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Illegal immigrants 'are not free-loaders,' says Guatemalan bishop
Catholic News Service ^ | 04.13.05 | Agostino Bono

Posted on 04/21/2005 9:20:39 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: sdpatriot
there are even socialists here on FR. i don't know that they are even aware of it. but by their rhetoric - and this "bishops" and our "spread the wealth" politicians - they all are. know them by their fruit.

What the hell are you talking about, it's your side who demonizes those evil farmers and other business owners all for the crime of hiring the wrong people to pick crops and build buildings.

141 posted on 04/22/2005 5:44:46 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: sdpatriot
Much as those who claim that 'despicibble forreners' are taking away their socialist entitlements meant for them?
142 posted on 04/22/2005 5:52:37 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: sdpatriot

I agree. Distain for those they are too cowardly to be.


143 posted on 04/22/2005 5:59:16 PM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: Dane
"Go sieg heil yourself, czar."

Oh my. Looks like you've inadvertently revealed where your national allegiance lies -- Germany.

I sure hope you haven't committed a breach of the rules here. You know how they issue timeouts for ad hominem attacks. Suggesting someone is a Nazi might just do it for you.

144 posted on 04/22/2005 6:00:33 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Dane

i have no idea what you are babbling about Dane. i have stated more than once that my only "side" or "agenda" is - God and Country. if you can't handle that .. well, too bad. i don't care.

and i was raised by a FDR democrat farmer. i have certainly never demonized a farmer in my life. i've had some pretty heated discussions with Dad over the socialist farm programs though. but what can i say? he was programed by the - there's a program for every problem - New Deal.

wake up... gvt new deals like Ag Amnesty are just socialist bs. you've been "programed"

if our own gvt can't obey and enforce the existing laws, maybe they should shred the last 120 years of laws, bills etc. and just follow the Constitution.... now that would be novel...


145 posted on 04/22/2005 6:00:37 PM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: sdpatriot
i have no idea what you are babbling about Dane. i have stated more than once that my only "side" or "agenda" is - God and Country. if you can't handle that .. well, too bad. i don't care.

Yeah you just babble your own animus against people who own farms and build buildings about the people they hire and hide behind "God and country".

I love this country just as much as you do, I just don't have the animus or control freakishness against people who do good things, such as grow food or build things, like you seem to have.

146 posted on 04/22/2005 6:08:26 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
No impression, just the truth.

Something that alludes you.
147 posted on 04/22/2005 6:10:00 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Czar
I sure hope you haven't committed a breach of the rules here. You know how they issue timeouts for ad hominem attacks. Suggesting someone is a Nazi might just do it for you

Pot calling kettle balck again, shall we go back to your reply #138, where you called me a "FOQNA"(freeper of questionable national alliegence).

So what if you try to get me banned for stating the historical fact that the nazi's thought the Jews had questionable national allegience also.

148 posted on 04/22/2005 6:13:19 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Cultural Jihad

>>Much as those who claim that 'despicibble forreners' are taking away their socialist entitlements meant for them?<<<



and i am against socialism - or "social intitlements" as you call it. i'm against it. period.


149 posted on 04/22/2005 6:14:32 PM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: All
My Questions about the whole ILLEGAL immigration issue are:::(BTW I am not against LEGAL immigration)

When do we get to the point of declaring the Federal Government in breach of contract with us? "They", after all, work for "us".

When do "we" get to the point when "we" decide, that "we" have to deploy the "militia", to protect the southern border, which is not being protected by those who "we" have vested the power to do so?

Where is the threshold where "we" decide it's time to deploy 5 to 10,000 armed citizens along the Mexico border to stop what the government refuses to stop?

This is our country, not THEIRS!!
If they want a better life, then they should build one of their own, in their own country!!

Are we citizens, or serfs?

150 posted on 04/22/2005 6:15:14 PM PDT by kt56
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To: Dane

ummm... you know that beef you buy ?

we grow that..

LOL

by ourselves...


151 posted on 04/22/2005 6:16:50 PM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Kick them all out and let them either fix their own country or starve to death!


152 posted on 04/22/2005 6:21:35 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: kt56
Are we citizens, or serfs?

Serfs, if the hermetically close the border people have their way.

You know telling those evil business owners the kind of people they have to hire, a kind of right wing affirmative action.

BTW, I'm all for a guest worker program. Get these people documented instead of the madness we have had for 40 years since LBJ got rid of the bracero program.

153 posted on 04/22/2005 6:21:37 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane

>>>people who do good things, such as grow food or build things,<<

and thankyou for the compliment. i think it is a good thing too to grow and build things. my whole family are carpenters and farmers and ranchers. it's a good life if you do it God's way.


154 posted on 04/22/2005 6:21:46 PM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: sdpatriot
and thankyou for the compliment. i think it is a good thing too to grow and build things. my whole family are carpenters and farmers and ranchers. it's a good life if you do it God's way

And is it a sin against God if a rancher, farmer, etc.etc hires someone named Jose to help out?

155 posted on 04/22/2005 6:24:26 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
"...your reply #138, where you called me a "FOQNA"(freeper of questionable national alliegence)."

Thin soup, Dane, very thin soup.

"So what if you try to get me banned for stating the historical fact that the nazi's thought the Jews had questionable national allegience also."

I thought we agreed you would at least try to put a rational thought together and avoid babbling. Clarity, Dane, please strive for clarity.

156 posted on 04/22/2005 6:24:36 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar
Thin soup, Dane, very thin soup

Ah czar is all upset when his bitter gruel is thrown back into his face.

157 posted on 04/22/2005 6:27:25 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
Now that's better.

Knew you could manage a coherent post if you tried hard enough.

Good work.

158 posted on 04/22/2005 6:32:18 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: ClintonBeGone; Cultural Jihad; jjbrouwer
And let me make a very clear suggestion to you "Marine Inspector" - if you're going to address me, have the nuts to ping me to your post. I would think with the trouble you got yourself into with JJ, you would have the partial sense to shut up and cut your losses, rather than act like a coward and talk about people without providing them the courtesy of some notice.

This puts us in a bind. Marine Inspector, outed as a liar and bully, pleaded with the moderators to prevent you (CBG) and me from posting to him and he said he would avoid posting to us.

While he and the old bootlick gang continually badmouth you and call us both traitors, I think they are afraid to directly communicate given their inability to either tell the truth or answer fully questions put to them.

Marine Inspector is joined at the lip with bootlick and buckeroo and other spoil sports at Liberty Post and are quite accomplished spammers.

Have you seen that comic book with bootlick? Is that Travis' latest?

BTW, Nethercott just went into the pokey.

159 posted on 04/22/2005 6:35:02 PM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: kt56

>>If they want a better life, then they should build one of their own, in their own country!!<<<

i agree. but many here don't seem to hold our Country as dear as you do ... and would sell it cheaply.


160 posted on 04/22/2005 6:36:01 PM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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