Posts by Kolokotronis

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  • Prayer Request

    08/08/2016 11:28:29 AM PDT · 8 of 27
    Kolokotronis to US Navy Vet; tbw2

    You’ve got the prayers! But in the meantime, tbw2 is right on the money. Under the ADA, your employer has to make reasonable accommodations for your disability. Follow that advice and go see HR.

  • Feds Arrest NC Man for Allegedly Trying to Organize ISIS-Inspired Attacks in US

    08/07/2016 9:53:02 AM PDT · 13 of 14
    Kolokotronis to dp0622

    Our people still use that phrase with each other... and no one else!

  • Feds Arrest NC Man for Allegedly Trying to Organize ISIS-Inspired Attacks in US

    08/07/2016 5:27:13 AM PDT · 11 of 14
    Kolokotronis to dp0622
    Μια Φάτσα Μια Ράτσα!


    Una Faccia Una Razza!

  • Trump backs off false Iran video claim

    08/05/2016 6:05:19 AM PDT · 14 of 17
    Kolokotronis to ToxicMich

    When will Trump back off of his endorsement of the Mohammaden dog Erdogan?

  • The Russian Church increased by 5,000 churches and 10,000 clerics over the last six years

    08/03/2016 3:18:13 PM PDT · 28 of 35
    Kolokotronis to fishtank

    What in God’s name makes you think the Church of Greece is dead?

  • Greece: Anarchists Raid Cathedral- 26 Arrested

    08/02/2016 3:39:37 PM PDT · 7 of 8
    Kolokotronis to ebb tide

    Maybe but I sincerely doubt they are Mohammadens. They likely would have been killed “while escaping”. I suspect they are secularist/atheist anarchists. Europe is full of them.

  • Greece: Anarchists Raid Cathedral- 26 Arrested

    08/02/2016 3:10:34 PM PDT · 4 of 8
    Kolokotronis to NRx

    There is a strain of anti-Orthodoxy in the Greek left and there has been at least since the civil war after WW II. Then the communists came to my maternal village, took babies from their mothers’ breats and smashed their heads on the rocks around the town square. They proceeded to hang 20-30 people from the limbs of the trees there and then ransacked the 900 year old church, gouging the eyes out of the Saints in the icons written on the walls and ceiling.

    These anarchists are the political heirs of those communists.

  • Pope Institutes Commission to Study Women and the Diaconate

    08/02/2016 10:22:55 AM PDT · 26 of 26
    Kolokotronis to marshmallow

    “Are “converts from protestantism” some sort of lower caste in the Orthodox Church? Unreliable? Not to be trusted? Over zealous?”

    Some, yes; in fact, many are though not all. Some of the worst are from liberal protestantism, or in point of fact Latin Catholicism, who convert because of their former group or church’s political positions.

    There are, as I have pointed out, diaconesses in Greece. In fact, the Church of Greece approved the official, church-wide reestablishment of the order in 2004, I believe; but not in any liturgical role.

  • Pope Institutes Commission to Study Women and the Diaconate

    08/02/2016 8:54:01 AM PDT · 21 of 26
    Kolokotronis to marshmallow

    Take the proclamations of the site you linked to with several pounds of salt. It is a very, very, very Western site run by converts from protestantism. The article in question is simply wrong and out of date. I also note that most of it is lifted from a college paper written by another convert from protestantism!

    As for the office being essentially non-existent, that is likewise simply wrong. As I said earlier, I’ve met one; There is a deaconess in the monastery outside my maternal village down in Greece (I have never met her but I have seen her at vespers at the monastery). I have a cousin who is a nun at that monastery and she speaks highly of her.

    I am not suggesting for a moment that you folks should have deaconesses. It is 100% your call. If what you get is what we have, I assure you it’s not a problem, but given the culture of the Latin Church and Western society, that may well not be possible.

  • Pope Institutes Commission to Study Women and the Diaconate

    08/02/2016 8:40:14 AM PDT · 20 of 26
    Kolokotronis to Claud

    “I suspect though, that that won’t happen because the people involved know that the Eastern example won’t provide them what they really want: ordination to the priesthood and the episcopacy.”

    I suspect you are right. The mindsets of the Latin and Eastern Churches are sooooooo different. I don’t envy you folks potentially ending up with a bunch of “priestesses” the like of which we have all seen on line over the past few years. Shrill, dramatic, too holy for words, like our convert priests who are oh so much more holy than us “cradle” types and who carry with them a “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God” phronema!

  • Pope Institutes Commission to Study Women and the Diaconate

    08/02/2016 8:07:58 AM PDT · 17 of 26
    Kolokotronis to Claud

    “Why are learned Eastern hierarchs not on the commission? Why are Orthodox deaconesses not on the commission?”

    Likely because this is your discipline, your praxis, your tradition and your call. You know, it’s not much of an issue with us and whether you folks reintroduce the order or not really is up to you. Our feelings won’t be hurt either way.

  • Pope Institutes Commission to Study Women and the Diaconate

    08/02/2016 8:00:22 AM PDT · 16 of 26
    Kolokotronis to marshmallow

    “Call us when the Orthodox put vestments on women and invite them into the sanctuary. “

    They actually do have their own, unique vestments and do administer sacraments, unction and baptism for example and maybe others but they do not go into the altar so far as I know and likely haven’t for hundreds of years.

  • Pope Institutes Commission to Study Women and the Diaconate

    08/02/2016 7:02:17 AM PDT · 9 of 26
    Kolokotronis to maryz

    What they do not have is a liturgical role, though I suspect that is just the way the tradition developed after the fall of Constantinople. Now deaconesses work in monasteries, hospitals and some rural areas where there are no priests. Earlier, say when +John Chrysostomos was Patriarch, there were hundreds of female deacons in The City alone and they did have a liturgical role, or so some of the records seem to indicate.

  • Pope Institutes Commission to Study Women and the Diaconate

    08/02/2016 6:35:33 AM PDT · 3 of 26
    Kolokotronis to marshmallow

    The Russian Church has always had deaconesses, so far as I know. The order was officially restored in Greece in 2004, though deaconesses had served for centuries in monasteries. I think there are some in other Balkan countries. I met one from Roumania once.

    The role of deaconesses in the Liturgy died out hundreds of years ago, I expect as a result of the Mohammedan conquest of The Empire.

    I honestly don’t think this is anything to be afraid of. I mean, we Orthodox are hardly what you would call innovators and I assure you the Orthodox Church hasn’t collapsed because of deaconesses.

  • The Doctrine of the Twelve Apostles: the Didaché

    08/01/2016 12:19:28 PM PDT · 40 of 41
    Kolokotronis to daniel1212

    Lest there be any misunderstanding, I am Orthodox, not a Latin Catholic and we DO fast on Wednesdays and Fridays!

  • The Doctrine of the Twelve Apostles: the Didaché

    07/31/2016 4:25:42 AM PDT · 23 of 41
    Kolokotronis to NYer; boatbums

    You know, it never occurred to me to question the authenticity of what we call the Didache beyond the obvious understanding that copyists often made mistakes, though far fewer than translators. The Bible used in the West is a classic example of that.

    The Didache we read today is in fact consistent with the quotes from it and principles cited by the Fathers going back at least to St. Irenaeus of Lyon which is a pretty good indication of the accuracy of our copy. At base, though, I suppose we accept it because, like the OT and the NT, The Church does.

  • The Doctrine of the Twelve Apostles: the Didaché

    07/30/2016 2:43:51 PM PDT · 20 of 41
    Kolokotronis to Fester Chugabrew
    Πολλη here means "many".
  • The Doctrine of the Twelve Apostles: the Didaché

    07/30/2016 2:40:18 PM PDT · 19 of 41
    Kolokotronis to NYer

    When I was a boy, Orthodox “catechism “ was part of Greek school. The first theology we were taught was from the Didache.

  • Alert: U.S. Base in Turkey Under Siege.....

    07/30/2016 12:29:53 PM PDT · 34 of 43
    Kolokotronis to Logical me

    ” Trump for President.”

    He is publicly praising Erdogan! Is that what America wants? Will praising a Mohammaden dog “Make America Great Again”?

  • Alert: U.S. Base in Turkey Under Siege.....

    07/30/2016 12:24:26 PM PDT · 32 of 43
    Kolokotronis to Randall_S

    Obama in cahoots with Erdogan!? It FR’s man Trump who has come out praising the Mohammaden dog Erdogan’s dealing with the fake coup!

  • North Carolina voter ID law overturned for ‘racially discriminatory intent’

    07/30/2016 4:31:06 AM PDT · 41 of 43
    Kolokotronis to Red in Blue PA

    Try reading the unanimous decision. It is correctly decided. The 4th Circuit is generally viewed as a conservative one, but not so conservative that it would buy into what the No. Carolina legislature tried to pull.

  • Pope Scraps Official Discourse to Polish Bishops in Favour of Private Meeting

    07/28/2016 8:14:33 AM PDT · 39 of 41
    Kolokotronis to marshmallow

    “So permitting Communion for those living in ongoing adulterous relationships would be an example of economia and something which the Orthodox would happily (perhaps already do) embrace? “

    I have never seen that; in fact I have seen communion refused to people living in an ongoing adulterous relationship, so I don’t think that would be a subject of economia but I suppose a hierarch could do that, though he’d probably find himself without his crown soon enough.

  • Pope Scraps Official Discourse to Polish Bishops in Favour of Private Meeting

    07/28/2016 7:11:14 AM PDT · 37 of 41
    Kolokotronis to marshmallow
    "OK, let's start with economia.

    Explain to us a little more about economia."

    Sorry for the delay in getting back to you....It's just too beautiful at the pond this time of year to spend time on the internet and in any case, the cottage is pretty much a computer free zone!

    One of the first things to understand about Orthodoxy is that we take very seriously, fundamentally if you will, St. John Chrysostomos instruction that "The Church is a hospital, and not a courtroom, for souls. She does not condemn on behalf of sins, but grants remission of sins." Economia is, in part, a result of that concept of The Church.

    Pat. Bartholomeus, when he was still a Metropolitan, observed various synodal attempts to define "economia" with any precision will fail "because economia is something that is rather experienced than described and defined…in the Orthodox Church, in which it is a characteristic and ancient privilege." That has certainly been my personal experience and at my age, I've had plenty of it. Economia is part of living as an Orthodox Christian in a fallen world.

    The foregoing notwithstanding, here is a short but accurate, as far as it can be, discussion of economia from a Roumanian pov:

    "In the Eastern Orthodox and in the teaching of the Church Fathers which undergirds the theology of those Churches, economy or oeconomy (Greek: οικονόμια, economia ) has several meanings.(1) The basic meaning of the word is "handling" or disposition" or "management" of a thing, usually assuming or implying good or prudent handling (as opposed to poor handling) of the matter at hand. As such, the word "economia", and the concept attaching to it, are utilized especially with regard to two types of "handling": (a) divine economia, that is, God's "handling" or "management" of the fallen state of the world and of mankind — the arrangements he made in order to bring about man's salvation after the fall; and (b) what might be termed pastoral economia (or) ecclesiastical economia, that is, the Church's "handling" or "management" of various pastoral and disciplinary questions, problems, and issues that have arisen through the centuries of Church history.

    Referring to the ecclesiastical economia:

    In one sense, it refers to the discretionary power given to the Church by Christ himself, in order to manage and govern the Church. Christ referred to this when he gave the Apostles the authority to "bind and to loose" (Matthew 16:19, 18:18), and this authority in turn was transmitted to the bishops who came after the Apostles.

    In this sense "economia" means, as already noted, "handling", "management", "disposition". In general then, "economia" refers to pastoral handling or discretion or management in a neutral sense.

    But it also can take two specific forms: it can be "exact" ("precise", "strict"), which means the usual or general rule is followed precisely; or it can be "lenient" (a loosening or modification of that usual or general rule). The former is called "economia according to strictness (exactness)" and the latter, "economia according to leniency." Economia according to leniency — a modification in the application of the usual rule — has always been done when, in the judgment of the Church, guided by the Holy Spirit (cf. Acts 15:28, "it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us") this would result in the wider salvation of souls through the extension of God's mercy.

    In later usage of the terms, "economia" came to be used as a synonym for "economia according to leniency" — that is, a deviation from the exactness of the usual rule — often involving a practice that indeed appears more "lenient." At the same time, the newer terminology speaks simply of "exactness" (or "strictness") instead of "economia according to exactness (strictness)". Thus in this more recent use of terms, the dichotomy "economia according to leniency" vs. "economia according to exactness (strictness, preciseness)," is replaced by "economia" versus "strictness" ("exactness", "preciseness"). The norm, the normal case, is called akriveia (preciseness, exactness, strictness, that is, precise or strict adherence to the standards), while its opposite is economia (leniency,).

    It is important to observe that when economia is correctly used and applied (that is, as a modification in the application of the usual rule) such correct application of economia itself is one of the rules. Thus, if one speaks of "bending", "suspending", "dispensing with", "relaxing" the usual rule, one should bear in mind that such descriptions could be misleading, since the correct use of economy is always done in accordance with the rule of Christ, and never contrary to it. This brings up the general principle that in the Church all canons and laws exist in subjection to the rule of Christ — that is to say, His commandments, teachings, and precepts.

    Economia is, therefore, in one sense, a bishop's discretionary power to dispense with the ordinary church discipline, or the strict application of the ordinary rules or "canons", of the Church, as they are called.(2) This is because, while the canons are laws (rules) that governn the Church, their provisions do not always precisely cover every situation that might come up; thus their application may at times need to be modified. Such dispensations are made with a view towards putting the spirit before the letter and helping the cause of the salvation of souls.

    In this understanding, Orthodox Church economia is the suspension of the absolute and strict applications of canon and church regulations in the governing and the life of the Church, without subsequently compromising the dogmatic limitations. The application of economia only takes place through the official church authorities and is only applicable for a particular case.

    The Eastern Orthodox Church intends this concept to have the result that Love, Mercy, and Compassion remain more in control than absolute law."

    Stefan-Ioan Stratul

    Romanian Orthodox church – March 2009

    Like most of Orthodoxy, though, it needs to be lived, not read about. It becomes part of us, as much as our flesh and blood.

    As for +Francis, he looks to some of us as being a hierarch who understands the concept of economia and for the sake of the lives of the faithful and the salvation of their souls, wants to fully embrace +John Chrysostomos' definition of The Church. It's all very Orthodox and not, at least from my pov, Latin. I know I have said this before, but it bears repeating. My wife, a convert, was once asked by the Geronda of the monastery outside my maternal village "What is the difference between the Church in The West and The Church in the East." She replied, "Oh, Mother, that's easy. In the West The Church says 'Do this or you'll go to hell". In the East The Church says 'Do this and you will become like God." That difference alone may explain why "economia" is a concept and a praxis which seems to cause such heartburn in the West.

  • The Rapture – Indisputable Christian Heresy

    07/28/2016 3:58:28 AM PDT · 108 of 865
    Kolokotronis to NRx


  • WSJ Writer [from Iran] Announces Conversion to Catholicism -- honors Fr. Jacques Hamel

    07/27/2016 3:44:39 PM PDT · 19 of 22
    Kolokotronis to Mrs. Don-o

    God bless him! Many Years!

  • The Church of the Archangel Gabriel, Nazareth

    07/26/2016 1:42:35 PM PDT · 3 of 6
    Kolokotronis to NRx

    An Angel of the first rank was sent from heaven to say to the Theotokos: Rejoice! (3) And perceiving You, 0 Lord, taking bodily form, he stood in awe and with his bodiless voice cried aloud to her as follows:

    Rejoice, through whom joy shall shine forth;
    Rejoice, through whom the curse shall vanish.
    Rejoice, fallen Adam’s restoration;
    Rejoice, redemption of Eve’s tears.
    Rejoice, height that is too difficult for human thought to ascend;
    Rejoice, depth that is too strenuous for Angels’ eyes to perceive
    Rejoice, for you are the throne of the King;
    Rejoice, for you hold him Who sustains everything.
    Rejoice, star that shows forth the Sun;
    Rejoice, womb in which God became incarnate.
    Rejoice, through whom creation is renewed;
    Rejoice, through whom the Creator becomes an infant.
    Rejoice, O Bride unwedded.

  • Pope Scraps Official Discourse to Polish Bishops in Favour of Private Meeting

    07/26/2016 1:32:01 PM PDT · 32 of 41
    Kolokotronis to ebb tide
    “So, like Pope Francis with his muslim immigrants, you prefer to ignore another elephant in the room?”

    You believe I am ignoring the schism because I don't call Latins schismatics? I don't see anything constructive coming from calling you folks schismatics.

    “If y'all like these popes so much, why don't you join their Church?”

    I'm happy where I am. I like the Dalai Lama too, but I'm not about to become a Buddhist. I am close to and admire greatly a man who was the Chief Rabbi of Budapest but I'm not about to become Jewish either.

  • Pope Scraps Official Discourse to Polish Bishops in Favour of Private Meeting

    07/26/2016 1:25:01 PM PDT · 31 of 41
    Kolokotronis to marshmallow

    “You? The Greek Orthodox Church? The Russian Orthodox? Orthodoxy in it’s entirety?”

    The three churches I know the most about, Constantinople, Antioch and Greece, have great admiration for +BXVI and +Francis, the former for his theology (one hierarch called him the first”Father of the Church” since the 14th century) and the latter on account of his practice of economia. I know this because of “stuff” that I do and did with those churches.

    I don’t have the contacts with Moscow that I used to have but it appears the MP likes the present pope from what I have read.

    The admiration is genuine, I assure you. I am unaware if anyone in tose churches who takes a sort of perverse joy in the reaction of some to +Francis.

    As for me, the whole concept of economia, and its counterpart akriva, are fundamental to the Orthodox phronema. That phronema is part of our identity, a major part, as Orthodox Christians. I recognize that in +Francis and rejoice in it in much the same way I recognized the patristic theology and rejoiced at the election of +BXVI

  • Pope Scraps Official Discourse to Polish Bishops in Favour of Private Meeting

    07/26/2016 10:29:27 AM PDT · 28 of 41
    Kolokotronis to ebb tide
    "I have made no mention of the Immaculate Conception on this thread."

    Oh, well here's what you said " He has opined that the Blessed Mother, conceived without sin, may have despaired and questioned God." You of course meant some other sort of conception perhaps?

    The practice of the Orthodox Church to give communion to Orthodox Christians who have divorced and remarried with the permission of their bishop is older than the Latin practice to the contrary. As for refusing to give communion to a Latin in a state of grace, that is true. The Latin Church apparently views communion as a means towards unity with the East while we view it as the perfect example of that unity. Until the Latin Church reunites with the Eastern Church, intercommunion, for us, is a lie.

    You make a habit of calling Orthodox Christians "schismatics". You know, I don't think I have ever heard an Orthodox Christian call Latins "schismatics", despite the fact that there is plainly a schism. Do you feel that epithet adds something to the discussion? Given the innovations which have marked the last 1200 years or so of Latin Church theology and ecclesiology, innovations which have had, shall we say, "consequences" for Christianity, I should think you'd want to avoid throwing verbal rocks. Just imagine what Eastern Christian theologians could call you Latins!

    et, you should understand that I couldn't possibly care less what the rules are in the Latin Church. Those are your rules, not ours. I don't sit up nights worrying about the Latin Church or Latin Christians any more than I do about the Eastern Church or Orthodox Christians but I confess that I am concerned when I see the exploding heads on the FR Latin side every time the pope, whom we Orthodox like very much just as we liked BXVI, opens his mouth. I appreciate that you have no way to resolve your issues with this pope; you can't get rid of him the way we can get rid of an errant hierarch. That said, do you honestly think that an unrelenting crusade against this pope on an American conservative website's religion board is going to accomplish anything even remotely positive?

  • Pope Scraps Official Discourse to Polish Bishops in Favour of Private Meeting

    07/26/2016 9:30:07 AM PDT · 20 of 41
    Kolokotronis to ebb tide; Mrs. Don-o
    I think you misunderstood what I was looking for. The original statement said that the pope has been overturning 2000 year old doctrines. The idea of the Immaculate Conception is relatively recent concept. For the overwhelming life of The Church, East or West, her sinless state since conception has been an open question. As for adulterers, well priests, bishop and popes were fathering children with their "live ins" in Western Europe into the 16th century and not even remotely in secret, their vows of celibacy notwithstanding. It's pretty clear that the Latin Church condoned, sub silencio, the reception of communion, indeed the confection of communion, by such priests for rather more than 1000 years. Aside from that, until the Roman Empire completely collapsed in the West, divorce was common as a civil matter. The Church simply had nothing to do with it. Marriage itself, for that matter, was a civil matter. Christians were married and divorced without church consequences because the church simply wasn't involved.

    I understand that the Immaculate Conception is now dogma and that for centuries the Latin Church has not knowingly countenanced communion for divorced and remarried people...but neither of those positions are 2000 years old. Things change, and change back. My point is that the history of The Church in the West, theologically and ecclesiologically, is complex and saying that this pope is trampling on 2000 year old praxis or belief is a stretch to say the least.

  • Pope Scraps Official Discourse to Polish Bishops in Favour of Private Meeting

    07/26/2016 3:53:54 AM PDT · 16 of 41
    Kolokotronis to ebb tide; Mrs. Don-o

    Got a cite for #1? That’s an odd one. #2 was a practice of the early Latin church, up to about the 7th century, much, much later for priests in “irregular” relationships . #3 is roughly consistent with the theology of St. John Chrysostomos. Finally, got a cite for #4?

  • Pope Scraps Official Discourse to Polish Bishops in Favour of Private Meeting

    07/25/2016 2:57:04 PM PDT · 12 of 41
    Kolokotronis to CdMGuy

    I’m curious. Just which of the 2000 years of Latin church practices is this Pope trashing?

  • Turkey and Erdogan: Here Comes the (real) Caliphate

    07/24/2016 2:52:48 PM PDT · 17 of 18
    Kolokotronis to Iron Munro

    Seriously, Google Trump Erdogan and see what it says. If you still want to support Trump and an Ottoman Caliphate, well that’s not such a surprise, sadly, here on FR.

  • BREAKING NEWS: Syrian refugee, 21, hacks woman to death

    07/24/2016 11:00:15 AM PDT · 48 of 61
    Kolokotronis to tet68

    Basically it’s a gyro.

  • Turkey and Erdogan: Here Comes the (real) Caliphate

    07/24/2016 10:56:25 AM PDT · 9 of 18
    Kolokotronis to Iron Munro

    Actually, the one who’s wetting his pants with excitement is the Mohammaden dog Erdogan’s too vocal admirer, Donald Trump!

  • Turkey failed coup: Presidential guard to be disbanded

    07/23/2016 6:58:30 PM PDT · 11 of 30
    Kolokotronis to Terry L Smith

    Trump has publicly proclaimed his admiration for the Mohammaden dog Erdogan within the last week so it seems unlikely that he’ll say anything.

  • Turkey failed coup: Presidential guard to be disbanded

    07/23/2016 6:54:09 PM PDT · 10 of 30
    Kolokotronis to Irish Eyes

    Interview with the NYT, reports in the WaPo. Hurriyet; it’s all over the Net since the phoney coup attempt. Even Walid Shoebat has reported on it. Speaks volumes about Trump.

  • Turkey failed coup: Presidential guard to be disbanded

    07/23/2016 6:36:46 PM PDT · 6 of 30
    Kolokotronis to dfwgator

    Why do you suppose Trump has such admiration for the black Mohammaden dog Erdogan?

  • Spin Of The Year (Possibly the most heretical seminary in the US is going out of business)

    07/23/2016 6:23:40 PM PDT · 27 of 101
    Kolokotronis to NRx


  • Eucharist in the creed?

    07/23/2016 11:59:03 AM PDT · 14 of 667
    Kolokotronis to Tax-chick


  • Eucharist in the creed?

    07/23/2016 9:50:18 AM PDT · 10 of 667
    Kolokotronis to lightman; Salvation; NRx; Honorary Serb

    Beat me to it!

    I did get a kick out of this:

    “Further, since the creed is shared by the Catholic and Orthodox Churches, adding to the ancient creed might harm attempts at unity.”

    “Might”, Msgr. Pope?

  • As Erdoğan moves, a precarious situation for Christians in Turkey

    07/22/2016 11:11:27 AM PDT · 7 of 11
    Kolokotronis to heterosupremacist

    Now that Erdogan has the public admiration and backing of Trump, I expect he will feel free to round up all the Christians in Turkey!

  • US Cardinal [Burke] Says ‘Christian Nations’ in West Must Counter Islamic Influx

    07/21/2016 2:43:58 PM PDT · 4 of 6
    Kolokotronis to piusv

    Burke is a heretic and the weed of heresy always bears bitter fruit!

  • Concern Grows for Christians in Turkey After Failed Coup

    07/21/2016 2:14:00 PM PDT · 10 of 21
    Kolokotronis to marshmallow

    Well, the black Mohammaden dog Erdogan can sleep easy. That man Trump is vocal in his support of the Islamist monster and his policies!

  • Donald Trump Sets Conditions for Defending NATO Allies Against Attack (Praises Erdogan!)

    07/21/2016 7:45:17 AM PDT · 70 of 126
    Kolokotronis to Tax-chick

    Trump and the black dog Erdogan, now there’s a vision for America’s future! Does Trump do this on purpose or is he just a dangerous idiot? He didn’t have to say a darn thing!

  • 5 reasons Mass didn’t bore the saints (Catholic Caucus)

    07/19/2016 2:31:44 PM PDT · 5 of 15
    Kolokotronis to NYer

    The older I have gotten, the more I appreciate and love the Divine Liturgy / Mass. We are indeed surrounded by tens of thousands of angels when we chant the Sanctus. We are no longer on earth, no longer in 2016. We are in heaven and off the timeline. The Saints are there worshipping with us, for me Saints Patrick, Aidan of Lindisfarne and John Chrysostomos, as real as my family around me. There is nothing quite like it. It is a “Thoro tou Theou” a gift of God.

  • ‘Pope’-Endorsed Ecumenical ‘Together 2016’ Unites Christians, Catholics in Nation’s Capitol

    07/18/2016 5:03:49 PM PDT · 14 of 17
    Kolokotronis to marshmallow


  • ‘Pope’-Endorsed Ecumenical ‘Together 2016’ Unites Christians, Catholics in Nation’s Capitol

    07/18/2016 1:13:39 PM PDT · 9 of 17
    Kolokotronis to marshmallow
    "Christians and Catholics!!!!!!!????? I trust you Latins were properly impressed! /s
  • The Template for Restored Unity and peace amongst our various peoples starts first in our churches!

    07/17/2016 2:09:15 PM PDT · 8 of 24
    Kolokotronis to cloudmountain

    Only a few? Sadly, I am or was, familiar with all of them. Of course, I’m the chief among sinners, St. John Chrysostom to the contrary notwithstanding.

  • Methodists elect 1st openly gay bishop in defiance of ban

    07/16/2016 5:35:52 PM PDT · 33 of 88
    Kolokotronis to xzins

    Just go to a liturgy and be done with It!