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Posts by presidio9

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  • The Deficits Republicans Don't Want to Talk About

    01/27/2015 6:59:51 PM PST · 11 of 25
    presidio9 to ilgipper

    US debt was $10.6 trillion when Obama took office. It currently stands at $18 trillion, or $154,000 for every tax paying citizen in this country. Over the 8 years of George Bush’s presidency, he added $4.9 trillion.

  • The Deficits Republicans Don't Want to Talk About

    01/27/2015 6:18:02 PM PST · 1 of 25
    presidio9
    This article was intended to include the following subheading (too many characters): "Bernie Sanders Disciple Exposes Inability To Differentia 'Debt' From 'Deficit'"
  • Abortion Vote Shows How Much Democrats' World Has Changed

    01/27/2015 5:59:17 PM PST · 1 of 3
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  • Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    01/27/2015 5:53:25 PM PST · 47 of 63
    presidio9 to Libloather

    Criticize the president for bowing to King Abdulla in 2009, or criticize the first lady for not wearing the najib, but pick one. Can't have it both ways.

  • Hillary Clinton Has Been M.I.A. Lately -- and Here's Why

    01/27/2015 9:20:51 AM PST · 1 of 114
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  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 8:40:27 PM PST · 298 of 498
    presidio9 to july4thfreedomfoundation
    I’m voting for Ted Cruz.

    Ted Cruz would make an excellent president. But the GOP has fixed the primary schedule in such a way that it will make it very difficult, if not impossible, for him to win the nomination if he does not win two of three out of Iowa, New Hampshire and Utah. Along with NY, CO and MI these are the first six primaries.

    Why the GOP would permit states that it can't win in the general election to move to such prominent positions, I can't say. But it will be a major concern for candidates like Cruz. He has no chance in NY or Minnesota, and very little chance in Colorado.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 8:24:39 PM PST · 289 of 498
    presidio9 to Windflier
    I need to correct something from this post:

    People in my position have to be satisfied with small victories, but perhaps that RINO president (they are never truly principled) will be instrumental in getting a Supreme Court nominee approved.

    It should have said:

    "People in my position have to be satisfied with small victories, but perhaps that RINO senator(they are never truly principled) will be instrumental in getting a Supreme Court nominee approved.

    Small difference there, but it is a significant contextual change.

    I don't believe that electing RINO presidents (or RINO I the classic sense, anyway) does much good for the country. But I do believe that it valuable, for opposition votes to be counted in this very liberal state.

    And, for that same reason, I always vote straight Conservative Party line on all my ballots. I used to vote Right TO Life Party, but then a few years ago, that party did not get enough votes in an election and it was permanently removed from the ballot.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 8:17:13 PM PST · 281 of 498
    presidio9 to ansel12; Windflier
    presidio, at some point you need to realize that many people on this thread have been confused by your posts, and especially since your pal flaglady left.

    I'm not surprised that you're misreading the conversation that I'm having with windflier, but it turns out that we actually agree on the substantial points. We disagree on the use of a term. Because I am a diplomatic person, I asked him to suggest an alternative.

    I won't put words in his mouth, but I believe that if you asked him, he would acknowledge the sad fact that candidate Ronald Reagan would have a difficult time winning a republican primary in 2016.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 8:11:55 PM PST · 278 of 498
    presidio9 to OneWingedShark
    (IOW, McCain, Romney, Boehner, et al — they are the true Republicans. It is conservatives, constitutionalists, and libertarians that are the RINOs.)

    I haven't spent much time on FR in a while, but this is the best line that I've heard in moths.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 8:10:21 PM PST · 277 of 498
    presidio9 to Windflier
    OK, I'll explain why empathy is as far as I go. I live in NYC, where people like me are an endangered species.

    I also believe that nutjobs like Bill De Blasio, as distasteful as they may be, are in some ways doing this city a service by helping it hit rock bottom.

    No, I don't believe that it likely that New York will become a red state any time soon.

    But I also believe in herd mentality. I think that it will ultimately help some New Yorkers to make the break from liberal insanity if they believe that they are not alone.

    So I cast my vote for whatever "R" is on the ticket. That candidate virtually always loses, but I am comforted by the fact that I am helping to document that a few of us do exist behind the lines. So, while my vote for president will probably never count in my lifetime, it is entirely possible that it will one day contribute to NY electing another RINO senator. People in my position have to be satisfied with small victories, but perhaps that RINO president (they are never truly principled) will be instrumental in getting a Supreme Court nominee approved.

    That's about the best someone in my position can ever hope for with his vote.

    In the mean time, I put all of my energy trying to get conservatives I meet in places like this (I go days at a time without talking to a conservative in real life) to rally around the best conservative primary candidate who can knock off the Mitt Romneys and John McCains of this world.

    Perhaps I need to do a better job of explaining my motivations. Because if you react to that by saying that I support RINO candidates, then I'm definitely not making myself clear. I wasted a lot of time working on the Rob Astorino campaign this fall. Never thought he had a snowball's chance in help, but I did it anyway, because it was the right thing to do. These are the types of concessions you have to make when you are a conservative in a place that elects people like Bill De Blasio for its leaders.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 7:53:55 PM PST · 268 of 498
    presidio9 to Windflier
    It's why we conservatives have to band together behind ONE candidate early on, and resist all efforts to divide us.

    I'm confused. I thought that's just what I've been saying all along. Either I haven't made myself clear enough, or you saw the term "ideological purity" and convinced yourself that I was saying something else.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 7:49:55 PM PST · 265 of 498
    presidio9 to OneWingedShark
    I see you read The Tao of Republican Orthodoxy… you are aware that that was a parody, yes?

    Nope, first I'm hearing of it.

    Do you disagree that the Republican political climate was quite different in 1980 than it is today?

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 7:47:12 PM PST · 263 of 498
    presidio9 to Windflier

    I think I get your point that the term “ideological purity” is a red flag for you. Is there a different one that you prefer?

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 7:45:10 PM PST · 260 of 498
    presidio9 to ansel12
    Here's what I took from post 190, Ansell. It was JimRob's polite way of calling you a tar baby. It was good advice, but I really am trying to help. I have known Jim on this website for fifteen years. If he thought that I was attacking Ronald Reagan, I can assure you that he would not be so cryptic.

    You seem to be struggling with the concept of the different political circumstances that Reagan would face today. I will expand, and perhaps it will help you to understand:

    You do realize that Ronald Reagan is no long with us, right? And you also realize that even if he were still alive (but presumably not 103 years old), the 22nd Amendment would disqualify him from running, right?

    It should therefore be common sense that we are dealing with a hypothetical candidate with the same track record as Reagan had when he ran in 1980. Not the man himself.

    In 2016 it would be very difficult for an otherwise conservative candidate to win the Republican nomination for president if he had previously signed an abortion bill into law as a state governor. This is not a conclusion that should have an argument.

    That is not to say that a similar candidate could not run to the right and win the nomination anyway, as we have seen with Mitt Romney. But Romney is a very different politician. And Reagan was a very different type of man.

    Now, you can keep this up if you like, but as far as I'm concerned, you are embarrassing yourself. You stalked me onto this thread, and you are making yourself look bad without my help.

    It is not rational behavior, and that is why I worry about you.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 7:28:07 PM PST · 246 of 498
    presidio9 to Norm Lenhart
    I would. Discuss conservatism with conservatives. Like we used to do before that fraud and her fellows took it upon themselves to turn these threads into Romney admiration societies.

    And I think Dark would agree.

    One of the nice things about this site is you don't get a lot of total wingnuts just trolling for a fight.

    But it's also nice to have a foil occasionally, to help clarify your own thinking. Personally, I don't mind having a few Romneybots and the like around here. I learn a few things hearing others make the case against their stupidity.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 7:21:35 PM PST · 241 of 498
    presidio9 to Norm Lenhart; Darksheare
    Again, why shouldn’t she. She does it, continues doing it and is still here.

    I'm a fan of each of you, but it's starting to sound a little bit like neither of you would know what to do with yourself if she wasn't here.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 7:16:52 PM PST · 236 of 498
    presidio9 to Windflier
    Baloney. I know for a fact that's it's illegal, per FR rules, to read the thread OR the article before posting!

    It does certainly seem to be, doesn't it?

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 7:15:37 PM PST · 234 of 498
    presidio9 to ansel12
    Two things Ansell:

    First, I have never attacked Ronald Reagan. In fact, I just got finished saying that he was the second greatest president in this nation's history.

    Second, you are not making much sense in the rest of your post. What we did in 1980 is irrelevant. I'm very worried about you if you don't understand this.

    This is what I was talking about when I warned you yesterday about wasting your life and hurting yourself.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 7:10:39 PM PST · 227 of 498
    presidio9 to Windflier
    I agree with everything you're saying here, but it's really starting to sound like you want to have an argument about Mitt Romney with someone, and you want me to be that guy.

    I think the two people that you're looking for have left this thread. I can't imagine that there were very many people on this website who were more vocally opposed to Romney than I was in 2012.

    Here's my only point. I agree the logic that leads people to stay home and not vote when we inevitably nominate someone like Romney. Personally, I wouldn't go that far, but I can empathize.

    My observations are concerned with the primaries. Before I worry about who the absolute best, most conservative candidate is in the field, my first priority is to ensure we don't get stuck with a choice between Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush or Mitt Romeny.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 7:02:03 PM PST · 214 of 498
    presidio9 to ansel12
    I also never said that Ansell. Clearly we did support Reagan in 1980.

    What I said was that he'd have a much more difficult time doing so today. This is a significant distinction. If you're confused, or having a difficult time understanding, please just say so and perhaps I can help you appreciate the difference.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 6:53:32 PM PST · 207 of 498
    presidio9 to Windflier
    I think you're still not hearing what I'm saying.

    When I spoke of "ideological purity" I was not using it in the sense that the GOP establishment an talking heads use it. I was speaking strictly in terms of litmus tests that effect the logjam of otherwise presentable candidates from the conservative wing of the party. If you were paying attention the last two times around, it was exhausting.

    What ended up happening was we had three or four acceptable challengers to Romney on the right. Every time one of them put and daylight between himself and the rest, the other two or three and his (or her) supporters ganged up on the frontrunner. That's how we ended up with Romney, and its how Reagan would probably lose the nomination in today's climate. Any time he built a lead, the debate would focus on his amnesty and abortion history, and he'd be done.

    When Reagan ran in 1980, he was the conservative alternative to George Bush, John Anderson, Bob Dole and Howard Baker. That's not what we have today. The pack is on the right. The outlier is in the middle.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 6:36:51 PM PST · 193 of 498
    presidio9 to ansel12
    I see, so “you” would vote for Reagan, but you want to tell the rest of us, over our protests and explanations, that we wouldn’t.

    Amazingly, this is also pretty much the opposite of what I said. But if you insist of fighting with yourself, by all means, be my guest.

    I'd be lying if I said it wasn't sort of fun to watch, it its own tragic way.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 6:27:05 PM PST · 185 of 498
    presidio9 to ansel12
    So Reagan sucks, and you wouldn’t vote for him, fine, thanks for sharing.

    I'm confident that it's pretty clear from my postings on this thread that that's exactly the opposite of what I said.

    It's also pretty clear to me that you're upset with me for trying to help you elsewhere with your personal issues. For what it's worth, I'm sorry that I upset you.

    But your temper tantrum won't get me interested in any flame wars.

    I believe that Ronald Reagan was the second best president in this nation's history, after George Washington, and ahead of Abraham Lincoln. I like to think that if he were in a primary today, that I'd be smart enough to vote for him.

    But I'd have a hard time getting past his pro-abortion vote, and I know I'm alone in that sentiment.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 6:16:16 PM PST · 171 of 498
    presidio9 to ansel12
    It is you agreeing with the romneybot, not me.

    It's sad that it has to come to this, but I am doing so because she is making more sense than you.

    Reagan did invoke amnesty. He did sign an abortion bill into law as governor of California.

    Either one would be a death sentence in today's primary climate.

    It's depressing that someone could spend as much time as you do on this website and not appear to know these things.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 6:09:55 PM PST · 157 of 498
    presidio9 to Osage Orange
    I'm on the wrong web site!!

    Or perhaps you're not following this website's guidelines, and reading the thread before posting.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 6:08:45 PM PST · 154 of 498
    presidio9 to ansel12

    You are more delusional that I realized if you think that was my point Ansell. As we have seen on this very thread, there are (amazingly) even some FReepers who still believe in Mitt Romney.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 6:04:04 PM PST · 148 of 498
    presidio9 to StAnDeliver
    You are doing your math wrong. After IA & NH, the next primaries will be held in CO, MN NY & UT on February 2. One purple state, two Blue states, and one Red. Romney and Bush will finish 1:2 in at least two of those and one of them will be leading in delegate count.

    The way I see it, if Cruz does not win IA or NH, he will be lucky to pick off UT (6 electoral votes). Campaigns dollars are highly reliant on optics, and most campaigns spent at least 1/2 of their initial budget on the first two primaries, hoping to replenish with momentum. At that point, aside from the stubborn (a group which will definitely include Rand Paul), any candidate not in the top four will swimming against the tide.

    Ted Cruz is a good man, but there is an excellent chance that he will be done by the 2nd week of February.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 5:53:29 PM PST · 130 of 498
    presidio9 to flaglady47
    Doubt he could get elected today though or voted for by some Freepers.

    At the risk of sounding like I agree with a Mitt Romney supporter, I will second that.

    If Ronald Reagan threw his hat in the ring in 2016, Mitt Romney would probably still win the nomination.

    That's how broken the system is.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 5:49:47 PM PST · 121 of 498
    presidio9 to Windflier
    You have been here long enough that I shouldn't have to post "RTFT", but I guess I do anyway.

    What "got us Romney" was the constant and repeated annihilation of every single conservative front runner.

    He was the last man standing.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 5:41:40 PM PST · 107 of 498
    presidio9 to Diogenesis
    Romney is an imposer of statism, gay marriage, socialized medicine, open borders.

    Forget about those for a moment. The man has been actively pro-choice in his political career. Immediate disqualification.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 5:39:31 PM PST · 104 of 498
    presidio9 to Windflier
    You're still trying to pick a fight, instead of hearing what I'm saying. In a primary, dude. If it means not having Mitt Romney on the ticket, yes I will.

    However, as I said, I live in NY. Mitt will win that primary anyway, but the picture will still be cloudy enough at that point that I will be free to vote for whomever I prefer.

    Again, at this point that is most likely to be Walker. But as he has never run a national candidacy, I am anxious to see how he handles himself.

    We can be reasonably confident that there are no skeletons in his closet after three high profile campaigns that included a recall election.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 5:23:22 PM PST · 75 of 498
    presidio9 to Windflier
    Sounds to me like you're already setting yourself (and others) up to vote LibRINO. That about right?

    What it sounds like to me is that you're already getting yourself warmed up for the next round of name calling. Hope its a blast for you.

    As I said, the first priority is finding a guy who can win.

    I'm not sure that Bush or Romney even qualify there, but if they did, they would not make the next cut, which would be "Find a guy who is not Bush or Romney."

    And so on.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 5:20:04 PM PST · 73 of 498
    presidio9 to Windflier
    See post 61.

    And I will say this: I have no use for Rand Paul, or his all over the place foreign policy.

    But I believe that he can win a general election. I will vote for him if I have to.

    I also believe that he has inherited the tenacity of his father, and will stick around longer than most. I will be rooting for pretty much anyone else for the non-establishment wing of the party. But if it got to that point, I would hold my nose and vote for him. I won't have that chance this time around. NY (29 electoral votes) moved up on the calendar. It will now be held immediately after NH, on Feb 7th. Either Bush or Romney will win NY, and the other may very likely drop out at that point.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 5:09:12 PM PST · 61 of 498
    presidio9 to Norm Lenhart
    No. The criteria should be ‘Is this the best person for America?

    This is exactly the type of attitude I was referring to, and I'm surprised. I think you're better than that.

    If you and I were the only two people with primary votes, what you're saying here would make a lot more sense. But like it or not, Romney is going to pick up a ton of delegates in places that he can't win in the general election.

    What we can do on places like this website -the only thing, really -is to get our ducks in a row and pick a champion, instead of wasting time figuring things like which candidate made the most enthusiastic attacks on gay marriage (or whatever political topic is in fashion that week). If we fail to do that, we end up with Romney, and, ultimately, Hillary.

    The point about "The best candidate who can win" refers to guys like Santorum. Love him. Love his politics. But can he win? I say "no," and I move on to someone who can. Even if it means I have to be called a RINO on this website.

    As of now, my candidate is probably Walker, should he choose to run. The next question becomes "Can he win. I'm still not convinced yet, but he as a year to prove he can.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 5:00:49 PM PST · 49 of 498
    presidio9 to Windflier
    What the hell. Why not just come right out and say that conservative principles are a dusty old relic of the past, and admit that party is all that matters?

    That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that I've seen this movie, and I know how it ends. I promise you: You won't like it.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 4:59:22 PM PST · 47 of 498
    presidio9 to Norm Lenhart
    I think you misread me: "My criteria start with 'Can he beat Hillary?'"

    In other words, that's a deal breaker. It should be.

    And, for that matter, Jeb is not someone who I am convinced can.

    A lot of establishment pundits are saying that Hillary's inevitability works in Jeb's favor. I think the opposite is true. If Hillary is the DNC nominee, I see a lot of voters throwing up their hands in disgust -but only if Jeb isn't on the other side of the ticket.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 4:55:27 PM PST · 43 of 498
    presidio9 to StAnDeliver
    Cruz and Rand would benefit because of the stark contrasts and "new car smell".

    Again, this prediction is worthless if Bush does not do well early and gets out of the race.

    There's a lot you can say about Romney, but his is incredibly intelligent, and a highly successful business man. For sure he rationalizes that all he needs to do is rack up huge blue and purple states like NY, CA, IL, and WI. If he does that, and guys like Cruz and Paul split places like TX and KY (Bush likely wins FL, btw) it really won't matter how much we hate him. We'll be stuck with him. Again.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 4:49:43 PM PST · 40 of 498
    presidio9 to Norm Lenhart
    I don't believe in gay marriage, but given the problems that the country was facing (and continues to face), it wasn't as big a litmus test for me as it was for some. It is, however, a good example of the problem that we are sure to face in the upcoming election: Any time any potentially acceptable candidate says something regrettable, he gets destroyed. We both watched it happen again and again.

    My candidate in the last election was "Not Romney." This time around, it will be "Not Bush or Romney."

    My criteria start with "Can he beat Hillary?"

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 4:32:33 PM PST · 24 of 498
    presidio9

    And, for that reason, I see his decision as good news for conservatives.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 4:31:18 PM PST · 23 of 498
    presidio9 to Norm Lenhart
    That was not my take on the last nomination. -Not there weren't a few yahoos he managed to win over here, but what I saw was different factions getting behind on flavor of the month or another and ganging up on whichever conservative was leading in the polls.

    We got so hung up on ideological purity that the worst possible candidate didn't have to do much except avoid throwing up all over himself. This time at least, he will have a formidable match in Bush, and perhaps Christie.

    The point is to get behind one candidate on the other side of the party. Early. From where I was sitting, it really sucked hearing how Santorum, Bachmann, Cain, and (yes, even) Gingrich and Perry were not conservative enough. Regularly. Because all it accomplished was to make the worst possible choice inevitable.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 4:18:27 PM PST · 11 of 498
    presidio9 to Norm Lenhart

    Just you wait until Jon Huntsman throws his hat into the ring. The two have about an equal chance this time around with Bush already declared.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 4:13:25 PM PST · 5 of 498
    presidio9 to CyberAnt
    A better place for him to “serve” would be running the games; if Boston wins it.

    Perhaps he can serve by dividing the Rockefeller vote with Jeb Bush while five or six candidates beat themselves up again over who is most conservative.

    The primary system is very broken in this country. States like California and New York (which the eventual nominee will have zero chance of winning) are among the biggest primary prizes.

  • Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid

    01/09/2015 4:07:09 PM PST · 1 of 498
    presidio9
  • Politically correct CNN refers to black hostage taker in France as ‘African American’

    01/09/2015 3:59:08 PM PST · 23 of 111
    presidio9 to maggief

    "African American"

  • What Mario Cuomo got wrong on abortion

    01/09/2015 3:40:46 PM PST · 42 of 45
    presidio9 to ansel12
    Look Ansell, I see how you’ve conceded my point and moved on to another example. Everything that I said was correct, of course.

    But realize that I am doing you a disservice in playing along with your mania. I apologize, and will try to make a better effort to stick to the urgent facts. They are:

    You log onto this website every day, seek out threads relating to Catholicism –sometimes related to significant news stories, sometimes not.

    On these threads, you get into heated, but ultimately unresolved debates with a different stranger, who you can’t see and will never meet.

    You spend a great deal of time doing this, day after day, and have been doing so for years.

    All of that work on your part has accomplished exactly nothing.

    This picture fits nicely with the quote incorrectly attributed to Einstein “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.” He denied saying it, but it is nevertheless rational.

    My point is this: Life is short, and you are wasting it. Your behavior should disturb you. You clearly enjoy trolling thread on anonymous political forums. If you prefer to waste yours in this fashion, you could be accomplishing far more by doing so on a moderate forum. Get in touch with what, exactly, it is that bothers you about Catholicism (newsflash: It’s not voting patterns), and put it to rest.

    This is just a suggestion. If you prefer to waste your life alienating those who otherwise agree with you on a point that they will and can never concede, so be it. It’s depressing of course, but it’s your life to waste

  • What Mario Cuomo got wrong on abortion

    01/09/2015 3:18:04 PM PST · 41 of 45
    presidio9 to chimera

    You are wasting your time. Ansell is content to accept the liberal media’s definition of “Catholic” because it serves a greater purpose for him in attacking the Catholic Church. I am trying to help him confront the issue that motivates his behavior.

  • What Mario Cuomo got wrong on abortion

    01/08/2015 11:27:25 PM PST · 33 of 45
    presidio9 to ansel12
    Wow Ansell. I finished watching the Rangers kick ass in LA, and was just about to call it a night. I was proud of you, but I guess you couldn't help yourself. Baby steps. Tomorrow, see if you can control your impulses for 24 hours. Then try to beat that record.

    In the meantime, it sounds like you're not clear on the mechanics of a presidential election, so perhaps I can help there too. In this country, we elect presidents through an electoral college, not by simple majority. In the 1996 election Clinton won there 379 to 159. The top 5 closest states that Bill Clinton won and Bob Dole lost were, in order: KY, NV, AZ, TN & FL. Other than AZ (30%) none of them are more than 25% Catholic. So, no, if Catholics had voted the same as other Christians in the 1996 election (they went for Clinton 50 to 41 percent), it is not likely that the election would have gone to Dole in any event.

    But it is illustrative of a deeper point: The cultural fabric of our national politics. By that I mean that the region than a person comes from, and their ethnic and socioeconomic background is a much better indication of a person's religious affiliation than their religious habits. For the most part. Jews and a few minority religious groups are the notable exceptions who predictably vote in as a liberal block. It is for exactly that reason that among the strongest of all conservatives are conservative Jews: They have to be. Same goes for conservative blacks. And conservative Hispanics for that matter. Ever met a first generation Cuban immigrant?

    But, again, this is really not the most helpful conversation for you right now. What you need to be reminded of -constantly -is the fact that you log on every day to FR and seek out threads that have any association to Catholicism. When you get there, you pick pretty much the same exact fight with a different stranger, day after day after day. Until then, you've got yourself a the mental health equivalent of a sobriety coach. I am writing a paper for grad school right now, so I'm spending a lot of time on my laptop. Every time you return to your negative behavior, I am going to keep reminding your mistake. It's a win/win, I think, because it will help keep me focused on my work. If I have time, I may even start checking on your behavior on other threads. Make a valid point, I'll leave you alone. Return to your compulsive habits, I'll be there to support you. I'm that kind of guy.

    You may think you're helping yourself with delusional claims about educating pro life conservatives. But everyone that I am aware of on this website is pro life. Everyone is equally disgusted with men like Mario Cuomo. Its quite evident that you know that deep down. You don't like yourself very much and you are lashing out at strangers because you think it will help. It won't. You need to come to terms with what, exactly, it is that bothers you about Catholics and Catholicism and be honest about it. Then you need to find something different to do with your time every day. I would suggest volunteering to help with a political campaign (you're clearly motivated, and I don't doubt your political convictions), but there are endless opportunities for anyone with time to contribute.

    My prediction is this: When you come to terms with whatever it is that is bothering you personally, life will get better for you. If you don't you will continue on this cycle of self-destructive behavior. The choice is yours.

    But I'm rooting for you Ansell.

  • What Mario Cuomo got wrong on abortion

    01/08/2015 4:55:13 PM PST · 31 of 45
    presidio9 to ansel12
    Here's the thing Ansell: Most healthy people don't feel the need to obsess over that fact, because it is common knowledge. I posted the thread because it's obviously distressing to me and most Catholics that people like Cuomo continue to get cover from the liberal media and even some members of the Catholic clergy. Most intelligent people would understand that that was the purpose of this thread, and why I pointed out for someone who asked that the Cuomos did not want to chance getting into a fight with Cardinal Dolan over Saint Patrick's.

    However, the deeper (and therefore far more immediate) issue here remains the fact that you log on every day and get into the same argument with one Catholic or another about their religious beliefs. I was not the first person to point it out on this thread. This is not sane behavior.

    Feel free to accuse others of trolling, but its easy to document your habit of going out of your way to pick fights with Catholics, and your logic for doing so is not rational. Your daily posting history speaks for itself: You spend hours and hours (and hours...)on this website, fighting with people you can't see and don't know, and it is effecting you emotionally.

    That's the only reason why I am still on this thread. Nothing you or I are saying here on this subject is new or is going to change minds. I'm worried about you, Ansell, as one Christian to another -not the lurkers. Your behavior and what passes for logic in your unhealthy mind speak for themselves. I'd like to see you get help.

    If I can be a small part of that, I consider it well worth my time. I think you have more to offer.

  • What Mario Cuomo got wrong on abortion

    01/08/2015 3:21:13 PM PST · 29 of 45
    presidio9 to ansel12
    Clearly that's not what I did. I would say that I am content to agree to disagree with you on this issue, but I am genuinely concerned. You spend way too much time on this social media site. I can relate. I've been there. There are worse ways to waste time.

    But while you're one this site, you spend way too much time obsessing on your own incorrect understanding of a religion that you are not part of and have no first-hand experience with. This is mostly harmless for others, who mostly have better things to do with their lives, and are hopefully intelligent enough to see your delusions for what they are. But for you, on the other hand, they are particularly harmful. You need to address what it is, specifically, that is bothering you personally about Catholics, and Catholicism -why you log on to this site every day to make the same complaints and lob the same insults at conservatives who are otherwise like yourself except that they have learned to reconcile those who claim a religion for survey purposes versus the one they actually practice. Obviously, you can't think of anything better to do with your time, but I can assure you: There's more to life.

    You can shoot the messenger if you like. But as I said, I want to help. But first you must be willing to help yourself. That start with looking at the mirror and recognizing the behavior for what it is.

  • What Mario Cuomo got wrong on abortion

    01/08/2015 1:44:51 PM PST · 27 of 45
    presidio9 to ansel12
    I know this is difficult for you Ansell.

    But reprinting your previous post will not change the facts of this conversation, nor your disturbed posting history here on this political web forum.

    I'm here to help when your ready.