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Posts by robowombat

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  • Hong Kong moves to clear unruly protest site

    11/25/2014 3:50:39 PM PST · 1 of 3
    robowombat
    The lamestreams have almost tottaly ignored this weeks long drama, The print media marginalize the stories by putting them on the back pages of the international news sections and the electronic media simply ignore the story. Why? These are bigger and more sustained than the Tien Mien Square protests and the protestors display organization and discipline and courage and a very good grasp of a free government versus a disguised dictatorship. Could it be that the image of citizens using the weapon of organized civil disobedience against a despotic regime and the difficulty such a regime has in dealing with these sorts of protests versus the racist mobs of the Fergusson idiots is not something the press and the regime want ordinary law abiding Americans to see at this point in time?
  • Remarks by the President on the Resignation of Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel

    11/25/2014 3:41:53 PM PST · 1 of 4
    robowombat
    The official words of the Mahdi.
  • Oprah’s network releases sneak peek of ‘The Rob Bell Show’

    11/25/2014 12:01:45 PM PST · 22 of 30
    robowombat to Sans-Culotte; All
    ‘Bell's a theologian in mold of such greats as John Shelby Spong. ‘

    Bishop Spong, now there is a pos I haven't heard mentioned in a long while. A man who as Bishop of Virginia did everything he could to show his disdain and contempt for Virginia, Virginians and their history. He specifically forbade the use of the church in Richmond that Jefferson Davis and lee worshiped at for the memorial service for the dead for Confederate Memorial Day saying (paraphrase but accurate) ‘As long as he was bishop nothing involving the CSA or its soldiers would be allowed to pollute St Paul's Church’. I understand Spong later denied most of the articles of the faith including the Virgin Birth and the actual and real Resurrection of Our Lord. If Bell is Spong come again then he is both an apostate and a fraud.

  • EPA: Coal Plants Should Spend $2B To Cut Emissions

    11/25/2014 10:27:49 AM PST · 17 of 24
    robowombat to bray; All
    Level the EPA

    Yep. I have dealt with them they and the FBI are the two most obnoxiously egocentric outfits I encountered in working for the Army for some 20 years. The difference is the FBI worships itself and shows up with its lawyers to tell you why (a) they can't do anything and (b) why the Army can't either. The EPA just tells everyone how their regulations are ‘legislative’ and have the weight of law and can't be changed or modified even for a national crisis. EPA employees really think they are engaged in ‘saving the planet’ from evil greedy capitalists and piggish stupid Americans. I know one of their civil investigators who is most proud of saving America from the horror of vermiculite. Billions spent on remediation and fines since that product used some asbestos by product as a stabilizer. There is even a book written about this veritable world saving battle against the wicked Grace Corp.

  • EPA: Coal Plants Should Spend $2B To Cut Emissions

    11/25/2014 10:19:43 AM PST · 10 of 24
    robowombat to stephenjohnbanker; All
    Another of Richard Nixon’s BIG government disasters.

    Yep. RN’s pick to be the first EPA director Ruckelshouse, a squish Rino congresscritter from Indiana, spent the next thirty years drifting leftward and in 2008 was featured in Seattle fishwrapers endorsing the Mahdi saying BHO was such a great man it brought tears to his eyes to think he had lived long enough to see someone of ‘color’ who would stop the seas from rising to be running for the Presidency.

  • EPA: Coal Plants Should Spend $2B To Cut Emissions

    11/25/2014 10:06:49 AM PST · 1 of 24
    robowombat
    This article makes it appear the EPA is targeting Texas. In the wake of the Mahdi's recent ukase that directed American industry to spend multi-billions to reduce emission while handing China a pass to pollute all it wants the disparate impacts on the two economies this agreement would cause shows what the Mahdi thinks of Americans; they should suffer for the sin of succeeding. That is the real mantra of the left.
  • National Day of Reckoning! [Impeach Obama]

    11/23/2014 3:34:00 PM PST · 215 of 218
    robowombat to IMR 4350; All
    ‘Obama try to order federal troops against the Militia and you can pretty much guarantee the fed troops will help snatch his goat smelling butt out of the WH.’

    I wish I could share your confidence.Politically correct thinking has been implanting itself in the armed forces since the Carter administration. The large number of women now in the forces means most of these females view the government as husband or father. Unwed mothers in the services are quite common. Many females in uniform have ‘advanced’ feminist attitudes and are inherently hostile to the ‘white male paradigm’. The fantastic figures of purported ‘sexual attacks’ in the services derives from such attitudes.Wolf whistles or even inappropriate behavior such as fanny pinching which could be dealt with by either a smart slap or a sharp bit of female anger are instead elevated to the level of violent rape. At the same time blacks in uniform and many Latinos are relentlessly liberal leftist in their attitudes. Blacks have been effectively brainwashed by their so called leaders into believing white people are the root of all their troubles. The Mahdi is the idol of most black enlisted persons and they are happy to get in your face and proclaim it.
    The lifting of the ban on being openly queer in the service is the latest move to turn the armed forces into powerfully equipped coercive forces staffed by careerists and those with a deep seated dislike that borders on hatred for normal straight white Americans and traditional American culture. White Southerners are routinely made aware through ‘training’ that they are uniquely guilty and need to expiate the guilt that their ancestors participation in the Civil War by becoming good little multiculturalists and let go of the ‘Myth of the Lost cause’. The US as a flawed society that needs to become a ‘better’ place is the undertext in much of the ‘Negro History Month’, Martin Luther King Day and even programs about WW2 that solders get to compulsorily attend. I spent 37 years in and working for the military and those who think it is a bastion of traditional patriotic values and masculine attitudes are, I believe, sadly mistaken. In a crisis many individual servicemen will choose the right side by voting with their feet. The military as institutions will happily obey the voice of their master and turn their guns and bombs on ‘racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic and misogynistic’ Americans.

  • National Day of Reckoning! [Impeach Obama]

    11/23/2014 3:06:24 PM PST · 214 of 218
    robowombat to austinaero; All
    ‘Everyone needs to join militias in their state. Those people came to the Bundy’s rescue in Nevada...and they also were at the Southern border in Texas.’

    Where does one find out about such organizations. I am in Louisiana and other than sporting events and NAACP rallies in Baton Rouge where the participants get a free lunch group activities are minimal. The state Rifle and Pistol association is about as dead a group as one can imagine. The local culture is oriented to family more than anything ,large family groupings are common. Gun control is a complete non starter here and complacency is pretty common. The local attitude was summed up by a former governor Mike Foster , a Rep, that Louisiana doesn't need anything from anywhere else.

  • HOUSE REPUBLICANS PLACE OBAMA ON OFFICIAL NOTICE

    11/20/2014 5:48:07 PM PST · 1 of 134
    robowombat
    We will see....
  • 'The Imitation Game' puts the spotlight on Alan Turing and his groundbreaking machine

    11/20/2014 4:30:51 PM PST · 16 of 46
    robowombat to dfwgator; All
    ‘Any mention of the Polish Cryptographers that made the cracking of the Enigma Code possible?’

    Silly man, don't you know the contributions of Free Poland to Allied victory in the Second World War has been sent down the memory hole. Britain and France declared war on Germany ostensibly over German aggression on Poland. Nazi Germany's partner in aggression, the Soviet Union snapped up about half of Poland and then the US and the UK came to love Stalin and the USSR after Hitler sucker punched Stalin before he could be ready to execute a surprise attack on the Reich and forced Stalin to be an ally of ‘democracy’ in the good war . The Polish contribution to the cracking of the Enigma coding system is as ignored is the role of the Polish Air Force emigres who somehow made it to the UK and by the end of 1940 constituted (I believe I am right in this number. Those better informed please correct or affirm.) about 1/5 of the RAF Fighter Command squadrons. While there is a book every year or so and there have been several, generally bad or silly, films about the US staffed Eagle Squadrons, there is only one through treatment of the Poles in the Battle of Britain, ‘An Affair of Honor’. It is excellent but only appeared in the last decade. The combat record of the large Polish ground forces in campaigns in the Mediterranean and Western Europe have been relegated to even greater obscurity. Try and find a detailed operational narrative of the services of the Polish exile infantry or airborne forces let alone about the Polish Armored Division. This curtain of oblivion has been deliberately created since after starting the world war in defense of Polish territorial integrity Churchill and FDR were more than happy to sell out first the territorial borders of Poland at Yalta and then basically washed their hands of any responsibility for protecting the freedom and liberties of their brave and loyal allies against Soviet imposed slavery. Indeed both FDR and Churchill made it clear they found the non-communist Polish government to be tiresome pests always demanding they be treated as a loyal ally and not a disposal item to try and appease Stalin with. The blackout on the role of Poland and its forces in the war still continues mostly through successful inertia as the narrative of what happened in 1939-45 has been set pretty much in stone by two generations of establishment politicians and their court historians

  • 'Saudi prince paid for 9/11 pilots to learn to fly'

    11/16/2014 8:25:51 PM PST · 12 of 38
    robowombat to qaz123
    They apparently dealt with the aid the Ben Turki family extended to the 9-11 perpetrators after they arrived in the US. The BT clan is right at the top of the Saudi hierarchy. One was SA Ambassador to the US at the time of 9-11. They also are well plugged in to the influential group of Houston fixers and wheeler dealers such as Jim baker that largely created George W Bush as a political presence.
  • Pakistan: Islamist Mob Kills Christian Couple Accused of Blasphemy

    11/14/2014 3:58:46 PM PST · 1 of 10
    robowombat
    More details on this event.
  • Pacific Fleet intelligence officer removed following investigation

    11/13/2014 2:33:36 PM PST · 1 of 19
    robowombat
    Clinton?Gore effectively sold the most sensitive data on the Polaris system and space launched nuclear weapons to the PRC in return for both personal gain and payola for the Dem party. The Mahdi continues this treacherous tradition by making a high visibility example of any professional officer who dares speak the truth about Chinese capabilities and ambitions.The PRC has corrupted both the political class (not hard), academia (already being done years ago by agents of influence such as John Fairbank) and finally the military. A past Navy CINCPAC CO is virtually a one man propaganda agency for the disinformation and denial propaganda Peking churns out.
  • Backlash Brews Over ‘Anti-Military Anthem’ Performed on National Mall During Veterans Concert

    11/12/2014 6:48:37 PM PST · 1 of 29
    robowombat
    "Fortunate Son' propagates a half truth into an evil meme. The elites are today mostly absent from the armed forces but military personnel are not a lot of ignorant dirt poor cannon fodder as this tune makes it appear.

    Springsteen at a Vets Day concert is an insult no matter what he performed. He was a draft dodger and has never done anything for USO or ever performed overseas for the US military.

  • Ukraine crisis: Russian troops crossed border, Nato says

    11/12/2014 6:35:42 PM PST · 1 of 14
    robowombat
  • Barbarism 2014: On Religious Cleansing by Islamists

    11/12/2014 6:29:57 PM PST · 1 of 9
    robowombat
  • Gun Shop Owner to Vets: 'You NEVER FOUGHT FOR ANY OF MY FREEDOMS!!!!!'

    11/12/2014 6:18:07 PM PST · 58 of 81
    robowombat to servo1969; All
    This fellow seems to be a devoted follower of Lew Rockwell and a number of the people who appear on his site. Libtards hate all gubbmints only they hate the US gubbmint most. They consider members of the armed forces to be the hirelings and mercenaries of the global financial elite and its political class spear carriers.
    These people are about as rational as the Code Pink true believers and indeed share some common beliefs and attitudes.
  • Let primary teachers wear the veil in the classroom, says former Archbishop of Canterbury (UK)

    11/10/2014 9:07:38 PM PST · 17 of 33
    robowombat to Olog-hai

    Rowan Williams arch culture traitor.

  • WI School Cancels Vet’s Day Ceremony. Worried About 21 Gun Salute.

    11/10/2014 9:06:07 PM PST · 10 of 34
    robowombat to Thunder90; All
    I remember one young female product of Harvard/Bryn Mar wincing at what then was called ‘Patriot's Day’ (April 19, the Day of Lexington and Concord) celebrations and reenactments because of all the ‘emphasis on war, and fighting and bloodshed’ which she thought was ‘totally inappropriate’ for ‘Massachusetts today’. Looks like the same mindset at work in the Badger State. Political Correctness will kill us literally not figuratively if it is not contained and beaten.
  • Israeli Soldier Dies After Tel Aviv Terror Attack; Twin Brother Tells Gov’t ‘Wake Up!’

    11/10/2014 3:52:27 PM PST · 1 of 10
    robowombat
  • Bronze Bell from Long-Lost Arctic Shipwreck Revealed

    11/10/2014 3:27:42 PM PST · 1 of 14
    robowombat
  • Iran has flown its version of the captured U.S. stealthy RQ-170 drone

    11/10/2014 1:32:29 PM PST · 1 of 33
    robowombat
  • Woman arrested after filming herself defecating on Israeli flag

    11/10/2014 1:27:22 PM PST · 1 of 56
    robowombat
    'In another act, she calls the Holocaust "the best thing that ever happened" to the Jewish people.'

    MS. Vaxberg would have loved being a Jew in Poland in 1942 (sarc).

  • Obama, the false prophet

    11/10/2014 1:20:07 PM PST · 1 of 14
    robowombat
  • Jerusalem Terror, Rioting Part of Bigger Plot

    11/10/2014 1:15:37 PM PST · 1 of 8
    robowombat
  • Suicide Bomber Kills 48 at Nigerian School

    11/10/2014 1:12:31 PM PST · 1 of 10
    robowombat
    ROP Alert
  • Dr. Myles Munroe, Wife Killed in Plane Crash

    11/10/2014 1:09:13 PM PST · 1 of 8
    robowombat
    This the Learjet crash in the Bahamas of a flight to Nassau.
  • Russian spyplane violates Lithuania airspace, Canadian Hornets intercept it

    11/09/2014 12:34:32 PM PST · 1 of 14
    robowombat
  • Pakistani man is hacked to death for alleged blasphemy against Islam

    11/08/2014 4:05:35 PM PST · 1 of 13
    robowombat
  • Ancient and Modern Europeans Have Surprising Genetic Connection

    11/08/2014 4:01:30 PM PST · 1 of 25
    robowombat
  • The Gun Grabber’s Behind Washington State’s I-594 Reveal Their True Agenda And Your State Is Next !

    11/08/2014 3:55:14 PM PST · 46 of 53
    robowombat to spirited irish; All
    ’ J. C. Calhoun was reading in the best London journals that different breeds of animals and plants produce inferior or superior results, slave owners were citing the Negroes’ deficiencies to argue that they should remain slaves indefinitely. ‘

    JCC didn't have to bother to read anything about black capacity and intelligence. All he had to do was observe his field hands. Live in the Deep South for a few years and most whitey’s from elsewhere begin to have serious doubts about the ‘created equal’ business. The latest one of these I encountered was a chemical engineer from Illinois who asked with a straight face “are these people really (blackamoors) as stupid and vicious as they appear ?” This fellow was quite black but had never spent any time in Dixie until his company moved him here.

  • Europe’s Jews: Unwanted, Dead or Alive

    07/14/2014 5:56:19 PM PDT · 1 of 10
    robowombat
    The only good news is that while Europeans dislike the Jews most really detest or even hate the Muslims and i think their patience is wearing thin. The Muslims might check out the history of Germany from 1933 to 1938 to get some flavor for what happens when Europeans get really annoyed at some group and a chrasmatic leader appears on the scene. The Jews, ironically I suppose, would be the one group to loudly protest discriminatory laws and finally campaigns of expulsion and ethnic cleansing of the Mo's.
  • Inner City Blacks Ask Obama: Where's Our Asylum?

    07/14/2014 5:41:55 PM PDT · 15 of 39
    robowombat to raptor22
    Inner City Blacks Ask Obama: Where's Our Asylum?

    They can pick it up at the social services office right along with their most recent delivery of their entitle. Just like their dim wit ancestors who during Reconstruction era elections in the South turned out with tubs, buckets, and boxes to take ‘a mess of ballots’ home for supper.

  • 'Mayonnaise' Gets Restaurant Worker Slap

    07/14/2014 5:38:10 PM PDT · 7 of 21
    robowombat to nickcarraway
    Interesting. While I don't like Arabs I understand where this fellow is coming from. It took the mopes at the local Wendy's three times to figure out that ‘no cheese’ meant I didn't want their plastic pseudo-cheese on my burger. Each time I purchase carry out I carefully check the order. Invariably there is something incorrect or incomplete or just plain wrong. Duking the dim lazy clod behind the counter would provide some momentary pleasure. Unfortunately unlike this Arab everyone is equal here except those who are more equal than others and many of them shamble about fast food (and some non-fast food) restaurants. I am so happy they will soon be making $13 an hour. The value they add is incalculable.
  • When you applied for Social Security benefits, how long did it take to hear back from them?

    07/14/2014 3:50:00 PM PDT · 12 of 47
    robowombat to ilovesarah2012

    This is unusual. SSA is pretty efficient. I would recommend you visit your local SSA office.

  • Abe: Japan's collective defense is limited

    07/14/2014 3:48:22 PM PDT · 1 of 3
    robowombat
  • Egypt proposes Israel-Gaza ceasefire for Tuesday morning

    07/14/2014 3:41:44 PM PDT · 1 of 2
    robowombat
    Hamas' call for a cease fire is not because they suddenly feel guilty about firing rockets randomly into Israel's population centers. Rather, they realize that the IDF is inflicting damage on their infrastructure, command and control centers, personnel, and supply of weapons far disproportionate to any damage caused by their rockets, which are mostly intercepted by the Iron Dome. Israel would be wise to delay the cease fire until a durable cease fire which lasts many years, not months, is finally guaranteed.
  • Hezbollah Suffers casualties in fight to root out rebels

    07/14/2014 3:33:22 PM PDT · 1 of 6
    robowombat
    Good news any way you cut it.
  • Deadly war on Gaza continues despite calls for truce

    07/14/2014 3:27:25 PM PDT · 1 of 7
    robowombat
  • Thousands Flee Gaza After Israel Warns Of Possible Escalation, Death Toll Crosses 170

    07/14/2014 3:22:52 PM PDT · 1 of 6
    robowombat
    Boohoo, the bad Joos are being mean to the peaceful Paliwogs

    Here is one comment on the Gaza scuttle:

    It is interesting to note that while the media is reporting that Palestinians are fleeing Northern Gaza in response to leaflets from Israel warning them about the impending air strikes, e.g., "More than 17,000 people have reportedly fled the northern parts of Gaza since Sunday following Israel’s announcement of an escalation in attacks." What is not being reported in the international press is that Hamas is doing everything to prevent these people from fleeing and remain human shields for Hamas.

  • Ex-captive Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl could return to active duty Monday

    07/14/2014 5:56:19 AM PDT · 24 of 60
    robowombat to xzins

    My guess is that he will be processed for discharge the day after he returns to active duty. With accumulated leave he will probably never actually return to active duty. If his ‘capture’ is considered valid service time then he will get a very large payout from the Army for accumulated pay and leave.

  • Netanyahu finally speaks his mind

    07/13/2014 8:30:42 PM PDT · 17 of 22
    robowombat to Hot Tabasco; All
    Just who in the Israeli government would you prefer as a replacement for Netanyahu?

    Kindly read the the beginning of the comment. I specifically state that the text is from an Israeli remarking on BB’s remarks, not me. I only note that many rightist Israelis (and I think this is the third time I have reiterated the context) have as hostile feelings about Netanyahu as many here have towards Gov. Perry for what they see as the same reasons’ i.e. all hat and no cattle. I am not endorsing the comment . it is provided to give readers some more background. The anger patriotically inclined people in many western democracies feel towards their leaders mirrors what we in the United States feel. Of these leaders, IMHO, Netanyahu seems to be several heads taller, certainly he towers over the Mahdi and that porcine little twerp Hollonde.

  • 'Yellow Fever' Fetish: Why Do So Many White Men Want To Date A Chinese Woman?

    07/13/2014 4:10:50 PM PDT · 19 of 182
    robowombat to 2ndDivisionVet; All

    My Vietnamese pseudo wife was much easier to live with and the relationship much calmer than any I have had with a white American female, including my wife.

  • Netanyahu finally speaks his mind

    07/13/2014 4:04:49 PM PDT · 12 of 22
    robowombat to detch; All
    pointed your criticism

    This is not my criticism. It is a comment from an Israeli.I think that is clear, or I hope it is, from the introduction lines that are mine. It is not a denunciation to state that many rightist Israelis do view BB as many here view the current Governor of Texas, Mr. Perry.

  • Islamic State routs Iraqi armored column in Anbar

    07/13/2014 3:26:55 PM PDT · 12 of 35
    robowombat to ImJustAnotherOkie

    ‘There is either a huge people problem ‘

    There is a huge problem. The ISIS people really believe in the their vile convictions. This is a young man’s revolt and the ISIS fighters are happy to die for their cause but, and this is the big but, would rather their hated opponents are made to die instead. In Iraq ISIS forces numbering in the hundreds defeat or route government or government supporter forces numbering in the thousands. ISIS seems to me to have an even money chance of taking Baghdad.

  • Friends and family remember Isiah Haggins Jr. (16-year old killed while robbing store)

    07/13/2014 3:22:07 PM PDT · 11 of 157
    robowombat to Drew68; All
    ‘“He was a young child that made a bad decision that cost him his life, But he was only 16. I’m pretty sure we’ve all done something that could cost us our lives at the age of 16. He was not a bad kid. He was just a child trying to be a teenage,” said Haggins’ mother Candace Talbott.’

    This in a nutshell, which is where it belongs, is the Blackamoor mentality summed up. It's not our fault if there are bad consequences to our actions. Thugging don't mean nothing. Just YMB’s (young black men) being boys. The entire culture of non-responsibility is summed up in these stupid banalities.

  • Netanyahu finally speaks his mind

    07/13/2014 2:17:28 PM PDT · 1 of 22
    robowombat
    Interesting and worth reading. It should be borne in mind many rightist israelis view B. Netanyahu as many here do Gov. Perry, all hat and no cattle. Here is a typical comment:

    BB is a joke. A Liar and a weak coward. He always talks the talk but never walks the walk.

    Notice not one word about Jewish rights to Y&S and Gaza!!!

    Not one word that even if Abbas were a Zionist TZADDIK (Saint) he is over 80 years old with a bad ticker. Any successor would have even less influence than he does and he has next to Zero among the Palis Arabs.

    From BB not a word. BB said he was against the Gaza pullout. He is a liar he was for it till it became clear that it was a done deal and cynically quit the government to prepare for the coming elections.

    It was BB he caved to Obama in 2012 and quit the last Gaza confrontation with Israel with Hamas getting the better deal against Israel through Morsi and Obama interference.

    It is BB who has allowed Hamas to arm itself with 10,000 plus rockets To build miles of interconnecting underground tunnels from Gaza into Israel for infiltrating terrorists and for kidnapping Israelis and soldiers.

    Israel under BB allowed them. Israel under BB supplied them with the metal tubing and pipes used to build the rockets, the fuel and the raw material for explosives. Israel supplied the Arabs with cement and Re-bar for the tunnels and electricity and water to operate their underground factories in secure bunkers.

    It was BB who when the IDF attacked Israel responded by shooting at empty lots and buildings at hours they knew no one would be injured.

    In short this situation can be laid almost completely to BB the liar and coward. The sooner he is removed from public office and replaced by almost any one else, the safer we will all be.

    Unlike anyone new BB has a record of near zero accomplishments.

    I stand by everything I have said which is only the tip of the iceberg of my criticism and disdain for the creep.

  • Islamic State routs Iraqi armored column in Anbar

    07/13/2014 2:10:02 PM PDT · 1 of 35
    robowombat
    Lots of interesting photos at the original site.

    One commentator had this to say:

    Yet another act of mind-boggling incompetence from Baghdad and its military. M1A1 should be more than capable of dealing with ISIS, but of course we all know this was another in a long, long list of ill thought out strategies and plans by the leaders of the Iraqi regime.

    You really can't blame anyone in our government for not wanting to support these clowns running Iraq. They are ridiculously bad at what they do. The Kurds are now claiming they warned Maliki about an ISIS advance on Mosul 5 days beforehand. Maliki ignored the warning and demanded the Kurds stay out of Mosul. When ISIS did come, Maliki changed his mind and ordered the Kurds in.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/11/kurds-isis-frontier-destiny-beckons

    There isn't any hope of reason or logic entering into this with Maliki in charge. Supporting Maliki is supporting the guaranteed fragmentation and all out civil war in Iraq, which is exactly what every Western government does not want to happen.

    And finally, I feel sorry for those 4,000 militia being flown into Ramadi because the road there is too dangerous. Judging by the previous performance of Baghdad's forces, that just doesn't sound good.

  • The U. S. Doesn’t Need Any More Of The World’s Tired, Poor, Or Huddled Masses

    07/13/2014 12:16:33 PM PDT · 10 of 16
    robowombat to crusty old prospector; All

    Here is some good coverage of the engagement with the Dreamers in 1918:

    Buffalo Soldiers at Huachuca:
    The Battle of Ambos Nogales

    chuca Illustrat

    “Ambos Nogales,” between 1918 and 1920. Photo courtesy Markel album.

    At Huachuca in 1918, the men of the 10th Cavalry had time to reflect on the events in Europe and waited anxiously to learn if they were to get in on the fighting. But they were required on the border, a place at that time that was thought to be subject to attack from Mexicans instigated by German agents. The threat from south of the border appeared to be real and intelligence reports on German activities there were received in number. In his history of the 10th Cavalry, Edward Glass recalls the importance attached to these reports.

    About August 15, 1918, the Intelligence Division reported the presence of strange Mexicans, plentifully supplied with arms, ammunition, food and clothing, gathering In increasing numbers in and about Nogales, Sonora; also the presence of several strange white men,, apparently Germans, at times engaged in addressing gatherings of Mexicans explaining military terms, movements and methods. At about this time an anonymous letter was received, written by a person who claimed to have been a major In Villa’s forces who was sickened and disgusted at the atrocities committed by Villa and his men, and at the lack of pay or reward, and who claimed a feeling of friendly respect for American troops, warning them of the German influences at work near and in Nogales, advising of the financial activities of. the German agents, and of a contemplated attack on Nogales about August 25, 1918. This letter rang so true that it became a subject of investigation by Lt. Col. Frederick J. Herman, 10th Cavalry, then acting subdistrict commander at Nogales, and Lieutenant Robert Scott Israel, Infantry Intelligence Officer at Nogales, and so many points of the letter were verified that it was given more than ordinary weight (12)

    Captain Roy V. Morledge, 10th Cavalry. Photo courtesy Lt. Col. John H. Healy, U.S. Army retired.

    A shooting incident on 27 August 1918 led to a full-scale shootout when Lt. Col Frederick J. Herman, 10th Cavalry commander at Nogales, rushed reinforcements to the international line. Three troops of the 10th Cavalry and three companies of the 35th Infantry took up position along the American side and returned sniper fire of Mexican troops. It would be known as the “Battle of Ambos Nogales” (Both Nogales).

    A complete account of the Battle of Ambos Nogales was prepared by Col. H. B. Wharfield in his book Tenth Cavalry Border Fights.

    Nogales, Sonora of 1918 was under control of a Mexican federal garrison. The local situation was complicated by agitation aroused through German agents and an accompanying rising dislike for us -— the Gringos. On the American side the people were on the alert, Most of the householders had a Winchester or other weapon in a convenient location.

    During the latter part of August 1918 the Thirty-fifth Infantry at Camp Stephen D. Little was completing its movement to an eastern staging area for overseas war duty. Only Companies G, F, and H remained, awaiting relief by the Twenty-fifth Infantry (Negro). The cavalry camp had Troop A (tenth U.S. Cavalry) Captain Roy V. Morledge, Troop C under Captain Joseph D. Hungerford, and Troop F with Captain Henry C. Caron. Troop M of Captain John Lee and First Lieutenant Herbert W. Farrand were at Arivaca, and Lochiel was occupied by Troop B commanded by Captain Edgar R. Garlick with Lieutenant Shuman.

    Manning the international guard station In Nogales were details from the Thirty-fifth Infantry. And patrolling east and west along the border were cavalry detachments. Lieutenant Colonel Frederick J. Herman, Tenth Cavalry, was with the cavalry troops and also acting Nogales subdistrict commander.

    Military intelligence developed information that the Nogales situation was becoming critical. The Mexican garrison were, digging some trenches in the hills overlooking the American side. Groups of mounted Mexicans, some in uniforms, were seen moving along the trails into town, and the Sonora border guards at the crossing gate had adapted a changed and officious attitude. Such an explosive condition seemingly only awaited an incident for ignition,

    At 4:10 PM. on August 27, 1918, a Mexican coming from the American side tried to walk through the guarded international gate without interrogation. When the U.S. Customs inspector (Arthur G. Barber) ordered “ Halt! “ the man kept moving toward the other side. Then the government official drew his revolver and went after the person. Private W. H. Klint of Company H, Thirty-fifth Infantry, followed for protection. A Mexican custom guard fired at the American official, missed him but killed Private Klint. Instantly Corporal William H. Tucker of Company H shot the Mexican officer. More Mexican guards came running and started shooting. The corporal opened fire with his Springfield and killed three more. The U.S. Inspector gunned one down. A civilian at the gate (Mr. Frank Eames of the Nogales Theater) phoned to the Thirty-fifth guard detail at the West Coast Company warehouse about the emergency. Another (Mr. Otto Mayer) cranked up his truck and sped to the place, returning with Lieutenant Fanning (Fannin) and the soldiers. They arrived amidst a fusillade of lead from the Mexican side. That was the beginning of the Battle of Nogales.

    Capt. Roy V. Morledge of Troop A, 10th Cavalry, was in Nogales ,vhen the shooting started. He wrote:

    I happened to be downtown near the depot when I heard some rifle shots, and then more. I saw them carrying a wounded soldier at the international street.

    Motor transportation was scarce in those days, but I had a good horse, I sped over the hills a couple of miles to camp. On the way I passed Lieutenant Colonel Herman in a car. He had already gotten some news and told me to go on, get my troop out and notify Troop C and Troop F

    Colonel Herman soon arrived and led the troops for the town at the gallop. I was sent down Morely Avenue. The place was a double street along the railroad tracks. At the little park the troop was dismounted, and one trooper detailed to hold each group of eight horses. Those left behind pleaded with me to go along.

    Dismounted, I told the men to follow me. Not far along before we got a lot of fire. There was so much it was hard to tell where it was coming from. Also it seemed as though everybody in Nogales was shooting from the windows toward the border.

    First Sergeant Thomas Jordan, F Troop, 10th Cavalry. At the time this picture was taken at the Nogales pistol range in April 1919, Jordan had over 20 years with the troop. Photo courtesy Col. H.B. Wharfield, U.S. Army Flet., who in 1918 was a first lieutenant with the 10th Cavalry.

    Reaching the line in spite of the fire, we dashed into a big building on the Mexican side without resistance, but bullets from up on a hillside were hitting the place. We ran forward into another connecting building. It was the Concordia Club. In there were some frightened senoritas wearing kimonas. I got a laugh when one of them spoke to a trooper, saying, ‘Sergeant Jackson! Are we all glad to see you!” But we did not have time to tarry for the soldier to alibi his acquaintanceship.

    Colonel Herman ordered us to the top of the hill. Up we went in waves of a squad at a time, firing at Mexicans off to one side. We took a position near some old buildings and a barricade. Down below were the Mexican depot and buildings. From there they were firing toward the American town, and some probably just hiding. They also started replying to our action.

    I hope we only hit those who were shooting. But there were a lot of bodies lying around. All of a sudden some one saw a long pole with a sheet tied on being waved from the top of the Mexican customs house down below.

    I ordered the men to cease fire. It was then 7:45 P.M., and getting dark. Where the time passed I do not know. We had five men wounded, and the others wanted to clean out the town. However First Sergeant LaMar and I quickly controlled our skirmish line of troopers.

    Finally orders came to move back across the border and bivouac in the park near the depot. There I saw Captain Caron with a bandaged wrist. Also the news came that Captain Hungerford of Troop C and Lieutenant L. W. Loftus of Company G, Thirty-fifth Infantry, had been killed as well as several soldiers.(13)

    Capt. Henry C. Caron and Troop F, upon arriving downtown, crossed over to Terrace Avenue on the right of Troop A. Lieutenant Colonel Herman assigned the troop to move forward and occupy Titcomb Hill. Years afterwards Captain Caron wrote:

    We left our horses at a lumber yard in the vicinity of the Bowman Hotel, and proceeded on foot up Terrace Avenue to our positions as designated. The Mexicans were on the flat house tops and the hills giving us a heavy fire, and we returned it.

    I was behind a telephone pole with First Sergeant Thomas Jordan and got hit in the right arm below the elbow. Sergeant Jordan picked me up and carried me back out of the range of the fire. He then took command of the troop until I returned from the doctor’s office. I had no lieutenants with me at the time.

    (First Sergeant Thomas Jordan was given a commendation by Lieutenant Colonel Herman for taking command of Troop F during the absence of his commander.)

    Captain Joseph D. Hungerford and Troop C were assigned the left sector and moved forward toward the Reservoir Hill for control of the heights overlooking the town. The troop advanced to the position, then crossed the border, clearing the Mexicans out of their entrenchments on the heights. During this forward dash Captain Hungerford was shot through the heart and instantly killed. First Sergeant James T. Penny then took command of Troop C. Subsequently he received a special commendation for his initiative and the handling of the troopers.


    Four unidentified members of the 35th Infantry Regiment ————————Camp of the 35th Infantry Regiment
    at Nogales, Arizona in 1917. Photo courtesy John A. Carr, ——————————at Camp Stephen D. Little, one mile
    a veteran of the Machine Gun Company, 35th Infantry,————————————north-of Nogales, Arizona, in 1917.
    -—————— at Nogales.-——————————————————————————————————Photo courtesy John A. Carr, MG Co, 35th Infantry.

    Meanwhile Major Herbert E, Marshburn, Thirty-fifth Infantry, arrived in town from Camp Little with contingents of Companies F, G, and H coming along in quartermaster trucks. Company H was held in reserve and moved to the rallroad depot near the border.

    Company G was assigned to support Troop F, Tenth Cavalry, moving on Titcomb Hill. Near the line the doughboys became heavily engaged. A bullet killed Lieutenant L, W. Loftus, and Corporal Barney Lots was also fatally shot. Along a street Corporal A. L. Whitworth was hit in the groin and dropped in front of a house. Mrs. Emma Budge and Mrs. Jones, braving the fire, ran out and assisted the wounded man to shelter.

    Upon arrival of Company F, Thirty-fifth Infantry, it got action in the support of Troop C on the Reservoir Hill sector. A private was hit and fell across the street from the home of “Colonel” A. T. Bird. June Reed, a niece of the Birds, and Miss O’Daley ran out the back and called to the man. He crawled across the street and was helped into the house. We young cavalry officers were very proud of June for the brave deed. She had favored our acquaintance and company over that of the infantry at the hops and Sunday horseback rides. After her display of courage she increased in favor as our special girl friend.

    During the earlier part of the engagement another of our cavalry girls became involved. Pat Shannon, who lived in a hotel fronting Morley Avenue and near the line, had her share of excitement. Two armed citizens used the upstairs window of her room for a firing station, Pat stood close by them, handing out ammunition as the guns were emptied. She was the daughter of a Chicago physician and employed as pianist by the Nogales Theatre moving picture house. Some weeks after the affray Pat and Lieutenant “Dee” de Lorimer, Tenth Cavalry, were married,

    In addition to the citizenry, who shared the. gun fight, there were some unattached officers and soldiers engaged.

    The sergeant of Ordnance Depot No. 2 near the cavalry camp told me that during the fight overtown and while loading a truck with ammunition a colored trooper came galloping up, dressed only in a hospital gown and riding bareback with a halter shank to guide his mount. The “sick” soldier begged for a rifle and shells so as to join his troop. Army regulations to the contrary notwithstanding, the old sergeant picked out a rifle, had the trooper sign a receipt, and gave him a couple of bandoliers of ammunition. Off he went at an extended gallop, the loose hospital gown floating out like a sail, and his bare legs thumping the ribs of the horse in an urge for more speed.


    Machine Gun Co, 35th Infantry, ——————————————————————————————”de Lorimer”,
    Nogales, AZ, 1917. Photo courtesy John Carr——————————————————Photo courtesy F.H.L. Ryder collection

    The records show that Quartermaster Sergeant Victor Arana, with the Thirty-fifth Infantry, was wounded. It is probable that the sergeant abandoned his truck detail and chose to get on the firing line for the battle.

    (Another Quartermaster soldier, Pvt, First Class James Flavian Lavery, earned a Distinguished Service Cross at the Battle of Nogales for “braving the heaviest fire, repeatedly entering the zone of fire with his motor truck and carrying wounded men to places of safety, thereby saving the lives of several soldiers.”)

    “Bill Scott”, Photo courtesy F.H.L. Ryder collection

    Lieutenant William Scott, Tenth Cavalry, was riding a motorcycle into town on business from Fort Huachuca. Nearing the cavalry camp he heard the firing. Speeding up he took a familiar back track for the high ground above the Sonora town. Arriving close to the place, the cycle was hidden, and he crept to the brow of the hill overlooking the scene of conflict. Besides his .45 pistol Scotty was armed with a new Winchester, which he had “souvenired” some months before at the Yaqui fight in Bear Valley. From his solitary station he spent the time picking off snipers from the rooftops below. Whenever there was a scarcity of targets, he kept in practice by potting chickens that were running in and out of the adobe shocks. Scotty was a former sergeant out of the Texas Big Bend border service. He had been on the Punitive Expedition into Mexico with the Sixth Cavalry.

    Captain James T. Duke, Tenth Cavalry (now a retired brigadier general), was in Nogales on business and volunteered his services. After the death of Captain Hungerford, he was detailed to command Troop C. Major H. B. Cheadle, Infantry, on leave in town, also was assigned duties, Lieutenant James B. Potter, Tenth Cavalry, Adjutant of the Nogales subdistrict, served on the line. Lieutenant S. M. Lockwood of Troop A had duty as an aide for Lieutenant Colonel Herman during the affray. His liaison duties were doubled after the commander suffered a slight but hampering leg wound.

    When the white flag was displayed, Colonel Herman had buglers sound “Cease Fire.” A messenger from the Mexican consul in his office on the American side gave the information that the Mexican commandante and officials wanted a conference in the American consulate building located on the Sonora side. Sniping continued from various locations, but disregarding the danger, the commanding officer with Lieutenant Robert S. Israel of the Intelligence section proceeded to the appointed place. A truce was quickly arranged. The next day Brigadier General DeRosey C. Cabell, the Arizona District commander, arrived from Douglas. After a meeting with the Mexican official party regarding the situation, the hostilities were resolved.

    That ended the Battle of Nogales.(14)

    In fairness to the guard detail from the 35th Infantry, the remarks of then Lt. Oliver Fannin about a book called Blood on the Border by Clarence Clendenen are included here. Fannin was concerned that the book, and the accounts like that of Wharfield’s upon which the book was based, give the impression that the Battle of Nogales was fought solely by the 10th Cavalry. He tried to correct that misleading idea in a letter that he wrote to his son in 1972.

    A small band of enlisted men out of H Company of the: 35fh Infantry (who) were doing guard duty along the international border when the trouble started. These men were the real heroes. There were not more than 15 or 20 of them. They were there when the fighting started and they were there when it ended, less those who were killed or wounded.

    The meeting of Herman and the American consul and the Mexican officials occurred in broad day light, out in the open, just across the international boundary line in Mexico. I know, because I was there, Herman having asked me to go with him. (Lieutenant Fannin was detailed as Colonel Herman’s aide.) I remember distinctly that while this conference was going on a sniper’s bullet cut off a small limb of a tree that fell pretty close to me and I felt like diving into a big ditch that was close to us. At this conference the American consul asked Herman what he wanted said to the Mexicans, and Colonel Herman replied, “Tell them to gather all of their forces and surrender them to me within thirty minutes.” The American consul demurred, stating that the Mexican authorities could not gather together all of the people who were doing the shooting. The only shooting that was then occurring was some sniping, and it was agreed that both side would attempt to stop their forces from any further sniping.

    The book (Clendenen’s Blood on the Border) further states that Herman had received Information several days before the episode that there was likely to be trouble, and that although he was skeptical of this information, he had succeeded in obtaining reinforcements, including some machine guns. There were only two or three skeleton companies of the 35th Infantry there at the time, and I know of no reinforcements to these companies. I was officer of the day at the time that this happened, and it seems to me that if Herman had received any such information he certainly should have passed it on to me and the others who were doing the guard duty along the international boundary line at the time.(15)

    Fannin would win the Distinguished Service Cross “For valor and bravery ... while under fire, carried a wounded man to safety in the Nogales battle.” He was also the recipient of the following testimonial prepared by thirty-three of the leading citizens of Nogales.

    The undersigned citizens of Nogales, Arizona, take this method of giving expression to our appreciation of the gallantry and bravery of Lieut. Oliver Fannin, of the Thirty-fifth Regiment of Infantry, U.S.A., and the men on guard duty at the International Boundary, at Nogales, Arizona, on Tuesday, August 27, 1918, upon which momentous occasion Lieut. Fannin was officer of the guard.

    At the very beginning of the hostile demonstration, Lieut. 4 Fannin hurried to the boundary the reserve of the guard, and taking position he stood off the attack until the garrlson could be brought to the line and take up the work. The losses of his men, which were a large percentage of all the loss, show the bravery and gallantry of the little force commanded by the heroic officer. Through all the fight, with his men firing from prone position, Lieut. Fannin stood erect, encouraging his men, directing their fire, and contributing to the effectiveness of their work. Their loss of two killed and four wounded presents the perilous position then occupied and held.

    In presenting this testimonial we do so without solicitation, to present our appreciation and admiration of a gallan officer and brave men.(16)

    Capt. Joseph D. Hungerford, Troop F, 10th Cavalry, was killed while leading his men in a frontal assault on Mexican troops. Lieutenant Loftus of Company C, 35th Infantry, was killed by sniper fire as he brought his men into position. Other American casualties were three enlisted men killed, including Private W. H. Klint and Corporal Barney Lots, both of Company H, 35th Infantry, and several civilians. Two officers, Lt. Col. F. J. Herman and Capt. H. C. Caron, both of the 10th Cavalry, and twenty-nine men were wounded. Mexican casualties are not known, but found among the Mexican dead were the bodies of two German agents provocateurs.

    Footnotes:

    12. Glass, Edward L.N., History of the Tenth Cavalry, 1866-1921, Old Army Press, 1921,83.

    13. Wharfield, 1965,16-23.

    14. Wharfield, 1965,16-23.

    15. Fanin letter in Fort Huachuca Museum files.

    16. Fanin bio file, Arizona Historical Society.

    http://net.lib.byu.edu/estu/wwi/comment/huachuca/HI2-06.htm

  • The U. S. Doesn’t Need Any More Of The World’s Tired, Poor, Or Huddled Masses

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    robowombat to crusty old prospector
    Oops, it is in Arizona not Kalifornia.

    Yes, actually there was a large battle there in 1918 with Mexican forces and the 24th Infantry, if memory serves me correctly. Several hundred casualties were inflicted on the armed dreamers by the black soldiers of the US Army.