

Either way, I’m done.


328 posted on 10/31/2008 4:47:32 AM PDT by netmilsmom ( Obama And Osama both have friends who bombed the Pentagon)
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To: netmilsmom
Yes indeed you're quite baked it seems. Just because someone holds a differing opinion than a majority does not make them stupid, ignorant, nor a coward. I've fought more battles {real actual political ones} than likely anyone on this thread standing up to both state and federal agencies for what is right. I do not loose when I do so. Why? Because I do not except standardized answers aimed to get most persons to simply say well that's the way things are and give up.

I'm a fighter. As well I am when need be a political activist not associated with any group. I'll take on DEM and GOP elected alike I don't care about the letter after their name when doing so.

Have any of you ever stood alone against the Tennessee Valley Authority over Eminent Domain Abuse and won without using a lawyer? Very few persons do. I was threatened with them sending a U.S. Marshall for saying no to uncompensated taking of right of way. They sent an accountant instead and a damages estimator. I do not bully easy.

Have any of you exposed Medicaid fraud in your state? Have any of you personally fought against DEM and GOP alike who support Universal Health Care? Have you ever fought the governments contractor HMO's and overseers running it? Has your GOP senator being the U.S. Senate Majority Leader been a shill for it allowing it and fighting to with federal dollars fund it in your own state. He did just that yet was to be called the hero of the U.S. Senate by Too Studid to Read It Republicans for pushing a Bastardized Medicare reform plan straight from Hillary's handbook. BLIND SHEEP you deserve the government you choose and allow to be your Overlord. BAA more hay and feed please Master Bush /sarcasm

329 posted on 10/31/2008 9:30:52 AM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: Petronski; agrandis
The next President of the United States will come from the Democrat or Republican ticket.

That will always be the case unless conservative Americans demonstrate that they will not follow Republicans down the yellow brick road.
330 posted on 10/31/2008 12:16:01 PM PDT by Sopater (I'm so sick of atheists shoving their religion in my face.)
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To: Sopater

Too late for that in 2008.


331 posted on 10/31/2008 12:19:56 PM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: MetallurgicalConservative

I’m not a liberal in any way.

But if you are a conservative who is voting for the feckless Chuck Baldwin, you are essentially a eunuch visiting a brothel.

This is a seminal election for the future of the blessing from God that is America. Make a difference - because if you’re looking to make a real world statement by voting for Chuck Baldwin you are not. You’ve just made yourself an inconsequential wraith at a time when all citizens of virtue and valor need to stand up and be counted.

Regards.


332 posted on 10/31/2008 4:02:37 PM PDT by MNSlim
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
You mean the first wife who is supporting him in this election, I take it?

Yes, that one, the one who has even less self-respect than all the conservatives now following behind him like a spaniel after...(well you know the rest).

Whyever should anyone be surprised at the disrespect with which McCain treats conservatives, when, in spite of the abuse he heaps on them, they return to him again and again like dogs after their own vomit. If they had any self-respect, like good Mavericks, they would have said, "Fuck You, Johnny-boy, you nasty old fart!" long ago.

333 posted on 10/31/2008 4:25:24 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Will Bush, Bernanke or Paulson let Uncle Sam handle their personal wealth?)
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To: MNSlim
This is a seminal election for the future of the blessing from God that is America. Make a difference - because if you’re looking to make a real world statement by voting for Chuck Baldwin you are not.

Hey Slim I'll let you in on a little secret Da GOP doesn't want Conservatives to know. Chuck Baldwin is an Ordained Minister of the Gospel with a good reputation. Good enough for me.

GOD does not bless lesser of evils choices he blesses the actions and faith of those who stand up for what is right even down to the only man left standing against a multitude. Otherwise leaders are judgements upon nations reflecting the hearts of the people. In the past 20 years this nation and this old world has been on Fast Track to fullfilling End Times Biblical Prophecy even to the point our own nation giving aid to the enemies of Israel and encouraging the treaty with the anti-Christ be signed by Israel. And this was the GOP's doings. Be very afraid.

334 posted on 10/31/2008 4:29:22 PM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: cva66snipe

Chuck Baldwin is a nobody with no chance of winning. Baldwin should be a minister of the Gospel is he’s a minister of the Gospel.

Now? He’s an attention whore who is self destructive if he lives and owns the Gospel he preaches.


335 posted on 10/31/2008 4:41:22 PM PDT by MNSlim
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To: E. Cartman

McCain emerged from the GOP Primary as victor. That’s the fact.

If you are serious about your priorities and principles, you need to be serious about your political options to satisfy them.

Your rational options, in late October 2008, is a scenario with either John McCain or Barak Obama leveraging the power of the most important political office on earth.

I would wager that most all members of this community could fire off a 1000 word missive on the ways that McCain has disappointed, neglected, insulted and disrespected the conservative agenda these past years.

But now - in the real world NOW knowing what we know about this Marxist Manchurian Candidate Hussein Obama - any conservative who would do anything but go to the ends of the earth to defeat this menace is either a fraud or a fool.

Voting against someone who is a clear and present threat to our freedoms trumps all else in my opinion. There is no virtue in making some statement to “RINOs” or “Republicrats” in this particular situation. The stakes are too high. The fallout is too onerous to ponder. Obama is an authentically bad man. He has fascist, authoritarian impulses we have never seen.

I honestly hope you revisit your approach before Tuesday. I will joyfully join you in ridiculing and ragging on a President McCain and weak teet RINOs whenever justified. But ... I certainly prefer that we have some RINOs in office to ridicule given that the only real-world alternative is leftist, anti-American Democrats. Regards!


336 posted on 10/31/2008 4:58:15 PM PDT by MNSlim
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To: cva66snipe
GOD does not bless lesser of evils choices he blesses the actions and faith of those who stand up for what is right even down to the only man left standing against a multitude. Otherwise leaders are judgements upon nations reflecting the hearts of the people. In the past 20 years this nation and this old world has been on Fast Track to fullfilling End Times Biblical Prophecy even to the point our own nation giving aid to the enemies of Israel and encouraging the treaty with the anti-Christ be signed by Israel. And this was the GOP's doings. Be very afraid.

I'll take all that under appropriate advisement, but my current visceral fear revolves around a Marxist who today promised that "It is only four days until we begin a fundamental transformation of the United States of America."

Not a transformation of Executive Branch public policy and political ideology of that institution: No, Obama is gonna tear down corrupt and anti-egalitarian America and build one of his own historically brilliant design.

Obama is a pathological megalomaniac and fancies himself destined to be a historically inspired and benevolent autocrat. This guy - and the ilk around him - intend to rule, not govern. Believe it. He's totally invested in this messianic mojo.

I'm happy, however, that you're vigorously defending against this whole GOP/anti-Christ caper.

337 posted on 10/31/2008 6:11:44 PM PDT by MNSlim
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To: MNSlim
You talk of a nation being a blessing from GOD and yet curse one of His servants as being a whore? The DEM Party as well as GOP is swelling of leaders who will sell the U.S.A. for their own or their families personal monetary gain as is the Democratic Party. I wish we had more Christian Leaders speaking out and coming forward like Baldwin has. That is what it will take. Even Falwell who as a DEM BTW helped to change the direction of the nation toward returning to a Judeo/Christian path did as much and it worked. Thus the last Conservative to serve in the office of POTUS 28 years ago was elected two terms.

We need more Baldwins. You curse the very ones who if given a chance can actually help turn this nation back around. His being a Minister of the Gospel is not a prohibition of national leadership by any means. There is no Biblical nor Constitutional prohibition of such.

338 posted on 10/31/2008 6:19:47 PM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: cva66snipe

If Chuck Baldwin is an ordained minister he should be ministering his flock to leverage the power and peace of serving Christ to manage the challenges of their daily lives.

I don’t know him as a minister, but I sure know him as a bozo political commentator and unqualified professional gadfly. What has he ever accomplished to warrant consideration for the most powerful, complex and scrutinized political office on earth?

Knock yourself out Tuesday. You will have contributed nothing to achieve your alleged priorities.


339 posted on 10/31/2008 8:40:42 PM PDT by MNSlim
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To: MNSlim
If Chuck Baldwin is an ordained minister he should be ministering his flock to leverage the power and peace of serving Christ to manage the challenges of their daily lives.

Here's a true story. A Virginia preacher along with a former GOP appointee under Nixon, a retired Colgate Polmolive employee, and a founder of a Conservative foundation called Free Congress set off on a quest that would change the nations political direction in a time of great political and national uncertanity. Confidence had been lost in the office of POTUS due to incompitence of the then current POTUS and three before him as well. The nation was also in the middle of an unprecidented M.E. crisis and on the brink of war. They persuaded many ministers to join in on their group. This was near the end of Carters term in office.

The movement was family values social conservative based aimed at Conservatives and not just GOP or Republicans. It was the Liberals worse nightmare. Of the GOP candidates running for POTUS one man took up their cause and made much of it his platform for office. He won by a landslide. He reached deep into the Democratic Party not once but twice. There was no days on end of counting a tied election and chads as he actually had an agenda that was vastly different than anyone in any party running.

The men who helped him by starting the group were Jerry Falwell, Howard Phillips who once served under Nixon and went on to being the founder of the Constitution Party, Ed McAteer retired from Cologate, and Paul Weyrich. They convinced ministers from many churches and others to join their movement. The rest is history.

Baldwin for over a decade has been a Conservative author and many of us in here know as much especially those with pre- election 2000 sign on dates. His political sin? Not blindly following Bush but rather being critical as many Conservative writers have. Why? Because many times Bush has been wrong. As a result Republicans let him and the GOP majority slide. Why? For political expedience of some insane notion that by being like the rats they could defeat them. Well they were half right. They became one with the rats.

What qualifies a man for POTUS? Simple. Look in the Constitution of the United States. What the biggest irony of this is the first Republican POTUS was a lowly former congressman. He was a member of a third party newly formed. Worse his voice was so shrill and high pitched that few could stand to listen to him. On the day of his historical speech in Gettysburg, PA few people even showed up. He also suffered from chronic depression most of his life. As well his life was full of business and political failures including bankruptcy. In short Lincon was perhaps one of the most unqualified man to ever run for POTUS. Now you still want to sit here and debate what qualifies Chuck Baldwin for office?

We'll never have another Reagan as long as we have Liberals controlling the GOP as we do today. They have enablers called complacent voters who are willing to kick at Lucy's football yet again like a Good Old Charlie Brown Republican is expected to do. Maybe in 2012 Lucy wont yank it away. She'll promise again and Charlie Brown Republicans will kick yet again. Reagan's kind today is much too right wing nutter for their liking or so they are told to say, think, and vote.

NO MORE! If not now then when? After the last elected Republican has dealt away the rest of our rights and freedoms to the DEMs for supporting yet another stinking bad trade deal?

340 posted on 10/31/2008 10:23:26 PM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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