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Bush says Cold War captivity one of great wrongs
NY Times ^ | May 7, 2005 | REUTERS

Posted on 05/07/2005 3:20:28 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: ms_68

These are official U.N. data, find then in the Internet.==

No sir. In all civilized world (you are part of it, isn't it?) it is accepted practice when ACCUSER proves his accusation with facts. Otherwise that "accusor" is just petty slenderman.

SO you have a chance to prove your accusation about 2 mlns of Poles sent to Sibiria by russians (if you say even UN has "statistic"). If not then you are petty lier.


121 posted on 05/08/2005 7:29:22 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: ILurkedIRegisteredIPosted
The irony of it is that he isn't even a really good foreign policy president. He openly supports the anti-American Law of the Sea Treaty, FTAA and other measures that give more of our sovereignty to global governance bodies. LOST effectively gives the UN tax and regulatory powers independent of our control.

While President Bush's position on "free" trade is not the same as mine, that does not change my estimation of his stature in foreign policy nor of his accomplishments. I think it likely that history will record President Bush as one of our great presidents.

As to LOST, well, I wish it get lost, and President Bush's support of it is a blemish on his record.

123 posted on 05/08/2005 7:46:13 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: ms_68

You know why i don't want to talk to you? Because denying such gruesome Soviet crimes, you're actually the same as those who did it.==

m-68 i TRY AGAIN. I hope you understand english. I didn't agree Katyn. See my above posters. Not only you anut any independent reader of FR may understand that I don't deny Katyn.
I just recalled you that it toolk place in 1940 not in 1944-45 when soviet liberation of Europe happened. You agrreed.

SO I conclude your patetism toward speach of Putin who talked about 1944-45 are far from target.

Then now I ask you AGAIN please prove your accusation done in prevous posts that "2 mlns Poles was sent by russians into Sibiria" during and after ww2. Prove with facts but not with hotter propaganda rethoric.
I hope this request is fair since you are accuser not me.


124 posted on 05/08/2005 7:54:00 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: RusIvan

I didn't agree Katyn.== I didn't deny:)) sorry. Now chew me for my mistype you have your chance now:)).


125 posted on 05/08/2005 7:55:18 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: ms_68

You can't defend your prewar lands in the East because we murdered almost half of all Poles living there, we sent them to Gulag so those lands are no more Polish, only Ukrainians and others are living there now."==

Half poles was "murdered". It is your 700 thousands we "murdered":)). So where are graves for 700000 poles?

Other half where? Still there in eatern "polish" lands? Or let me guess. Of cuase!! Other half is those "2 mlns which was sent to Sibiria":)).

SO russians "depopulated" western Ukarine and Bellorussia of poles then resettled them with ukranians and bellorussians:))).
It is one more "never spoken terrible crime of russian occupants of polish lands":)). But ukranians and bellorussians are our co-committers. Am I right?:)

SO You continue accusasions without any facts. You are anti-russian propagandist lier. I'm very disappointed:(.


128 posted on 05/08/2005 8:22:15 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: ms_68

Buzuluck, Poland==

Where is this Buzuluck in Poland? Show me it on map please?

Cross carved by knife is pretty bloody. On photo it is more like tattoo.


129 posted on 05/08/2005 8:28:12 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: ms_68

I don't know where it was, sorry. It must have been a small village.==

I think photo is staged. There are no Buzuluck in Poland and even in Bellorussian and Ukraine.
It is probably children from Oswentsim(Auswitz). Crosses added by photo editor.

You know m_68 I agree that commies was bad people but even them didn't send children into camps. There are no such facts. They sent children into goverment orfanages.

I just want to add. Commies was bad enough that we can diminish ourselves to direct lies with purpose to demonize them. They are mostly dead anyway.
Let us supports solid facts not to go to propaganda. I don't like any propaganda. Pro- same as anti-.

The most purpose of any propaganda is to dupe people.

SO you words about "700 poles murdered and 2 mlns sent to Sibiria during and after ww2" is propaganda also.
As I said I'm from Sibiria myself. I never saw or heard about sent polish citizen there.


131 posted on 05/08/2005 8:49:58 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: neverdem
[ `Our people not only defended their homeland, they liberated 11 European countries,'' Putin said on Saturday after laying a wreath at a monument to Russia's war dead. ]

And during the same period American democrats "Liberated" at least a trillion dollars from the american people.. for programs that didn't and havn't worked and STILL don't work..

As the soviets "liberated" about 50 million people of their lives.. during that time..

The soviets are such peace and freedom loving people AIN'T THEY... How do you know a Russian is LYING.. "their lips are moving"..

134 posted on 05/08/2005 9:17:21 AM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: Destro
ms_68 has a long term problem with the truth. They are not acquainted.
135 posted on 05/08/2005 9:18:03 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: ms_68
However, my intention was to say that even the most gruesome and barbarian Nazi regime DIDN'T MURDER SO MANY OFFICERS OF THE PARTICULAR ENEMY ARMY

You need to lay off. The Nazis went through Czech (after the local Reichmarshal was assasinated), Poland, Russia, Yugoslavia, Greece like bad Mexican food through a digestive system: cleaning out anyone and everyone who could resist and saving the slaughter of the sheeple for later: usually as mass slave labor: Ousland Arbeiten.

136 posted on 05/08/2005 9:22:08 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Donald Meaker

The main difference is: Soviet Communism was so assine it couldn't have survived for the long run. Menshovik Trotskyte National Socialism could.


137 posted on 05/08/2005 9:23:39 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: ms_68
East half - stolen by Russians

Which was previously stolen by the Poles. Brave guy, why don't you go and tell the Ukrainians and Belaruss to give it back, while you are clearning out of German Salasia, Posen, West & Central Prussia.

138 posted on 05/08/2005 9:25:33 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Cicero
this is the first time a U.S. President has EVER acknowledged that the decisions taken at Yalta were immoral and wrong.

It is a consistent theme that the President has evolved, the self-defeating nature of our attempts to maintain "stability" at the expense of freedom. It is truly an upending of seventy years of State Department crapola. The media flunkies, I'm sure, have no clue as to what is really hitting them. They will whine about hurting Pootie-Poot's feelings, but this is so much more far-sighted and transformative than they can even grasp.

It appears that the real Bush Doctrine has crystallized into a truly revolutionary doctrine.

139 posted on 05/08/2005 9:27:26 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: RusIvan

Grzegorz is incapable of creative thought, his EU masters don't allow it.


140 posted on 05/08/2005 9:29:53 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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