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Scientific Illiteracy and the Partisan Takeover of Biology
National Center for Science Education ^
| 18 April 2006
| Staff
Posted on 04/19/2006 3:57:51 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: Ichneumon
I guess I will retract it when you admit that using the enzyme rather than the nucleotide number is very dishonest in accessing the difference between man and chimp.
Or perhaps when scientist learn the definition of fact to the rest of us means "absolute certainty" rather than, "NOT with absolute certainty".
When the word "fact" is thrown out regarding the workings of evolution, what is meant is that, if you have a quarter and flip it 50 times the chance of tails coming up is 20 in 50, but "Not with absolute certainty".
I suppose there were more than a few guys who flew out to Vegas this weekend who had the same idea. "If I play 50 hands of black jack, the chances of me winning X number of games is .....".
No wonder you guys feel there is a revolution against evolution with all the word and number games being played by the proponents of the evolution only theory.
One thing is an "absolute certainty", the question won't be settled here.
To: MissAmericanPie
"Or perhaps when scientist learn the definition of fact to the rest of us means "absolute certainty" rather than, "NOT with absolute certainty"."
It's not our problem if you don't know anything about science.
Now, have even ONE cite that we share a 97% similarity with corn? Just ONE?
We don't have 40 decades to wait.
To: Doctor Stochastic
Fascinating! So, I can be immoral and then just "plead the Taq"? How convenient!
To: LibertarianSchmoe
Only if your immorality is in the service of The Cause. (WTMB)
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posted on
04/24/2006 2:52:05 PM PDT
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: Doctor Stochastic
...and how could it not be?
To: editor-surveyor
It's almost funny. If tomorrow science dropped the word "Evolution" from their vocabulary and substituted..say.."The Study of Species Development", all researcher's IQ's would drop 20 points and so much less would be discovered.
Most likely what would be discovered is that Globalists, Liberals and the International powers that be, would find their pockets less deep for research projects given the important agenda involved in using the word "Evolution".
But to say there is a 2% or less difference between man and chimp is so dishonest when each percent equals the difference of 40,000,000 nucleotides. Especially given there is a 0% difference in DNA in any animal, including us, between it's skin and it's liver. There is a difference in protein, but that difference should be smaller given the completely different functions and appearance of the skin vs the liver.
Like I said, lots of flim flam, and this thread is neck deep in it. I'm wading off to find dinner. Maybe gnaw on some corn.;o)
To: Thatcherite; js1138; Junior; Elsie; andysandmikesmom
"I asked him if Western soldiers on duty in Iraq should have field hospitals offering the best care modern medicine can summon up for those injured in battle?" And I answered that I have no objection to trauma surgery, but that was not the answer that you desired. It's the witchcraft to which I object; the prescription of deadly poisons to mask symptoms, thus accelerating death, when effective natural substances without side effects are available (of course you can't make money off of natural substances).
"He never did answer"
I've never met an honest evolutionist; you're no exception.
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posted on
04/24/2006 4:06:05 PM PDT
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editor-surveyor
(Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
To: editor-surveyor
The truth is that deaths from apendicitus have always been rare, and the surgery cannot be credited with saving a life. 'Operable cancer' is nonsense. Cancer surgery is a big money maker for the surgeon, but is is a bad choice for the patient. Cancer is best cured by natural means, and those means should be guided by prayer, not the PDR. Western medicine is unable to cure anything. Diabetes is a good example; they just get rich pumping them full of dangerous drugs, rather than correcting their diet and using the very effective herbal treatments. Was this you?
1,088
posted on
04/24/2006 4:08:44 PM PDT
by
js1138
(somewhere, some time ago, something happened, but whatever it was that happened wasn't evolution)
To: MissAmericanPie
Most likely what would be discovered is that Globalists, Liberals and the International powers that be, would find their pockets less deep for research projects given the important agenda involved in using the word "Evolution". Without question, because they wish to imagine themselves evolving into gods, thus evading the payment for sin altogether, but the reality that men are losing intelligence at a steady rate haunts them constantly.
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posted on
04/24/2006 4:13:49 PM PDT
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editor-surveyor
(Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
To: js1138
You Bet !!!
Truth is totally offensive to you, isn't it.
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posted on
04/24/2006 4:15:54 PM PDT
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editor-surveyor
(Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
To: editor-surveyor
"but the reality that men are losing intelligence at a steady rate haunts them constantly."
Speak for yourself. :)
To: editor-surveyor
"If you got into a car accident, and had internal bleeding, you would rather die than be cut open?"
That is indeed a difficult question, as are many questions of obedience, but your assumption of imminent death is not a given either.
"Where does it say in the Bible that surgery is forbidden?"
I would first counter with the question "where is it advised? or permitted?"My question is, why would you favor something for our soldiers that you think would separate them from God?
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posted on
04/24/2006 4:21:15 PM PDT
by
js1138
(somewhere, some time ago, something happened, but whatever it was that happened wasn't evolution)
To: editor-surveyor
Without question, because they wish to imagine themselves evolving into gods, thus evading the payment for sin altogether, but the reality that men are losing intelligence at a steady rate haunts them constantly.
Do you actually expect anyone to take such blithering babbling nonsense seriously?
To: editor-surveyor
So, you're saying the same surgeons and doctors that are competent in treating trauma cases turn into witchdoctors when dealing with other problems? In your mind the two types of medicine are separate and have absolutely nothing to do with one another?
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posted on
04/24/2006 4:35:08 PM PDT
by
Junior
(Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
To: editor-surveyor
It's the witchcraft to which I object; the prescription of deadly poisons to mask symptoms, thus accelerating death, when effective natural substances without side effects are available (of course you can't make money off of natural substances). Your natural alternative to inhalation anesthetics would be...?
To: metmom; js1138
Evolution doesn't drive climate change. well, it could, and seems to have done so dramatically in the distant past - the rise of photosynthetic organisms appears to have radically altered the atmosphere's chemical composition by liberating molecular oxygen and binding carbon into biomass. These alterations certainly could (and apparently did) contribute to massive climate shifting.
Additionally, forests are rain-engines. No forests, no land-based rain-engines. When trees came to be and formed forests *poof!* we had land-based rain-engines. Does this not qualify as climate change driven by evolution?
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posted on
04/24/2006 5:10:09 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT.)
To: MissAmericanPie
Globalists, Liberals and the International powers that be
I've seen this phrase before in history books.
To: King Prout
I hadn't thought of that. I was thinking of evolution as having left evidence of past climate changes.
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posted on
04/24/2006 5:17:13 PM PDT
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js1138
(somewhere, some time ago, something happened, but whatever it was that happened wasn't evolution)
To: js1138
we of B.O.D. are pleased to serve
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posted on
04/24/2006 5:21:44 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT.)
To: King Prout
That's life forms affecting climate not evolution. While plant life can make an effect on local climates, as appears to have happened in the Sahara, how they change would not be nearly as significant as the fact of them being there.
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posted on
04/24/2006 5:44:56 PM PDT
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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