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BREAKING NEWS: Two Border Patrol Agents who wounded a drug smuggler given 11 and 12 years prison.
Lou Dobbs / CNN | 10-19-06 | no dems

Posted on 10/19/2006 3:37:27 PM PDT by no dems

Edited on 10/19/2006 4:07:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Howlin; All
How about some photo ops... Anyone got any good ideas for Judge Cardone?

Here's mine:


801 posted on 10/23/2006 2:04:20 AM PDT by PatriotEdition (www.billykess.com)
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To: biff; EnochPowellWasRight

The law is the law. I'm sure if the jurors were coerced, it will come out on appeal.

A JURY believed the Mexican and the other BP agents that testified. Like I said, I hate it was BP officers this happened too and I also think the sentence was far too harsh anyway, but the judges hands were tied by mandatory sentences. But, any cop shooting at a fleeing man and then covering it up would be subject to the same.

The only difference here is that it was a Mexican on the border. As far as believing a Mexican over a American, HE WAS SHOT AT 15 TIMES AND HIT IN THE ASS! That certainly lends credibility to his story.

Troll has nothing to do with my stand. I'm sick of people so blinded by their hatred of Mexicans that they can't tell right from wrong. So far people like you have blamed the foreman, prosecutor, the judge, Alberto Gonzales, and George Bush instead of blaming the two idiots that did this. That is purely agenda driven, and it borders (pun intended) on ridiculous.

By the way, illegals are being apprehended and sent back on a daily basis, GWB has sent 6000 NG to help on the border, the number of BP has doubled, catch and release has been ended, and 700 more miles of fence are on the way.

GWB never ran on a tough on illegals platform to start with, but he has responded. You border bots need to get a life.


802 posted on 10/23/2006 9:05:40 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Ajnin; PRND21
Do you think that the prosecution of this case was professional and ethical?

If you get a straight answer to that I'll be shocked.

803 posted on 10/23/2006 10:32:54 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: jmc813
If you get a straight answer to that I'll be shocked.

I know I wouldn't. I'm just kind of curious which robotic mantra I was going to get. 1) The union and I use disgusting tactics, 2) I'm floating stories or 3) the agents obstucted justice. LOL

804 posted on 10/23/2006 1:21:04 PM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: Ajnin
3) the agents obstucted justice.

Your first non-lie on the thread.

805 posted on 10/23/2006 2:36:25 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: EternalVigilance
and not violent Mexican drug runners, as are you.

Your completely dishonest tactics are annoying.

806 posted on 10/23/2006 3:06:14 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21
Your first non-lie on the thread.

Thanks for reminding me about your fourth mantra.

Do you think the prosecution of this case was professional and ehtical?

Of course, I know you're not going to answer the question. I'm just amused at your repeated avoidance of such simple and direct questions.

807 posted on 10/23/2006 3:10:53 PM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: Ajnin
Do you think the prosecution of this case was professional and ehtical?

I wasn't there...were you?
The jury voted 12-0 to convict.
I showed you links that proved you wrong earlier...better find more straws to grab.

808 posted on 10/23/2006 3:23:20 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: A.Hun

"By the way, illegals are being apprehended and sent back on a daily basis, GWB has sent 6000 NG to help on the border, the number of BP has doubled, catch and release has been ended, and 700 more miles of fence are on the way. "

We'll see if any of the above is true. How many time did we hear "catch and release is ended"? Several over the years. That turned out to not be particularly true. The President has to be dragged kicking and screaming to enforce the laws on our border. It's sad you think our demand that those laws be enforced (the law is the law, isn't that what you said?) is part of some "agenda".


809 posted on 10/23/2006 5:07:23 PM PDT by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

Catch and release hasn't ended. The Border Patrol hasn't doubled and as far as I know there still isn't any funding for the fence. However, there are some good changes that I have seen in rough draft come out of DHS.


810 posted on 10/23/2006 5:31:50 PM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: Ajnin

"Catch and release hasn't ended. The Border Patrol hasn't doubled and as far as I know there still isn't any funding for the fence. However, there are some good changes that I have seen in rough draft come out of DHS."

That was my impression on the first 3. It's good to hear about that last.


811 posted on 10/23/2006 5:33:17 PM PDT by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
It's sad you think our demand that those laws be enforced (the law is the law, isn't that what you said?) is part of some "agenda".

Matter of priorities. I believe the President was preoccupied with apprehending al-queda cells. I have yet to see a Mexican suicide bomber.

812 posted on 10/24/2006 4:14:48 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun
"Matter of priorities. I believe the President was preoccupied with apprehending al-queda cells. I have yet to see a Mexican suicide bomber"

Interior enforcement dropped to nothing in his first year -and that was BEFORE 9/11. On the WOT - are you aware of the reports of Muslim infiltrators coming across our border? The White House seemed to have plenty of time to expand the welfare state since 9/11....

"I have yet to see a Mexican suicide bomber."

There are, however, plenty of rapists and murderers that have crossed - and plenty of Muslims have crossed with them.
813 posted on 10/24/2006 6:02:02 PM PDT by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

Come on man, 9/11 was 8 months into his term. His people were hardly even in place.

Sure there have been rapists and murderers come over the border, but there have been no plots for mass murder by Latinos.

I've argued these same points for two years. Things are getting better. But this has nothing to do with two BP agents losing it.


814 posted on 10/24/2006 6:18:21 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun
"Come on man, 9/11 was 8 months into his term. His people were hardly even in place. "

Border enforcement dropped before 9/11. Like I said, there's been plenty of time to pursue more entitlements, but not to enforce the laws on the books - something the Constitution REQUIRES of the President. Whether the laws fit with his agenda or not.

"Sure there have been rapists and murderers come over the border, but there have been no plots for mass murder by Latinos. "

So, that's OK? I believe Congressman King has pointed out that 3 times the number of Americans have been killed by illegals than on 9/11 since 9/11.

What's more, you CANNOT fight a war with terrorists with the backdoor wide open and expect to win.

"I've argued these same points for two years. Things are getting better. But this has nothing to do with two BP agents losing it."

If anything is "getting better" it is due entirely to citizen pressure. The White House would prefer we'd just go away - at least since 2004. That was clear with Meirs.
815 posted on 10/24/2006 6:22:14 PM PDT by EnochPowellWasRight
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