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Bush reaches out to conservatives to quell revolt
Forbes ^ | Feb. 20, 2004 | Adam Entous

Posted on 02/22/2004 8:05:00 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: Hank Rearden
...('free' pills for the Greedy Geezer vote-buying scam, huge increases in spending/debt, steel tariffs, Welfare Farmer subsidies, etc. etc. etc. more more more, spend spend spend)...

.....and defeating Bush will make that all go away? Will it? I can't hear you.

121 posted on 02/22/2004 9:43:10 PM PST by Consort
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To: jammer
Michigan

I have to slightly correct you here. Engler first won in 1990

BUT, Proposal A happened in 94(I think).

122 posted on 02/22/2004 9:43:26 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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To: jammer
My guess is that Bush will turn even MORE "compassionate" in a second term.

No way! He will form another priority list that will differ greatly from the first.

He will ask and is asking now for the conservative input to make that list.

I got mine last week.

It will be a differnt situation and I expect vetos as he no longer will need some of the support that he has had to garner. The political dynamics will change greatly.

I guess we will differ on this for sure.

123 posted on 02/22/2004 9:44:31 PM PST by Cold Heat (Peace, n.: In international affairs, a period of cheating between two periods of fighting. --Ambrose)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Thanks. You are, of course, correct.
124 posted on 02/22/2004 9:45:55 PM PST by jammer
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To: wirestripper
I guess we will differ on this for sure.

Yes, we will. Good night.

125 posted on 02/22/2004 9:46:44 PM PST by jammer
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

126 posted on 02/22/2004 9:46:58 PM PST by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F'in Kerry!)
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To: wirestripper
It will be a differnt situation and I expect vetos as he no longer will need some of the support that he has had to garner. The political dynamics will change greatly.

I've thought the same myself...

127 posted on 02/22/2004 9:47:59 PM PST by Tamzee (Hey, Bush supporting lurkers! Create an account and speak up! This is a critical year for the USA!)
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To: dalereed
Ooooooooohoohoohooooooo... That was good!!!
128 posted on 02/22/2004 9:48:30 PM PST by SierraWasp (EnvironMentalism is NOW beyond the point of "Diminishing Returns!" GANG-GREEN is setting in!!!)
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To: deport
I am glad to hear it.

Judging from what I read here, Bush is going to lose by a landslide and the so-called conservatives will be dancing on the streets, cheering the Kerry victory.
129 posted on 02/22/2004 9:48:34 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: GeronL
"He just cannot afford to sign something that raises ANY tax at all."

==

You are right. Bush's Father lost because he allowed the Dems to push him into raising taxes, which, then, they used against him.

I am sure Bush learned from history.
130 posted on 02/22/2004 9:50:19 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: jungleboy
I thought the big gov/no first amendment/Illegal Aliens were his base.

That's the future GOP base....after the conservatives throw one tandrum too many. However, the Dems will fight Bush on the amnesty issue...they want that one for themselves, along with the millions of future votes that go along with amnesty. Score: Dems/Illegals - 1, GOP/Conservatives - 0.

131 posted on 02/22/2004 9:51:25 PM PST by Consort
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To: jammer
I can't help but agree with you, that Bush 41 did not come across to the conservative voter and he lost as a result.

In point of fact, it appeared to me that he gave up the fight.

I do not know why. Depression perhaps, but he would have been different and more confrontational with the rats IMO, if he had won a second.

Just my opinion, it is all moot because republicans stayed home in large number for two election cycles. Dole was a loser as well.

132 posted on 02/22/2004 9:52:06 PM PST by Cold Heat (Peace, n.: In international affairs, a period of cheating between two periods of fighting. --Ambrose)
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To: wirestripper
Oops. Can't go to bed without one other question (preface by saying that I think I got the same thing last week--but trashed it). Do you really think that the "list" is anything more than a marketing strategy to try to shore up the base--as the article says they are trying to do? Sorry, I don't.

For one thing, if Bush has to ask what conservatives want or what conservatism is, then that's a prima facie case for not voting for him.

133 posted on 02/22/2004 9:52:12 PM PST by jammer
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To: FairOpinion
AFTER Bush gets elected to a second term, maybe we can start a grassroots movement to eliminate the IRS and substitute it with a "fair tax",

Or he can drift further left with no concern of needing to be re-elected. Where is the guarantee this splended scenario won't happen? It's been a bumpy road in an election cycle when Conservatives are needed, what happens when we revert to being "insignificant malcontents" in the words of some Pubbie before Americans?

134 posted on 02/22/2004 9:52:22 PM PST by Kudsman (Read any good Zots lately?)
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To: FairOpinion
You got it bass-ackwards there, FO. The message I get from the story is that Bush and his team are finally listening to the conservatives what brung him to the White House.

They do seem a bit surprised by the outcry from conservatives. I guess they figured we'd just grab our ankles, and thank them for the opportunity to be screwed by our side.

135 posted on 02/22/2004 9:53:02 PM PST by tgslTakoma (Why call it ANSWER? It's Workers World Party! BUGGING OUT OF DC on March 20, 2004)
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To: John Jorsett
But will they end the ethanol and other corporate welfare boondoggles so as to actually save billions and help fund the Terror War rather than the Terror? That would be truly conservative.
136 posted on 02/22/2004 9:54:07 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: FairOpinion
after all, as I keep pointing out, to the mentally blind and deaf...

Gee, thanks for the kind words.

137 posted on 02/22/2004 9:54:47 PM PST by tgslTakoma (Why call it ANSWER? It's Workers World Party! BUGGING OUT OF DC on March 20, 2004)
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To: wirestripper
Yes. 1996 was the only election I didn't vote in since 1968. It was as if Dole was annointed--all of a sudden, he had all this money and all the conservative press. There were many attractive conservative candidates--and Klinton was hurting badly, even though he had just emasculated Gingrich. I've always wondered how we got Dole as a candidate.
138 posted on 02/22/2004 9:54:52 PM PST by jammer
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To: FairOpinion
Well one thing is certain. You have changed no minds or influenced anyone of anything here tonight! Sweet dreams...
139 posted on 02/22/2004 9:56:01 PM PST by SierraWasp (EnvironMentalism is NOW beyond the point of "Diminishing Returns!" GANG-GREEN is setting in!!!)
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To: FairOpinion; wirestripper; SierraWasp; archy
"Punishing Bush's Father worked out really well for conservatives, didn't it: gave us 8 years of Clinton. "

I haven't yet come to a firm determination of whether that was the intended result.

Both of those men worked hard to push Agenda 21 forward, but this President has without any doubt, done more to get the program up and working full steam than both predecessors.

We have traded technology beyond the belief of all Americans with China, India, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and all the Eastern European countries.

We have accepted more uneducated aliens into America than in any other 12 years with the current program headed towards another 10 million per year.

We have allowed more liberty restraint laws on American citizens to be passed by Congress than any other time, including both World Wars.

You continue to believe that this is all for the security of America. I believe this is a truly false security with the intentions of reducing the liberty of our citizens. Eventually (within a decade) we will all have National ID Cards, our every move will be recorded electronically, our phone calls and electronic communications are all scanned right now.

You consider this to be security, I see it as an invasion of privacy. Because I am in wheel chair, I get searched everytime that I take a commercial flight. You have no idea whatsoever how much that gets under my skin, having a person, who speaks with an accent, helping me remain standing while some other alien searches the fabric of my wheelchair with a wand. I hate having to tolerate just the feel of their hands on my body.

If you want to know more about me just click on my name and you'll go to my 'about' page.

"All truth goes through three stages.
First it is ridiculed.
Then it is violently opposed.
Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)

140 posted on 02/22/2004 9:56:03 PM PST by B4Ranch (Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent.--Eleanor Roosevelt)
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