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AMERICA HEAR MY WORDS [PROPHETIC EXHORTATION, WARNING TO THE BODY OF CHRIST et al]
BILL SOMERS' "WHAT'S NEW at END TIMES PROPHETIC VISION" http://www.etpv.org/whatsnew.html ^ | 6 APR 2005 | MARSHA ALLRED

Posted on 04/30/2005 8:41:28 PM PDT by Quix

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To: xzins

O.K. I guess I'm not sure what specific "above" that you're refering to. Is it that America Hear My Words Exhortation? Never the less, The Lord has said that He would raise up prophets,just like He raised up and called Samuel when He was 17, or Elijah and Jonah.It is our blessed grace to have a relationship with God, and discern the voice of God and only His sheep know His voice.All of His prophets were commanded ,led and given the message from The Holy Spirit aka God to speak REPENTANCE unto His people. Don't you think God urges America to repent? Would the devil ask a human to tell America to repent? A house divided against itself can not stand. And even if these words were from a man, would a man who does not know the heart of God, ask America to repent?


181 posted on 05/02/2005 6:35:00 PM PDT by babygirlonly1
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To: babygirlonly1

This does not claim to be what this person thinks. This claims to be directly from God....it uses the first person.

Now, if this is actually God talking to us, don't you think it should be included in the bible?

If you think it should not be included in the bible, then why not?

If you think it should be included, then what are you going to do to get it included?


182 posted on 05/02/2005 6:40:54 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: babygirlonly1; P-Marlowe; jude24
I test you daily - Body of Christ, and you do not even notice. You are too busy striving for a tomorrow that may never come.

The above is an interesting line from God. First, it is in the first person singular....that is, it begins with "I." This writing claims to be God actually talking.

More interesting is that in this God seems to be talking to "the body of Christ." That means the "Church." So...we have God talking to the Church.

God then tells the church to quit striving for "a tomorrow that may never come."

This is very odd because it seems to indicate that the church could die out because "tomorrow may never come." (That is in direct conflict with scripture.)

Also, since this is God, doesn't God know if tomorrow will or won't come? It says "may" never come. Shouldn't God know? And if He does know, then why is He being coy? And if He doesn't know, then doesn't that raise a red flag?

183 posted on 05/02/2005 6:51:29 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

It IS included in the bible, that The Lord will raise up for His purpose prophets.

Ambassadors of the united states speak on behalf of the country and the president and of course the president tecnically speaks for us.

So therefore if God calls US, you and I His ambassadors as it says IN THE BIBLE, what is so strange that about the fact that it did come from God in the first person?

Again, it is in the Bible.



184 posted on 05/02/2005 6:54:46 PM PDT by babygirlonly1
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To: Quix; xzins; BriarBey
I think that is very shallow reasoning. Please see my post above a post number or 3.

It's hardly shallow reasoning Quix. If you believe those words you posted at the top of this thread are the very words of God, then they are more authoritative than scripture. Yet you don't give them the same authority as scripture, do you? No! Why is that? Probably because you are not all that sure they are the words of God, are you?

Well I don't believe they are the words of God. I don't know this prophet from Adam and there are allegedly thousands of prophets like her all of whom hear the audible voice of God and write these prophecies down, none of which ever come to pass.

Am I skeptical? You bet. I came from a religion allegedly started by one of these modern day prophets. Well the one that founded my former religion was a false prophet and I am convinced that the author of this so-called prophecy is a false prophet too. And since you are not ready to claim that these are truly the words of God, then I suspect that buried inside your heart is a voice yelling to you that this woman is a false prophet.

So quit listening to these false prophets and look towards scripture. Nothing in this so-called propehcy that is of any value is not a restatement of prior revelation. This prophecy has no value from a scriptural viewpoint and has no value from a practical standpoint. It serves nothing more than to put the author on some kind of pedestal saying that she is special because she hears the voice of God and writes it down. Well, I have a sister in law who hears the voice of God,too. She's as looney as they come. She's a certified skitzophrenic and thinks that she is the reincarnation of Jacob. She can quote bible verses with the best of them and she can put out these phoney baloney prophecies as fast as she can write. But she's no more a prophet of God than I am the King of Siam.

Show some skepticism Quix. Don't believe every spirit. And quit putting your faith and trust in these loons. Put your faith and trust in the Bible and in Christ.

185 posted on 05/02/2005 6:58:17 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: babygirlonly1; P-Marlowe; jude24
Again, it is in the Bible.

"I have much to say to this nation. Hear My Words.

America, you began well - the men who formed your foundation called on Me to make their way clear - those who believed in Me - interceded with great power in My strength to bring forth this land of promise.

You have done well in much - and well you know those things for you recite them daily to remind Me - it is good.

Body of Christ - you are to be the soul of this nation of promise - but instead you have sold much of yourself to gain the comforts of the flesh forgetting how My Son lived on the earth - owning nothing He wouldn't give. I test you daily - Body of Christ, and you do not even notice. You are too busy striving for a tomorrow that may never come. Your life and who you are is not found in what you will accomplish tomorrow - your life is who you are right now in this moment.

BG, I have quoted a section above. I have put it in red letters, because that is one way to show when the Lord is talking. You said it is in the bible already.

Could you tell me which book of the bible it is in? I don't remember ever reading it before. Please give the book, chapter, and verses.

Thanks for your help.

186 posted on 05/02/2005 7:00:20 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: P-Marlowe
Then I am the King of Siam

Hi, Yul.

187 posted on 05/02/2005 7:02:32 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

The bible says that it is the glory of God to conceal a matter and the glory of men to uncover a matter. Of course God knows if there will be a tommorow, it's His glory,and yet man does not know.The body of Christ would know if they were not too BUSY! They're SOOO busy that they haven't even noticed that they needed to repent which is what prohets are for, and The Lord is getting peoples' attention through them.Some people are so busy even the body of Christ that they are surfing the internet or watching T.V.and so on.That doesn't indicate that the church may die out,because as the HEAD, The Father wishes for us to be still and know that He is God in order to prevent us from dying out. By sending His prophets to proclaim repentance it of course prevents un necessary death, just as the news warns us if there is a hurricane coming.


188 posted on 05/02/2005 7:10:29 PM PDT by babygirlonly1
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To: xzins

How come you still don't understand that prophets speak the words of the Lord just as He called Samuel?

Did you read in there that it says The Lord will put His spirit upon all flesh and that some will dream dreams and some will prophecy?


189 posted on 05/02/2005 7:14:44 PM PDT by babygirlonly1
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To: babygirlonly1
You said that that passage above is already in the bible. I would like you please to tell me where it is. If you don't respond to my request, then I'll assume that you actually realize that it is not in the bible anyplace. It will be good for you to realize that.

It is not possible that "tomorrow may not come" for the Church. The Church will not die out. Period.

190 posted on 05/02/2005 7:21:40 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: babygirlonly1; xzins; Quix; BriarBey; jude24
Are those the actual dictated words of God?

Yes or no.

If so then they should be cannonized. They should become a part of our bible.

Do you give those words the same authority that you give to the letters of Paul or the Gospel of Mark?

If not, why not?

Can I get an answer?

191 posted on 05/02/2005 7:24:41 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: xzins

It's called Spiritual Gifts of the Holy Spirit. Every part of the body has it's own part or gift if you will.Your gift is as a chaplain and maybe more, others are praise and worship, others are laymen, missionaries, mothers, fathers etc...

Even before Samuel prophecied, The Lord said to Him that He would not let one word of His fall to the ground.

Sometimes even if we don't understand a gift, our hope is that The Lords' Will be done and I hope that we all do our part; wether we are the foot the hand the legs or the butt. LOL

In all seriousness I hardly see that Telling America to repent is wrong even if done in the first person of The Lord.

Yet I do agree that All things are possible.


192 posted on 05/02/2005 7:24:48 PM PDT by babygirlonly1
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To: xzins; babygirlonly1; Quix; BriarBey; jude24
It is not possible that "tomorrow may not come" for the Church. The Church will not die out. Period.

I focused on those words when I first read this "prophecy" too. That is clear evidence that this is a FALSE PROPHECY! It contradicts scripture. Tomorrow is promised to the "Body of Christ". This prophecy puts that assurance in doubt.

So, even if there is such a thing as a modern day prophet to America, this lady ain't one. Period. End of argument.

193 posted on 05/02/2005 7:27:58 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: babygirlonly1; xzins; P-Marlowe
The Holy Spirit doesn't tell people that tomorrow is not promised to the Church.

Things may get horrible for a while, but tomorrow is always promised to the Church. The Gates of Hell will never prevail against the Church built by Christ on the foundation of the Apostles, Matthew 16:18.

You're a false prophet.

194 posted on 05/02/2005 7:32:40 PM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Of course you can.

Sweetheart, if you will in no way intended to be harmful or sarcastic, I say the words are in the bible because as I look all through out the bible, the message is clear and the message is the same which is REPENT. Of course word for word those exact periods, commas, sentences, and puncuations are not directly in the bible but one word that sticks out to me that has remained consistent throughout the whole entire bible and it's ever loving purpose is to call all men to repentance and seek The Lord Jesus Christ who has told us to recieve His salvation. I believe your observation is that God is not speaking through this man. I know it's from God because God wants America to repent. America has started on it's foundation of "IN GOD WE TRUST" and so therefore we should return to that. How could God not want us to repent? Where would these words come from? We musn't negate the purposes of God. Is it feesible for this man to be punished for claiming to speak the words of God in the first person? How dare anyone say that it is not The Lord who calls all men to repentance.


195 posted on 05/02/2005 7:36:18 PM PDT by babygirlonly1
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To: xzins

Marlowe-- King of Siam

196 posted on 05/02/2005 7:38:59 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe

Hey just to clarify on behalf of whats true and good, never did I ever say that the church would die out. Never ever! God help us, my feelings are hurt. I never ever even said that I was a prophet either, although I wouldn't mind to be what ever God called me to be.


197 posted on 05/02/2005 7:41:40 PM PDT by babygirlonly1
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To: babygirlonly1
Are you Marsha Allred? If so then you are a FALSE PROPHET.

REPENT!

198 posted on 05/02/2005 7:46:30 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: jude24; xzins

TWFW


199 posted on 05/02/2005 7:49:41 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Too weird for words)
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To: babygirlonly1; P-Marlowe; jude24
of course...word for word...are not in the bible

Case closed. It is not in the bible. I'm glad you have acknowledged that.

Since this claims to be a direct communication from God Himself, do you think it SHOULD be put in the bible? After all, the guy claims it is the very word of God.

200 posted on 05/02/2005 7:52:29 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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