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  • Swiss Bishops' Conference: Confessor Should Ignore Church Teaching on Morals (Catholic Caucus)

    09/01/2015 4:57:17 PM PDT · 4 of 8
    PeterPrinciple to ebb tide

    er 23:36 But stop using this phrase, ‘prophecy from the LORD.’ For people are using it to give authority to their own ideas, turning upside down the words of our God, the living God, the LORD of Heaven’s Armies.
    Jer 23:37 “This is what you should say to the prophets: ‘What is the LORD’s answer?’ or ‘What is the LORD saying?’


    The response to every false prophet should be , “What does God say about this?” Keep repeating....................

  • M’ARTHUR OPENS HEADQUARTERS IN YOKOHAMA; FREED PRISONERS CHARGE BRUTALITY BY FOE (8/31/45)

    08/31/2015 7:48:21 AM PDT · 15 of 46
    PeterPrinciple to PeterPrinciple

    There is lend lease and there are loans after the war:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-American_loan

    Britain needed to retain some of this equipment in the immediate post war period. As a result the Anglo-American loan came about. Lend-lease items retained were sold to Britain at the knockdown price of about 10 cents on the dollar giving an initial value of £1,075 million.[5]

    “Under the Agreement, the loans would be repaid in 50 annual instalments commencing in 1950. However the Agreement allowed deferral of annual payments of both principal and interest if necessary because of prevailing international exchange rate conditions and the level of the United Kingdom’s foreign currency and gold reserves. The United Kingdom has deferred payments on six occasions. Repayment of the war loans to the United States Government should therefore be completed on 31 December 2006, subject to the United Kingdom not choosing to exercise its option to defer payment.

  • M’ARTHUR OPENS HEADQUARTERS IN YOKOHAMA; FREED PRISONERS CHARGE BRUTALITY BY FOE (8/31/45)

    08/31/2015 7:39:48 AM PDT · 14 of 46
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson
  • M’ARTHUR OPENS HEADQUARTERS IN YOKOHAMA; FREED PRISONERS CHARGE BRUTALITY BY FOE (8/31/45)

    08/31/2015 7:37:19 AM PDT · 13 of 46
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson
    4TH Marines didn't make it to Tokyo?

    Didn't know it was formed and disbanded overseas. Remember that marines were reassigned divisions with those being discharged moved to divisions that were disbanded.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6th_Marine_Division_(United_States)
    The 6th Marine Division was a United States Marine Corps World War II infantry division formed in September 1944. During the invasion of Okinawa it saw combat at Yae-Take and Sugar Loaf Hill and was awarded a Presidential Unit Citation. The 6th Division had also prepared for the invasion of Japan before the war ended. After the war it served in Tsingtao, China where the division was disbanded on April 1, 1946, being the only Marine division to be formed and disbanded overseas and never set foot in the United States.[4] In July 1945, the 6th division was withdrawn from Okinawa to the island of Guam to prepare for Operation Coronet, the planned invasion of Honshū, Japan that was supposed to occur in April 1946 but the Japanese surrenderd in August 1945. While the 4th Marines were sent for brief occupation duty in Japan,[22] the rest of the 6th spent September in Guam preparing for duty in China[23] The division arrived in Tsingtao, China on 11 October 1945[23] where it remained until it was disbanded on April 1, 1946,[24][25][26] being replaced by the 3d Marine Brigade.[27] In its time at Tsingtao the division not only accepted the surrender of local Japanese forces (on Oct 25[24][25]) but also oversaw their subsequent repatriation to Japan; prevented the communists from attacking the surrendered Japanese forces and dissuaded communist forces from advancing on the city,[28] restored and maintained order,[29] and came to be seen as the protector of minority groups in the former German concession.[25]
  • M’ARTHUR OPENS HEADQUARTERS IN YOKOHAMA; FREED PRISONERS CHARGE BRUTALITY BY FOE (8/31/45)

    08/31/2015 7:23:46 AM PDT · 12 of 46
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    Tokyo: Horrific details of atrocities carried out by Japanese doctors are emerging as Allied PoWs are released. Prisoners have been subjected to vivisection. Others have been used as human guinea-pigs and injected with acid, inoculated with fatal diseases or frozen at -20°C.

    Eight US airmen shot down after B-29 raids in May died in vivisection experiments carried out by Professor Fukujiro at Kyushu university. One PoW’s stomach was removed, and an artery cut to see how long before he died.

    Many of the atrocities have been at Japan’s top-secret bacteriological warfare Unit 731 at Harbin, in Manchuria. Prisoners were inoculated with anthrax, typhoid and cholera to test germ potency. Others have been boiled or dehydrated to death. Experiments included prolonged exposure to X-rays and prisoners subjected to a pressure chamber where the blood was forced out of their skin as they died in agony.

    PoWs fear that 731’s commander, Shiro Ishii, will escape prosecution in return for turning over germ warfare data to the US. Two released US doctors also revealed today how they were made to prepare lethal acid-based solutions for Japanese doctors to inject into US PoWs at a Tokyo hospital.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shir%C5%8D_Ishii
    Arrested by the US occupation authorities at the end of World War II, Ishii and other Unit 731 leaders were to be thoroughly interrogated by the Soviet authorities.[9] Instead Ishii and his team managed to negotiate and receive immunity in 1946 from war-crimes prosecution before the Tokyo tribunal in exchange for their full disclosure of germ warfare data based on human experimentation. Although the Soviet Russian authorities wished the prosecutions to take place, the United States objected after the reports of the investigating US microbiologists. Among these was Dr. Edwin Hill (Chief of Fort Detrick), whose report stated that the information was “absolutely invaluable”, it “could never have been obtained in the United States because of scruples attached to experiments on humans”, and “the information was obtained fairly cheaply”.[9] On 6 May 1947, Douglas MacArthur wrote to Washington that “additional data, possibly some statements from Ishii probably can be obtained by informing Japanese involved that information will be retained in intelligence channels and will not be employed as ‘War Crimes’ evidence.”[10] The deal was concluded in 1948.[citation needed] In this way Ishii was never prosecuted for any war crimes.

  • M’ARTHUR IN JAPAN; YOKOSUKA IS TAKEN; ARMY, NAVY REPORT ON PEARL HARBOR (8/30/45)

    08/30/2015 8:56:14 AM PDT · 32 of 65
    PeterPrinciple to God luvs America

    An interesting review here.

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/4742-pearl-harbor-scapegoating-kimmel-and-short

    When Admiral Husband Kimmel was summoned, he brought a fellow officer to act as counsel. Justice Roberts disallowed this on grounds that the investigation was not a trial, and the admiral not a defendant. Because Kimmel and General Walter Short (pictured) were not formally “on trial,” they were also denied all traditional rights of defendants: to ask questions and cross-examine witnesses. Kimmel was also shocked that the proceeding’s stenographers — one a teenager, the other with almost no court experience — omitted much of his testimony and left other parts badly garbled. Permission to correct the errors — other than adding footnotes to the end of the commission’s report — was refused.
    .......
    Roberts brought a final copy of the report to FDR. The president read it and delightedly tossed it to a secretary, saying, “Give that in full to the papers for their Sunday editions.” America’s outrage now fell on Kimmel and Short. They were traitors, it was said; they should be shot! The two were inundated with hate mail and death threats. The press, with its ageless capacity to manufacture villains, stretched the commission’s slurs. Even the wives of the commanders were subject to vicious canards.

    .......
    However, on May 25, 1999, the U.S. Senate approved a resolution that Kimmel and Short had performed their duties “competently and professionally” and that our losses at Pearl Harbor were “not the result of dereliction of duty.” “They were denied vital intelligence that was available in Washington,” said Senator William V. Roth Jr. (R-Del.). Strom Thurmond (R-S.C.) called Kimmel and Short “the two final victims of Pearl Harbor.”

  • M’ARTHUR IN JAPAN; YOKOSUKA IS TAKEN; ARMY, NAVY REPORT ON PEARL HARBOR (8/30/45)

    08/30/2015 8:47:54 AM PDT · 30 of 65
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    During one of his trips into the towns, Plataz said an older woman and several small children approached him with an object wrapped in Japanese newspaper. Afraid it might be a bomb, he said he gestured for the woman to unwrap the package, which she did, revealing a glass case with two colorfully costumed Japanese dolls.


    Memories are still very fresh of prior surrenders.

  • M’ARTHUR STARTS TRIP TO JAPAN AS HALSEY SAILS INTO TOKYO BAY (8/29/45)

    08/29/2015 9:03:18 AM PDT · 12 of 31
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    A little background here on the confusion of surrender for General Wainwright:
    http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/5-2/5-2_32.htm

    General Wainwright’s Orders

    Unlike General King, who had been forced to violate his instructions and keep from his superior any knowledge of his decision to surrender the Luzon Force, Wainwright was able to make his decision unhindered by restrictions from higher headquarters. He had not always had this freedom of action. Until 9 April he had been bound, as had General MacArthur before him, by President Roosevelt’s order “to fight as long as there remains any possibility of resistance.”1 On that day, the day of General King’s surrender, the President modified this order and gave General Wainwright full authority to act on his own judgment.

    The decision to change Wainwright’s instructions had been initiated in Washington just before the surrender of Bataan. Alerted by reports from MacArthur and Wainwright, Maj. Gen. Joseph T. McNarney, acting in Marshall’s absence, had informed the President on 8 April (Washington time) that the situation on Bataan was extremely serious and the collapse of its defense imminent. Reminding President Roosevelt of his instructions to MacArthur, “issued at a time when it appeared necessary to make very clear . . . the nature of the defense expected,” McNarney suggested that the President might wish now to modify these instructions. “It is possible,” he wrote, “that in the literal execution of these orders General Wainwright may be tempted to carry them through to an illogical extreme. I think there should be no doubt that his resolution and sense of duty will preclude any untoward or precipitous action, but on the other hand, it is possible that greater latitude in the final decision should be allowed him.”2

    President Roosevelt accepted McNarney’s suggestion readily, and that same day, 8 April-the 9th, Philippine time-approved the text of a message for Wainwright modifying his earlier instructions. Explaining that he was changing his orders “because of the state to which your forces have been reduced by circumstances over which you have had no control,” the President told Wainwright that he was free to make “any decision affecting the future of the Bataan garrison.” “I . . . have every confidence,” the President wrote, “that whatever decision you may sooner or later be forced to make will be dictated only by the best interests of your country and your magnificent troops.”3

    Roosevelt’s message to Wainwright was not sent directly to Corregidor but went instead to General MacArthur in Australia with instructions that it be forwarded to Corregidor if he, MacArthur, concurred “both as to substance and timing.”4 The message reached MacArthur at about the same time as Wainwright’s dispatch carrying the news that Bataan had surrendered. Since, in his view, “the action taken on Bataan anticipated the authority conveyed in the message,” he saw no need to change Wainwright’s instructions.5 In effect, this was a “non-concurrence” of the President’s message to Wainwright, which remained on his desk.

    But the progress of events had already invalidated MacArthur’s decision. The President, on hearing news of the surrender of Bataan and before receiving MacArthur’s reply, apparently decided that Wainwright needed assurance of support immediately and he sent him the text of his message, including the instructions given MacArthur, from whom, he explained, no reply had yet been received. “Whatever decision you have made,” Roosevelt told Wainwright, “has been dictated by the best interests of your troops and of the country.” He then went on to express the hope that Wainwright would be able to hold Corregidor, but assured him “of complete freedom of action” and “full confidence” in any decision he might be forced to make.6

    General Wainwright received the message on 10 April and sent an immediate acknowledgment expressing his understanding of the change in instructions as well as “heartfelt gratitude” for the President’s confidence in his judgment. At the same time, he informed MacArthur of the President’s message to him and of his reply.7

    Wainwright waited in vain for a response from MacArthur. Although his new orders had come directly from the President, he was aware that initially they had been sent to his immediate superior for approval. That approval had never been given, and Wainwright was understandably anxious to have it. On 13 April, therefore, he raised the subject again in a message to MacArthur. The President, he reminded MacArthur, had stated in his original dispatch that it was to be forwarded if he, MacArthur, concurred. Since he had not yet heard from MacArthur on the subject, Wainwright wrote, he could not avoid the conclusion that MacArthur did not approve of the new orders. The President, Wainwright asserted, “appears to leave to my discretion the decision which I must ultimately make. ... If I am not correct in this assumption I hope you will so advise me.”8

    General MacArthur’s reply left no doubt that he considered Wainwright free now to make his own decisions. He explained why he had not transmitted the original dispatch, and then went on to say that the President’s later message “came direct to you . . . and now gives you complete authority to use your own judgment.”9 MacArthur’s reply put an end to the correspondence on Wainwright’s instructions. The final decision was his, and three weeks later, when he decided to surrender, he did so entirely on his own responsibility.

  • M’ARTHUR STARTS TRIP TO JAPAN AS HALSEY SAILS INTO TOKYO BAY (8/29/45)

    08/29/2015 8:47:23 AM PDT · 11 of 31
    PeterPrinciple to PeterPrinciple

    A good review of Wainright and MacArther

    http://homeofheroes.com/brotherhood/generals_2.html

  • M’ARTHUR STARTS TRIP TO JAPAN AS HALSEY SAILS INTO TOKYO BAY (8/29/45)

    08/29/2015 8:43:54 AM PDT · 10 of 31
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    “General, the only thing I want right now is command of a corp.” Wainwright said huskily.


    http://military.wikia.com/wiki/Jonathan_M._Wainwright_(general)

    Post-War years and retirement

    On September 5, 1945, shortly after the Japanese surrender, Wainwright received his fourth star. On September 13, a ticker-tape parade in New York City was held in his honor. Upon returning to the United States, he was assigned as commander of Second Service Command and the Eastern Defense Command at Fort Jay, Governors Island, New York. In January 1946, he became the commander of the Fourth Army at Fort Sam Houston, Texas where he retired in August 1947. He became a Freemason in May 1946 at Union Lodge No. 7. in Junction City Kansas and a Shriner soon after.[5][6][7][8][9] Wainwright was also a Hereditary Companion of the Military Order of the Loyal Legion of the United States by right of his grandfather’s service in the Union Navy during the Civil War.

    Wainwright served on the board of directors for several corporations after his retirement. He made himself available to speak before veterans’ groups and filled almost every request to do so. He never felt any bitterness toward MacArthur for his actions in the Philippines or MacArthur’s attempt to deny him the Medal of Honor. In fact, when it appeared that MacArthur might be nominated for president at the 1948 Republican National Convention, Wainwright stood ready to make the nominating speech.[2]

    He died of a stroke at San Antonio, Texas on September 2, 1953. Wainwright was buried in Section 1 of Arlington National Cemetery with a Masonic service and is one of the few people to have had their funeral held in the lower level of the Memorial Amphitheater. He is buried next to his wife and near his parents.

  • FIRST TROOPS LAND IN JAPAN FROM 48 PLANES TO PREPARE WAY FOR VAST INVASION THURSDAY (8/28/45)

    08/28/2015 1:14:28 PM PDT · 28 of 45
    PeterPrinciple to henkster

    A question for you. If we had kept the Enterprise as a museum ship would we have been able to name another active ship the Enterprise?

  • FIRST TROOPS LAND IN JAPAN FROM 48 PLANES TO PREPARE WAY FOR VAST INVASION THURSDAY (8/28/45)

    08/28/2015 9:37:07 AM PDT · 14 of 45
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    Forrestal to Urge Craft (Big E) Be Kept as National Symbol


    http://www.cv6.org/1946/scrap/announce.htm

    This is why, late in 1945, former Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal wrote to the President recommending the preservation of the Enterprise “as a visible symbol of American valor...”. I am sure this still expresses the wish of the Navy. Every effort was made to donate the Enterprise for preservation, first to the State of New York and then to any city willing to undertake the project. New Orleans, San Francisco, Portland and Seattle were offered the ship but all declined and advised the Navy that the high annual maintenance cost, then estimated at $125,000.00, precluded such a transaction. Therefore, in November 1948, Secretary of the Navy John L. Sullivan recommended to the President that the plan to dispose of the Enterprise as a national relic be discontinued and that she be assigned to the Reserve Fleet, thus culminating almost three years of attempts by the Navy to find suitable sponsorship for the Enterprise.

  • FIRST TROOPS LAND IN JAPAN FROM 48 PLANES TO PREPARE WAY FOR VAST INVASION THURSDAY (8/28/45)

    08/28/2015 9:29:58 AM PDT · 13 of 45
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    Colonel Blake and his AACS men, part of a 150 man task force, flew from Okinawa to Atsugi with 24 C-47 aircraft laden with equipment. In order to carry as much equipment as possible, the load was lightened by carrying only enough fuel to reach Atsugi. Although the Japanese had surrendered unconditionally, Blake and his communicators still did not know whether some might still be hostile.


    Only enough fuel to reach Atsugi. Now that is commitment. I would have been nervous on landing...............

  • FIRST TROOPS LAND IN JAPAN FROM 48 PLANES TO PREPARE WAY FOR VAST INVASION THURSDAY (8/28/45)

    08/28/2015 9:27:16 AM PDT · 12 of 45
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    USN underwater demolition teams (UDT) land to check prospective Tokyo Bay landing beaches and ensure that fortification are neutralized.


    Interesting history here:

    http://www.specwarnet.net/americas/UDT.htm

    Most of the UDT Teams were marshalling in California in preparations for the planned invasion of the Japanese homeland when the war ended. Some were sent to Japane to aid in the occupation.

    With Japan’s surrender in August of 1945, the majority of the UDT’s were shut down. There were a couple that continued to operate in the Pacific, helping allied forces occupy Japan and its former conquested lands. UDT-21 was the first American Forces to land on the Japanese homelands and received the first surrender, when Lieutenant Commander Edward Clayton accepted the sword , which was struck by USS Fullman and sunk. There was no loss of life, but as all of their equipment was lost with the ship UDT able did not take part and was sent back to Maui to be broken up and used to help form new UDT’s
    Notes: formed by consolidating several NCDU’s that had been deployed to the South Pacific theatre

    UDT
    21 Activated: October, 1944
    Deactivated:
    History:
    Okinawa invasion while attached to APD-79 USS Bunch and sailed for Japan. UDT-21 landed at Futtsu-misaki on the Japanese homeland island of Honshu on August 29, 1945. This was the first landings on the island by american naval forces and also the first surrender ceremony, with Lieutenant Commander Edward Clayton accepting the sword of a Major in the Coastal Artillery in surrender. He was later made to give it up so as not to steal General MacArthur’s thunder. Following this the Team cleared docks at Yokosuka Naval Base to allow the USS San Diego to dock there for surrender ceremonies

  • FIRST TROOPS LAND IN JAPAN FROM 48 PLANES TO PREPARE WAY FOR VAST INVASION THURSDAY (8/28/45)

    08/28/2015 9:16:18 AM PDT · 11 of 45
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    Martin Bormann, Hitler’s last deputy, who vanished from the Berlin bunker and has not been seen since.


    Not finalized until 1972.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bormann

    Bormann returned with Hitler to the Führerbunker in Berlin on 16 January 1945 as the Red Army approached the city. After Hitler committed suicide, Bormann and others attempted to flee Berlin on 2 May to avoid capture by the Soviets. Bormann probably committed suicide on a bridge near Lehrter station. The body was buried nearby on 8 May 1945, but was not found and confirmed as genuine until 1972. Bormann was tried in absentia by the International Military Tribunal in the Nuremberg trials of 1945 and 1946. He was convicted of war crimes and crimes against humanity and sentenced to death by hanging

    Over the coming years, several organisations, including the CIA and the West German Government, attempted to locate Bormann without success.[103] The West German government in 1964 offered a reward of 100,000 Deutsche Marks for information leading to Bormann’s capture.[104] Sightings were reported at points all over the world, including Australia, Denmark, Italy, and South America.[53][105] In his autobiography, Nazi intelligence officer Reinhard Gehlen claimed that Bormann had been a Soviet spy, and that he had escaped to Moscow.[106] Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal believed that Bormann was living in South America.[107] The West German government declared that its hunt for Bormann was over in 1971.[108]

  • FIRST TROOPS LAND IN JAPAN FROM 48 PLANES TO PREPARE WAY FOR VAST INVASION THURSDAY (8/28/45)

    08/28/2015 8:52:09 AM PDT · 10 of 45
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    ATOM BOMB DID IT, ENEMY PRINCE SAYS
    Premier Adds That Emperor’s “Love of the People’ Also prompted surrender.


    What say the group? Real? Propaganda for Japan? Our Interpretation for the States?

  • Over half of psychology studies fail reproducibility test

    08/27/2015 12:02:51 PM PDT · 13 of 25
    PeterPrinciple to circlecity

    If you can’t replicate results I say if definitely is not. How many psychological “studies” are based on survey data? That’s about as reliable as a Magic 8 Ball.


    You can add education studies to that list.

  • ENVOYS BOARD U.S. SHIP OFF TOKYO AS 1,200 PLANES GUARD BIG FLEET (8/27/45)

    08/27/2015 7:53:07 AM PDT · 11 of 32
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    Heros of Bataan

    The prisoners reported that sometimes Chinese puppets would help them escape and then turn them over to the Japanese, who paid up to 1,000,000 puppet dollars for their recapture.

  • ENVOYS BOARD U.S. SHIP OFF TOKYO AS 1,200 PLANES GUARD BIG FLEET (8/27/45)

    08/27/2015 7:38:38 AM PDT · 10 of 32
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    Photo. Removing guns from bombers after final mission.


    A little early for that isn’t it?

  • ENVOYS BOARD U.S. SHIP OFF TOKYO AS 1,200 PLANES GUARD BIG FLEET (8/27/45)

    08/27/2015 7:29:26 AM PDT · 8 of 32
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    B29s Drop Supplies. Note the number of planes and crewmen lost hin this operation. It was a long process. Worth reading.

    http://user.xmission.com/~tmathews/b29/56years/56years-4508b.html

    27 August 1945 (pg 702)

    MARIANAS:
    XX AF B-29’s begin supplying prisoner-of-war and internee camps in Japan, China, and Korea with medical supplies, food, and clothing. The first supply drop (to Weihsien Camp near Peking, China) is followed by a concentrated effort of 900 sorties in a period of less than a month. 4,470 tons of supplies are dropped to about 63,500 prisoners in 154 camps through the end of September. (Eight B-29’s were lost along with 77 crewmen during this operation. In addition, one B-29 was attacked by Soviet fighters while flying over North Korea and was forced to land).

    (This message exchange tells a lot about the POW missions:)

    A message from Jack Blevins on 16 May 2000 to the e-mail list:

    “My crew flew on two of these. The only one of these that I can remember was the one in which the wooden crates or pallets and the packages were wrapped and placed on in the bomb bays. The wooden pallets ... were attached to parachutes. The prisoners painted POW on top of their barracks and that was our aiming point. The reason I remember this mission was that one of the wooden pallets we released crashed thru the roof of one of the P.O.W. barracks. As far as I remember we never knew what all was in the packages.”

    Jack Blevins

    A response from Bob Goldsworthy:

    “I can tell you what was part of the delivery (POW drop) that went through the barracks roof. Especially if the drop was over Omori POW Camp. It was Cashmere Bouquet soap. At least a case of it crashed through the roof of my barracks about three feet from my head.

    “I thought, what a hell of a thing to live through prison life only to get killed by a case of soap. But the food that was dropped saved lives.”

    Bob Goldsworthy

  • ENVOYS BOARD U.S. SHIP OFF TOKYO AS 1,200 PLANES GUARD BIG FLEET (8/27/45)

    08/27/2015 7:15:32 AM PDT · 7 of 32
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    Britain to receive 1,000s of LST from Pacific. Looks like it was only 113? but that may have been during the war. A very good history of LST at site.


    http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/amphib/lst.htm

    A total of 1,152 LST’s were contracted for in the great naval building program of World War II, but 101 were cancelled in the fall of 1942 because of shifting construction priorities. 0f 1,051 actually constructed, 113 LST’s were transferred to Great Britain under the terms of lend-lease, and four more were turned over to the Greek Navy. Conversions to other ship types with different hull designations accounted for 116.

    The end of World War II left the Navy with a huge inventory of amphibious ships. Hundreds of these were scrapped or sunk, and most of the remaining ships were put in “mothballs” to be preserved for the future. Consequently, construction of LST’s in the immediate post-war years was modest.

    More discussion here. A versatile ship. used for ferrying after the war.

    http://military.wikia.com/wiki/Landing_Ship,_Tank

    Here is a list of LST, many returned to US in 46 and 47 per lend lease rules, (but scrapped)

    http://www.warshipsww2.eu/lode.php?language=E&period=&idtrida=1051

  • U.S. WARSHIPS ENTER BAY BELOW TOKYO WHEN TYPHOONS DELAY OUR LANDINGS (8/26/45)

    08/27/2015 6:46:40 AM PDT · 51 of 51
    PeterPrinciple to chajin

    (later 600 feet).


    I get the impression the 300 ft deep sites got full.......

  • U.S. WARSHIPS ENTER BAY BELOW TOKYO WHEN TYPHOONS DELAY OUR LANDINGS (8/26/45)

    08/26/2015 5:25:13 PM PDT · 48 of 51
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    A very good reference on demobilization

    http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/MacArthur%20Reports/MacArthur%20V1%20Sup/ch5.htm

    In the over-all picture, enormous military risks were involved in landing initially with “token” United States forces. The Japanese mainland was still potentially a colossal armed camp, and there was an obvious military gamble in landing with only two and a half divisions, then confronted by fifty-nine Japanese divisions, thirty-six brigades, and forty-five-odd regiments plus naval and air forces

    One of the most interesting features of the disarmament program was the disclosure of the precarious condition of the Japanese defending forces in the home islands. After Allied victories of Iwo Jima, Okinawa, and the Philippines and the establishment of Allied naval blockade of China, only the troops in Japan were supplied by the homeland. On 31 August 1945 the Japanese reported on hand 1,369,063 rifles and light machine guns with limited ammunition of only 230 rounds per weapon. Records later indicated that actually some 2,468,665 rifles and carbines were received by the Occupation forces and later disposed of. The Japanese reported more artillery ammunition than small arms ammunition. Ammunition for the grenade launcher, often known as the “knee mortar,” was also more plentiful; some 51,000,000 rounds were reported, or an average of 1,794 rounds for each weapon.

    Ammunition and weapons, particularly small arms, could have been hidden easily by rebellious individuals or groups, only to be brought out at some later time in revolt against the Occupation forces. Apparently there were more than a few abortive attempts in that direction, for although the Japanese military commanders appeared to be acting for the most part in good faith in surrendering their arms and equipment, every month of the Occupation disclosed new caches of military supplies. Though the caches usually were not heavily stocked, their very existence was enough to indicate that the chain of Japanese responsibility had broken down somewhere. Thorough reconnaissance and inspection by the Occupation forces brought to light many situations which were resolved before they could become serious problems.44 For example, a check on the police stations in Aomori, Hirosaki, and Sambongi (all towns in Aomori Prefecture) produced some 1,880 rifles, 1,881 bayonets, 18 light machine guns, 505,260 rounds of rifle and machine gun ammunition, 46,980 rounds of blank ammunition, one case of TNT, and 150 military swords. Daily G-2 and CIC reports revealed many instances of smaller caches, sometimes in school compounds. Officials and teachers, when questioned, usually pleaded ignorance, and very often investigation did show that faulty dissemination of instructions had been the root of the trouble.45

    All Japanese ammunition, bulk explosives, and other loaded equipment (ordnance, chemical ammunition, and engineer explosives) were destroyed without delay, with the exception of items desired for technical intelligence purposes. The principal method utilized was dumping into the sea at a depth in excess of 300 feet (later 600 feet).

  • U.S. WARSHIPS ENTER BAY BELOW TOKYO WHEN TYPHOONS DELAY OUR LANDINGS (8/26/45)

    08/26/2015 5:01:32 PM PDT · 47 of 51
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    Occupation Troop Movements

    A very interesting look at the process here:

    http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/MacArthur%20Reports/MacArthur%20V1%20Sup/ch2.htm

    Beginning with a mere handful of men late in August, the Eighth Army moved three corps, seven combat divisions, and supporting service troops into Japan within less than a month. By October a total of 232,379 Eighth Army men were in the country.92 The Sixth Army in its zone of responsibility had an approximately equal number. However, this was the high water mark and already the tide was turning the other way. It was apparent to careful observers that the capitulation of Japan was as comprehensive as it was real. Consequently, General MacArthur’s mid-September estimate that an army of 200,000 would be adequate to garrison the islands was now widely acclaimed.

  • U.S. WARSHIPS ENTER BAY BELOW TOKYO WHEN TYPHOONS DELAY OUR LANDINGS (8/26/45)

    08/26/2015 4:45:12 PM PDT · 46 of 51
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    Didn’t know this:

    http://www.grunt.com/corps/scuttlebutt/marine-corps-stories/facts-about-the-end-of-wwii-in-japan/

    However, if you ask one group of veterans when the war with Japan ended, they would tell you it ended on October 15th, 1945, in Tientsin, China. On that day, the United Sates Marine Corps accepted the surrender of more than 500,000 Japanese troops in mainland China. The majority of these Marines were members of the 1st and 6th Marine Divisions who had just completed the long and bloody campaign on the island of Okinawa.

  • U.S. WARSHIPS ENTER BAY BELOW TOKYO WHEN TYPHOONS DELAY OUR LANDINGS (8/26/45)

    08/26/2015 1:25:25 PM PDT · 32 of 51
    PeterPrinciple to chajin

    Now I must admit that over the bar in our Officers Club tent we had talked about being the first to land in Japan by lowering the gear and making a touch-and-go,


    Full of testosterone and youth.................

  • U.S. WARSHIPS ENTER BAY BELOW TOKYO WHEN TYPHOONS DELAY OUR LANDINGS (8/26/45)

    08/26/2015 8:47:29 AM PDT · 18 of 51
    PeterPrinciple to henkster

    Eli Thomas Reich

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Thomas_Reich

    a highly decorated United States Navy officer and World War II submarine commander — the only one to sink a battleship during the war.

    Shortly after his retirement from the Navy, Reich was named director of the Emergency Energy Allocations Program, which was responsible for the distribution of oil and gasoline during the 1973 oil crisis. Described as a “crusty three-star admiral” by syndicated columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak, Admiral Reich was reported by the columnists to have told staff members:
    “I don’t give a damn for the public image. We’re not here to create an image. We’re to do a job—my way. And that’s the military way.”
    After a short time at the job, Admiral Reich clashed with energy chief William E. Simon, and he left the newly formed Department of Energy.

  • U.S. WARSHIPS ENTER BAY BELOW TOKYO WHEN TYPHOONS DELAY OUR LANDINGS (8/26/45)

    08/26/2015 8:36:34 AM PDT · 17 of 51
    PeterPrinciple to henkster

    The KONGO was, in fact, sinking , and damage control had lost the battle to prolong her life. If any confirmation was needed, it was provided when they heard the Chief DCO had committed suicide in frustration at the failure.


    Fascinating story. Guess I am noticing the suicides this morning, seems like they are everywhere in the Japanese military. Was a movie ever made of this?

  • U.S. WARSHIPS ENTER BAY BELOW TOKYO WHEN TYPHOONS DELAY OUR LANDINGS (8/26/45)

    08/26/2015 8:14:18 AM PDT · 16 of 51
    PeterPrinciple to PeterPrinciple

    Here is a list of Japanese military suicides.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Japanese_military_personnel_who_committed_suicide

    On 14 August 1945, Anami signed the surrender document with the rest of the cabinet, then attempted suicide by seppuku early the next morning. Failing to conduct the ritual properly he had to be dispatched by his brother-in-law.[dubious – discuss][6] His suicide note read: “I—with my death—humbly apologize to the Emperor for the great crime.”[7] This “cryptic” note is open to multiple interpretations.[8]

    Not much reference at the below regarding the Japanese surrender but describes the history and process:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku

  • U.S. WARSHIPS ENTER BAY BELOW TOKYO WHEN TYPHOONS DELAY OUR LANDINGS (8/26/45)

    08/26/2015 7:59:10 AM PDT · 15 of 51
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    Tokyo Reports Suicide Wave Before Palace of Emperor


    There was a strong relationship between the military and suicide. Even as late as 2008 it is still an issue:

    http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/Asia/Story/A1Story20080328-56769.html

    Under pressure, the education ministry in December restored references in history textbooks to note that Okinawans ‘committed group suicides with the involvement by the Japanese military.’

  • U.S. WARSHIPS ENTER BAY BELOW TOKYO WHEN TYPHOONS DELAY OUR LANDINGS (8/26/45)

    08/26/2015 7:43:25 AM PDT · 14 of 51
    PeterPrinciple to henkster

    IT IS COMMUNISM, NOT SOCIALSIM. (a current view)

    http://www.badeagle.com/2008/10/19/its-communism-not-socialism/

    In any case, until people can start understanding that “redistribution of wealth” is Communism, the conservatives and Republicans will never deliver a knock-out punch. Communism is the necessary word here.

  • U.S. WARSHIPS ENTER BAY BELOW TOKYO WHEN TYPHOONS DELAY OUR LANDINGS (8/26/45)

    08/26/2015 7:32:47 AM PDT · 13 of 51
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    Halsay’s Ride in Toykyo


    There rest of the story and it is long and tangled:

    http://www.lrgaf.org/military/hirohito.htm

    Halsey did ride a horse, but he wasn’t Emperor Hirohito’s white stallion, who remained private property of the Emperor. Instead, he rode another horse that was supplied by Major General William Chase, the commander of the First Calvary Regiment. After reviewing the honor guard of the First Calvary Regiment, he mounted the horse and rode slowly around the bivouac area on the outskirts of Tokyo. It was an unscheduled affair, so he didn’t get to use the special saddle. “Please don’t let me alone with this animal,” the Admiral said. Upon dismounting, he grinned and said, “I was never so scared in my life.”

  • U.S. WARSHIPS ENTER BAY BELOW TOKYO WHEN TYPHOONS DELAY OUR LANDINGS (8/26/45)

    08/26/2015 6:36:38 AM PDT · 10 of 51
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    It is socialism not communism.


    Will have to drink more coffee but they seem it seems like nonsense on first read. They even acknowledge Hitler and stalin are socialist but his methods were wrong. They are going to do it right in a slow democratic process..........

  • Anyone notice how Hillary hasn't dropped out of the race?

    08/25/2015 1:44:20 PM PDT · 32 of 74
    PeterPrinciple to Cats Pajamas

    It is like a business in bankruptcy. If you stop you are out of business, but if you keep going, you generate a little cash even though you aren’t making money. Finally the banker says he isn’t going to lend you anymore money and then it is HIS FAULT for putting you out of business.

  • A New Kind of Eternal Life: The Growing Christian Transhumanism Movement

    08/25/2015 1:29:53 PM PDT · 7 of 14
    PeterPrinciple to Sir Gawain

    If transhumanism presents itself as an atheist-only anti-religious club… this would be detrimental to transhumanism as a movement.”


    Yep, he has to twist the truth to get anyone to join his club.

    We are to respond to nonsense prophets like this with, I heard your idea, now what does God say?

  • SURRENDER PLANS DEFERRED 2 DAYS BY TYPHOONS CIRCLING AROUND JAPAN (8/25/45)

    08/25/2015 6:21:23 AM PDT · 15 of 52
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    Submarine Bullhead Lost


    http://www.subsowespac.org/world_war_ii_submarines/uss_bullhead_ss_332.shtml

    Postwar analysis of enemy records indicated that the Bullhead was ambushed by a Japanese Army plane off Bali on August 6, 1945, at 0835 hours. The pilot of a Mitsubishi Ki-51 “Sonia” dropped two sixty-kilogram bombs on the submarine. The pilot claimed two direct hits and said he saw oil and bubbles coming from the area where the submarine had submerged. The Bullhead was the last U. S. submarine lost during World War II.

  • SURRENDER PLANS DEFERRED 2 DAYS BY TYPHOONS CIRCLING AROUND JAPAN (8/25/45)

    08/25/2015 6:18:34 AM PDT · 14 of 52
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    For no apparent reason, John Birch, an American missionary before the war and an Army captain during the war. is killed by the Chinese communists. Birch, a Baptist missionary in China when the war started, was commanding an American Office of Strategic Services team when ordered to halt by Communist troops. A scuffle ensued and Birch was shot dead.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_(missionary)

    On August 25, as Birch was leading a party of Americans, Chinese Nationalists, and Koreans on a mission to reach Allied personnel in a Japanese prison camp, they were stopped by Chinese Communists near Xi’an. Birch was asked to surrender his revolver; he refused and harsh words and insults were exchanged. Birch was shot and killed; a Chinese Nationalist colleague was also shot and wounded but survived. The rest of the party was imprisoned but released shortly. Birch was posthumously awarded the Distinguished Service Medal.

  • SURRENDER PLANS DEFERRED 2 DAYS BY TYPHOONS CIRCLING AROUND JAPAN (8/25/45)

    08/25/2015 6:08:00 AM PDT · 13 of 52
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    major yoshitsugu akamatsu surrenders

    http://www.worldwar2database.com/gallery/wwii1336

    After the Okinawa operation, representatives from Tenth Army tried unsuccessfully to induce the Japanese commander on Aka, 26-year-old Major Yoshitsugu Akamatsu, to surrender. The Japanese soldiers and sailors were not as stubborn, and most of them escaped from the island and surrendered.

    Long read but good general info here on suicide and his role.

    https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/compulsory-mass-suicide-and-the-battle-of-okinawa-by-masaaki-aniya/

    In 2005 sues for libel:

    http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/13809

  • SURRENDER PLANS DEFERRED 2 DAYS BY TYPHOONS CIRCLING AROUND JAPAN (8/25/45)

    08/25/2015 5:38:53 AM PDT · 11 of 52
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson
    Reversible propellers put on the B29

    These were on the back up bomber. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD-74EfZtoo

  • SURRENDER PLANS DEFERRED 2 DAYS BY TYPHOONS CIRCLING AROUND JAPAN (8/25/45)

    08/25/2015 5:31:18 AM PDT · 10 of 52
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    The Army considered the Navy FINISHED because of the possible effects of atomic bombs on ships.

    What did they think would happen to airplanes?

  • SURRENDER PLANS DEFERRED 2 DAYS BY TYPHOONS CIRCLING AROUND JAPAN (8/25/45)

    08/25/2015 5:28:04 AM PDT · 9 of 52
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    Use of Atomic Bombs against Warships proposed as a Test of Fleets Value


    I guess I never thought about why they were tested but below is the concern. We didn’t know much did we. But the metal did become brittle at the test and bombings so it was logical.

    .............There has been speculation concerning whether the atomic bomb, “if dropped in the midst of a fleet at anchor, might cause the bottoms of steel ships to disintegrate and thus sink the entire fleet.....................would like to see such a test conducted against some of our old battleships, for, if the atomic bomb works this way, they want to know it.

  • 7,500 SKY TROOPS TO LAND IN JAPAN WITH M’ARTHUR; SHIP, PLANE RULES IN FORCE (8/24/45)

    08/24/2015 3:27:08 PM PDT · 36 of 45
    PeterPrinciple to chajin

    Typhoon Ursula plane crashes. no info and both references below are pretty detailed.

    1945 civilian crashes listed here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft#1945

    1945[edit]
    January 8 – The China Clipper, a Pan Am Martin M-130 flying boat operating as Flight 161, crashes in Port of Spain, Trinidad, killing all 25 on board.
    January 31 – The Stinson Tokana operated by Australian National Airways crashes, killing all 10 on board. The accident was caused by a fatigue crack in a wing spar.
    July 12 – Eastern Air Lines Flight 45, a Douglas DC-3A, collides with a Douglas A-26 Invader over Florence, South Carolina, United States. One of the 24 on the DC-3 and 1 of the 2 on the A-26 die.
    October 5 – National Airlines Flight 16, a Lockheed L-18 Lodestar, overshoots the runway at Lakeland, Florida, United States, killing 2 of 15 on board.
    November 3 – The prototype Boeing 314, named the Honolulu Clipper, makes an emergency landing in the Pacific 650 miles east of Oahu due to double engine failure; the aircraft is intentionally sunk after salvage was deemed impractical; all 26 passengers on board survive.

    Military crashes listed here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_military_aircraft_(1945%E2%80%9349)

  • 7,500 SKY TROOPS TO LAND IN JAPAN WITH M’ARTHUR; SHIP, PLANE RULES IN FORCE (8/24/45)

  • WHY ARE THERE SO MANY CHURCHES - ANSWERING the Hardline Church of Christ Denomination

    08/24/2015 11:34:58 AM PDT · 60 of 86
    PeterPrinciple to damonw

    A few thoughts:

    1) Jesus came to divide, to separate the sheep from the goats. So if we believe in Gods providence, the reason there are so many churches is because.................

    2) Once he has the sheep sorted out, then begins the oneness. It is very clear that His sheep hear His voice. So the question to each of us is whose voice do we hear? Don’t be too quick in answering that. Work it out with fear and trembling...........................

  • 'Clean food' is a dangerous fad

    08/24/2015 11:23:18 AM PDT · 17 of 52
    PeterPrinciple to Red Badger

    I ingested some industrial strength food the other day. Still alive today.

    http://www.dakotastyle.com/chips.htm

  • 7,500 SKY TROOPS TO LAND IN JAPAN WITH M’ARTHUR; SHIP, PLANE RULES IN FORCE (8/24/45)

    08/24/2015 7:17:10 AM PDT · 24 of 45
    PeterPrinciple to central_va

    Veteran Plunges to His Death. Page 7.


    The following is an interesting read and worthy of reflection:

    https://progressivehistorians.wordpress.com/2007/10/06/ptsd-and-the-myth-of-ww-ii/

    I had an uncle who was a paraplegic from Iwo Jima. He did everything, wheel chair basketball, hunting and fishing, worked jobs, invented a system so he could drive. Life was hard both before and after the war for him, but he was a hero to all the nephews.

    As I get holder I experience some of the symptoms though I was never in the service. Life is hard sometimes but there is no doubt the war had an effect.

    It is a COMPLEX thing. Some got stronger because of battle. In some, battle brought out what existed in their personality. In some cases battle caused it.

    The reference says that only 35% saw battle.

    In WWI many officers behind the line got shell shock. Interesting that in WWI it was thought that exploding shells caused a concussion in the brain, thus the confusion as to cause.

    There are many reports that say that suicide among the military is no different than the rate in civilian population. But because it is military, it gets more attention?

    I do not want to discount this. Reading the above and the images and experiences imprinted on young developing men had to leave a life time effect.

  • 7,500 SKY TROOPS TO LAND IN JAPAN WITH M’ARTHUR; SHIP, PLANE RULES IN FORCE (8/24/45)

    08/24/2015 6:22:55 AM PDT · 22 of 45
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    7,500 Sky Troops.


    I could find no information on that but did find a reference that it was a windy day. Canceled?

  • 7,500 SKY TROOPS TO LAND IN JAPAN WITH M’ARTHUR; SHIP, PLANE RULES IN FORCE (8/24/45)

    08/24/2015 6:10:04 AM PDT · 20 of 45
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    Long but interesting. Surrender or Cease Resistance.

    http://www.psywarrior.com/ICeaseJap.html

  • 7,500 SKY TROOPS TO LAND IN JAPAN WITH M’ARTHUR; SHIP, PLANE RULES IN FORCE (8/24/45)

    08/24/2015 6:02:52 AM PDT · 19 of 45
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    Interesting site. It aint over till its over? which is April 28, 1952?

    https://pacificparatrooper.wordpress.com/tag/japanese-surrenders/

    The logical demands of the surrender were formidable. So many different ceremonies took place across Asia and the entire Pacific. Here we will some that preceded peacefully and others that refused the peace. In actuality, the state of war between the U.S. and Japan did not officially end until the Treaty of San Francisco took effect 28 April, 1952.

  • 7,500 SKY TROOPS TO LAND IN JAPAN WITH M’ARTHUR; SHIP, PLANE RULES IN FORCE (8/24/45)

    08/24/2015 5:54:27 AM PDT · 16 of 45
    PeterPrinciple to Homer_J_Simpson

    7,500 Sky Troops.


    I didn not know about that. Thousands of planes in the air. Troops in the sky. Battle ships in the Harbor.

    Now, THAT IS SHOCK AND AWE