HUGH HEWITT, HOST: Kirsten, as a Democrat and as a veteran of the Clinton administration, would you rank for me from most competent to least competent the three Democrats: Obama, Clinton and Carter. Who was the worst of those three on competence issues? KIRSTEN POWERS: Clinton was the most competent, obviously. And then, I don't -- you know, Carter, I was a child, so I didn't live through that. So I don't know if I have as much as a sense of that and I also have a little affection for him because of his human rights work... It is...