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  • Sorry, social conservatives: A Supreme Court defense of gay marriage won't be the next Roe v. Wade

    01/26/2015 7:45:38 AM PST · 6 of 39
    sasportas to C19fan

    When a country surrenders the moral high ground, they have lost it all.

  • Ted Cruz Just Launched His Iowa Campaign

    01/24/2015 9:14:50 PM PST · 124 of 220
    sasportas to 2ndDivisionVet

    I listened to Scott Walker’s speech in Iowa, he is not the firebrand Cruz is. A firebrand is what we need in these perilous times.

    Walker is a very intelligent and brave conservative, but so is Cruz. Walker is a good second choice. First choice for me: Cruz control.

  • I hate Ayn Rand — but here's why my fellow conservatives love her

    01/21/2015 7:34:59 PM PST · 61 of 76
    sasportas to All

    Re: the libs. I see a parallel with the black community, the inner city ‘hood, with no foundation in the Bible, they fall easy prey to Islam. And with the Mormons. People with a Biblical foundation do not fall prey to the claims of Mormonism.

    Most libertarians I know, with very few exceptions, are not Biblicists, which is why they fall prey to the Hedonist, dope smoking, homo, and same sex marriage libertarian movement. Most of them, like Ann Rand, far from having a Bible foundation, are atheists.

    Anyone with a true understanding of the scriptures, know automatically that Islam, Mormonism, and libertarianism, are false.

  • I hate Ayn Rand — but here's why my fellow conservatives love her

    01/21/2015 5:08:19 PM PST · 43 of 76
    sasportas to sasportas

    I re-post...but with a small correction:

    If atheist Ann Rand libertarian types were to gain the upper hand, we’ll have limited government and free markets, in a Sodomite supreme court and immoral Christ-less country...its SCOTUS justices appointed by Ann Rand libertarians.

    I shudder to think what kind of supreme court justices someone like (Ann) Rand Paul would appoint.

    When a country surrenders the moral high ground they’ve lost it all.

  • I hate Ayn Rand — but here's why my fellow conservatives love her

    01/21/2015 4:49:45 PM PST · 36 of 76
    sasportas to iowamark

    If atheist Ann Rand libertarian types were to gain the upper hand, we’ll have limited government and free markets, in a Sodomite supreme court and immoral Christ-less country...appointed by Ann Rand libertarians.

    I shudder to think what kind of supreme court justices someone like (Ann) Rand Paul would appoint.

    When a country surrenders the moral high ground they’ve lost it all.

  • Here We Go: Ted Cruz Revs 2016 Engine

    01/20/2015 1:41:22 PM PST · 24 of 36
    sasportas to privatedrive

    Walker is good too, especially on economic issues, but he isn’t nearly the all around outspoken conservative that Cruz is. By that, I include issues that mean so much to us cultural conservatives.

    I would reverse your two, I like Cruz/Walker.

  • Here We Go: Ted Cruz Revs 2016 Engine

    01/20/2015 1:36:08 PM PST · 22 of 36
    sasportas to noinfringers2

    Sounds like something a libertarian would say.

  • Here We Go: Ted Cruz Revs 2016 Engine

    01/20/2015 12:07:33 PM PST · 14 of 36
    sasportas to 2ndDivisionVet

    Anyone calling them self conservative who will watch this

    http://therightscoop.com/watch-ted-cruzs-full-speech-at-the-south-carolina-tea-party-convention/

    ...and not want to vote for Cruz, is someone who is not a true conservative.

  • Here We Go: Ted Cruz Revs 2016 Engine

    01/20/2015 11:39:40 AM PST · 4 of 36
    sasportas to iowacornman

    No doubt about it, Ted Cruz is head and shoulders above ALL the rest. He gets my vote.

  • Thoughts on the Anniversary of General Robert E. Lee's Birth

    01/19/2015 11:57:05 AM PST · 9 of 24
    sasportas to tophat9000

    Let’s see here, Yamamoto was responsible for the sneak attack at Pearl Harbor, America rose to its defense. R. E. Lee’s Virginia was attacked by the Union, he rose to its defense.

    Yep, just like Yamamoto.

  • John Knox: The Trumpet Blast of Scotland [Part Two: The Emerging Force (1547–1554)]

    01/17/2015 1:38:02 PM PST · 8 of 9
    sasportas to Wyrd bið ful aræd
    What Knox really meant

    The regs of this forum forbid mind reading.

  • Upon This Rock

    01/16/2015 7:07:54 PM PST · 52 of 227
    sasportas to Salvation

    If we put on a zero to ten scale, the worst heresies of the Christian era, the ones with the most far reaching consequences, Peter as the rock of the Matt. 16 passage, and not Jesus Christ, it has to rate at least a ten.

  • Jon Stewart To Rubio: ‘In Your Heart, You’re A Democrat’ [VIDEO]

    01/16/2015 5:51:26 PM PST · 11 of 16
    sasportas to ObamahatesPACoal

    No fan of open borders Rubio, but Stewart is far worse. I don’t like Stewart or the horse he rode in on.

  • Upon This Rock

    01/16/2015 5:36:30 PM PST · 33 of 227
    sasportas to aMorePerfectUnion
    the Roman denomination

    An accurate description. Not the trunk of the tree, the true universal church with Jesus Christ its cornerstone, but a Roman denomination with the Papacy its cornerstone.

  • Ron Paul Institute: Paris Terror Attack a 'False Flag Operation'

    01/16/2015 5:11:00 PM PST · 12 of 21
    sasportas to House Atreides
    Ron Paul is a “false flag” conservative.

    Man, you hit that one out of the park. You characterized him to a tee.

  • John Knox: The Trumpet Blast of Scotland [Part Two: The Emerging Force (1547–1554)]

    01/15/2015 12:15:52 PM PST · 6 of 9
    sasportas to Alex Murphy

    John Knox, my favorite reformer. No king but Jesus - in modern democracies like the US, that means “king” Obama and the left agenda.

  • Pope on Charlie Hebdo: There are limits to freedom of expression when faith is insulted

    01/15/2015 6:30:15 AM PST · 62 of 141
    sasportas to Texas Eagle

    Burning at the stake and torture for those who disagree with Rome, has historically been Rome’s stock and trade, which this Marxist Pope is chief representative of. Now he tells us Islamic terrorists shouldn’t be insulted. Go figure.

  • Russia Cuts Off Ukrainin Gas Supply

    01/15/2015 6:01:47 AM PST · 7 of 23
    sasportas to yldstrk
    This seems like very bad news to me

    I would think so. Yet, why isn't it mentioned on stock market sites like barron's? Stock traders make it their business to feature events like this. Neither Foxnews or Drudge have mentioned it.

  • Why Rand Paul Has No Shot In 2016

    01/15/2015 5:38:59 AM PST · 17 of 59
    sasportas to GSWarrior

    He has no chance because he is a libertarian. Libertarians are not conservatives.

  • Navy Unveils New Surface Warfare Strategy

    01/14/2015 6:07:38 PM PST · 33 of 37
    sasportas to allendale

    The era of surface warships is over.

    As far back as Gen. Billy Mitchell, the Air Force has been saying that. Air Force Generals since him have went even further, saying: “what do we need a Navy for anyway.” Never stopping to consider the same thing can be said for their sister service the Army, with its tanks, howitzers, ground troops, etc., all easy pickings from the air.

    Zoomie arguments to the contrary, there will always be the need for boots on the ground, ships on the sea.

  • PopeWatch: Deviant Forms of Religion

    01/14/2015 9:18:39 AM PST · 23 of 77
    sasportas to defconw
    Of course this is the same reason the next President of the United States will probably be Elizabeth Warren or some equal nitwit. But by all means lets worry about the Pope.

    God forbid this woman be president, but if so, I think we'd find this leftist liberation theology socialist Pope siding with her ever chance he'd get. Two peas in a pod.

  • PopeWatch: Deviant Forms of Religion

    01/14/2015 9:11:27 AM PST · 19 of 77
    sasportas to 556x45
    "Fundamentalist" a word

    over used and misunderstood or perhaps twisted to suit a particular agenda.

    I'll say. Catholics and the left have long used "fundamentalist" as a catch word. Usually its the evil Protestants that are "fundamentalist."

  • Minnesota climber scores a first on Mount McKinley, support team says

    01/13/2015 10:53:25 AM PST · 7 of 7
    sasportas to Starstruck

    About the book, “Minus 148 Degrees:”

    In 1967, eight men attempted North America’s highest summit: Mount McKinley had been climbed before but never in winter.

    Plagued by doubts and cold, group tension and a crevasse tragedy, the expedition tackled McKinley in minimal hours of daylight and fierce storms. They were trapped at three different camps above 14,000 feet during a six-day blizzard and faced the ultimate windchill low temperature of 148° F.
    “Minus 148,” a gripping survival story, a mountaineering classic for over 40 years.

  • Minnesota climber scores a first on Mount McKinley, support team says

    01/13/2015 9:56:54 AM PST · 6 of 7
    sasportas to Starstruck

    You are correct, I meant the temps on Mount McKinley. My bad.

    Ordinary January’s up there turn back all climbers. It’s no surprise to us that live here, that this guy has been able to climb the mountain this Jan.

  • Minnesota climber scores a first on Mount McKinley, support team says

    01/13/2015 9:30:03 AM PST · 4 of 7
    sasportas to TurboZamboni

    What is not mentioned in the article, is that January in Alaska is usually very cold, temperatures around 100 below. It has been the opposite this Jamuary, and all winter mostly.

    Alaska has had one low pressure system after another come through. The highs that normally bring extreme cold out of Siberia and the North Pole have been bypassing us. The ice in the Arctic is breaking records this January for, not its thickness, but its thinness.

  • Premillennialism and the Tribulation — Part IX: Conclusion

    01/11/2015 12:14:03 PM PST · 10 of 39
    sasportas to wmfights

    Walvoord’s 50 reasons puts me in mind of the big hoopla we had back in 1988, which was over a book a pretrib had written timed for that year, the book’s subject was, 88 reasons why the rapture would take place in 1988.

    All 88 reasons were wrong.

  • AMERICANS CUT A MAIN ROAD IN BELGIAN BULGE; U.S. SHIPS SHELLING GULF ON LUZON, TOKYO SAYS (1/8/45)

    01/09/2015 3:56:11 PM PST · 26 of 26
    sasportas to sasportas

    Both the Hell on Wheels division, the 2nd Armored, and the Spearhead division, the 3rd Armored, were on the northern flank closing the bulge, fighting alongside each other. Two of our finest armored divisions. I forgot to mention the 3rd Armored’s part in the fight.

  • AMERICANS CUT A MAIN ROAD IN BELGIAN BULGE; U.S. SHIPS SHELLING GULF ON LUZON, TOKYO SAYS (1/8/45)

    01/09/2015 3:49:13 PM PST · 25 of 26
    sasportas to Homer_J_Simpson

    My dad, deceased, was 2nd Armored. He gave me his book, “Hell on Wheels, The 2nd Armored Division,” by Donald E. Houston. No book was he more proud of.

    The 2nd Armored was Patton’s original division, and trained by him, he named it “Hell on Wheels.” That it was. I notice in the events of this day in the battle of the bulge, the 2nd Armored, Patton trained, on the northern flank closing the bulge, with Patton’s Third Army closing the bulge from the south. All playing important roles.

    The battle of the bulge reveals how far reaching Patton’s influence was in US tank outfits. Beyond just his Third Army - which most associate him with. Not only the 2nd Armored, but the commander of the 3rd Armored division, the “Spearhead” division, was also a Patton trained officerr, a transfer from the 2nd Armored.

    All played heroic roles in the bulge.

  • Has Jeb Bush shown Republicans a new way to talk about same-sex marriage? (Neighbor #2 gay in USA)

    01/07/2015 12:17:47 PM PST · 34 of 41
    sasportas to 2ndDivisionVet

    Jeb Bush weasel words. As if I need another reason to loathe this RINO.

  • Rand Paul’s Passive-Aggressive Trolling Campaign

    01/07/2015 12:14:54 AM PST · 15 of 17
    sasportas to 2ndDivisionVet

    RP is a libertarian posing as a Republican conservative - of sorts. In a state that he can get away with his masquerade, you get a blank stare in Kentucky if you mention that RP is a libertarian in disguise, they don’t know what libertarian is.

  • Premillennialism and the Tribulation — Part VIII: Midtribulationism

    01/06/2015 8:13:06 AM PST · 51 of 59
    sasportas to unlearner

    You presented many arguments to which I did not deal with, and all good ones, prewrath has many good arguments; not that I couldn’t have, it’s just the nature of wild and wooly forums like this, that the most one can accomplish is to “put in a few good licks” for your position and leave the rest to God.

    They were pretty good licks too, whether it dawned on you or not. Such as:

    Christ appearing “the second time,” Heb. 9:28, really means the second time - there is no third time.

    And Heb. 10:12,13, prewrath arguments to the contrary, really does mean what it says, Christ really does stay in heaven until his enemies are gathered together to be put under foot.

    And the “Lord” part of the day of the Lord really means him in PERSON, which is described in Rev. 19:11, “heaven opens” and he comes IN PERSON.

    And the “end” really does mean the “end.” in a most poignant way! The very end of this age, not seven years or even one year before the END.

    And just as the end really means the end, likewise “the last day,” it really does mean THE LAST DAY.

    I take my leave from this thread now, with this thought. Unlike pretribs, it is always a pleasure conversing with prewraths. Reason being we are really not that far apart. Though we stick to our guns, how all this is actually going to work out in real time, God, in his special way, is going to take care of.

    Pretribs aren’t going anywhere, no “first flight, no fight.” They have the antichrist in their future, like it or not. I think you and I would agree there.

    I believe once we get into the tribulation, a great many pretribs are going to be forced to abandon their comfy view. And what is that going to leave? Prewraths and Post-tribs. Our differences are really going to come into sharp focus by then, it will be the issue of the hour...but not until then.

    Until then, we have the tribulation ahead of us, no small thing! Until then, in real time it will work out we as allies against our common enemy, the antichrist, his mark, etc. I count prewraths good allies in that fight. God bless you.

  • Premillennialism and the Tribulation — Part VIII: Midtribulationism

    01/05/2015 6:37:21 PM PST · 42 of 59
    sasportas to unlearner

    I agree, the inter-testament period did not have the greater light they had in the NT... of course. My point was, where did such technical terminology as “the last day,” and “this world, and the world to come,” come from if it didn’t come from the inter-testament period? Such terminology the NT uses in a foundational way, adding detail to it, but not changing the basics of it.

    Your view, seems to posit drastic renovations to that basic outline, as if they had it wrong, I think not.

    On the timing of the rapture being the mystery revealed by Paul, I don’t agree with you. The particular take you have on 1 Cor. 15 seems pretty standard with both yourself and the pretribs. Nothing, however, is said in 1 Cor. 15:50-55, about the timing of the rapture being the mystery, it is bodily translation that is the mystery revealed.

    This passage is not a revealing of a pretrib or prewrath rapture...as the mystery. Rather the translation of the body at the post-trib 2nd coming.

    The timing of it is in verse 54, where Paul quotes Isa. 25:8, the setting of that passage in Isaiah is at the ushering in of the millennial - premill expositors agree on that. Following the cosmic catastrophism of the previous chapter, it more likely describes the singular event of the post-tribs rather than that of the prewraths, or the pretribs.

    A good example of basic OT prophetic truth, in this case the resurrection/rapture of Isa. 25:8, NOT being reinvented in the NT, but being built upon, more detail supplied (the translation of our bodies). True, not only of Isa. 25:8, but of such inter-advent terminology as “the last day,” and “this world, and the world to come.”

  • Premillennialism and the Tribulation — Part VIII: Midtribulationism

    01/05/2015 5:24:07 PM PST · 41 of 59
    sasportas to sasportas

    Correction on my point three, to be more precise, “stedfast unto the end” is from 3:14 not 6:11.

    Also, for a better reference of “the world to come” in Hebrews, see 2:5, where it states Christ, not angels, puts “in subjection the world to come.” This world, and the world to come had special prophetic meaning to those of NT times.

  • Premillennialism and the Tribulation — Part VIII: Midtribulationism

    01/05/2015 4:28:10 PM PST · 35 of 59
    sasportas to unlearner
    I appreciate your feedback. I think you have a very good point about Christ waiting in Heaven until the time His enemies become His footstool. Yet I do not see any specific support from the passages in Hebrews that requires defining Revelation 19 as when this happens. I take it that this conclusion is more generally drawn from the idea that His second coming is a singular event.

    Singular event, yes, I’d say that all right. I’ll try to break this down for you. On each point, I’m not going to look up all the passages, I think I am conversing with someone well versed in eschatological passages to know what I am talking about.

    1. This is the book of Hebrews, to interpret it rightly we need to know the prophetic background of the Hebrews. They weren’t amillennialists, they had a future premill kingdom hope, as reflected in the OT and their inter-testament literature. Neither were they pretribs or prewraths, the OT and inter-testament literature shows they looked to a grand singular event that would close out this age while ushering in the age to come (an earthly Messianic kingdom).

    2. One of the central eschatological themes developed in the inter-testament period was “this world (or age), and the world (age) to come.” Since this is cited in numerous places in the NT, Christ and the apostles must have continued in the same expectation. Heb. 6:5 alludes to it, it says, even in this age we have tasted of “the powers of the world/age to come.”

    3. In the book of Hebrews, “the end” had a particular meaning to them, 6:11, for instance, amidst apostatizing, they were continually admonished to keep faith in Christ “stedfast unto the end.” What end? The end of “this world,” or this age.

    4. The passages I have been citing from Hebrews, 9:28, 10:12,13, are in perfect agreement with my previous three points. Christ’s appearing “the second time,” and him not leaving heaven until his enemies are in position to be destroyed, to the readers of Hebrews was to occur at the “end” of this world/age. In one event, the closing out of this world while ushering in the next.

    5. Hence, the passages I have been citing are not stand alone, they are in perfect agreement with the rest of Hebrews, with the commonly held end "of this world – beginning of the next” prophetic expectation of the Hebrews.

    6. Is the prophetic expectation of the Hebrews one thing, while Rev. 19 presents something altogether other? I see no conflict, I’m quite confident the same expectation in Hebrews is what we see depicted in Rev. 19 – though in very apocalyptic language.

    7. Not only Revelation, but the rest of prophetic scripture has the expectation I have tried to bring out in Hebrews.

    8. Instead of reading NT prophecy through the prism of prewrath theory, try reading it as if they only believed in one event. It harmonizes very well.

  • Premillennialism and the Tribulation — Part VIII: Midtribulationism

    01/05/2015 11:06:45 AM PST · 30 of 59
    sasportas to wmfights

    Now look what you’ve done, true to your screen name, wmfights, you’ve got the three premill views, pretrib, prewrath, and post-trib in a fight. You knew your series would ocme to this some day didn’t you.

    By the way, what does the “wm” part of screen name mean?

  • Premillennialism and the Tribulation — Part VIII: Midtribulationism

    01/05/2015 10:10:05 AM PST · 27 of 59
    sasportas to unlearner

    Methinks you make the day of the Lord more complicated than it actually is.

    Simply put, man has had his “day,” the Lord (Jesus Christ) is going to have his. But man is not going to turn over power and control to Christ without a fight. The Lord, depicted in a number of places in scripture as a “man of war,” is well up to the task. He comes IN PERSON to defeat the enemies of his reign. He comes as Lord, the “Lord” part of “the day of the LORD.”

    Once again, the references from Hebrews. He is in heaven now, and will remain so, until he has his enemies - enemies of his coming reign - just where he wants them, i.e., gathered nicely together in a bunch, Rev. 19:19. At that point, and only at that point, does he leave heaven to take care of his enemies...IN PERSON.

    Not until then is power shifted from man to the Lord, not until then does he come as the Lord. On HIS day, the day of the Lord.

    That’s when he comes “the second time,” Heb. 9:28. The incarnation marked the first time he came, what we see described in Rev. 19 marks “the second time.”

    The first time he came as a Lamb, “once offered to bear the sins of many,” he comes “the second time without sin,” in other words, NOT to bear the sins of many as he did the first time, this time he comes as a lion. (See Heb. 9:28, Rev. 5:5)

    When Christ comes again, he comes as Lord or King, the kingdoms of this world become his at that point, Rev. 11:15, he remains in heaven until THEN.

    The rapture is our great hope to be sure, but it is but incidental to the greater purpose mentioned above, the emphasis in scripture is always his coming Lordship. That great day is HIS day, the day of the Lord.

  • Premillennialism and the Tribulation — Part VIII: Midtribulationism

    01/04/2015 11:16:35 PM PST · 17 of 59
    sasportas to unlearner

    My goodness, UL, I’d have to write a book to deal with all your points. I’ll only try to clarify one thing you said: namely, that I said the 2nd coming is not multiple events, yet I had multiple events in my description.

    When I said the 2nd coming is not multiple events, I mean a coming or rapture, whatever you want to call it, as an “event” taking place years before the the other “event,” the coming we see in Rev. 19.

    Pretribs have that first “event” taking place seven years before the other “event.” Mid-tribs have their first event taking place 3 1/2 years before the other event. Not sure how many years the prewraths have their first event taking place before the latter event, some say 1 1/2 years.

    But at any rate, they are two separate events - that’s what I meant by multiple events. Your “multiple events,” i.e., ...

    1. Christ descends from heaven to the earth
    2. resurrects and raptures the saints on the way down
    3. defeat his enemies at Armageddon

    are not my “multiple events.” Mine are different aspects of the same “event,” called variously in the scripture, appearing, coming, revelation, the last day.

    As to the units of time involved in the three you mentioned, the first two take place in the twinkle of an eye (1 Thess. 4). Number three? I don’t think it will take the Lord very long to dispose of his enemies...do you?

  • Premillennialism and the Tribulation — Part VIII: Midtribulationism

    01/04/2015 6:54:27 PM PST · 15 of 59
    sasportas to unlearner

    I don’t believe the 2nd coming is multiple events, that’s where we differ.

    Heb. 9:28 says when Christ appears it will be “the second time,” there won’t be a third time. In the next chapter, 10:12,13, it has Christ in heaven at the right hand “expecting” his enemies to be put under his feet. Which means he won’t be leaving heaven until then...to rapture anybody or anything else.

    His enemies aren’t put under his feet until chapter 19 of Revelation, which assuredly does NOT take place before the tribulation, nor the middle of it.

    Re: these two references in the book of Hebrews, 9:28 and 10:12,13, the writer of Hebrews must have believed the point in time that Christ descends from heaven to the earth to put his enemies under his feet would be when he appears “the second time.” No appearance, coming, or revelation until then.

    The chronology of Revelation, chapter 19 leading into chapter 20, makes it clear enough that his descent from heaven to destroy his enemies (put under foot) in 19:11-21, would be that “second time” of Heb. 9:28, and “the last day” of John 6, which ushers in the millennial reign of Christ (chapter 20).

    “The last day,” thus closes out this age while ushering in the next, the millennial. It doesn’t take two leaving heaven and descents from heaven (two 2nd comings), to accomplish this, one to resurrect and rapture the saints, another to defeat his enemies.

    He descends from heaven, resurrects and raptures the saints on the way down, 1 Thess. 4, continues, now with his saints, to defeat his enemies at Armageddon.

    Heb. 10:12,13, says he stays in heaven until his enemies are ready to be put under foot, chapter 19 of Revelation describes that very thing.

  • Premillennialism and the Tribulation — Part VIII: Midtribulationism

    01/04/2015 2:57:06 PM PST · 10 of 59
    sasportas to wmfights
    Very few mid-tribs around anymore, most have morphed into Rosenthal and Van Kampen's pre-wrath rapture camp.

    From a post-tribber's perspective, their problem is the same as the pretribs, they both have two second comings.

    The rapture of the pretribs and the prewrath's (and the older midtribs) amounts to a "first" second coming. Their "second" second coming identical to the singular second coming of the post-tribs occurring on "the last day."

    On the occasion of her brother Lazarus' death, Martha, like all Jews of Jesus day, believed the resurrection would take place on the last day.

    John 11:23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. 24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

    Jesus confirmed Martha and the Jews belief correct three times in the sixth chapter of John, here's what he said in verse 39

    And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

  • Should John Boehner be the Speaker of the House?

    01/04/2015 12:11:56 PM PST · 41 of 58
    sasportas to Zuben Elgenubi

    I’ll second that.

  • US Sen. Jay Rockefeller heads into retirement

    01/04/2015 12:07:35 PM PST · 14 of 25
    sasportas to Olog-hai

    Good riddance. Now, who are the people of the mountain state going to put in his place?

  • Catholics! Keep Your Trees Up!

    01/02/2015 7:13:51 PM PST · 148 of 181
    sasportas to FourtySeven

    My comments were not so much for you or your fellow Papists, I realize it is hard for you folks to believe this, but there really are people in this world who are sincere truth seekers. Your post is typical of those whose interest is only in defending an institution known the world over for its accommodation of paganism.

  • Catholics! Keep Your Trees Up!

    01/02/2015 3:31:25 PM PST · 139 of 181
    sasportas to FourtySeven

    Whether one worships the tree or not is irrelevant, the point is, if the pagan world cut trees out of the forest, decorates them, and makes them part of their pagan religion, as Jer. 10 says they did, which was THE WAY OF THE HEATHEN, then that is what we should NOT do.

    To adopt the way of the heathen and then call it by a Christian name, is very wrong, regardless to whether we actually worship the tree or not.

    Somebody has already posted this verse, I think it deserves repeating:

    “And they rejected his statutes, and his covenant that he made with their fathers, and his testimonies which he testified against them; and they followed vanity, and became vain, and went after the heathen that were round about them, concerning whom the LORD had charged them, THAT THEY SHOULD NOT DO LIKE THEM” (2 Kings 17:15).

    Christians are doing “like them,” a heathen practice, whether they worship the tree or not.

  • Premillennialism and the Tribulation — Part VII: Posttribulationism (continued)

    12/28/2014 5:01:36 PM PST · 35 of 111
    sasportas to free_life
    Great post. I love the way you tied the resurrection and millennial into it.

    These new resurrected bodies are for earth, new Jerusalem, the millennium rule of Jesus.

    Amen!

  • Premillennialism and the Tribulation — Part VII: Posttribulationism (continued)

    12/28/2014 4:07:38 PM PST · 28 of 111
    sasportas to jimmyray

    Likewise, your posts.

    Re: verse 9 of the discourse, “Then shall they deliver YOU up to be afflicted, and shall kill YOU, and YE shall be hated of all nations for my names sake.”

    Who’s the “You,” the “Ye?” Is it Judaism, which rejects Jesus, that is hated for his name’s sake? I think not. It is Christians who are hated for the name of Jesus, and increasingly so by the day.

    To say that the discourse is not spoken to Christians is one of the worst cases of reading into scripture one’s preconceived view, I’ve ever seen.

  • Premillennialism and the Tribulation — Part VII: Posttribulationism (continued)

    12/28/2014 3:38:47 PM PST · 22 of 111
    sasportas to sasportas

    Breaking this paragraph into two paragraphs, I try to have it make more sense:

    The Olivet Discourse was given from the standpoint of Judaism’s rejection of Christ, see the entire previous chapter, especially verse 38, “Your house is left unto you desolate.”

    The discourse was spoken to the founders of the church, the twelve disciples. Christ is not speaking to the disciples as representatives of Judaism, which rejected Christ, everything he said was said to, and for, the church.

  • Premillennialism and the Tribulation — Part VII: Posttribulationism (continued)

    12/28/2014 3:32:27 PM PST · 21 of 111
    sasportas to blue-duncan

    Jesus is going to be leaving his disciples very shortly, he is to be crucified, buried, and risen the third day. He has been training his disciples for 3 1/2 years, they are to take over the gospel work he has started, he is going away and leaving the church in their hands.

    His words, therefore, are for the church, not Judaism, including what he said about his coming in verses 29-31, when the elect, the church, would be raptured at the last trump. At the last day.

    The Olivet Discourse was given from the standpoint of Judaism’s rejection of Christ, see the entire previous chapter, especially verse 38, “Your house is left unto you desolate.” Spoken to the founders of the church, the twelve disciples. Christ is not speaking to the disciples as representatives of Judaism, which rejected Christ, everything he said was said to, and for the church.

    There is only one coming in the entire discourse, and it occurs after the tribulation. No mention of a pretrib rapture at all.

  • A new South rises and America wins – The beginning

    12/27/2014 2:06:30 PM PST · 38 of 46
    sasportas to broken_arrow1
    It’s the commie northwest and west that’s the problem.

    You must be referring to the commie "left coast." When you cross the cascades in the northwest, and the sierras in California, and get over in the eastern parts of those states, you'll find they are definitely not commies - as you assert.

  • What to Expect from the Christian Right in 2015

    12/27/2014 11:11:21 AM PST · 36 of 37
    sasportas to L,TOWM

    I understand. When its a governor who apparently believes this stuff, and someone who wants to be president, i.e. Rick Perry, its gets beyond just being amusing. At least to me.

  • What to Expect from the Christian Right in 2015

    12/27/2014 5:14:27 AM PST · 34 of 37
    sasportas to L,TOWM
    A “domminionist” is a Christian that believes Christ WILL NOT return until the entire world is evangelized to following Jesus.

    True, they are Postmillennialists, but there is more to "Dominion Theology" than that. In keeping with their postmillennialism, they believe Premillennial Christians (who believe Christ will return BEFORE the millennial) have got it backwards, the world is NOT getting worse and worse, it is actually getting better and better. Yeah right.

    Scripturally speaking, Dominionists are out in the weeds big time.