What I was referring to and what I think the men who said it to me were likewise is that the military has become something of a "job's program" to some people. I remember taking a class with a MA National Guardsman (who complained more than once that the Military has too many Republicans) who stated "I wear this uniform and I am an extraordinary person." No combat or overseas service, from what I recall he was fresh back from Basic Training, but he more than willing to lump himself in with those who did serve in adverse conditions. Also met a lady who had some desk job that gave her PTSD, somehow.