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  • Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    10/25/2016 7:47:43 AM PDT · 380 of 394
    PeterPrinciple to WhatNot

    Can you show me a verse, where God used a long drawn out process to reveal Himself to Paul?

    How about this. God Picked Paul in his mothers womb, in fact he was chosen by God much earlier than that. He let Paul be an expert in God’s plan for many years as a Pharisee. God gets his attention on the Road to Damasus, then God then sends him to an individual to recover his sight. And then God sends him to the Apostles to fill in a lot of what he didn’t know about Jesus. Working out you salvation with fear and trembling was something Paul knew intimately.

    I am sure glad God worked you out instantly and you know EVERTHING that God knows..................

    You alone have not had to experience sanctification.

    I will tell that pride is not a good thing. When you get to heaven you claim you followed the King James Version. I am sure it will get you a special spot.............

  • Eric Braverman Tried to Change the Clinton Foundation. Then He Quit.

    10/25/2016 6:24:58 AM PDT · 11 of 27
    PeterPrinciple to tired&retired

    Doesn’t someone have the inner strength to do what is right in the face of corruption?

    The only example of that I can see these days is Trump. I don’t know how he does it, I couldn’t.

  • Tilting, sinking San Francisco high-rise raises alarm

    10/24/2016 12:02:37 PM PDT · 64 of 75
    PeterPrinciple to DesertRhino

    Did I miss something?

    she is retired...............

  • Is the Jesus of Mormonism the Jesus of the Bible? (James White dialogs with Alma Allred.)

    10/24/2016 7:36:21 AM PDT · 187 of 198
    PeterPrinciple to WENDLE

    I recommend spending very little time on old testament except Leviticus. .

    now wait a minute, Jesus CONSTANTLY quoted the OT, do you not think it would be wise for us to study it also?

    There is some indication he preferred Moses, the prophets and the Psalms?

    Luk 24:44 Then He said, “When I was with you before, I told you that everything written about Me in the law of Moses and the prophets and in the Psalms must be fulfilled.”

    You want to know Jesus, read the OT.

  • Is the Jesus of Mormonism the Jesus of the Bible? (James White dialogs with Alma Allred.)

    10/24/2016 7:21:46 AM PDT · 186 of 198
    PeterPrinciple to .45 Long Colt

    It’s dangerous to try to say any one verse is the gospel, but if I had to pick just one it would be this:

    A good question and worthy of reflection. If you ask people what is the Gospel you will get some common answers (variations of a theme) and some surprising answers(out of the ball park). I would encourage you to do so at every opportunity.

    In Revelation, Jesus tells the churches to “go back to your first love”, or go back to the basics in my words.

    So with that in mind it leads one to the following question, assuming Jesus and his Apostles were preaching the “Good News” what was it? What is the core of the Good News?

    What did John the Baptist preach?

    What did Jesus preach?

    What did the disciples preach?

    What did the Apostles preach?

    And what was the message of the OT prophets?

    and now the big question. WHAT DO WE PREACH TODAY?

    Hint: The message cost them a lot, it cannot be “soft pedaled” (a piano reference)

  • Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    10/22/2016 10:10:48 AM PDT · 267 of 394
    PeterPrinciple to WhatNot

    Hell vs hades

    Will have to do further thought on that. Gods word is never quick and easy.

    My bifocals have been telling of NLT instead of NIV in my discussion with you. I will have to purchase the NIV.

    My first thought for you is not focusing on the FACT that they are different but reflecting on WHY they are different. The richness of God’s word comes out in the discovery process.

    Greek was a NT language so it would not surprise me that a Greek word would be used. But how is the word used? Does the NIV use it in the same context as the whole Bible?

    I have had discussion on FR with “Christians” who are convinced there is no hell. You simple die and that is the end of that. The OT just says people die. So their options are you simply cease to exist or you have eternal life with God.

    The Bible does not say what we think it says and it says a lot that offends our ears.........................

  • Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    10/22/2016 9:48:30 AM PDT · 264 of 394
    PeterPrinciple to WhatNot

    But your point escapes me, please explain.

    Paul changed and was corrected,

    God used a process to reveal his Word. He corrected translations because he is a Living God. Some of the newer translations are better, because of better research. Note I said some.

    He could have done like the tablets but He is a creative God and did it this way. He reveals more to us as individuals each day.

    God is a God of process as well as product.

    “Work out your Salvation with fear and trembling.”

    The above assumes you already have your salvation, not that you have to work to get it.

    Again, thank you for the edification.

  • Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    10/22/2016 9:39:08 AM PDT · 263 of 394
    PeterPrinciple to WhatNot

    The problem is these “scholars” didn’t just update the LANGUAGE. Wherever the KJV said things they didn’t approve of, all the NWO bible translators change the meaning of the text. They did this by adding to or deleting from the preserved word.

    Regarding the use of the word Lord in translations.

    I find the following in searching for the words lord, Lord, and LORD.

    Modern King James - 1,360 times
    KG 7,970 times
    New King James - 7,914
    New Living Translation - 7,920

    One can major in minors and minor in majors. Yes there is a difference. Your number of times argument is meaningless.

    So the question is why?

    God has many names. There is even a difference between, lord, Lord, LORD and LORD,LORD. There is great flavor in the differences, each revealing different attributes about God.

    Here is the Lord, Lord, which is worth of thinking? Why twice?

    Mat_7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
    Mat_7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

    I am still chewing on “whose very name is Jealous”. Now that is something to think about and read the Bible.

    Exo 34:14 You must worship no other gods, for the LORD, whose very name is Jealous, is a God who is jealous about His relationship with you.

    Regarding the Message. I don’t agree with it either but have to trust that whenever Jesus name is used even if wrongly, he can use it for his purposes. I can’t think of the verse off hand, maybe you can help me.

    Again, thank you for the morning edification.

  • Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    10/22/2016 9:04:10 AM PDT · 261 of 394
    PeterPrinciple to WhatNot

    (But again the fact that they had to make the changes, tells me were not dealing with people who were truly serious or really cared about God’s word in the first place.

    Neither did Saul.....................

    Do you get the point?

  • Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    10/22/2016 8:28:40 AM PDT · 259 of 394
    PeterPrinciple to ReaganGeneration2

    Praying “to” is a word to indicate sending prayers toward in hopes she will intercede - it is not worshiping.

    I have “chewed” the question “Who do I pray to, the Father, Jesus, or the Holy Spirit?” I reference the following.

    Mat_6:6 But when you pray, go away by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to your Father in private. Then your Father, who sees everything, will reward you.

    1Pe_1:17 And remember that the heavenly Father to whom you pray has no favorites. He will judge or reward you according to what you do. So you must live in reverent fear of Him during your time as “foreigners in the land.”

    Luk 11:1 Once Jesus was in a certain place praying. As He finished, one of His disciples came to Him and said, “Lord, teach us to pray, just as John taught his disciples.”

    Luk 11:2 Jesus said, “This is how you should pray: “Father, may Your name be kept holy. May Your Kingdom come soon.

    But my big question is why would one pray to Mary or a saint, when God the Father invites you into a direct intimate relationship with Him?

    I repeat the question: Why would one pray to Mary or a saint, when God the Father invites you into a direct intimate relationship with Him?

  • Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    10/22/2016 8:03:16 AM PDT · 258 of 394
    PeterPrinciple to WhatNot

    Post number 108.

    I have argued your points at one time. Being right was more important than getting what I really needed, a relationship with God. Pride is a terrible thing.

    It will take ears to hear, a very common statement of Jesus. But “ears” are not of your own doing but a gift. It is one of the things that will be given, if you ask for it.

    Luk 24:45 Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures.

    Yes, I know it says “mind”, but I will let you do your own due diligence on “ears”.


    10/22/2016 7:50:07 AM PDT · 27 of 28
    PeterPrinciple to wastoute

    I believe the “culture of corruption”, the Mordida, the bribe is the problem. As I said. If you have not lived there you cannot understand how deeply entrenched this is.

    I am acquainted with it as well as in Africa. And sadly, it is here also if we look.

    Again, liberals have compassion, but conservatives do also. The difference is in the response, that was the point I did not make very well.

    One of the tenants of conservatism is understanding the nature of man.

    So what should be our response? Pass a law? Give money?

  • Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    10/22/2016 7:17:59 AM PDT · 256 of 394
    PeterPrinciple to WhatNot

    Regarding your Rev 13:16 reference:

    Of all the things to focus on in that verse (and the ones before and after) , your eyes go to “in” vs “on”?

    Mat 23:24 Blind guides who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!

    This is the essence of Gnosticism and heretics. They have special knowledge and know more than others. But their special knowledge is worthless and only to bring them glory, not to further the Kingdom.

    Let him who has ears, hear..................

    Again, I thank you for the edification this morning.

  • Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    10/22/2016 7:07:41 AM PDT · 255 of 394
    PeterPrinciple to WhatNot

    But just the fact that you tell me it had to be corrected, proves to me the NIV (Not Inspired Version) is NOT God’s Word.

    So God does not correct? God does not discipline?

    Which version of King James is the correct one? Modern King James, New King James, etc.

    Did God correct David, Saul, the disciples and use them?

  • Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    10/22/2016 7:01:12 AM PDT · 254 of 394
    PeterPrinciple to WhatNot

    Regarding your Hosea 11:12 reference and assuming we are willing to learn, here is the King James word reference for the word “rule”.



    A primitive root; to tramp about, that is, ramble (free or disconsolate): - have the dominion, be lord, mourn, rule.
    Total KJV occurrences: 4

    So, we discover there is a lot of flavor to the original word.

    In the big picture, we know that Judah was no better than Israel, but maybe at that moment they were a little better. But we do know that God chose Judah at that moment as His instrument as IMPERFECT and REBELLIOUS as Judah also was.

    Judah was still tramping about, I like that image and sadly, it applies to me too often.

    So again, it is NOT one or the other, but God using both to get us a little closer to His truth. I thank you for the morning edification.

  • Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    10/22/2016 6:31:38 AM PDT · 252 of 394
    PeterPrinciple to WhatNot

    Get off the lesbian/NIV thing, you have been shown that it has been corrected!

    Are you like a liberal, not able to learn, more interested in an agenda than the truth?

    If you are going to constantly refer to this, refer to the correction ALSO. Get the whole truth.


    10/21/2016 11:44:42 AM PDT · 24 of 28
    PeterPrinciple to wastoute

    not have your heart be absolutely crushed

    liberals have a lot of empathy. What is the solution?

  • Does this mysterious piece of aluminium prove UFOs visited Earth 250,000 years ago?

    10/20/2016 10:43:44 AM PDT · 24 of 79
    PeterPrinciple to sten

    if it’s truly 250,000+ years old... that means:
    1. previous civilization was wiped out (very unlikely)
    2. beings visited the planet and left the piece for some reason (very likely)
    3. at some point in time, we develop time travel and the piece was accidentally left in the past (maybe)

    Huh? why would you not believe this is a random act of nature? It is just a common chemical action...........

  • Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    10/19/2016 10:08:43 AM PDT · 113 of 394
    PeterPrinciple to Maudeen

    The main thing is the main thing

    Yes, milk is good, but there is more. Too many Christians live on a diet of milk. They spit up, if you give them solid food.

    1Co 3:1 But I, brothers, could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ.
    1Co 3:2 I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. And even now you are not yet ready,

    I like meat in the diet, but I still drink milk. Even gristle has a lot of flavor if chewed on long enough. I have been chewing on some items in the Bible for multiple years, eventually they begin to taste good. Learning doctrine and who God is worth it. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

    Heb 5:12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. You need milk, not solid food,
    Heb 5:13 for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child.
    Heb 5:14 But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil.

  • Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    10/19/2016 9:33:14 AM PDT · 109 of 394
    PeterPrinciple to WhatNot

    For those of you who actually read a Bible, here is free Bible software.

    I like comparing the different translations and it is easy to do so. Different words have different flavors and comparing gives a broader context.

    For example, some have “forgiveness of sins” and others have “remission of sins” I will let you do your own research as to which is which.

    Remission is an older word, not used a lot excerpt for cancer reference today.

    Read OUTLOUD the following:




    It is not one is correct and the other is not, they both have unique flavors that get us closer to the truth.

    If your cancer is cured, how does your life change? If your cancer is in remission, how does your life change?

  • Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    10/19/2016 9:21:20 AM PDT · 108 of 394
    PeterPrinciple to WhatNot

    Regarding the “lesbian NIV”. It would appear corrections have been made.

    “The 1984 NIV rendering … did not make clear whether homosexual activity per se was being condemned or whether only certain kinds of ‘offensive’ homosexual activity was being condemned.,” said Moo.
    “The updated NIV makes clear that the Greek words here indicate any kind of homosexual activity. The updated NIV also reflects the fact that the key Greek word here refers to males.”
    According to Moo, other verses that were altered due to scholarship and to make the message clearer included Romans 1:26-27 and Leviticus 18:22.

    In Romans 1:26, the verse “even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones,” was changed to, “even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.” While in Leviticus 18:22, the verse “Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman,” was changed to, “Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman.”
    One verse that appears to have been changed dramatically was 1Timothy 1:10, where the word “perverts” from the 1984 NIV was changed to “those practicing homosexuality.”
    “The same key Greek word used in 1 Corinthians 6:9 occurs here also, and so the reason for the change here was the same as the reason for the change in 1 Corinthians 6:9,” said Moo.
    The NIV 2011 version debuted amid controversy, with some Christian groups and individuals criticizing the translation for allegedly having too much “gender inclusive” language, similar to the TNIV translation of the Bible.
    Last year, members of the Southern Baptist Convention and the Committee on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood criticized the edition, saying the 2011 NIV “cannot be considered sufficiently trustworthy in its translation of gender language.”
    According to the Committee on Bible Translation’s website, however, every example of gender inclusive language found in the TNIV was “reconsidered,” especially when compared to the 1984 NIV.
    “Some changes were preserved, some were rescinded in favor of the 1984 rendering, and many were re-worded in a third, still different way,” reads an entry from the CBT website’s Frequently Asked Questions page.
    “All gender decisions for the updated NIV were subjected to rigorous scrutiny in the light of this data to ensure that the words chosen maximize comprehension of the original meaning,” the committee maintains.

  • Maryland Doctor Gets 9 Years in $3.1M Health Care Fraud Scheme

    10/18/2016 6:12:48 PM PDT · 10 of 40
    PeterPrinciple to indcons

    This will stop when the money runs out, not before...........

  • Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    10/18/2016 5:12:07 PM PDT · 29 of 394
    PeterPrinciple to Son-Joshua

    A question not on the list but should be:

    If you are saved, what are you saved from?

  • Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    10/18/2016 5:09:22 PM PDT · 28 of 394
    PeterPrinciple to Brookhaven

    There’s no excuse to be a nation of heretics. But even that is preferable to being a nation of ignoramuses.

    The last sentence in the article. Not sure there is much difference.

  • Six Cultural Trends that Challenge the Modern Evangelizer

    10/18/2016 10:43:01 AM PDT · 15 of 17
    PeterPrinciple to Salvation

    A few questions for those that actually read their Bibles.

    1) Are any of these cultural trends any different than when John preached, Jesus preached, the disciples preached, the apostles including Paul preached? or during the Old Testament?

    2) What did John preach, Jesus preach, the disciples preached and the apostles CONSISTANTLY PREACH? Hint, this was also the main message in the OT.

    3) What did Jesus say to do if they don’t like the message?

    4) What are we suppose to do if they do respond?

    5) What will they do to you if you preach the same message as the Prophets, John, Jesus, the deciples, and the apostles?

  • Obama legacy: Most red tape, regulations ever

    10/13/2016 9:19:22 AM PDT · 3 of 6
    PeterPrinciple to Perseverando

    Does anyone remember the paperwork reduction act under Reagan?

    If Trump would appoint someone who could say no to a lot of bureaucrats, that would be a start.

  • Pence chides woman calling for 'revolution' if Clinton wins

    10/13/2016 5:57:18 AM PDT · 95 of 95
    PeterPrinciple to Timpanagos1

    I am all for uprisings, rebellions, revolutions and other words that start with r.

  • America’s Dairy Farmers Dump 43 Million Gallons of Excess Milk (WSJ Oct. 12, 2016 10:59 a.m. ET)

    10/12/2016 1:16:36 PM PDT · 32 of 61
    PeterPrinciple to griswold3

    Holy Cow! Someone will have the EPA on their case after all milk is a toxic substance according to the agency.

    Not if “lost on truck routes”

  • Serious, who still listens to Glenn Beck?

    10/11/2016 10:35:58 AM PDT · 67 of 92
    PeterPrinciple to Attention Surplus Disorder

    He got them to say “well, I don’t really hate her, I just dislike her policies”. Uh-huh.

    Reminds you of “hate the sin, love the sinner” which is a Gandhi quote.

    But God sees no distinction, both the sin and the sinner go to hell, UNLESS there is repentance.

  • Woman Says Airline Made Her Move Because 2 Pakistani Monks Can’t Sit Next To Female

    10/11/2016 6:44:46 AM PDT · 17 of 35
    PeterPrinciple to TigerClaws

    she would do whatever she had to do to protect women’s rights.

    Not very tolerant of others rights. Neither the monks or the woman.

    We live in a time of “rights”, who is going to win?

  • Woman Says Airline Made Her Move Because 2 Pakistani Monks Can’t Sit Next To Female

    10/11/2016 6:40:01 AM PDT · 16 of 35
    PeterPrinciple to Reily

    There are Pakistani Buddhist Monks. The interesting thing is why choose the word Pakistani instead of Buddhist? Can’t just use the word monk?

  • Andy Stanley Defends Teaching Methods Against Charges His Approach Undermines Scripture

    10/05/2016 6:35:42 PM PDT · 127 of 155
    PeterPrinciple to ealgeone

    He did have the OT which he drew upon.

    The NT is in the OT:

    Luk_24:44 Then He said, “When I was with you before, I told you that everything written about Me in the law of Moses and the prophets and in the Psalms must be fulfilled.”

  • FBI Director: 'We Will Build a Nationwide Database' to Detect Implicit Bias in Policing

    10/04/2016 6:28:09 AM PDT · 74 of 85
    PeterPrinciple to VRW Conspirator

    Technology is never a substitute for good management...............

    but is the first place incompetents go.

  • This is not your country, you whites stole it’ Black activist shuts down host on Fox News

    10/03/2016 10:36:40 AM PDT · 41 of 142
    PeterPrinciple to ColdOne

    My brother worked construction in Montana many years back. One of the locals complained that if it wasn’t for the white man, he would still be riding the plains on his horse.

    My brother had to remind him where horses came from............

  • Air Force Announces It Will Mandate Diversity Quotas In Candidate Pools For Key Positions

    10/03/2016 10:32:41 AM PDT · 33 of 71
    PeterPrinciple to BatGuano

    The quest for excellence will bring diversity as a by product.

    The quest for diversity doesn’t bring excellence as a by product.

  • Ryan on Race Relations: Get Outside Our Comfort Zone, Understand What Others Are Thinking

    10/03/2016 7:49:38 AM PDT · 49 of 51
    PeterPrinciple to Olog-hai

    Ryan’s political prowess has come in part from being his party’s 2012 vice presidential nominee, introducing him to a vast array of wealthy conservative donors with strong ties to Mitt Romney and the Bush family. In addition, he’s benefited from many of those big donors abstaining from financially supporting Trump this year and instead focusing on protecting the House as well as the Senate majority.

    from another article

  • Pope says Jesus won't kick gays out of heaven

    10/03/2016 7:01:21 AM PDT · 113 of 130
    PeterPrinciple to aimhigh

    Jesus certainly will not say, ‘Go away because you are homosexual,’” Francis said.

    But he might say the following to Francis:

    Mat 7:23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

  • Outdoor giant Bass Pro Shops to acquire rival Cabela's for $5.5B

    10/03/2016 6:55:19 AM PDT · 21 of 96
    PeterPrinciple to Trump20162020

    Does anyone remember Herters?

    I used to love reading their catalog. still have one around somewhere.

  • Trump Tax Records Obtained by The Times Reveal He Could Have Avoided Paying Taxes [more]

    10/01/2016 6:54:32 PM PDT · 26 of 195
    PeterPrinciple to The_Media_never_lie

    The three documents arrived by mail at The Times with a postmark indicating they had been sent from New York City. The return address claimed the envelope had been sent from Trump Tower.

  • Evangelist Ray Comfort on Why He Never Leads People in "Sinners Prayer"

    09/30/2016 12:11:29 PM PDT · 8 of 204
    PeterPrinciple to Mr. Douglas

    Is this God’s way of doing things?

    Jesus seems to think so:

    Luk_12:5 But I’ll tell you whom to fear. Fear God, who has the power to kill you and then throw you into hell. Yes, He’s the One to fear.

    God must be just. Mercy is at his discretion, he does not have to be merciful.

    As much as you don’t like it. GOD MUST BE JUST, HE IS HOLY.

    Until one understands what we deserve, we can never fully understand His mercy.

    The very nature of your question states you want to define God because you want to decide what is right and wrong (familiar?), instead of letting him tell you who HE IS.

  • What Happened When New Zealand Got Rid of Government Subsidies for Farmers

    09/30/2016 11:44:58 AM PDT · 96 of 97
    PeterPrinciple to HamiltonJay

    Sorry, but I gotta tell you, federally subsidized crop insurance is not a program I would ever contemplate getting rid of.

    When you take the risk out of farming, what happens?

  • What Happened When New Zealand Got Rid of Government Subsidies for Farmers

    09/30/2016 11:43:50 AM PDT · 95 of 97
    PeterPrinciple to Tolerance Sucks Rocks

    Lets go back to the basics. What is the proper role of government in agriculture? What were the original goals?

    Do not get detracted by mission creep and details.

    We are not completely anti government or anarchists are we? So what should be the proper role?

    Hint. The USDA became a major player in the 30’s.

    Hint. Currently, if we don’t use the last of the old crop , the day before the new crop comes in, we screwed up.

  • Man electrocuted while trying to steal booby trapped Trump sign (video included)

    09/30/2016 9:40:43 AM PDT · 70 of 72
    PeterPrinciple to Ken H

    Electric Fence History. For those that don’t know, the pulse or click is the safety factor that allows one to let go of the fence. Note the reference to specific laws that might still be on the books................

    First published in 1832, Chapter 7 of Domestic Manners of the Americans by Fanny Trollope describes an arrangement of wires connected with an electrical machine used to protect a display called “Dorfeuille’s Hell” in the Western Museum of natural history in Cincinnati,[1] which she herself invented.[2]

    Published in 1870, Chapter 22 of Jules Verne’s 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, describes, “The Lightning Bolts of Captain Nemo” the use of electrification of a structure as a defensive weapon.

    Published in 1889, Mark Twain’s novel A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court, uses an electric fence for defensive purposes.

    David H. Wilson obtained United States Patent 343,939 in 1886, combining protection, an alarm bell, and telephone communications. He constructed an experimental 30-mile electric fence energized by a water wheel in Texas in 1888, but it was not successful.[3]

    In 1905, the Russian army improvised electric fences during the Russo-Japanese War at Port Arthur. In 1915, during World War I, the German army installed the “Wire of Death”, an electrified fences along the border between Belgium and the Netherlands [4] to prevent unauthorized movement of people across the border. The fences covered 300 kilometres and consisted of several strands of copper wire, backed with barbed wire, and energized to several thousand volts. An estimated 3,000 human fatalities were caused by the fence, as well as the destruction of livestock.
    Electric fences were used to control livestock in the United States in the early 1930s, and electric fencing technology developed in both the United States and New Zealand.

    An early application of the electric fence for livestock control was developed in 1936–1937 by New Zealand inventor Bill Gallagher. Built from a car ignition trembler coil set, Gallagher used the device to keep his horse from scratching itself against his car. Gallagher later started the Gallagher Group to improve and market the design.[5] In 1962, another New Zealand inventor, Doug Phillips, invented the non-shortable electric fence based on capacitor discharge.[6] This significantly increased the range an electric fence could be used from a few hundred metres to 35 km (~20 miles), and reduced the cost of fencing by more than 80%.[7] The non-shortable electric fence was patented by Phillips and by 1964 was manufactured by Plastic Products, a New Zealand firm, under the name “Waikato Electric Fence.”[7] This idea was to replace ceramic with plastic insulators. A variety of plastic insulators are now used on farms throughout the world today.

    By 1939, public safety concerns in the United States prompted Underwriters’ Laboratories to publish a bulletin on electric shock from electric fences, leading to the ANSI/UL standard No. 69 for electric fence controllers.[8]
    In 1969 Robert B. Cox, a farmer in Adams County, Iowa, invented an improved electric fence bracket and was issued United States Patent No. 3,516,643 on June 23, 1970. This bracket improved electric fences by keeping the wire high enough above the ground and far enough away from the fence to permit grass and weeds growing beneath the wire to be mowed. The brackets attached to the posts by what may be called a “pivot bind” or “torsion-lock.” The weight of the bracket, the attached insulator and the electric wire attached to the insulator bind the bracket to the post.
    Electric fences have improved significantly over the years. Improvements include:

    Polyethylene insulators replacing porcelain insulators, beginning in the 1960s. Polyethylene is much cheaper than porcelain and is less breakable.

    Improvements in electrical design of the fence energizer, often called a “charger” (USA) or “fencer” (UK).
    Changes in laws. In some jurisdictions, certain types of electrical outputs for fences were unlawful until the 1950s or 1960s.

    In other areas, signage requirements and other restrictions limited usability. Many US cities continue to have outdated laws prohibiting electric fences to prevent agricultural fences from entering the city. Houston in Texas for example, changed their ordinance that prohibited electric fencing in 2008.[9]

    Introduction of high tensile (HT) steel fence wire in the 1970s in New Zealand and in the 1980s in the United States.
    Introduction of synthetic webbing and rope-like fencing materials woven with fine conducting wires.

    Design of moveable fence components, such as Tumblewheel.

  • Man electrocuted while trying to steal booby trapped Trump sign (video included)

    09/30/2016 9:26:11 AM PDT · 68 of 72
    PeterPrinciple to smalltownslick

    Two men were electrocuted, one critically.”

    Reminds me of a safety speech I hear once that began, “Have any of you ever had a fatal accident?”

  • Obama handing The Peoples’ Internet to Communist China

    09/30/2016 9:05:37 AM PDT · 11 of 65
    PeterPrinciple to marktwain

    He said it is a big fuss about nothing.

    Then why do it?

  • A Picture of the Spiritual Life from Job

    09/30/2016 8:53:47 AM PDT · 3 of 3
    PeterPrinciple to Salvation

    Job 1:12 “All right, you may test him,” the LORD said to Satan. “Do whatever you want with everything he possesses, but don’t harm him physically.” So Satan left the LORD’s presence.

    Notice the word “test”. God was testing Job, Satan was tempting him. What’s the difference, testing and tempting look the same.

    I don’t think the emphasis of Job and Jacob is wrestling and arguing with God. Behind this is testing. What is the purpose of a test?

  • What Happened When New Zealand Got Rid of Government Subsidies for Farmers

    09/29/2016 7:40:01 PM PDT · 91 of 97
    PeterPrinciple to wardaddy

    Average poster here has no idea how much tax cash is paid to farmers not to grow or cultivate land

    much much less than that paid to people not to work............

  • The New Orthodox-Catholic Agreement is a Landmark – but There’s a Long Way to Go

    09/29/2016 7:27:32 PM PDT · 53 of 170
    PeterPrinciple to CTrent1564

    serving Mary in this context is always a instrument to serve Christ, who is who Mary leads us towards.

    Yet Jesus teaches us to pray directly to the Father....................

  • Human species 'may split in two'

    09/28/2016 12:10:40 PM PDT · 58 of 78
    PeterPrinciple to Ray76

    Evolutionary theorist Oliver Curry of the London School of Economics


  • Transgender Bathrooms?

    09/28/2016 8:52:44 AM PDT · 26 of 26
    PeterPrinciple to cloudmountain

    So WHAT is the “official position” of which Protestant denomination about homosexual marriage?

    For example, the issue of homosexuality comes up at EVERY conference in the Methodist Church and is voted down. Yet there are strong proponents for homer sexuality through out the Methodist church and they are not disciplined or purged, they are tolerated. Now are you going to believe what they say, or what they do is what they really believe?

    The RC and all the churches have the same problem. But there is the beginning of some discipline which is encouraging. Do I like being disciplined? No. Is it good for me? If God loves me, he will discipline me.