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Newly found species fills evolutionary gap between fish and land animals
EurekAlert (AAAS) ^ | 05 April 2006 | Staff

Posted on 04/05/2006 10:32:31 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: Zavien Doombringer
I have a great concept of science, I also know that the base of science is with a hypothesis. That hypothesis is on an assumption of a "what if". Now, assuming you declare that this fossil has the origins of all life, you need to prove your hypothesis. Thus, theories are created.

You left out a few steps. First there is the hypothesis and then there must be observation of a material fact, evidence and empirical evidence for the fact and a explanation of the fact that constitutes theory. Theories are composed of facts and explanations of facts not a accepted hypothesis of what if.

321 posted on 04/05/2006 2:34:34 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Just your opinion, which you are welcome to. I however, disagree.

Curious. Why do you prefer to believe mythology over well-supported explanations for observations of reality?

I still don't believe I came from a monkey!

What evidence do you have to support this assertion?
322 posted on 04/05/2006 2:35:31 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Anyway, you lose the argument because you have to resort to 3rd grade comments about someone's IQ.

I made no comment whatsoever on your IQ or intelligence.

Being ignorant simply means you lack knowledge.

But you seem to be perfectly happy with that. Have a nice life.

323 posted on 04/05/2006 2:35:43 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: furball4paws
Can't offer anything more than a 3rd grade insult?

Didn't you mother teach you that you instantly lose the argument when you do that? You should have also learned that in debate class. You instantly lost the argument.

Anyway, have a good day!

324 posted on 04/05/2006 2:35:55 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
There isn't any evidence of humans being evolved from anything like this..

How have you ruled out existing evidence behind the explanation? Also, how does this justify your assertion that such a claim is based upon a desire for the claim to be true?
325 posted on 04/05/2006 2:36:48 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
To each his/her own. I have no problem with people believe that we came from monkeys, or what-have-you.

I figure we will all find out in the end anyway. I don't think I came from a monkey because I believe God created man in His image. You may believe differently. It is a belief that everyone is entitled to.

326 posted on 04/05/2006 2:38:16 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: yellowdoghunter; Dimensio
Dimensio: What, exactly, do you believe that "theory" means when you say that "evolution is just a THEORY". Please be specific.

yellowdoghunter: Someone's idea. Many, many people may agree with that idea but it does not make it a fact.

Wow. That is so stunningly ignorant, I hardly know where to begin.

How about we begin with the second point? You're right about one thing. The number of people who chose to believe something is not relevant. Thank you. Now maybe creationists will stop pointing to polls as some sort of evidence. What is relevant is who supports it, and why. No reputable scientific organization has any serious doubt about the validlity of the ToE. Not even ID groups such as the poorly-named Discovery Center, which accepts the evidence of a common ancestor.

Now, as to your first point. Words mean things. In science, the word "theory" means a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena.

It does not mean "guess." Far from it. It requires actual evidence, which the ToE has in spades. It has been tested, and every test strengthens it.

Hint: if you have to re-define words to make your argument, your argument is weak. That's a leftist trick that Creationists have eagerly adopted.

327 posted on 04/05/2006 2:39:34 PM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: yellowdoghunter

I just made the observation that your experience base does not appear to go beyond the 3rd grade.


328 posted on 04/05/2006 2:41:07 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: furball4paws
Hah! You've already been informed that you lose. Note how fast the troll pounces when she gets her coveted insult.
329 posted on 04/05/2006 2:41:38 PM PDT by VadeRetro (I have the updated "Your brain on creationism" on my homepage.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
I don't think I came from a monkey because I believe God created man in His image. You may believe differently. It is a belief that everyone is entitled to.

Of course everyone is entitled to believe what they like. But don't pretend your personal preference is anything but just that - a personal preference.

You have been asked for evidence to support your assertions about scientific matters. To which you can only reply that they are your beliefs.

I take it that you have no actual evidence?

330 posted on 04/05/2006 2:43:48 PM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: Junior

Are gastroliths the stones swallowed by dinosaurs to aid with digestion?


331 posted on 04/05/2006 2:44:28 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually that I'm right!)
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To: Junior
What is the hebrew word for "repented" here and what does it mean?

And how do you know that this passage is evidence of God making a mistake?

Does man not have free will to commit acts that are then punishable?

332 posted on 04/05/2006 2:45:32 PM PDT by pby
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; yellowdoghunter

You are right, they shouldn't. It is a fact that the glass will break...:)"

Are you sure thats a fact?

Unbreakable Glass
Reported September 2005

MURRAY HILL, N.J. (Ivanhoe Broadcast News) -- It's an unlikely discovery at the bottom of the sea that could strengthen our future; unbreakable glass.

Glass is fragile, but something found in the sea may change that. It has survived here for billions of years and is made of glass. Joanna Aizenberg, Ph.D., physical and material chemist at Bell Labs and Lucent Technologies in Murray Hill, N.J., says, "It uses every structural feature we know in mechanical engineering, but at a scale that is 1,000, 10,000-times smaller."

In fact, it's one of the strongest glasses known to man. Aizenberg is studying how the sponge is formed and has discovered individual needle-like glass beams make up the basic structure. "Each of the strands is about the thickness of a human hair. Actually half of a human hair," she says.

Today, architects use fiber-reinforced cements, bundled beams, and diagonal beams to reinforce building columns. You can see it in the Eiffel Tower in Paris and the Swiss Re Tower in London. Engineers hope to use what they've learned about the formation of the sponge's glass beams to help create better, stronger and cheaper materials for the future.

Elsa Reichmanis, Ph.D., director of Polymer and Organic Materials Research at the Bell Labs and Lucent Technologies in Murray Hill, N.J. says, "As scientific research is evolving, we are now starting to explore and understand more of what nature does every day very easily."

The sponge cannot only show scientists how to produce glass at low temperatures, but the sponge also has optical fibers that glow in the dark.


333 posted on 04/05/2006 2:45:45 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: highball
That is so ignorant I don't know where to begin.

Great way to start off an argument. I won't even waste my time. A theory is just a theory no matter which word you wish to put in front of it.

Good Day.

334 posted on 04/05/2006 2:45:52 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: VadeRetro
Hah! You've already been informed that you lose. Note how fast the troll pounces when she gets her coveted insult.

She must have majored in "How to Act Like a Baby".

Biology and Music were too beneath her.

335 posted on 04/05/2006 2:46:25 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: jec41; All
that could strengthen our future; unbreakable glass.

Notice that word, "COULD". Doesn't sound 100% for sure to me, maybe you read it differently. And if so, to each his/her own.

It has been fun, gotta run.....

336 posted on 04/05/2006 2:49:30 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: highball
I hardly know where to begin.

When it comes to hard core trolls, the answer is don't.

337 posted on 04/05/2006 2:49:30 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: ahayes

Ping to self for later reading.


338 posted on 04/05/2006 2:49:38 PM PDT by ahayes
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To: VadeRetro

Mudskippers are actually real big gobies.


339 posted on 04/05/2006 2:50:30 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is to conservatism what Howard Dean is to liberalism)
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To: grapevine
Cells are not complex, that's why they can copy with such an unbelieveably low rate of error.

I don't follow any of this.

340 posted on 04/05/2006 2:50:34 PM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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