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An opposing view: Descendant of black Confederate soldier speaks at museum
Thomasville Times-Enterprise ^ | 24 Feb 2004 | Mark Lastinger

Posted on 02/25/2004 11:52:26 AM PST by 4CJ

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To: Modernman
in other words, you are a scalawag.

to quote Bill Faulkner:

"NOTHING WORSE may be said of a man, than he be named a scalawag & traitor to his native southland."

faulkner was/IS correct.

free dixie,sw

2,641 posted on 08/04/2004 5:48:15 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: #3Fan; stand watie
You're exactly right. I think I might spend the rest of my life whining about what the Vikings did to my English ancestors. Eric the Red was a Tyrant!!!!! LOL

People like SW have bought into the ethnic grievance industry. Like blacks seeking reparations, Mexicans dreaming of an independent Southwest, Irish-Americans giving money to the IRA etc., he believes that because of something that happened to his ancestors, the world (and the USA) owes him something.

He would get along just fine with Jesse Jackson,

2,642 posted on 08/04/2004 5:51:38 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: stand watie
Ah, so anyone who considers themselves an American first, rather than a Southerner, is a traitor.

I wonder how the many Southern men and women serving in the military would respond to you calling them traitors. Not well, I imagine. I challenge you to say that to the next Marine from Alabama or Texas that you run into.

2,643 posted on 08/04/2004 5:54:33 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: Modernman
the north/USA only owe us CSA descendants an APOLOGY for the MASS rapes,robberies,tortures,lootings of churches & synagogues, & the coldblooded MURDERS of TENS of THOUSANDS of INNOCENT, UNarmed civilians & helpless POWs, by the "filth that flowed down from the north".

NOBODY, that i know of in the southland , wants any more than an admission of guilt for the WAR CRIMES & an APOLOGY from the government for those ATROCITIES, committed against our families.

simple DECENCY requires no less than that!

free dixie,sw

2,644 posted on 08/04/2004 6:18:17 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: Modernman
any soldier,sailor,coastie or marine, that has a BRAIN, KNOWS that loyalty to ones God,family & state are AT LEAST equally important to some amorphous "America first" NATIVIST nonsense.

btw, one of my proudest possessions is an official WAR DEPARTMENT poster, dated 1942, which features the US FLAG & CSA BATTLEFLAG crossed, with the legend:

"Join the Army and Help the South Win the War."

free dixie,sw

2,645 posted on 08/04/2004 6:24:45 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: Modernman
btw, i'm a retired army MP, with 20.5 years service.

i flew a CSA battleflag & a TEXAS flag from my radio antennas, the whole time i was overseas, during the war in RVN with NOT ONE COMPLAINT from ANYBODY!

btw, did YOU serve your country in COMBAT????

free dixie,sw

2,646 posted on 08/04/2004 6:43:04 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: Modernman

Why he's allowed to call names in such a bigoted way around here is a mystery. I guess because he's so dumb, maybe they feel sorry for him.


2,647 posted on 08/04/2004 6:59:36 AM PDT by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: Modernman

As he admits in his last post to me. lol


2,648 posted on 08/04/2004 7:00:33 AM PDT by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: #3Fan; Modernman
did either of YOU serve in the armed forces of the USA??? ever heard a shot fired in anger???

free dixie,sw

2,649 posted on 08/04/2004 7:05:08 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: Modernman

You know what's really sad is this guy is a Republican delegate at the state conventions. No wonder Kerry's leading in Virginia with delusional bigots like Stand Watie representing the Republican Party. 'Bout like George Ryan in Illinois, some of our representatives do far more harm than good.


2,650 posted on 08/04/2004 7:05:17 AM PDT by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: stand watie
any soldier,sailor,coastie or marine, that has a BRAIN, KNOWS that loyalty to ones God,family & state are AT LEAST equally important to some amorphous "America first" NATIVIST nonsense.

I have not known anybody in the military who is more loyal to, say, Idaho than the USA. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't members of the military take an oath to this country and its Constitution, rather than their state?

2,651 posted on 08/04/2004 7:08:07 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: #3Fan
and you served where?? with what combat unit??

free dixie,sw

2,653 posted on 08/04/2004 7:10:49 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: #3Fan; stand watie
Why he's allowed to call names in such a bigoted way around here is a mystery. I guess because he's so dumb, maybe they feel sorry for him.

There are a few cranks around here. I think management lets them stay for the humor value. His insults are the equivalent of a 5 year-old swearing. They're more amusing than offensive.

More troubling is his advocacy of treason and insurrection. At the end of the day, I don't think SW is a loyal American. Nobody takes his kind seriously, though.

2,654 posted on 08/04/2004 7:10:50 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: stand watie
did either of YOU serve in the armed forces of the USA??? ever heard a shot fired in anger???

Did you know John Kerry served in Vietnam?

2,655 posted on 08/04/2004 7:11:36 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: Modernman
interesting question.

during WW2, FDR (upon being told that MANY southern boys had answered the question, "Have you or any of the members of your family ever fought against the United States?", YES,)said that: "HONORABLE service to the CSA was AMERICAN SERVICE & NOT disqualifying." (emphasis, mine.)

free dixie,sw

2,656 posted on 08/04/2004 7:15:55 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: Modernman
NOT honorably.

imVho, he should have been re-called to AD (as he was a comissioned USNR officer at the time), to answer charges that he was DISLOYAL to his compatriots-in-arms, while they were "in the field against a hostile force".

free dixie,sw

2,657 posted on 08/04/2004 7:19:09 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

The shot was fired in anger against me. lol I guess they weren't really trying to hit me though because it was nearly point blank and I'd be dead if they were really trying to hit me. I got the message though. I had mistakenly tresspassed on a piece of property I thought was abandoned and it wasn't. Imagine my surprise. We used to go haunted house hunting in the middle of the night, boozin and cruisin, you get the picture. This house wasn't haunted, it had a real person in it. You'd never thought it had anyone in it from the outside but it did. Never made that mistake again.


2,658 posted on 08/04/2004 7:20:18 AM PDT by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: #3Fan; stand watie
You know what's really sad is this guy is a Republican delegate at the state conventions. No wonder Kerry's leading in Virginia with delusional bigots like Stand Watie representing the Republican Party

He and his ilk hate this country, hate everyone north of the Mason-Dixon line and hate the values that most of us hold.

At the end of the day, much like their liberal counterparts, they want to see America fail.

2,659 posted on 08/04/2004 7:20:59 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: stand watie
during WW2, FDR (upon being told that MANY southern boys had answered the question, "Have you or any of the members of your family ever fought against the United States?", YES,)said that: "HONORABLE service to the CSA was AMERICAN SERVICE & NOT disqualifying." (emphasis, mine.)

We needed infantry to fight the Nazis. FDR was smart enough to not disqualify some rednecks just because they were stuck in the past.

2,660 posted on 08/04/2004 7:22:29 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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