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Being from an I.T. background, there is NO company, that I know of, nor have ever worked for, that does not archive e-mails to tape for damn near forever...per regulation.

Now, that could be the biz I work in (finance, and now gov’t), but what biz wouldn’t CYA by using cheap tape and/or media when the regulators/etc. come knocking, or from some B.S. harassment lawsuit, or...

Still, they did not (yeah, just THIS time) follow their own regs/Law in RE: computer/HDD failure. Where’s the grilling of the I.T. and the subpena of chain-of-command. SOMEONE had to sign-off of destruction, rebuild, restore, etc. Wasn’t Keebler elves coming in to save the day.

Correction: She was granted the PRIVILEGE. Rights require no license/approval from gov’t

At least that’s the way it used to work, when we were a Constitutional Republic

Give it a rest, would you please. I think it’s quite obvious Rand has let down quite a few people.

By all accounts, there are 40 other Senators that need to be put out to pasture (I haven’t of Lee/etc. taking a stand yet) and deserve the same condemnation.

It’s ‘unfortunate’ that some of these same back-stabbers were just recently re-elected soundly. IMHO, by ‘low information/party-above-all’ hack voters

What’s the big deal, it hasn’t been referenced let alone adhered to for over a century... /semi-s

I have yet to hear the roar of impeachment for the fact of protecting the Republic, the Constitution and the Rule of Law.

I note that most posts, and talk, center around the issue of politics in re: impeachment. It’s all what’s good/bad for the XYZ Party (polls or the next vote).

Sad to see such from this board, at the least. I expected as much from the GOP/RNC. Either lay out how the man has overstepped, ruled from on high, acted again the Republic, etc. and go for impeachment (win or lose) or finally admit the Republic and Constitution have long been dead. This is NOT some popularity contest, and I would stand up for anyone willing to go the gambit than stick their finger to the wind while the Country burns in the background.

Constitution? Who needs that dusty ol’ paper when the Fed can ‘fix’ all problems...

Sorry, bring back the Republic and let gov’t shrink to its defined powers. THAT will solve most/all the problems of today.

Yep, I can hear/see/read it now:

Judge: Please explain
IRS: My dog ate my e-mail paper back-ups
Judge: OK, dismissed.

Color me unimpressed until somebody is hauled off to jail for violating the “Law” (note the quotes...the Law is only for the serfs)

HA, good one.

I can only speculate, but I hope this follows the repeal of Prohibition: uptake from the curios/celebratory, then it drops like a rock as everyone goes back to their lives...

Taking my analogy literally only involves using the terms defined. Slavery = being controlled by another; to work (forced) for the benefit of someone other than themselves.

I would have little to bark against if taxes were to be paid for those things on which gov’t has every right to be paid FOR: fire, police...I’ll even add roads (but we did fine until the 1920’s w/out gov’t ‘paying’ for roads). The slavery DOES come into play when I/you/we MUST pay for schools, ex-gov’t ‘bennies’, welfare, SS, mediXYZ, foreign aid, Dept. of XYZ.

Lastly, you presume two things: 1) the gent CAN live on $200K/yr (New York, L.A., etc.). Even if he wanted to party all day, buy a McMansion; is his property not his to piss away IF he wanted too?? 2) 80% isn’t ‘enslaved’ per the guy being robbed. I highly doubt ‘overtaxed’ != ‘enslaved’ in his mind.

Ah, but let the ‘serfs’ disregard any single law and see the crushing weight of big gov’t....

It’s been my contention we’ve not been a Const. Republic for some time. I only hope, after the lawlessness/anarchy kicks-in, we can reboot/re-start w/out too much bloodshed.

And most here, I’d speculate, would acknowledge a return to a Constitutional Republic is ‘never going to happen’ as well.

Your point, though true, is the sticking point. And I will point to one area where ‘changing the public’ is always talked about, but never seems to happen (no matter how ‘irate’ they may be): voting (IE: see to be the same re-voted into office time and time again...no matter how fleeced/pissed the public sentiment)

I would agree with another earlier post...it’s where the $$ is SPENT (that Constitutional thing again). I can not see the States passing an Amend ‘fix’ when it would then require them to actually do their JOBS (9th/10th) [I’ve completely given up on any hope of reforming D.C. What’s the definition of insanity again?]

Course, it could be my simple public (and self-taught) education, but I could never wrap my brain around two conflicting Amendments: Slavery vs. income-tax. Just at what % of income tax does ‘slavery’ kick in if not 100%??

The same I.R.S. that had no problems giving out bonuses? Nor the same that REGULARLY sends out ‘rebates’ to those whom never should see penny one (at times, multiple checks to the SAME address)? Maybe they should cut back get-aways and Star Trek parodies.

Finally, just how long does it take D.C. to blow through the ‘savings cuts’ (did I read they but $325M down to ~$10B/yr?)....2, maybe 3 hours?

Those ‘science minded’ Left will twist into pretzels to never acknowledge what this ‘Godless (L)[’tarian]’ can see as self-evident:

Human egg + human sperm != puppy (no matter what position those two met under) /s

The incubation period neither changes the outcome.

One more pox I lay upon the feet of those that have come before me; ever letting it get this far/bad before my birth.

Well, when the pols figure that the young folk will be voting for a LOT longer time than the seniors, I suspect you’ll see a change...especially if/when the younger folk get their ducks-in-a-row via internet and social media.

As to your last point, I’m highly against ANY ‘means testing’; you’re talking outright theft based on nothing more than someone doing better than another (maybe on sheer LUCK). IMHO, it should end like it begin, one day and POOF.

16th does not negate/change any other Amendments, and it sure as sh*t didn’t give gov’t any other authority to start up SS, MediX, DoEduc, etc.

No to you, per se, but, for a forum/people that loves to bitch about the ‘perversion of language’ most sure love to use the same perverted words/phrases. Contribution, entitlement, promises, etc.

Gov’t doesn’t have dollar ONE, unless it takes it from someone else. Just because they have promised to steal your own $$ to ‘invest’ it for your retirement, or promised goodies to stay in the military (sorry all. I’m not knocking the military, they do a good job with the BS they have, but the boat is the same), or any other snake-oil, it remains...snake oil. And, you’re still wrong to expect any promises from gov’t to be honored; as they have none, and no authority to take from one to give to another.

Now, as to your point: they may have the ‘easy’ answer, but it’s 180; they had little to do with the mess and easiest to get out and make it right for themselves. The seniors, on the other hand, have had numerous votes to correct the same, but never have.

When the Gen XYZ+ finally have enough of getting their pockets picked so grand-mom/pop can hit the Bahamas again this month, it’s gonna be messy...to say the least

Yet, if he had said “Look, Florida”, all would be hunky-dorey /s

The dumbing-down and pussification continues

Almost surprised it’s taken ~100 years to go from Republic to ‘swirling the bowl’ Banana Republic (@ best)

Course, we have many here who vote party over Republic/lesser-of-2-evils (cause winning is ALL....as if the Bush years w/ a full GOP Congress didn’t tell ‘em all they needed to know about ‘small gov’t’ “opposition”)

Sorry, but a ‘random’ packet would only consist of X number of bytes. Hardly a full e-mail, let alone anything else of ‘value’. At least, from the article, it appears they were war-driving...nothing ‘accidental’ in that regards.

I’ve always loved these extra-Constitutional ‘gotchas’. What, and where, is a “compelling governmental interest.” spelled out in our Founding documents?

Hey, Buzzie, as long as one does not infringe upon the (True) Rights of another, it’s not up to gov’t to ‘decide’ what is ‘worthy’ in re: 1st Amendment (IE: there’s a HUGE jump from peyote vs. human sacrifice)

Course, the Buzzard doesn’t understand ‘shall not be infringed’ anyway; why care what her thoughts on the rest might be?

Being in the same boat, I don’t see why you’d think it strange. Logic is logic vs. 1st Amendment.

I still find it hard to see how we can, since ~1913, have re-instituted slavery (IE: one working for the benefit of another): income tax (EITC, probates, non-taxpayers), and, in this instance, 3rd parties (employers) being on the hook for an employees health-care costs (benefits)....let alone all the other conflicting ‘laws’ vs. Amendments vs. 9th/10th (but that’s just the ‘wacky’ (L) in me I guess).

I’d still give me left n*t (figuratively) to hear some talking head, during an election cycle, ask the ‘guests’ ‘At what % of $$ confiscation do you consider it slavery’

Might be just my public education, but I don’t get it.

How SLOW does one have to drive to ‘...accidentally collected emails and other personal data...’

Even in my area, where there exists multiple SSIDs (all secure, so the little icon says), taking the strongest signal available; you’re still talking seconds to ‘handshake’, more still to snoop and more still to receive...all at the end/edge of these connections/from the street/etc before the signal drops ala range??

Exactly my point...in reality. And if/until, no thanks.

I’m not one for closing the primary to ‘party only’; that, IMHO, disenfranchises many to vote for whom they think would represent them best....regardless of party.

A simple(r) ‘fix’ to these type of shenanigans: hold the elections for all parties on the same day (make them make some possibly HARD choices)

Where’s the two houses’ ‘ethics committee’? Where is the GOP(e) and party voices?? Is not the language of Schumer and Durbin inflammatory, seditious and outside the protection of ‘while in session’??

Well, it only shows we are no longer a Republic...Constitution be damned. Guess I don’t need to worry about any laws anymore myself

I wonder what ‘standing’ We the People would have in bringing our own lawsuit. D.C. vs. We the People on the same (as if they care about We already...).

I’d only wish/hope we wouldn’t have to go through WoI II to dismantle/start-again....When, in the course of Human events

Don’t go bringing up the Constitution and logic now. Don’t you know this is a ‘CONSERVATIVE’ think-tank/website /s

Still amazes me, even here, the knee-jerk reaction of some/most where their own nanny-state vs. Const. comes in. Don’t degegulate/reschedule....as if the Fed has he authority from the get go.

When/if I EVER see something like that enforced on the Hollyweird crowd or our ‘betters’ FIRST; then I might start thinking about it...

Though, the DUI/etc. track these days are just a $$$ wringer from the pockets of XYZ when the State/cops/etc. keep moving the goal-posts of DUI/etc.

Leaving it up to lawyers and judges to read simple English has caused major headaches in the (near) past; the 14th will NEVER be read ‘correctly’. Hell, the only time may vs. shall is bedrock solid is when it’s used AGAINST We the People.

As a (L), w/out the welfare state/A1S8, the rest would be moot anyway, but I guess it’s a good start....except they left out the identifying mark (tattoo??) so it’s easier to find and jail/shoot.

The whole discussion is moot...if we actually had a gov’t that FOLLOWED THE CONSTITUTION.

Your point is the ONLY con re: ‘Fair Tax’ in my book; otherwise is it the best of them all

1) people to biz to State to Fed - no trace, no hounding, no IRS B.S.
2) completely VOLUNTARY (unlike the ‘Flat Tax’). Grow/make your own/barter/etc. = no tax

Couple that w/ a distributed ‘bill’ from the Fed to the State (State pays its ‘share’ of the budget) and you WATCH The People keep a keen eye on what is spent, how much is wasted on who/what/where

Bingo. Thinking small, what Rights require permission from the gov't to utilize?

"My CCW 2nd A. Rights should cover me in all 50 states"

Ah, but that's when we had a Constitutional Republic....Long before my time.

It’s bad enough w/ the 4/5+ that can’t read, nor understand, the common English of our Constitution. (O’Care being the latest/worst....legislating from the bench, never questioning the authority of D.C., etc.)...Most ‘arguments’ begin ~1910, never on any Founders basis.

Like the old adage...pick the names from the phone book, I’d have more trust in.

If/when I have any trial by jury, I’m asking to be tried by Congress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdeo7Q2E5cE

And, w/ elections just around the corner, the GOP(e) 'opposition'/party is....

thin, fragile line?? Can you point me to a point in just the recent past where D.C. has followed our Constitutional Republic bedrock?

Borders wide open, TSA/NSA/EPA/etc., Common Core, Exec. Orders, Welfare/O’Care/SS/etc.

Let alone the SCotUS doing the same? Kelo, O’Care, Affirmative Action....

BUT, but, Congress DID *something*....Isn’t that what MATTERS?! /do I really need it?

Yet, there is/was no $$ for the wall/security on our border(s)....R-I-G-H-T

You forgot to add: The *same* FBI that received illegal tax information from the IRS...and didn’t do squat about it?!

Yep, I’m not getting all warm/fuzzy about it myself.

No, I think they got it right. ‘Meteoric’ as in....crash down to possible annihilation. He and the rest of the GOPe have pretty much trashed the brand as ‘small gov’t’

You mean, aside from the ‘old’ Constitutional thang (IE: no authority to delegate, let alone specifying gold/silver. Or that the Fed note, in ~100 years, had ‘depreciated’ by 100% (ah, but like most things gov’t there WAS a time of ‘equal swap’ (silver certs))?

Lastly, I think your first example is moot...happened AFTER the Fed act (and though many would say caused by the same, just proves that even they had no gumtion/ability to ‘stop’ the crash either)

The (L) in me says (presumes): when one needs to ask gov’t ‘permission’ to run a business (aka ‘business license’). Same as traveling in ones own vehicle (aka ‘driving’) or get married or...

I mean, we can’t have just ANYONE baking cakes, or cutting hair, or home decorating....now, can we?

I would counter the 13th A., coupled with the Takings Clause prohibits the same.

I have yet to hear from the ‘esteemed black robed betters’ at just what % of gov’t confiscation does slavery kick in...IMHO, if one works for the benefit of another (welfare) by compulsion, that IS slavery as defined.

And a simple ‘solution’ is to send out to EVERY man and women (no children as they can not vote) a ‘bill’ showing what they ‘owe’ for the gov’t provided....broken out in line-item fashion.

Fact, it should be sent out to receive after April 15th and before elections.

Yeah, I know, and I want to hear the rationalizing of the USSC on how slavery != income taxes (or what % finally constitutes the former), or how traveling by car == ‘driving’ (as in PAID for the job of the same) in lieu of ‘operating’ [how did roads exist before cars, but is no longer a Right but a privilege] or....

Should have stopped after the 1st question. Why would cons have the ability the vote (ex-cons are Free Citizens again, are they not)? Define habitual...2 beers a night/365 days? A ‘habitual’ runner = ‘dopamine/endorphin junkie’?? Loon...please.

If there were/are to be others, they would be better asked of Civics: How many Senators? How many Rights are enumerated in the 1st Amendment? How does a license differ from a Right? etc.

Sorry, a BBA only gives them carde blanche to jack up tax rates “But, the budget is XYZ, so we HAVE to raise tax rates to ‘balance’”

I’ll settle for a A1S8 Fedzilla. The rest would settle out in time.

Ummmm...what’s the U.N. doing? It’s this what the Left has been clamoring we ‘pay our share’ to this GREAT institution?!

At the least, we should get Israel to ‘carpet bomb’ the area with weapons seized from the Muzzies. Let ‘em fight their own battles

Shouldn’t be ‘law’ as it stands today...conflicts with the simple reading of the 14th

But, since when has gov’t needed to follow the Law anyway?? /semi-S

Sorry, but a Flat Tax is not the solution. Already, even with two tiers, you’ve opened the door for the 100-yr creep again.

National Sales Tax is the way to go: EVERYONE pays, voluntary, anonymous (consumer > biz > State > Fed), etc. For all its warts, the Fair Tax for me.

I have failed to see any output of ‘educated’ citizenry vs. $$ and spent in the name of that endeavor.

And, though, that Social ideal of ‘community education’ (it takes a village B.S.) may have sailed, does not make it set it stone for eternity.

One, like all other things in life, should pay for services rendered. No use = no pay.

Sad to have read you’re one of the few (out of the gate) stating ‘dismantle’ instead of ‘how to get around’

It was, and always will be, a Ponzi scheme. I spit on that generation that let our Republic die on the vine (SS, 16th, 17th, gun laws, etc.)