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  • Obama: Black America ‘Better Off Now than It Was When I Came into Office’

    12/19/2014 2:26:07 PM PST · 40 of 61
    Safrguns to Zakeet

    Yeah... tell that to the blacks who have lost their jobs to illegal immigrants!

  • Shock prayer: City calls on Allah, Zeus, Satan

    12/13/2014 3:47:11 PM PST · 21 of 31
    Safrguns to SkyPilot

    Not sure when this took place, but we should make a note of this city, and see if anything comes of it over the next few days or so...

  • Florida City Council meeting Praises SATAN! Three council members walk out!

    12/10/2014 8:37:06 PM PST · 17 of 32
    Safrguns to proust

    tsunami in 3.... 2.... 1.....

  • Florida City Council meeting Praises SATAN! Three council members walk out!

    12/10/2014 8:35:28 PM PST · 15 of 32
    Safrguns to proust

    I can imagine the look on the faces of all those false deities if they existed...

    “Who the hell you talking to??? Make up your damn mind!”

  • Fear Not: Quarter-Mile Asteroid Is No Threat To Earth, NASA Says

    12/09/2014 4:22:45 PM PST · 3 of 37
    Safrguns to BenLurkin

    lol... orbits can change...

    And our dear president messing with Israel is an effective way to “pray” for change...

    YES IT CAN!

  • BOEHNER REJECTS CALL To Boot Mr. Soetoro (aka BHO)

    12/04/2014 9:42:44 PM PST · 17 of 26
    Safrguns to Dick Bachert

    I don’t blame Boehner anymore.

    I blame the republicans that voted to keep him as speaker.

  • Scientists hail the most 'advanced anti-ageing serum' in the world

    12/01/2014 6:08:00 AM PST · 21 of 30
    Safrguns to TalonDJ

    >>> I really hope you are joking because that is the dumbest thing I have heard in ages. Viruses alter our DNA all the time.

    There are many things in the bible which sound pretty dumb and even inconceivable... and yet we are seeing them come to pass daily.

    My speculation on what form the mark of the beast could take is just as plausible as anything else. Everything you gave as an example to refute my point does not physically change us into something we are not.

  • Scientists hail the most 'advanced anti-ageing serum' in the world

    12/01/2014 12:10:08 AM PST · 7 of 30
    Safrguns to shove_it

    It won’t stop there.

    The next step will be to have the microchip actually alter the DNA instead of just reading it, thus corrupting the Image in which we were made, and permanently separating the recipient from any hope of salvation.

    I do not know, but highly suspect that THIS will be what the actual mark of the beast is.

  • Republicans dismiss impeachment, say it would ‘martyr’ Obama

    11/30/2014 11:49:11 PM PST · 110 of 123
    Safrguns to pepsionice

    >>> Personally, it’d be just as good to remove the State of the Union address and make it a written report instead, thus denying him a chance to stand in front of both the House and Senate, and make a public speech.

    Oh... but that would be racist... and would be treated by the media even more harshly than an attempt to impeach him.

    See... the GOP is simply damned if it does, and damned if it doesn’t... So,

    I say be damned in the process of doing the right thing...

    Get his ass out of office! or be complicit in his lawlessness!

  • Republicans dismiss impeachment, say it would ‘martyr’ Obama

    11/30/2014 9:34:38 PM PST · 72 of 123
    Safrguns to onedoug

    >>> The House holds funding Constitutionally within their power. Backed by the Senate, they could hold him eventually motionless.

    Obama will take us into WW3... congress gonna withhold funding for that too?

  • Republicans dismiss impeachment, say it would ‘martyr’ Obama

    11/30/2014 8:28:17 PM PST · 5 of 123
    Safrguns to PROCON

    Precisely the mentality Obama counts on.

    With this type of thinking Obama can truly do whatever he wants to... and he knows it.

  • Obamacare offers U.S. firms $3,000 incentive to hire illegals over native-born workers

    11/25/2014 9:26:09 PM PST · 16 of 25
    Safrguns to Nachum

    QUIRK?????

    Seriously???

    They lie so much that they know we know they are lying, and they don’t have a problem with it... because we don’t.

  • What is "Sin"? (Vanity)

    11/23/2014 5:55:45 AM PST · 21 of 101
    Safrguns to BwanaNdege

    Sin is ANY opposition to God.

  • Brat: 'Not one thin dime' for Obama's immigration plan

    11/22/2014 9:48:55 PM PST · 9 of 16
    Safrguns to GeronL

    They cannot stop him from NOT enforcing the law unless they remove him from office.

    That was my point.

  • Brat: 'Not one thin dime' for Obama's immigration plan

    11/22/2014 9:38:13 PM PST · 7 of 16
    Safrguns to Tailgunner Joe

    Ummm.... how much does it cost to “NOT” enforce the law?

  • WSJ/NBC Poll Finds Americans Want Parties To Work Together

    11/20/2014 6:53:43 AM PST · 39 of 69
    Safrguns to Laissez-faire capitalist

    >>> Are you saying that one of the 2 major political parties in the US wants the other major one dead?

    Politically speaking, yes.

    From the Liberal Democrat’s perspective, the conservative republican is an enemy... not an equally valid and meaningful perspective on government.

    From the GOP’s perspective as a whole, “getting along” or “peace” is viewed as achievable.

    It is not... because the liberal democrat doesn’t want that, and they see absolutely no value in compromise.

    Instead, they use the republican’s HOPE for compromise against them... and demonize their actions regardless of outcome.

    The GOP will fail until it realizes what it’s dealing with... an opponent party which is directly in line with this nations most dangerous enemies.

  • Paul calls for House resolution and lawsuit against Obama actions

    11/20/2014 6:47:47 AM PST · 14 of 20
    Safrguns to jimbo123

    If Obama blew a man’s head off on the front lawn of the white house, with 500 witnesses... should congress pass a resolution to do something about it?

    Or should someone already in authority to uphold the law arrest him for murder?

  • WSJ/NBC Poll Finds Americans Want Parties To Work Together

    11/20/2014 6:28:44 AM PST · 6 of 69
    Safrguns to Laissez-faire capitalist

    Another poll finds that everyone wants Palestinians and Jews to work together as well.

    Problem is, One of those parties wants the other dead.

    So... Democrats working with Republicans?... aint gonna happen. Democrats want republicans to agree with them or else.

  • "Have you been saved?”

    11/18/2014 7:34:10 PM PST · 165 of 199
    Safrguns to editor-surveyor

    >>> Grace is paying for the sins we committed before we had knowledge of his Way, not for the arrogance of demanding a get-out-of-hell-free card.

    You keep referring to the Gift of God as a “get-out-of-hell-free card”.
    By relating the price paid for our sin to a game card, you diminish the work of Christ in mocking fashion.

    For us the sinner, the gift of salvation IS free... it costs us NOTHING... otherwise it would not be a gift. Would you deny that salvation is a gift? I wonder.
    Regardless, the “get-out-of-hell-free” card as you put it is nothing of the sort... while it costs us nothing, it cost God EVERYTHING! Our salvation is NOT free! It cost Jesus more than anyone will ever know... and for you to cheapen his sacrifice in this way invites God’s wrath.
    One could even argue that such mockery of God’s gift is to speak against the Holy Spirit... because His ministry and sacrifice WAS and IS a work of the Holy Spirit. I am not claiming that you are guilty of the unforgivable sin. I am saying that you are treading on very thin ice.

    Maybe you are not as righteous as you think you are.

  • "Have you been saved?”

    11/18/2014 6:01:46 PM PST · 160 of 199
    Safrguns to Elsie

    >>> This sure sounds like ‘people of faith’ to me!

    Sure it does... if you start at that verse.

    That was my point.

    You have to understand who “THEY” are in context.

    You cannot get that unless you read the previous verses, or better yet as you posted, from the beginning of the chapter.

  • "Have you been saved?”

    11/18/2014 5:42:50 PM PST · 156 of 199
    Safrguns to WVKayaker

    Thanks!... Romans 8 pretty much says it all.

  • "Have you been saved?”

    11/18/2014 5:37:51 PM PST · 155 of 199
    Safrguns to editor-surveyor

    >>> The righteousness of Christ is keeping his commandments, not a get-out-of-hell-free card.... See what John says about knowing him.

    The righteousness of Christ is and WAS the SIN-FREE LIFE that JESUS led on earth, QUALIFYING His blood sacrifice as a worthy payment for the remission of ALL mankind’s sins.

    See the Law of Sin and Death, and Hebrews 9.

  • "Have you been saved?”

    11/18/2014 5:26:16 PM PST · 153 of 199
    Safrguns to editor-surveyor
    >>> You appear to believe that it is impossible to keep Torah, is that so?

    It is possible to keep the Torah, but not to perfection... which IS the standard for holiness.

    Recall the rich man who approached Jesus and asked what he needed to do to gain eternal life:

    Mat 19:16
    And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

    You see, the rich man THOUGHT he was perfect.
    Jesus showed him that he actually was not.
    The rich man was unwilling to part with his possessions.
    The rich man was relying upon his own righteousness.
    Keep reading in that same passage... you will see that
    salvation is a gift of God that cannot be earned with deeds or righteousness.

    >>> Nobody here has said that we are saved by keeping his commandments; we have old sins that have to be forgiven to be saved, but he who keeps on sinning (transgressing Torah) after learning Yeshua's Way will not be saved. Hebrews 6 is no joke, nor is Matthew 7:23, nor Romans 2.

    Actually, you did say it. You said that those who are righteous get the pass. However, in reference to past versus future sins, it does not make sense that Christs sacrifice on the cross would apply to only those sins committed up to the time of conversion, because the believer would then be held to a higher standard than the unbeliever... without the benefit of incorruptibility which we don't receive until the death of our corrupted body. In as far as consequences go which you referenced in Hebrews 6, etc., "death" in scripture does not always refer to eternal damnation. It often refers to physical destruction of the body. If I continue in sin, even after God warns me to stop, He most certainly will end my time on earth even though my place in heaven is secure.
  • "Have you been saved?”

    11/18/2014 4:41:07 PM PST · 150 of 199
    Safrguns to editor-surveyor

    >>> Nothing you have posted to me has any reasonable relationship to what I have posted to you.

    Now you are making sense.

    You go right ahead and choose to stand before God according to your own righteousness.

    I’ll rely upon the righteousness of Christ, and His shed blood for my sins.

    If Jesus and His apostles taught reliance upon the torah for salvation, then the Pharisees would have had no argument with Him whatsoever... and He would not have been brought up on charges of blasphemy and crucified... nor would the apostles and Christians who followed Him been hunted down and killed for their beliefs.

    Do I think John was wrong??? No... but I think the straw-man you made out of him is.

  • NASA Builds A Time-Machine Telescope 100 Times As Powerful As The Hubble

    11/18/2014 4:27:50 PM PST · 34 of 68
    Safrguns to dragnet2

    >>> Unmanned spacecraft and scopes like James Webb have and will takes us way further.

    Oh... so its not an orbital scope like hubble?

    That makes sense.

    Still a big gamble... just one little rock on an intercept course at even the lowest of average space object velocities means game over.

  • "Have you been saved?”

    11/18/2014 4:16:17 PM PST · 148 of 199
    Safrguns to editor-surveyor

    >>> To me this seems simple and clear; he who is righteous gets the “pass.” If we truly know him, he has written his Torah on our heart. If he has written Torah on our heart, we love his Torah, and keep it out of love. If that is not where you are, then you are not in him!

    If you consider yourself righteous under the law, then the truth is not in you.

    You cannot come to truly know Him until you recognize that you are incapable of righteousness under the law, and instead rely upon His sacrifice on the cross which PAID for your unrighteousness.

    When you stand before God, He will judge you according to your righteousness, or He will judge you according to the righteousness of Christ who took on and bore the penalty for your sins in your stead.

    You cannot have it both ways. It’s either Christ’s blood sacrifice that saves you, or your ability to follow the law to perfection... which IS the standard of holiness.

    Christ was perfect FOR us.

    If we recognize that, and believe it, we will naturally respond in love and SEEK to follow in His example, even though we know we will not always succeed.

    Only a prideful man can rest in his own righteousness.

  • NASA Builds A Time-Machine Telescope 100 Times As Powerful As The Hubble

    11/18/2014 3:28:35 PM PST · 23 of 68
    Safrguns to zeestephen

    LOL!... hope nothing goes wrong with it... cause all of our shuttles have been decommissioned... no more American space flights!

    What a waste

  • "Have you been saved?”

    11/18/2014 3:19:28 PM PST · 144 of 199
    Safrguns to Elsie

    >>> Are you trying to make the point that ONLY ‘false teachers’ will be ‘worse off’?

    No... I said that “They” are defined starting in verse 9 and 10, and further described in verses 11-19. Summarily they are referred to in verse 9 as “the unjust”.

    To me, I see the “unjust” described in verses 11-19 as all those who for whatever reason hate all things righteous and lust after everything that is unclean. This would certainly include false teachers, but is not limited to them.

    My point was that taking verse 20 out of context and using it to refer to people of faith is completely out of line with the previous 10 verses.

  • "Have you been saved?”

    11/18/2014 2:53:37 PM PST · 143 of 199
    Safrguns to editor-surveyor
    >>> “ If NOBODY is yet saved, then salvation must come after death.”
    You’re just figuring that out? For all but the final generation, that is the undeniable fact that Yeshua and his apostles were trying to get across.

    Is this the Catholic teaching? or your personal conviction?

    Heb 9:27
    And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

    Romans 3:23
    For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

    Romans 3:10
    As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

    Rom 3:20
    Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

    Jas 2:10
    For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

    Tell me... Who gets a pass?

    Who will NOT be cast in the lake of fire?
  • "Have you been saved?”

    11/18/2014 12:23:07 PM PST · 132 of 199
    Safrguns to editor-surveyor

    >>> We can “know that we will be saved” if we so endure.

    How can one know that they will endure?

    Peter did not believe he would deny Christ 3 times, and yet Jesus knew that he would.

    It is impossible for anyone to know that they will succeed or fail in anything.

    Endurance is a work.

    Salvation is by Grace not by works.

    The sacrificial blood of Christ cannot be mingled with the filthy rags of man’s works.

  • "Have you been saved?”

    11/18/2014 12:17:14 PM PST · 131 of 199
    Safrguns to editor-surveyor

    >>> “OSAS” is nowhere to be found in scripture.

    Neither is the word “Trinity”, but we understand the truth of it.

    Actually, there are many truths that are not specifically spelled out for us in easy-to-read one-liners. Some truths are left for us to seek and find in scripture with the council of the Holy Spirit.

    I’m having a really hard time with your argument, which is why I took so long to respond...

    You say that NOBODY is yet saved, but then claim Jesus was describing how the re-born are enabled to travel invisibly through our PRESENT dwelling place like the wind. This is a self contradicting statement. We become saved during our life on earth, or we do not. If NOBODY is yet saved, then salvation must come after death.

    Jesus said in the passage you referenced that we must be born again to be saved. That is what is clear and relevant... so the question becomes “When are we born-again?” When you say that NOBODY is yet saved because salvation lies in spiritual rebirth, I can only surmise that what you are saying is that we are not reborn until after we die, OR that we cannot know that we are saved until after we die.

    >>> We must “endure to the end,” as Yeshua plainly stated in Matthew 24, and as repeated by all of the apostles numerous times in the various epistles.

    Chuck Missler made the observation that there is more in the bible about end times than any other subject in the bible, including the subject of Jesus’ ministry on earth.

    Such is the case with Matthew 24 in which Jesus is responding to a question about the end of days. We are currently living in the age of Grace. While the Holy Spirit resides here on earth, salvation is promised to those who repent and believe in Jesus. Once the Holy Spirit lifts His hand from the earth, the age of grace ends, and what begins is testing and judgment of the nations. Salvation at that point takes on an additional requirement, namely that believers NOT take the mark of the beast. “Enduring to the end” is a tribulation era reference only. By applying this phrase to the church age, you must also define specifically WHAT is to be endured... because Jesus specifically lays out in Matt 24 what is to be endured DURING THE TRIBULATION in order to be saved.

  • "Have you been saved?”

    11/18/2014 8:33:50 AM PST · 119 of 199
    Safrguns to Elsie

    Your references from Colossians and Hebrews are identical, and speak of “What we believe”... not what we do or fail to do.

    Your reference from 2 Peter however is quite different.
    “They” needs to be defined, and we find that definition by bringing into context the previous verses starting in verse 9:

    2:9 - “The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government.”

    Verses 10-19 further defines “they”, and as you read through it, it becomes very clear to whom God is referring;

    Quite simply, “they” are those who are being preserved for judgment... those who are openly defiant of God and what He stands for. It is their knowledge of the truth that would make it better for them to have not been born to begin with, because their punishment is that much worse than those who simply failed to find the Truth.

    I submit that those who are being defined as “they” are quite different than those who lose or lack faith.

    Furthermore, the premise that “they had previously escaped the corruption of the world” refers to born again Christians is grammatically false when placed in context with the previous verse;

    In verse 19 we see this: “While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. “

    “They” are the deceivers promising liberty to those (them) whom they seek to corrupt... and the following verse 20 which you referenced is a paradoxical argument which illustrates that “they” indeed have NOT escaped the pollutions of the world BECAUSE they are themselves servants of corruption.

  • "Have you been saved?”

    11/18/2014 7:19:18 AM PST · 113 of 199
    Safrguns to Elsie

    >>> The Bible says that loss of FAITH is what does the deed.

    So if you lose your faith you lose salvation?

    Might be news to Peter.

  • "Have you been saved?”

    11/18/2014 6:56:42 AM PST · 110 of 199
    Safrguns to St_Thomas_Aquinas

    >>> All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death.”

    This would suggest that God’s standard is something less than perfection.

    What was Adam’s sin? How does his disobedience in consuming a fruit qualify it as a sin which leads to death?

  • "Have you been saved?”

    11/18/2014 5:08:42 AM PST · 106 of 199
    Safrguns to Elsie

    >>> HOW would this happen?

    According to point 5 of the original post under “what Catholisism teaches”, it would happen in response to the committing of a mortal sin.

    And, since God word states that if you are guilty of one sin, you are guilty of them all, I would submit that we would lose salvation daily if it could be lost.

  • Did Obama Take a Dive?

    11/17/2014 6:33:59 AM PST · 13 of 33
    Safrguns to Kaslin

    I think the midterms was a strategic loss.

    They apparently did not put a full effort into voter fraud as they did before, knowing that the end result of their policies would come to fruition just around the corner.

    They let the GOP win so that 2016 will give them back everything after our economy collapses in 2015.

    All they need now is a trigger event, and it wont matter a hill of beans that the GOP has not had enough time to implement a single reversal.

  • "Have you been saved?”

    11/16/2014 2:12:15 PM PST · 7 of 199
    Safrguns to NYer

    Question then becomes... can you lose your salvation?

    If the answer is yes, then you cannot say you are or have been saved.... because you would lose it daily.

  • Are you a "believer" a "denier" ... or an "agnostic"?

    11/16/2014 1:08:57 PM PST · 19 of 48
    Safrguns to zencycler

    Your post centers around the discussion of religion, and yet you say it has nothing to do with God?

    I find it interesting that you exclude unbelievers (atheists) or at least categorize them as deniers... as if they know, but refuse their belief.

    I also find it interesting that you have an accurate assessment of mankind’s inability or at least his limitations when it comes to altering creation.

    I am curious though why it is important to an agnostic leaning denier what other’s believe or deny and why.

    What does an agnostic believe? What is denied? Is the central reason for unbelief or denial based on a feeling? or on facts?

    What is the purpose of denial? (of anything)
    Does rejection of an idea or concept lead to the discovery of anything? or does it by itself only end in continued ignorance of an answer to the original question?

  • ‘Worship Only Jesus Christ': Woman Ejected From Muslim Prayer Gathering at National Cathedral

    11/15/2014 6:31:44 AM PST · 33 of 259
    Safrguns to nuconvert

    >>> Would she do the same thing if Jews were holding a service there?

    Unlike Muslims, Jews DO worship the same God as Christians.

    The difference is that they fail to recognize Whom He has sent as messiah... Not out of rebellion, but rather out of ignorance and pride. God deals with them during the tribulation. The two cannot be related.

  • Rev. Franklin Graham: Muslim Prayer Service at National Cathedral ‘Sad to See

    11/14/2014 11:03:00 AM PST · 20 of 72
    Safrguns to SeekAndFind

    In another thread on this story, someone suggested that under Muslim doctrine, the building is now technically converted to Islam.

    Any truth to that?

  • Washington National Cathedral To Host Muslim Prayer Service For First Time In American History

    11/14/2014 10:37:50 AM PST · 10 of 38
    Safrguns to SVTCobra03

    >>> Isn’t there a doctrine or belief in Islam that once a prayer service is held in a building, that building belongs to Islam?

    I would like to know the answer to that one!

  • Washington National Cathedral To Host Muslim Prayer Service For First Time In American History

    11/14/2014 10:31:11 AM PST · 1 of 38
    Safrguns
    When Obama said "We are no longer a Christian nation", maybe he knew something we didn't.
  • Giving up: 40% women, 28% men, 39% youth don't want a job

    11/14/2014 7:32:48 AM PST · 8 of 57
    Safrguns to george76

    2Th 3:10

    For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

  • Can someone explain, in plain English, what 'NET NEUTRALITY' means?

    11/13/2014 6:05:33 AM PST · 2 of 94
    Safrguns to maineman

    It’s like “Affordable” care act.

  • Earthquake in Kansas and Oklahoma

    11/12/2014 2:45:26 PM PST · 55 of 67
    Safrguns to Crazieman

    I’m in Ponca City (north central OK) and I felt that one!
    It was a 4.8 in southern Kansas less than an hour ago.

    Last one we felt here in PC was that 5+ in OKC over a year or 2 ago.

  • Merry Christmas: UN Declares Arms Trade Treaty to Go Into Effect Dec. 24

    11/09/2014 6:39:57 AM PST · 3 of 30
    Safrguns to VitacoreVision

    Cool... maybe they can start their enforcement efforts with ISIS.

  • Who's awake at this hour?

    11/09/2014 1:47:09 AM PST · 2 of 106
    Safrguns to MNDude

    I went to bed too early because I was exhausted from work.

  • Someone Has Been Running This Mysterious Classified Ad For 10 Straight Years Now

    11/06/2014 9:45:53 PM PST · 8 of 32
    Safrguns to TBP

    It’s a sleeper cell activation node.

  • New York Dems Threaten Their Own: ‘We’re Watching You ... Whether or not you vote is public record'

    11/02/2014 9:18:02 AM PST · 13 of 31
    Safrguns to SeekAndFind

    Wow... just Wow!....

    If I were a liberal democrat, this letter would highly motivate me to vote republican.

    It’s funny how the liberal establishment breeds rebellion, and yet assumes it’s own ranks will exhibit loyalty in the face of blatant intimidation!

  • DRUDGE HEADLINE ONLY: "EARLY VOTING: REPUBLICANS HAVE 10% LEAD"

    10/31/2014 9:40:47 AM PDT · 2 of 143
    Safrguns to GOPinCa

    Republicans always start out with the lead.

    Democrats always finish ahead, because they are the ones counting the votes.