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  • Missing from Ken Burns’ ‘Vietnam’: The patriotism and pride of those who fought

    09/21/2017 5:40:28 PM PDT · 196 of 217
    kabar to Chainmail
    I've always found it fascinating that Congress didn't mind the enemy's full-time use of Laos and Cambodia as a supply conduit and staging area yet they got all pouty when we attacked them where they were.

    The US political leadership never supported the objective of victory. Unless your very survival is at stake, you have the luxury of limited war. The problem is that our men and women in uniform are sacrificed needlessly and the taxpayer picks up the tab for the costs. Eventually, nations go bankrupt being involved in endless wars that achieve nothing.

  • Missing from Ken Burns’ ‘Vietnam’: The patriotism and pride of those who fought

    09/21/2017 5:34:06 PM PDT · 195 of 217
    kabar to Snickering Hound
    I am having a hard time understanding what your point is. I served a year in Vietnam including during the Tet Offensive. However corrupt the South Vietnamese were, they did not deserve to be invaded and subjugated by the Communists in North Vietnam. They did fight and suffered immense casualties trying to defend their country.

    The US sacrificed great amounts of blood and treasure trying to prevent the takeover by the communists. North Vietnam blatantly violated the Paris Peace Accords, but the US did not fulfill the promises it made to South Vietnam to protect them against these violations. The Democrats in Congress sought a political advantage by becoming the anti-war party after they were the ones (JFK and LBJ) who got us involved in the first place. And the Americans fighting the war, 75% of whom were volunteers like me, were demonized and castigated as killers and war criminals. It took the US military decades to regain its respect and standing in the society.

    The South Vietnamese continued fighting after we left. They were slowly starved of resources and left adrift by the political leadership of this country. We won the war militarily and lost it politically. Korea was a draw, but Vietnam was deemed a loss, the first in our history. We have seen the same thing happening in Iraq and Afghanistan. The sacrifice of our troops is being squandered away again. At some point, it will become difficult to recruit people into the military. As Kerry (the traitor) said, "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"

  • Missing from Ken Burns’ ‘Vietnam’: The patriotism and pride of those who fought

    09/21/2017 4:25:08 PM PDT · 181 of 217
    kabar to Snickering Hound
    January 27, 1973 - The Paris Peace Accords are signed by the U.S., North Vietnam, South Vietnam and the Viet Cong. Under the terms, the U.S. agrees to immediately halt all military activities and withdraw all remaining military personnel within 60 days. The North Vietnamese agree to an immediate cease-fire and the release of all American POWs within 60 days. An estimated 150,000 North Vietnamese soldiers presently in South Vietnam are allowed to remain. Vietnam is still divided. South Vietnam is considered to be one country with two governments, one led by President Thieu, the other led by Viet Cong, pending future reconciliation.

    June 19, 1973 - The U.S. Congress passes the Case-Church Amendment which forbids any further U.S. military involvement in Southeast Asia, effective August 15, 1973. The veto-proof vote is 278-124 in the House and 64-26 in the Senate. The Amendment paves the way for North Vietnam to wage yet another invasion of the South, this time without fear of U.S. bombing.

    December 13, 1974 - North Vietnam violates the Paris peace treaty and tests President Ford's resolve by attacking Phuoc Long Province in South Vietnam. President Ford responds with diplomatic protests but no military force in compliance with the Congressional ban on all U.S. military activity in Southeast Asia.

    July 17, 1973 - Secretary of Defense James Schlesinger testifies before the Armed Forces Committee that 3500 bombing raids were launched into Cambodia to protect American troops by targeting NVA positions. The extent of Nixon's secret bombing campaign angers many in Congress and results in the first call for Nixon's impeachment.

    April 21, 1975 - A bitter, tearful President Thieu resigns during a 90 minute rambling TV speech to the people of South Vietnam. Thieu reads from the letter sent by Nixon in 1972 pledging "severe retaliatory action" if South Vietnam was threatened. Thieu condemns the Paris Peace Accords, Henry Kissinger and the U.S. "The United States has not respected its promises. It is inhumane. It is untrustworthy. It is irresponsible." He is then ushered into exile in Taiwan, aided by the CIA.

  • Missing from Ken Burns’ ‘Vietnam’: The patriotism and pride of those who fought

    09/21/2017 4:19:41 PM PDT · 178 of 217
    kabar to rollo tomasi
    The war was micromanaged by LBJ. The slow escalation of our response allowed the enemy to respond to each escalation. It was another limited war similar to Korea. The North Vietnamese were supported by the Soviets and the Chinese.

    There are many things we could do like bombing the dikes. Operation linebacker I in response to the NVA Eastertide Offensive in 1972 provided a glimpse of what we could do if the shackles were taken off. Victory was never an objective.

    May 8, 1972 - In response to the ongoing NVA Eastertide Offensive, President Nixon announces Operation Linebacker I, the mining of North Vietnam's harbors along with intensified bombing of roads, bridges, and oil facilities. The announcement brings international condemnation of the U.S. and ignites more anti-war protests in America.

    October 22, 1972 - Operation Linebacker I ends. U.S. warplanes flew 40,000 sorties and dropped over 125,000 tons of bombs during the bombing campaign which effectively disrupted North Vietnam's Eastertide Offensive.

    During the failed offensive, the North suffered an estimated 100,000 military casualties and lost half its tanks and artillery. Leader of the offensive, legendary General Vo Nguyen Giap, the victor at Dien Bien Phu, was then quietly ousted in favor of his deputy Gen. Van Tien Dung. 40,000 South Vietnamese soldiers died stopping the offensive, in the heaviest fighting of the entire war.

  • Missing from Ken Burns’ ‘Vietnam’: The patriotism and pride of those who fought

    09/21/2017 4:00:20 PM PDT · 173 of 217
    kabar to Snickering Hound
    After the US left, ARVN got the equipment left behind. They had the 4th largest Air Force in the world. And legendary graft. US aid wasn't cut off but it was reduced from $1 billion to $700 million in 1974. That shouldn't have been enough to cause their collapse in 1975.

    Congress placed a $1 billion ceiling on military aid to South Vietnam for fiscal year 1974. This figure was trimmed further to $700 million by August 11. Military aid to South Vietnam in fiscal year 1973 was $2.8 billion; in 1975 it would be cut to $300 million. Once aid was cut, it took the North Vietnamese only 55 days to defeat the South Vietnamese forces when they launched their final offensive in 1975.

    The biggest failure was not to defend South Vietnam as we promised to do if the North Vietnamese violated the Paris Peace Agreement. The ARVN suffered a total of 254,256 combat deaths.

  • Missing from Ken Burns’ ‘Vietnam’: The patriotism and pride of those who fought

    09/21/2017 3:51:57 PM PDT · 168 of 217
    kabar to rollo tomasi
    January 31, 1968 - The turning point of the war occurs as 84,000 Viet Cong guerrillas aided by NVA troops launch the Tet Offensive attacking a hundred cities and towns throughout South Vietnam.

    February 2, 1968 - President Johnson labels the Tet Offensive "a complete failure."

    For the North Vietnamese, the Tet Offensive is both a military and political failure in Vietnam. The "general uprising" they had hoped to ignite among South Vietnamese peasants against the Saigon government never materialized. Viet Cong had also come out of hiding to do most of the actual fighting, suffered devastating losses, and never regained their former strength. As a result, most of the fighting will be taken over by North Vietnamese regulars fighting a conventional war. Tet's only success, and an unexpected one, was in eroding grassroots support among Americans and in Congress for continuing the war indefinitely.

    April 30, 1969 - U.S. troop levels peak at 543,400. There have been 33,641 Americans killed by now, a total greater than the Korean War.

    August 23, 1972 - The last U.S. combat troops depart Vietnam.

    January 27, 1973 - Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird announces the draft is ended in favor of voluntary enlistment.

    January 27, 1973 - The last American soldier to die in combat in Vietnam, Lt. Col. William B. Nolde, is killed.

    March 29, 1973 - The last remaining American troops withdraw from Vietnam as President Nixon declares "the day we have all worked and prayed for has finally come."

  • Missing from Ken Burns’ ‘Vietnam’: The patriotism and pride of those who fought

    09/21/2017 3:30:17 PM PDT · 150 of 217
    kabar to SMARTY
    When we left there, S Vietnamese in the 10’s of thousands ran to the coast to board the most dangerously unseaworthy craft. They took their lives in their hands to head out into the S China sea to escape the Communists.

    Not really, the South fought on for almost two years after we left.

    August 23, 1972 - The last U.S. combat troops depart Vietnam.

    November 30, 1972 - American troop withdrawal from Vietnam is completed, although there are still 16,000 Army advisors and administrators remaining to assist South Vietnam's military forces.

    January 27, 1973 - The Paris Peace Accords are signed by the U.S., North Vietnam, South Vietnam and the Viet Cong. Under the terms, the U.S. agrees to immediately halt all military activities and withdraw all remaining military personnel within 60 days. The North Vietnamese agree to an immediate cease-fire and the release of all American POWs within 60 days. An estimated 150,000 North Vietnamese soldiers presently in South Vietnam are allowed to remain. Vietnam is still divided. South Vietnam is considered to be one country with two governments, one led by President Thieu, the other led by Viet Cong, pending future reconciliation.

    January 27, 1973 - Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird announces the draft is ended in favor of voluntary enlistment.

    January 27, 1973 - The last American soldier to die in combat in Vietnam, Lt. Col. William B. Nolde, is killed.

    April 1973 - President Nixon and President Thieu meet at San Clemente, California. Nixon renews his earlier secret pledge to respond militarily if North Vietnam violates the peace agreement.

    June 19, 1973 - The U.S. Congress passes the Case-Church Amendment which forbids any further U.S. military involvement in Southeast Asia, effective August 15, 1973. The veto-proof vote is 278-124 in the House and 64-26 in the Senate.

    The Amendment paves the way for North Vietnam to wage yet another invasion of the South, this time without fear of U.S. bombing.

    July 1973 - The U.S. Navy removes mines from ports in North Vietnam which had been installed during Operation Linebacker.

    August 9, 1974 - Richard M. Nixon resigns the presidency as result of Watergate. Gerald R. Ford is sworn in as the 38th U.S. President, becoming the 6th President coping with Vietnam.

    September 1974 - The U.S. Congress appropriates only $700 million for South Vietnam. This leaves the South Vietnamese Army under-funded and results in a decline of military readiness and morale.

    October - The Politburo in North Vietnam decides to launch an invasion of South Vietnam in 1975.

    December 13, 1974 - North Vietnam violates the Paris peace treaty and tests President Ford's resolve by attacking Phuoc Long Province in South Vietnam. President Ford responds with diplomatic protests but no military force in compliance with the Congressional ban on all U.S. military activity in Southeast Asia.

    January 8, 1975 - NVA general staff plan for the invasion of South Vietnam by 20 divisions is approved by North Vietnam's Politburo. By now, the Soviet-supplied North Vietnamese Army is the fifth largest in the world. It anticipates a two year struggle for victory. But in reality, South Vietnam's forces will collapse in only 55 days.

    January 14, 1975 - Testifying before Congress, Secretary of Defense James Schlesinger states that the U.S. is not living up to its earlier promise to South Vietnam's President Thieu of "severe retaliatory action" in the event North Vietnam violated the Paris peace treaty.

    January 21, 1975 - During a press conference, President Ford states the U.S. is unwilling to re-enter the war.

    February 5, 1975 - NVA military leader General Van Tien Dung secretly crosses into South Vietnam to take command of the final offensive.

    April 21, 1975 - A bitter, tearful President Thieu resigns during a 90 minute rambling TV speech to the people of South Vietnam. Thieu reads from the letter sent by Nixon in 1972 pledging "severe retaliatory action" if South Vietnam was threatened. Thieu condemns the Paris Peace Accords, Henry Kissinger and the U.S. "The United States has not respected its promises. It is inhumane. It is untrustworthy. It is irresponsible." He is then ushered into exile in Taiwan, aided by the CIA.

    April 23, 1975 - 100,000 NVA soldiers advance on Saigon which is now overflowing with refugees. On this same day, President Ford gives a speech at Tulane University stating the conflict in Vietnam is "a war that is finished as far as America is concerned."

    April 29, 1975 - NVA shell Tan Son Nhut air base in Saigon, killing two U.S. Marines at the compound gate. Conditions then deteriorate as South Vietnamese civilians loot the air base. President Ford now orders Operation Frequent Wind, the helicopter evacuation of 7000 Americans and South Vietnamese from Saigon, which begins with the radio broadcast of the song "White Christmas" as a pre-arraigned code signal.

    At Tan Son Nhut, frantic civilians begin swarming the helicopters. The evacuation is then shifted to the walled-in American embassy, which is secured by U.S. Marines in full combat gear. But the scene there also deteriorates, as thousands of civilians attempt to get into the compound.

    Three U.S. aircraft carriers stand by off the coast of Vietnam to handle incoming Americans and South Vietnamese refugees. Many South Vietnamese pilots also land on the carriers, flying American-made helicopters which are then pushed overboard to make room for more arrivals. Filmed footage of the $250,000 choppers being tossed into the sea becomes an enduring image of the war's end.

    April 30, 1975 - At 8:35 a.m., the last Americans, ten Marines from the embassy, depart Saigon, concluding the United States presence in Vietnam. North Vietnamese troops pour into Saigon and encounter little resistance. By 11 a.m., the red and blue Viet Cong flag flies from the presidential palace. President Minh broadcasts a message of unconditional surrender. The war is over.

  • Missing from Ken Burns’ ‘Vietnam’: The patriotism and pride of those who fought

    09/21/2017 3:13:30 PM PDT · 146 of 217
    kabar to Chainmail
    All they show is the Left's version of history - the South Vietnamese government was inept and corrupt, the enemy were motivated to "reunify" Vietnam (which had never been a single country), and all they show are the battles where we came out poorly.

    The South Vietnamese fought almost two years after we left. It was the pulling of our military assistance from the ARVN and the failure to do anything about the North Vietnamese violation of the peace agreement that led to the downfall of South Vietnam.

    Here is one of the best references on the chronology of the Vietnam War.

    I spent a year in-country 1967-68 and nine months off the coast on an LPH. I refuse to watch anything that Burns produces. He is not a real historian, but rather, a leftist revisionist.

  • Missing from Ken Burns’ ‘Vietnam’: The patriotism and pride of those who fought

    09/21/2017 10:42:33 AM PDT · 79 of 217
    kabar to oh8eleven

    Burns did the same distorted versions of history re the Civil War and WWII. It is all about social justice and aggrieved minorities.

  • Paul Manafort Is in Legal Jeopardy. But Trump may not be

    09/20/2017 9:09:39 AM PDT · 48 of 112
    kabar to Pearls Before Swine
    First, Manafort was probably wiretapped because of the Obama backing of Ukraine turmoil, combined with the anti-Russian sentiment over Crimea.

    Agree with the first comment. Manafort was working with the pro-Russia Ukrainian regime and the US was actively involved in trying to overturn it.

    The Ukrainian territory of Crimea was annexed by the Russian Federation on 18 March 2014. It is no coincidence that the wiretapping of Manafort began in 2014.

    Second, I don’t think Trump has anything to fear. My comment was about my thoughts that Manafort is probably getting more attention, and has higher costs defending himself, because of his brief stint working for Trump than if he hadn’t. So, for that reason, Trump turned out to be on net financial balance, a bad client for Manafort. Not Trump’s fault, not Manafort’s.

    Actually, it might turn out as a blessing in disguise for Manafort. Now he knows that he was being spied on by the FBI for two years and the investigation was discontinued for lack of evidence. If the FBI restarted the investigation when Manafort joined the Trump campaign, many questions will need to be answered by the FBI re the timing, justification, etc. And the fact that Trump's conversations with Manafort may have been captured raises this to a new level.

    Mueller may have a difficult time pursuing criminal actions against Manafort given the circumstances. And the revelations may lead to Obama, Brennan, and Comey. Clapper and Comey may have committed perjury as well.

  • Paul Manafort Is in Legal Jeopardy. But Trump may not be

    09/20/2017 8:19:57 AM PDT · 32 of 112
    kabar to Pearls Before Swine

    Manafort was wiretapped for two years prior to joining the Trump campaign. I suspect that Obama used this as a pretext to spy on the Trump campaign during and after Manafort left the campaign. If there is no there there, i.e., collusion with the Russians by the Trump campaign, then what does Trump have to fear?

  • Editorial: Really? Trump’s plan is to wipe out 25 million people?

    09/19/2017 2:53:03 PM PDT · 19 of 98
    kabar to Oldeconomybuyer

    And what about Rocketman’s threat to wipe out America using nuclear weapons?

  • LIVE: PRESIDENT TRUMP SPEECH TO UN GENERAL ASSEMBLY

    09/19/2017 8:11:46 AM PDT · 64 of 88
    kabar to angcat

    The decision to re-certify the Iran deal comes on October 15. Trump is sending the message that there is some doubt that we will re-certify.

  • LIVE: PRESIDENT TRUMP SPEECH TO UN GENERAL ASSEMBLY

    09/19/2017 8:09:45 AM PDT · 60 of 88
    kabar to snarkpup
    Hammering hard for "strong sovereign nations." Is this a poke in the eye to the EU?

    Yes, and at the globalists generally who are intent on erasing national borders.

  • Executive Order that Could Cause Millions to Self-Deport

    09/19/2017 8:00:35 AM PDT · 37 of 111
    kabar to enduserindy

    Mandatory e-verify.

  • Executive Order that Could Cause Millions to Self-Deport

    09/19/2017 7:59:45 AM PDT · 34 of 111
    kabar to genghis

    Cong. Steve King has been pushing this idea for many years. It is a good one.

  • Gregg Jarrett: Sessions should resign, but not before taking action against Clinton, Comey and Rice

    09/19/2017 5:52:32 AM PDT · 45 of 81
    kabar to USCG SimTech
    Sessions is not the enemy. He is trying to drain the swamp.

    Here are what some of the enemies of Jeff Sessions are saying (go to the articles for the specific accomplishments):

    Jeff Sessions has done more damage in his first 100 days than his boss

    US attorney general Jeff Sessions may not be part of the biggest investigation in the Department of Justice, but as he reaches 100 days in office, there’s little doubt that he’s had an important impact on the American criminal-justice system—potentially for years to come.

    Despite the political turmoil of the Trump administration, Sessions has moved to reverse a tide of progressive reform and to fulfill his boss’s law-and-order agenda, a collection of concepts loosely articulated during the 2016 presidential campaign. Sessions’ biggest actions, from undermining federal oversight of police departments to cracking down on undocumented immigrants, have worried a wide array of lawmakers, law-enforcement leaders, advocates and scientists.

    “Of all the cabinet members, maybe even the president, he has to this point had the most significant impact as to policy changes,” said Jesselyn McCurdy, the deputy director at the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) Washington Legislative Office told Quartz.

    Unlike his boss, Sessions is delivering on what he has promised—sometimes on causes he has championed for decades.

    “There’s been a great bipartisan movement by organizations on the ground and members of Congress to reform the federal criminal-justice system, based on successes that have happened in the states, but the leader of opposition to that reform was Jeff Sessions, as a senator from Alabama,” McCurdy said. “These are all things that [Sessions], as a criminal justice reform opponent, had on his radar already.

    McCurdy said Sessions was “definitely” living up to the ACLU’s concerns, and in some areas, fulfilling the worst-case scenarios.

    Jeff Sessions ushers in 'Trump era' at the Justice Department

    In just over two months, Sessions has proved to be a central figure in effectuating Trump's vision for America in tangible ways on immigration, crime, police reform and civil rights.

    And while the White House searches for new messaging to frame what Trump has accomplished in the first 100 days in office, Sessions has single-handedly managed to make several significant domestic policy changes -- from pressing pause on implementing police reforms to withdrawing Obama-era protections for transgender students in public schools.

    His radical transformation of the Justice Department's role is no accident.

    Many of the changes Sessions has made thus far track a familiar principle of federalism: the notion that the federal government's powers are limited and it can't coerce states into action. In other words, the federal government should get out of the states' way.

    Sessions' critics worry that he is well on his way to undoing many of the major progressive achievements of his predecessors, often by withdrawing from court cases or previous directives that fail to align with his views. Yet Trump supporters cheered Sessions on during the presidential campaign when he said, "the American people are not happy with their government."

    Now that Sessions is the nation's top law enforcement officer, his defenders and critics universally agree: he's been busy fulfilling the President's campaign promises and he's just getting started.

  • U.S. Governors at U.N. Assembly: ‘You Have Allies’ on Climate Change

    09/18/2017 10:29:37 PM PDT · 8 of 20
    kabar to clearcarbon

    Good. Let them tax the Hell out their states and then send the money to the UN. Let them raise the price of gas and electricity driving businesses out of their states.

  • No, Trump did not cave

    09/18/2017 4:13:40 PM PDT · 131 of 133
    kabar to fortheDeclaration
    This was so predictable. The DACA recipients want all 12 to 30 million illegal aliens legalized. It was always the objective of the Dream Act. The camel's nose under the tent.

    Illegal Aliens Crash Nancy Pelosi’s DACA Press Conference: ‘All of Us or None of Us!’

    Others held up signs, including: “Fight 4 All 11 Million,” referring to the estimated total of all illegal aliens in the U.S.

    As if to support her point, activists chanted: “All of us — or none of us,” meaning that they would only accept full amnesty for all illegal aliens, not just DACA beneficiaries.

  • No, Trump did not cave

    09/18/2017 3:44:26 PM PDT · 130 of 133
    kabar to fortheDeclaration
    It matters very much how they got here and that is the entire issue!

    Exactly. You either got here legally or illegally. If you are here illegally, you are in violation of the law.

    So, the notion that you are going to send someone back to his family's nation, when he has been raised here his entire life is just idiotic.

    Raised here his entire life? You don't understand DACA. You just had to get here by the age of 15. And being raised here makes you the winner of life's lottery. What about those who came here thru the legal process? Their children had to wait their turn to come here.

    So who gets to stay here? What are the rules? Are you saying that the standard for staying in the US is that you have been raised here? Going forward, as a matter of public policy, you are saying that all illegal alien children who have come here before the age of 15 should be allowed to stay. You are providing the incentive for more illegal aliens to bring their children to the US along with encouraging unaccompanied children to come. And what about the parents? Should they be allowed to stay with their children?

    You have no respect for the Rule of Law. You are operating out of pure emotion not understanding what kind of precedent is being set. In 1986 we had a "one-time" amnesty. The proponents said there would never be another. The USG estimated that 1 million would apply, but the real number turned out to be 2.7 million. Thirty one years later we are again debating another amnesty for 11 to 30 million illegal aliens.

    So what is your solution? Do we legalize the 900,000 DACA recipients and give them a path to citizenship? There are another estimated 2 million DACA eligible "children" who did not apply. Should they also be treated the same as the existing DACA recipients? And what about the illegal alien parents who have spent many years in the US? And when do you stop this rolling amnesty or will this continue indefinitely into the future?

    It represents a complete breakdown in the understanding of the letter and spirit of the law.

    You don't understand the law. There should be equal treatment under the law. You want to give DACA recipients advantages and priorities not accorded legal immigrants to this country.