Quebec community cool to Darwin

Montreal Gazette via Canada.com ^ | May 20 2006 | Alison Lampert

[DannyTN]

"I just re-read Gen 9(1-17) to find out what what God doesn't forbid to us gentiles, and am happy to report that we can covet our mothers, commit adultery, and worship false idols, all without sin. "

I'm assuming your giddiness at the prospect of coveting your mother is because you know it's wrong and you think you have me cornered and not the result of your oedipus complex.

Behold the law of conscience. If there were no God, if we are products of happenstance, then tell me what's wrong with coveting your mother? As the wiccan's say, "No harm, no foul." Without the benefit of modern genetics, no logical argument can be made, yet you understand instinctually, that ain't right.

The gentiles didn't have those 17 verses from Genesis, as you pointed out, those were written by Moses. But the gentiles did have knowedge passed down from Noah. The ancient Hebrew rabbis in the Talmud determined from Genesis that the Gentiles were under 7 laws. I haven't found out yet how they concluded that, because I don't see some of them from those verses myself.

"From those verses (in Genesis) the rabbis drew seven laws for the Gentile nations. The first was an authorization of human government, with capital punishment required for the crime of murder. The other six laws consisted of prohibitions against blasphemy, idolatry, sexual impurity, theft, the eating of blood, and the devouring of a limb of an animal without killing it."

[donh]

Behold the law of conscience. If there were no God, if we are products of happenstance, then tell me what's wrong with coveting your mother? As the wiccan's say, "No harm, no foul." Without the benefit of modern genetics, no logical argument can be made, yet you understand instinctually, that ain't right.

There you go. The answer was staring you in the face. Why do you think most mammalian species avoid procreating with their mothers? Bat bibles?

[donh]

The gentiles didn't have those 17 verses from Genesis, as you pointed out, those were written by Moses. But the gentiles did have knowedge passed down from Noah. The ancient Hebrew rabbis in the Talmud determined from Genesis that the Gentiles were under 7 laws. I haven't found out yet how they concluded that, because I don't see some of them from those verses myself.

Jewish theories about morality are even more silly than christian theories: less vague, but only by virtue of being even more willing to pull evidence out of their asses.

[DannyTN]

"Why do you think most mammalian species avoid procreating with their mothers? Bat bibles?"

And where do you propose that instinct comes from? How does that evolve? The logical explanation is that a Designer put it there.

You mocked the idea of a conscience and asked if that was a Christian conscience? But you readily accept such rule based behavior if you call it instinct.

[donh]

"Why do you think most mammalian species avoid procreating with their mothers? Bat bibles?"

And where do you propose that instinct comes from? How does that evolve? The logical explanation is that a Designer put it there.

No, the logical explanation is that mammals that felt sexually attracted to their mothers produced inferior offspring to such a degree as to inhibit the further reproduction of mammals that felt sexually attracted to their mothers.

You mocked the idea of a conscience and asked if that was a Christian conscience?

I mocked the idea of a conscience?--where did I do that? I mocked the idea, for good reason, backed up by bountiful historical evidence of the evil it has produced, that the christian conscience you share with Torquemada, which you both appear to think is derived from biblical verse, is, or ought to be, the unquestionable source of morality.

But you readily accept such rule based behavior if you call it instinct.

No, I don't readily accept it. I readily explain it. Acceptance will require the passing of further tests.