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Posted on 04/19/2006 10:32:18 AM PDT by RGVTx
Who knows what to believe anymore?
It does take me back to Paulus’ advice to the boys, though: “No body, no case.”
you have that right
i didn’t spot this to post because i think its true, but its what is up at SM and BFN today
the shed would be the easiest thing to prove or disprove...and apparently this post is not new-—its been around at least a year, say a few folks
Found this at ws today:
“Several websites have reported on the arrest this week of Luis Mansur (Jossy’s brother) and seven others for drug trafficking, money laundering, bribery, and other charges.”
This is from sm:
“I feel that the Sea used for disposal is probably out of the question.
Cremation is more logical if you consider what Rene’s occupation was.
I believe that Rene had a conscious and went to confession at St Teresa in San Nicolas.
Those involved in the coverup may have been afraid that the priest would not live up to his vows and was murdered also.
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Unless there is a colossal breakthrough; where ever Natalee is; may she rest in peace.
“Without any clues; Aruba is basically a vast wasteland that a body could disappear forever. This was the url I was trying to set as an example for the gold mines.
“Rene, Pitbull, Fr Montoya (forget robbery as a motive) and R W Bensen, did not have to be murdered and discovered. They could have just disappeared. Their murders were a message……”
Please ping your lists...Greta Tonight!!! Greta and Beth go back to Aruba to find answers.
Correction: The program is on WEDNESDAY night:
• Where is Natalee? Tune in Wednesday night when Greta and Beth Holloway head back to Aruba to retrace their steps, reexamine the evidence and reveal an investigation shocker!
So this person is saying he/she was there??? Not sure what to think about that. This is just one thing about that post that makes me think it is not on the up and up.
marky bump
Pinging to Palladin’s notice of Beth appearing on Greta’s show tonight. Thanks, Palladin!
but let's not be moralistic and old fashioned and keep our HS kids here in the states, away from drinking and gambling and prostitution....no, lets' not do that.......
everyone, everyone I talk to including people that have gone to ARuba since the Natalie murder all say the same thing....she was a "slut" etc etc...
why would parents pay for and send their precious kid, male or female to that place?
everyone, everyone I talk to including people that have gone to ARuba since the Natalie murder all say the same thing....she was a “slut” etc etc...
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Cherry, Do you often talk to Deepak and Joran?
Oops..JQKelley was on Greta’s show last night.
Beth will be on tonight at 9pm central.
LucyT, isn’t Beth supposed to be on Larry King’s show tonight, too?
Yes, at 9 pm, EST.
Can someone summarize the show, for those of us who don’t have cable? Thanks!
Here is a very rough report on Greta’s show.
I missed a lot due to difficulty hearing the windy recordings from Aruba. And I’m rusty at this. Hope others can fill in the blanks.
Beth and Greta in Aruba
Only handheld cameras allowed.
They go to CnC’s film a little.
Then drive to beach area which Joran claims he left Natalee.
Beth believes what happened to Nat happened on sloot’s property.
Changing of search warrant is proof something happened there.
Joran says in statement of June 13th he took Natalee to his “home.”
Shows clip of Joran...missed this part...could only be lies.
Now showing photos and films of Nat...Beth commenting...hard going back to Aruba...got to know Natalee even more when she found and read her diaries.
Reviewing Beth’s first hours on the ilsand...saw videos at HI casino of JOran and MB kids, no Natalee.
Then two handlers, (Charles Croes?) report finding car Nat was last seen in...car parked inside sloot fence. Beth goes to Police asks for help...go to sloots...told Joran at casino...go there...he was never there...went back to sloots..Joran there...(missed most of this part)...waited for FBI? guy to arrive.
Greta talking about family being told to search crack houses for Nat...
Beth and Greta driving past lighthouse...Dave and Phil saw 2 cops with trunk open scoping stuff from sand...then slammed trunk and drove away and Dave and Phil approached.
Beth talking about refinery...why the big high fence? What are they hiding?
Going to review Beth’s and Greta’s visit with the sloots...
meeting convinced Beth that Paulus knew what happened to Natalee. Beth wasn’t going to match Anita’s ‘good boy” comments. just kept her aim as a mother of a missing daughter...Grata says Beth never missed her stried then nor when Anita spoke so openly about sex...Greta felt like a voyer listening to Anita.
(Missing a lot due to the windy recording)
Next going to Police station, one Beth went to that first night.....Noord PD empty...lights on, door unlocked..cop car out front, later was told it was closed down...maybe beach patrol using it...
Now traveling with photographers following them...taking pics...Beth says this happened all the time to her...4 cars following them now...one guy gave Beth a hard time with some ugly words when she was there in the past..told her to leave...
Beth says three things about her book was to tell Natalee’s story...show how her faith sustained her...and benefit other parents with her experience.
Time helps heal for Beth...was each morning making conscience decision to be positive. Feels good about where she is now in her life.
Thanks! Wish I could have seen it. Will we ever know the truth about what happened, I wonder?
Thanks for update! May this story never go away.
You need a new group of friends. BTW, her name is spelled Natalee not Natalie.
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