Posted on 04/05/2006 10:32:31 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
Assumption is a term of philosophy. Science assumes nothing and observes fact. The two methods are not compatible.
So, let me throw this to you ~ how many 80 year olds in the early 60s were at the top of their form on plate tectonics?
1, 2?
Ain't many.
Odds are they were much more concerned with their own daily movement than with that of the continents. Bet more of them thought "incontinence" was of greater importance than "continents" anyway.
Christians are not concern with the Bible at all ~ they are concerned with the Scriptures.
Oh they are cute! I'll see about posting some pics. I just started looking into their ancestory. Here's a little info.
History and Origin of the Breed
The first true Miniature Horses originated in Europe. As early as the sixteen hundreds, these tiny equines were being bred as pets for the European nobility. Paintings and articles were featuring the Miniature Horse by 1765. Lady Estella Hope and her sisters carried on the original English lines into the mid-nineteen hundreds. Many of the smallest Miniatures in the United States are from the Hope line. Unfortunately, not all early Miniatures were pampered pets of kings and queens. Some were used to work in the English Midlands and Northern European coal mines
An interesting new application for these little, mutant horses is training them as seeing eye horses. They are as intelligent as canines, possibly even more so, they live as much as thirty years, see in color, and have a 300 degree field of vision.
Guess dark energy and dark matter don't exist ~
Next you are going to tell us that the mind can never be subjected to scientific inquiry or examination.
Still, Fester, Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle can be readily demonstrated ~
"Christians are not concern with the Bible at all ~ they are concerned with the Scriptures."
The Scriptures are the Bible. Scripture has no meaning outside of the written Word.
And Christians believe the Bible to be objectively true.
dodger,
How many geologists were in the top of their form between 1915 and 1960?
You claimed theat NOT ONE of them EVER accepted continental drift in this time period.
You have since crawdadded off this absolutism, but have not yet admitted openly that you posted pure BS.
Do so, dodger.
or don't.
either way, you add to the public record.
Somebody just tried to remove the very mother of science, to wit, mathematics, from scientific inquiry.
"Somebody just tried to remove the very mother of science, to wit, mathematics, from scientific inquiry."
For a very good reason. Math isn't science, and science isn't math. Science deals with the physical world; math with logical constructs.
Both are hypothetical and are a matter of mathematical physics.
When it comes to Jehovah's Witnesses, for example, where the Bible has text that differs from their vision of "scripture" they rewrite it!
I suspect you are trying to apply a traditional Jewish approach to the Torah to what Christians think of as the Bible.
Christians simply do not handle the Bible the same way traditional Jews do the Torah. Besides their being different books (or collections of books), we really do have two different religious traditions involved.
It is not possible to discuss the Bible as Torah with any Christians I know of unless the Christian Hebrews do that, and I know some of them, and I don't recall them doing so.
*shrugs*
the "lie" is an accusation levelled by literalists - either Genesis is 100% factual, or God Lied: Either the evidence does indeed show what science says it shows and the book is a lie, or the book is true and the evidence is an enormous lie that has led scientists astray. Either way, if they admit that the evidence does not square with Genesis 100%, then God lied. They therefore insist that the evidence MUST square with Genesis and see all natural science to be an attack on Genesis and, by proxy, against God.
It don't have to be so.
While the alternative I posted would not lend support to Genesis-literalism, it does quite adequately resolve the supposed conflict between recent divine Creation and the evidence embedded in the natural universe which points to an extensively ancient orgin. And it negates the "lie" problem: Does an author "lie" to his characters by setting the story in a well developed world? No. Of course not.
Excuse, please. Can't tell for sure, but I think it possible that while you are speaking of one or more of several music theory subjects, yellowdoghunter is actually talking about music appreciation, which can be considerably a less demanding part of the musical discipline.
That would be inaccurate. For example, Darwin said, in the last sentence of the 6th Edition of On the Origin of Species:
"There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone circling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being evolved."
Only your opinion would suppose that. We already have IQ tests, psychology, and psychiatrists.
Thats interesting about the miniature horses...where my mom lived in California, the people who lived in back of her, had a huge number of miniature horses....I used to like it in the spring, when the new little miniature horses were born...they were so dang cute, and spent all day in the back field of the ranch(which ran right up to my parents fence line), and ran and played all day long...some were so tiny, they were not much bigger than a large dog...
I actually saw something on Tv, about using these miniature horses as seeing eye horses...this particular seeing eye horse, was wearing something like jogging shoes on his hooves, so that he would not slip on the slippery floor, when going through an airport...
I have worked for years in nursing homes...we always had a group of people who would come in about once a week, and they would bring in animals for the residents to pet and fondle and play with...usually they brought in the usuals...dogs, cats, birds, and bunnies...but one day, I was passing in front of the front door, and noticed a miniature horse standing there..I speeded onto the nurses station, and informed the charge nurse that there was a horse standing at the front door...she looked at me as if I was insane...she felt my head, and asked me if I was ill and hallucinating...No, I reassured her, come and look...sure enough, there stood a miniature horse, ready for his nursing home visit...
The residents loved that little miniature horse, he quite the big hit...he was invited back for several more visits...anyone can bring in a cat or dog, or bird, or bunny, but our residents felt extra special, with a visit from a miniature horse...
If I am correct, in that that post is what he refers to, then muawiyah would have done well to give you a link to that whopper, so you would have been able to easily see what he was talking about.
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