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How infant baptism came to be? In my understanding of church history, it started when Constantine made Christianity the official religion of the Roman empire. A former pagan empire, now to be made Christian. Christianity now a state church, was faced with a huge influx of pagans to be made Christian by baptism.

The state church saw the pragmatic, and much faster, answer to the problem, was to just sprinkle water on them. Once the former, and Biblical, mode of baptism was compromised, it was just a matter of time before they rationalized again, and began to sprinkle infants as their baptism.

Left out the word “is” in this paragraph -

The tribulation is defined by its persecution of those who do not worship the beast, neither his image, neither receive his mark. Rev. 20:4 says it is them “who had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark,” who are raised in the first resurrection.

According to Revelation, the first resurrection closes out this age, while beginning the next, the millennial kingdom.

It is impossible to make this event (the first resurrection, Rev. 20, when the post-trib rapture takes place) be a pretrib rapture.

The tribulation is defined by its persecution of those who do not worship the beast, neither his image, neither receive his mark. Rev. 20:4 says it them “who had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark,” who are raised in the first resurrection.

Clearly, Revelation has FIRST the tribulation, with its beast, and his image and mark. THEN the resurrection.

“Wheresoever the resurrection is, there will the rapture be also.”

The first resurrection is the “nexus” event, which, in one event, closes out this age while beginning the next - the millennial kingdom.

Privatizing the military is about the most idiotic thing I’ve ever heard. Outsourcing civilians to fight our wars overseas? Give me a break. I’m sure they can obtain rifles, but where’s their artillary, tanks, fighter jets and bombers, Navy destroyers, airraft carriers and aircraft, Marine Corps, etc.?

Our Army, Navy, Airforce, and Marines can’t do the job?

THE QUESTION NOT BEING ASKED IS *WHY* ARE THESE KIDS COMING OUT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS WANTING SOCIALISM

>Psalms 9:17, The wicked shall be turned into hell; and all the nations that forget God.

There was a time when the western world lived under a totalitarian pagan system, the imperial Roman Empire. Enter Christianity and the Bible in the time of Constantine, the result - the Roman Catholic Empire. Over a thousand years later, enter Protestantism and the Bible, the result - America the greatest example of Christian freedom. Freed from both pagan and ecclesiastical totalitarian tyranny.

Today in America, most have forgotten God (per the passage from Psalms cited above), THIS is the real answer to the question, “why are these kids wanting socialism.” Most of their parents have forgotten God...and our great Christian heritage of freedom, which comes from the Bible.

The charges against Servetus were that he rejected the Trinity in favor of Sabellian unitarianism, and that he rejected infant baptism. Eschatology wasn’t the issue.

>As all of Europe at that time was Amillennialist, both Catholic and Protestantism, as Premillennialism was yet to be discovered, of course eschatology was not the issue.

But Premillennialists such as myself, looking back to the time of Calvin, see Amillennialism a prime motivation behind the “purging” of the “kingdom of God,” meaning Protestant and Catholic Europe, of its alleged “heretics.” Though certainly not the only reason.

Also, thanks for bringing up infant baptism, another issue that Calvin was on the wrong side of, which I should have added to my list in my previous post.

Calvin, the disciple of the Catholic Augustine?

Calvin, the disciple of Catholic Augustine’s Amillennialism? Which was the main impetus behind Calvin and Geneva’s burning of Servetus...and other assorted victims as described in the lead article. Protestant Europe in Calvin’s time, being the millennial kingdom Protestants, following the lead of the Amillennial RCC before them, must exterminate heretics in God’s “kingdom.”

Calvin, the father of “once saved always saved” theology?

Doesn’t Giuliani know that communists, by definition, are anti-God, and as such believe the end justifies the means. Hence, lying means nothing to Brennan...whether under oath or not.

Didn’t he once cast his vote for the American Communist party? No wonder Obama, a fellow communist, picked him.

If Giuliani has great anticipation that Brennan under oath means he is going to tell the truth, he is making a great mistake. Never trust a communist to tell the truth.

Good post, my sentiments exactly. Never, never, under any circumstance will I vote for ANY demonrat. And that, right down to the local level.

Yes, I realize we’ve got RINO’s, but the dem party is in actuality the communist party. If I’m faced with the choice of voting for a RINO vs a any dem, I’ll hold my nose and vote for the Repub, any Repub. The worst Repub is better than the best Dem.

Most of the posters on this thread who say they would vote for a representative of the communist dem party over a RINO are probably Libertarians...I trust their judgment about as far as do a dem’s.

In this day and time, with the record the dem party has of being on the wrong side of virtually any issue - they voted God out at their Dem party convention, for heaven’s sake - how anybody can vote for a dem, ANY dem, is beyond me.

The Repubs have their RINO’s, but at least the Repubs, as a party, didn’t vote God out.

What I posted was strictly from the Biblical worldview. Sadly, America has fallen so far from that worldview, that it has lost its discernment. As to Trump, we know he didn’t bring up his children to be drunks. I commend him for that. Wish he had the same convictions towards narcotics.

I think it’s funny that you conflate religion with conservatism and pot with progressivism.

>I was not referring to “religion” per se. I quoted Christ’s words, Matthew seven...to which Christians look for answers.

From the way you talk, you must not be a Christian conservative, who has experienced progressives calling them narrow minded and out of step with the way society is going.

I can’t believe this, is not FR a conservative site? You wouldn’t think so to read this thread. As I write this, 40 “progressive” pro-pot posts and counting, with but two “conservative” posts dissenting.

As I understand it, “conservative” means to conserve, “progressive” - damn the conservative torpedoes full speed ahead to a new world of dope head progressives. Damn the Christians who still contend for Biblical-derived morals and values, full speed ahead...to their eternal destruction.

We Christians are too narrow-minded the progressives tell us. Too stuck in the past. Yes, we are narrow minded, and for a good reason. Our founder and Master warned us beware the wide progressive way that the majority will choose, with its end eternal destruction. Choose the narrow way that leads to life, he said, Matt. 7:14.

All right, goodbye Foxnews as my news channel, One America from now on.

One need look no further than the swastika for evidence of the Nazi’s fascination with occult mysticism.

Not only so, but Poland, along with Hungary and Austria, stand against the EU. This pro-EU Tusk fellow’s sentiments doesn’t jive with that of his own country. Poland stands with Trump against the EU.

The Poles are some of our best friends in Europe, they loved Reagan, and Trump probably more.

This snarky Tusk fellow’s comments about Trump and America, probably doesn’t set that well with his countrymen.

The commie left has so arranged it, that each of the three new “California’s” will still be controlled by them, i.e., by the big cities.

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“when his second coming would be near”

Right, “In the beginning, GOD created the heavens and the earth,” Gen. 1:1.

God is supernatural, as such He can do miracles, of which anything on the large scale, like creating heaven and earth, is any harder for him than the virgin birth, healing someone, turning water into wine, etc.

Of which, the natural or carnal mind, the unbelieving mind, cannot accept...or believe. To them, only natural causes, evolution taking a gazillion years, could have brought the heaven and earth into being.

Christ prophesied of our day, with his second coming would be near, he asked, “When the Son of man cometh, will he find faith on the earth?”

On long boring flights, being able to look out the window as the flight progresses helps to get me through the flight.

Especially when you have interesting terrain below you, like the Rockies, Cascades, and when flying to and from Alaska the majestic Wrangell-St. Elias, and Chugach ranges.