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Newly found species fills evolutionary gap between fish and land animals
EurekAlert (AAAS) ^ | 05 April 2006 | Staff

Posted on 04/05/2006 10:32:31 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: PatrickHenry

Captain, there be trolls here!


1,381 posted on 04/10/2006 5:52:42 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Interim tagline: The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

I think you should check out his link. He's got us.


1,382 posted on 04/10/2006 5:53:40 PM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: js1138

"You got us dead to rights. Your link

http://www.biology.arizona.edu/cell_bio/tutorials/cells/cells3.html

says right there in black and white that Darwin believed the body was made up of only one cell.

Or certainly not more than "more than one."

EXACTLY.

But NOW we know that Darwin was wrong, and NOW we know that the body was made up of TRILLIONS of cells.

You guys are just too easy, and I'm only a country bumpkin.


1,383 posted on 04/10/2006 5:55:02 PM PDT by Sun (Logic wins every debate.)
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To: Sun

That's two things you are right about. Amazing.


1,384 posted on 04/10/2006 5:56:09 PM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: js1138
"I think you should check out his link. He's got us."

SHHHH! Be quiet! Don't let them know! I always knew that Darwin said we were one big unicellular blob, but I hoped that nobody caught on. Now you've exposed our deepest secret!! You'll be scrubbing toilets at DarwinCentral for years to come for this digression!
1,385 posted on 04/10/2006 5:57:00 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: Coyoteman
I'm a-sticken' with the one-cell theory. Darwin said it; I believe it. That's the deal.
1,386 posted on 04/10/2006 5:57:18 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: Sun
Did you read the link I provided?

The question is whether you did.

You have cited this link as showing that Darwin thought a human body to be made from a single cell.

http://www.biology.arizona.edu/cell_bio/tutorials/cells/cells3.html.

Nothing there says that. Never mind that, if it did say that, it would be wrong. It is a very sketchy outline of some major events in our understanding of cells. Darwin is not mentioned. Nothing supports the assertion that anyone at all thought large organisms were unicellular.

1,387 posted on 04/10/2006 6:02:59 PM PDT by VadeRetro (I have the updated "Your brain on creationism" on my homepage.)
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To: js1138
I should read the thread to stay in synch before replying. I had no idea you guys would surrender and leave me fighting on alone against the invincible Mr. Sun.

(Can Rev. Moon be far behind?)

1,388 posted on 04/10/2006 6:05:09 PM PDT by VadeRetro (I have the updated "Your brain on creationism" on my homepage.)
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To: Sun
Oh, so TWO scientists believed in evo in the 18th century?? Should that convince me?? (eyeroll)

Well … no, that won’t convince you. I doubt anything will. But really, if you want to take part here, please learn the simplest facts. Like, for instance, the century in which 1859 fell.

REFUTE, my links below and give me an excerpt with link. This is a challenge. Don't change the subject this time.

I’m not the one who’s been changing the subject. I’m the one who’s been posting the questions you’ve ignored.

Darwin convinced scientists to believe his theory based on antiquated information,

Substantiate that. Your link doesn’t.

.at that time, like we only have one cell, when we really have trillions, and when there are new discoveries, evo scientists just change the theories. PROOF of what Darwin once thought:
http://www.biology.arizona.edu/cell_bio/tutorials/cells/cells3.html - shows that they thought there was only one or a few cells

You know, I’d really like to post the whole page here … but I don’t want to get JR in trouble for a copyright violation. I will confine my answer to this: The page in no way supports any of your contentions. In fact, Darwin’s name doesn’t appear on it anywhere!

But NOW we know that the human body is made up trillions of cells.

http://websekolah.bharian.com.my/F1Sci/june15.html

So what? As I posted before, the Theory of Evolution does not stand or fall on the number of cells in the human body. Where do you get this stuff?

Is science EXCITING, though?? Science is ALWAYS learning something new(except for those stuck in the 18th century).

Or the 1st.

1,389 posted on 04/10/2006 6:08:02 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs

One cell! I don't need no trillions of cells. One will do very nicely. My granddaddy weren't no multi-cellular organism.


1,390 posted on 04/10/2006 6:13:34 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: PatrickHenry

What Darwin knew....

1,391 posted on 04/10/2006 6:17:04 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: All

Five evos against one IDer just to make it fair:

Dear Yahoo!: My 7th-grade class wants to know approximately how many cells make up the human body. David
Aurora, Colorado

Dear David: That's a very good question, and we applaud your class for its inquisitiveness. We knew there were a lot of cells in the human body, but we were hard pressed to put an actual number on it. It seemed like a fairly straightforward query, so we tried a straightforward approach and typed "number cells human body." Our results were numerous and informative, but after flipping through them, we learned there really is no consensus on the answer.

Some sources told us that the average adult human body is made up of "50 million million" (50 trillion) cells, while others put the figure closer to 10 trillion. Science NetLinks, a resource for science teachers, stated that there are approximately "ten to the 14th power" (that's 100 trillion) cells in the human body.

http://ask.yahoo.com/20020625.html




But alas, here's what poor ole Darwin thought:

The Cell Theory

When Schleiden and Schwann proposed the cell theory in 1838, cell biology research was forever changed. The cell theory states that:

All life forms are made from one or more cells.
Cells only arise from pre-existing cells.
The cell is the smallest form of life.


http://www.biology.arizona.edu/cell_bio/tutorials/cells/cells3.html - shows that they thought there was only one or a few cells.

Hey guys, remember how some of ya doubted me when I told you there were TRILLIONS of cells?


1,392 posted on 04/10/2006 6:29:36 PM PDT by Sun (Truth and honesty kicks butts.)
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Another thing: How come there was no EUREKA! about this TRILLION cell discovery?

How come no Nobel prize, PatrickHenry?

Are the evo scientists trying to hide the truth?


1,393 posted on 04/10/2006 6:33:01 PM PDT by Sun (Truth and honesty kicks butts.)
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To: Sun

Placemarker


1,394 posted on 04/10/2006 6:40:58 PM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory.)
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To: Sun
http://www.biology.arizona.edu/cell_bio/tutorials/cells/cells3.html - shows that they thought there was only one or a few cells.

It says life forms are made up of one or more cells. 'Life forms' includes amoebae.

Sheesh!

1,395 posted on 04/10/2006 6:42:18 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Sun
Evo dictates going across the species line (not creating subspecies).

spe·ci·a·tion (spç'shç-â'shÉ™n, -sç-) n.

The evolutionary formation of new biological species, usually by the division of a single species into two or more genetically distinct ones.

In zoology, as in other branches of biology, subspecies is the rank immediately subordinate to a species. As an aside, do note that in botany a subspecies is only one of the ranks that will get a ternary name (see there), while in bacteriology, the terms subspecies and variety are usually interchangeable, see ICNB. Its one of the varieties of a species and can breed freely within the species population.

I did not give you examples of subspecies but examples of speciation. That you did not know the difference is the fault of your own opinion.

So where's the proof that this can happen?

You received it. At least 10 examples.

And please, no more games. It's a simple question, and it is the CORE of evolution. No game and you are wrong.

Games only make ME look good, and you don't REALLY want to do that, do you? :)

I don't play games but if you think someone could make you look good you might want to reread the posts. You are a legend in your own mind, fortunately that as far as it goes.

1,396 posted on 04/10/2006 6:43:35 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Sun
So "trillions" isn't "more?"

Are you sure?

1,397 posted on 04/10/2006 6:45:02 PM PDT by VadeRetro (I have the updated "Your brain on creationism" on my homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry
One cell! I don't need no trillions of cells. One will do very nicely. My granddaddy weren't no multi-cellular organism.

From an excellent, but strangely hidden link: When Schleiden and Schwann proposed the cell theory in 1838, cell biology research was forever changed.

Heck, they ADMIT it's only a THEORY!!!!!!!!!

You're safe, PH.

1,398 posted on 04/10/2006 6:49:14 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: VadeRetro
So "trillions" isn't "more?"

Are you sure?

"Trillions" isn't "more" when talking about government spending ...

1,399 posted on 04/10/2006 6:55:39 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs

Prime?


1,400 posted on 04/10/2006 6:56:10 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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