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Free Republic Poll on Evolution
Free Republic ^ | 22 September 2006 | Vanity

Posted on 09/22/2006 2:09:33 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: jerri

This is not about anything from a past thread...it is about what you said concerning my making a leap to a conclusion, and you made that statement on this thread...What some pro-evo may have said in the past concering this subject, has nothing to do with me...Do not make the mistake of thinking that because I agree with what someone else says about one thing, that I happen to agree with them on something else...


1,401 posted on 09/28/2006 3:08:51 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: FreedomProtector
Look, the theory of evolution says nothing about "life coming from non-life." It doesn't address that issue. Abiogenesis is a fascinating area, but it is discrete from biological diversification via changes in allele frequencies over time.

You are apparently stuck on the ridiculous notion peddled in the creationist community that acceptance of the theory of evolution (indeed, acceptance of logical deductions from observations of the evidence in the natural world) requires rejection of God and Christianity. To sustain this, you are forced to view God's very creation as a trick or a trap set by God to test man's abidance with scripture, or perhaps a trick or trap to test man's willingness to shut off his logical faculties.

But nothing in the theory of evolution, indeed, nothing in the study of abiogenic processes, necessitates rejection of God as the prime mover or even rejection of scripture as the revealed word of God.

And your rather sophomoric efforts to create some kind of metaphysical dilemma through cryptic postings are pretty tiring. You ain't no wise man on the mountain, and you could really benefit from a re-reading of Strunk and White.

1,402 posted on 09/28/2006 3:47:55 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: Liberal Classic
There are people on this thread who believe ... that there are cities on mars...

This is a recent NASA snap of the face megalith, roughly two miles top to bottom:

This is a recent NASA snap of the D&M pyramid, named after its discoverers DePetrie and Molinar, roughly a mile and a half on the long sides:

This is a recent NASA snap of the main Cydonia ring pyramid, about half a mile or so across if memory serves:

This is Tom Van Flandern's analysis of the face megalith at Cydonia. Tom is a former director of the Naval Observatory.

Now, as I hear it, about half of the people at NASA and JPL are willing to believe their eyes and the fact that these kinds of things do not happen in nature. The other half are in denial because the standard view towards a history of our solar system does not allow for Mars to have ever been inhabited.

1,403 posted on 09/28/2006 4:52:45 PM PDT by tomzz
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The Clown Prince of Astrophysics, placemarker.
1,404 posted on 09/28/2006 4:57:04 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (When the Inquisition comes, you may be the rackee, not the rackor.)
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To: tomzz

Have a nice day!


1,405 posted on 09/28/2006 5:02:30 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: tomzz
If I absolutely had to take a best-shot, wild ass guess as to the relationship between modern man and the hominids, my GUESS would be that apes and the hominids arose on this planet,

OK, but were these apes & hominids related to each other?

1,406 posted on 09/28/2006 6:03:25 PM PDT by jennyp (There's ALWAYS time for jibber jabber!)
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To: tomzz
Now, as I hear it, about half of the people at NASA and JPL

Ummm...NO!

1,407 posted on 09/28/2006 6:17:20 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Ummm...NO!

But ... were you there?
</creationism mode>

1,408 posted on 09/28/2006 6:24:00 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (When the Inquisition comes, you may be the rackee, not the rackor.)
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To: FreedomProtector
Perhaps Carl Sagan stated it best: "Matter is all there is"

This statement is not required to be true for the theory of evolution to be valid, nor is it a view held by all biologists who accept the theory of evolution as valid. You are attempting to introduce irrelevant concepts into a discussion of evolution.
1,409 posted on 09/28/2006 6:24:09 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: RadioAstronomer
What? No looneys at JPL?

Who'd a thunk it!

1,410 posted on 09/28/2006 6:26:21 PM PDT by balrog666 (Ignorance is never better than knowledge. - Enrico Fermi)
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To: All
Latest Poll Results

Over 300 more votes have come in. Prior FR polls typically receive around 6,000 votes before they're ended. This one now has 4,270 votes, more than two-thirds complete.

The important votes are from those who have expressed an opinion on the poll question, so I'm ignoring all votes for "undecided" or "pass." Those with an opinion have voted as follows:

Yes (put creationism in science class) 2,479 votes
No (keep creationism out of science class) 1,421 votes
Total votes (excluding "undecided" or "pass") 3,900
Percentage voting "No" is 36.4%
1,411 posted on 09/28/2006 6:33:06 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (When the Inquisition comes, you may be the rackee, not the rackor.)
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To: PatrickHenry

PH...thanks for that link to that website...more creepy odd late nite reading for me...its gonna be fun...

Also, thanks for the update on the poll...


1,412 posted on 09/28/2006 6:44:56 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: PatrickHenry

1,413 posted on 09/28/2006 6:52:34 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: balrog666

Oh there were loonies at JPL! :-)

Face on Mars types? noooooo..... LOLOLOL!


1,414 posted on 09/28/2006 6:58:06 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Face on Mars types? noooooo...

I'm trying to think of a tasteful joke about the Face on Uranus, but I can't figure out how to do it.

1,415 posted on 09/28/2006 7:03:52 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (When the Inquisition comes, you may be the rackee, not the rackor.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Last time I looked, I did not see a face. Hmmm....


1,416 posted on 09/28/2006 7:04:39 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I found a link to the Face on Uranus.
1,417 posted on 09/28/2006 7:15:03 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (When the Inquisition comes, you may be the rackee, not the rackor.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Those look like stunningly uninformed questions to me.


1,418 posted on 09/28/2006 7:17:08 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: jennyp

Yes, by combinations of microevolution and some other sort of a deterministic process, but not by evolution the way it is normally described.


1,419 posted on 09/28/2006 7:19:11 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: jennyp

There's one other factor involved in the rise of modern humans which nobody has mentioned. You don't need to be an evolutionist to grasp the fact that Elaine Morgan is almost certainly right in thinking that humans originally lived in water. That would have to be water without sea monsters in it, and our own oceans have always had sea monsters in them. I don't really have an answer to that one. As I noted above, if I had to guess, I'd guess that humans were transported here, but a guess is all that would be.


1,420 posted on 09/28/2006 7:24:19 PM PDT by tomzz
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