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Supreme Court Seems Open to Allowing Some Presidential Immunity, May Delay Trump Trial: Follow the Questions the Justices Asked
Epoch Times ^ | 04/25/2024 | Sam Dorman

Posted on 04/25/2024 10:29:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 04/25/2024 10:29:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Delay till Trump is inaugurated, then rule a former president can be charged. That way all the previous ones can be arrested, but since Trump is the incumbent he can’t, at least for 4 years.


2 posted on 04/25/2024 10:38:37 PM PDT by Greg123456
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To: SeekAndFind

Abraham Lincoln committed a “fundamentally evil” act described by Sotomayor.


3 posted on 04/25/2024 10:40:39 PM PDT by nwrep
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They should order ALL trials HALTED until after the election. there would be mass suicides on the left. And $DJT stock would explode, provoking yet more suicides.


4 posted on 04/25/2024 10:50:28 PM PDT by montag813
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To: SeekAndFind

I want to see some judges and DAs heads roll on the back
end of this political judicial schlock!


5 posted on 04/25/2024 10:55:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands. )
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"She specifically asked about an assassination by SEAL Team Six—something Justice Samuel Alito suggested was not plausibly legal."

Wasn't Osama Bin Laden assassinated by a SEAL Team?

6 posted on 04/25/2024 11:30:14 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (The South will be in the right in the next war of Northern aggression.)
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"Crafting a New Standard"

The leftists want the U.S. Supreme Court to establish a set of rules - a process - by which, the Department of Justice shall exercise Chief Executive administrative power OVER the President of the U.S.A.


7 posted on 04/25/2024 11:37:27 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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Mike Davis said that’s going to happen.


8 posted on 04/25/2024 11:45:38 PM PDT by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis and a Rainbow Bully)
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To: SeekAndFind

Re my reply 7, above:

"Crafting a New Standard"

The leftists want the U.S. Supreme Court to establish a set of rules - a process - by which, the Department of Justice shall exercise Chief Executive administrative power OVER the President of the U.S.A.

The left wants the U.S. Supreme Court to establish a "Two State Solution."

So the left can use The Dept. of Justice Administrative State to "run the country" and "do the nation's business" when there is not a "Democrat in the White House."


9 posted on 04/25/2024 11:58:07 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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“May delay trial until after the election”.

That is what has them so concerned. After the election there will be no need for a trial.

Here is a piece from Amy Howe at Scotusblog:

“Supreme Court appears likely to side with Trump on some presidential immunity”

https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/04/supreme-court-appears-likely-to-side-with-trump-on-some-presidential-immunity/


10 posted on 04/26/2024 12:05:56 AM PDT by CFW
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Common law courts abhor decisions that are black and white. They decide cases on a case by case basis which keeps things ambiguous, and amplifies the power of the courts. The decision will declare that for some things Presidents have immunity, but not all, and the courts below will start again to decide the matter.


11 posted on 04/26/2024 12:13:32 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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That's my problem. He has immunity....But not from the throes of Congress who has the power to impeach and remove. And if they didn't go after him for these "crimes" while he was President...it must be that they were NOT crimes.

The power to challenge the "behavior" of the President belongs to Congress not the courts.

12 posted on 04/26/2024 2:30:00 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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We have a system to try a President for bad behavior..It’s called Congress: Impeachment by the House and Tried by the Senate. There should be no side trials.


13 posted on 04/26/2024 2:35:09 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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So did Obama. Killing American citizens with drones overseas


14 posted on 04/26/2024 3:26:41 AM PDT by STJPII ( )
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PDJT was acting both as President and candidate on 1/6. Under the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protection provision and his oath of office wherein he swears to faithfully execute the laws of the United States as chief executive. Was he to ignore multiple reports around the country of fraudulent voting? What if he wasn’t standing for re-election but asked his second in command Vice President to ask disputed states to re-examine their results? Would that be illegal? Democrats are trying to convince everyone that the Federal Government has no say-so yet the Constitution merely gives the States responsibility for “administration” of elections. Election Security is under the responsibility of Homeland Security and the DOJ, both Executive Branch and Presidential responsibility.


15 posted on 04/26/2024 3:34:15 AM PDT by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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I am surprised Trump’s lawyer did not argue that if the president does not enjoy immunity from prosecution by a DA for his official acts as president, then the proper way to bring such a case was impeachment by the House of Representatives and trial by the Senate. After all, in impeaching former President Trump who was by then a private citizen as the Democrats did, this set a precedent that the House and Senate sure thought this was where such a case could be brought.

Over and above that even, they should have argued that not only was the impeachment process set forth in the constitution THE proper way to bring any charges against a former president for his official acts as president, but such charges were already brought against President Trump for the Jan 6 BS and he was acquitted by the Senate. Therefore bringing a case yet again in district court violates the 5th amendment provision against double jeopardy even if the SCOTUS held that the law courts rather than the impeachment process was the place to try this.....and if they hold thusly, aren’t they saying the 2nd impeachment the Democrats did was pure and utter BS?


16 posted on 04/26/2024 3:40:17 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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Abraham Lincoln committed a “fundamentally evil” act described by Sotomayor.

He sure did. So did Obama when he had an American citizen and his nephew droned without due process. Seems to me that if district courts are the place to try this, then a DA needs to charge Barak Hussein Obama for the U.S. government's killings of U.S. citizens Anwar Al-Aulaqi, Samir Khan, and 16-year-old Abdulrahman Al-Aulaqi by drone in Yemen far from a conflict zone and without due process of law.

17 posted on 04/26/2024 3:47:51 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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That's my problem. He has immunity....But not from the throes of Congress who has the power to impeach and remove. And if they didn't go after him for these "crimes" while he was President...it must be that they were NOT crimes. The power to challenge the "behavior" of the President belongs to Congress not the courts.

Exactly the argument I would make. Its not that the president is immune. Its that the place to charge him is the House and Senate as set forth in the US Constitution....and don't tell me that doesn't apply to former presidents because the Democrats ALREADY DID SO with their dog and pony show second impeachment of then private citizen Trump for the Jan 6 mostly peaceful protest.

If the SCOTUS does not rule that the House and Senate is the place to impeach and try a president or former president, then it will be open season for every partisan DA in a partisan district to bring criminal charges against a former president of the opposite political party. For example, a DA in a deeply red district could bring criminal charges against former president Obama for killing American citizens away from a conflict zone with no due process of law.......Does the SCOTUS want to usher in a series of tit for tat prosecutions by highly partisan political hacks of every former president? If they do not hold that the House and Senate is the place to do so then that is exactly wha they are going to get.

18 posted on 04/26/2024 3:53:49 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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A delay until after November would be very good...a permanent delay would be best.
19 posted on 04/26/2024 4:28:49 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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I sensed we had a Trump rally inside the Supreme Court yesterday. All the questions by the justices seemed to point in the direction of supporting the president‘s right to immunity.


20 posted on 04/26/2024 4:52:34 AM PDT by magua (It's not racism, it's just that thisBecause it’s being reported that a lot of this started in 2015.)
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