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Maybe, just MAYBE, they don’t need the SWAT deployed for every warrant served. Or the armored personal carrier, or the full body armor, or the automatic weapons, or...

Seems those jack-boots need a LOT of ‘extra’ $$

Exactly. Is ANY vaccination/shot/etc. 100% successful? 100% beneficial? NO. IMHO, nobody talks about...WAITING.

Do the shots need to be administered all at once? I think not

Do they need to be administered before the child can talk? Again, I’d think not.

I see NO reason that these shots cannot wait until the recipient can communicate. As it stands, the effects, if any are adverse, are not known until they are past the point of ‘normal development’.

Instead of ‘Hey, Johnny/Susie, why so quiet recently?’, parents don’t find out until way past too late.

Bingo. One case vs. the phrase ‘shall not be infringed.’

I’d PAY to read their pretzel logic that a license is not an infringement, but licensing an abortion is

Or how requiring a license does not infringe upon a Right (IE: NOT requiring a license)

Maybe Buzzy’s head will finally fall forward...and explode

ANOTHER dog-n-pony show? Another “bad things were done but NOBODY was to blame, so we’ll have to do SOMETHING to make sure it doesn’t happen again”?

Nobody ‘remembers’, nobody ‘recalls’, nobody arrested, nobody jailed and, worst of all, nobody FIRED

How about reversing that thought process and save the (majority) taxpayers a load of grief.

If a city has the infrastructure, land, demographics, etc. they buy the land, build their own stadium and charge rates required to them whatever $$ they deem needed.

They can then rent out the space for other events, charging $X.

Instead, we have like we do here in Jax, FL: the taxpayer ripped off (esp. those that cared NOT for a team), to make all ‘ready’ for a stadium, tax cuts for the monopoly team(s), a stadium that sits 90% unused, traffic/police/etc. when it IS in use....all for 30+ years to pay the damn thing off; and numerous MILLIONS along the way to keep it up and ‘attractive’ (they just installed a pool and the largest jumbo-tron. Ummm, we could have used the $45M+ to build a desalination plant - esp. since they all gripe the St. Johns is being drained!)

Taxpayers should NOT be on the hook for these monopolies.

I see your rules and raise a few more:

1) Terminate any/all immigration for a period of 40 yrs. (we must make everyone assimilate. Same as the great migration of the 1900’s)
2) Any/all ‘employers’ are to be fined $5M per infraction (pegged to inflation). Any infraction involves an elected official, LEO, etc., they lose any/all taxpayer benefits and are removed from office. Make it HURT
3) Open a $10/head bounty. Like crime stoppers, only better :)
4) Re-institute chain-gangs for those caught. Hard labor will discourage re-entry attempts.

It’s ILLEGAL today...so what’s going to change in 2 years aside from (some) of the resents in D.C.?

Seems strange to have faith that D.C. will clean and police ITSELF when it obviously cannot even understand the Constitution.

I believe we all know the 11th Commandment...and it is surely misplaced.

No ill words would allow Cryer and Gobbler to continue to act as king, go-along-to-get-along without repercussions. No thanks.

WHEN (if) the GOP were to ever nominate someone whom would do ANYTHING to reduce the size of gov’t, focus and FOLLOW the Constitution, then and ONLY then, would I even think of voting for ‘em.

Actions over words. There’s no reason to believe, because of a letter of party affiliation, they are owed any seat at the table of power....my vote belongs to NO Man whom does not earn it.

Hell, I’m all for testing those over 65 every other year for DRIVING! There’s a reason I don’t go NEAR S. Florida /s

Yep, they COULD do it...but won’t. Nothing that makes sense, nor saves taxpayer $$, will ever get the nod from those in the ‘seats of power’

Unfortunately, that is not the way to actually change the minds of those whom may hear.

It should be fought, not by raised voice, but by rationed debate and ideas to show WHY they are wrong. If others are willing listen, they are willing to change THEIR ways.

Keeping quite does nothing but allow those in the dark to stay ignorant.

All it takes is one ‘light-bulb to come on’ to join in questioning/fighting the status quo

Got no problem w/ every year even. Hell, tie it to the b-day like they do w/ tags here in FL.

Unfortunately, I’m going to have to disagree w/ the early voting: ‘just because’ is not a reason to open the process to lawlessness.

I did note there should be a ‘vote by proxy’ (living will’ish??); but even then, again, it’s open for abuse (see nursing homes, etc.). Plus, saying you voted for GWB isn’t a ‘plus’ ;) (Mr. ‘passionate conservatism’)

How ‘bout good ol’ fashioned HEMLOCK??

IIRC, numb from extremities in...buh-bye

I don’t want them balancing squat, as if they COULD. I want them reducing the SIZE of gov’t., taking an axe to where a scalpel was threatened...the balancing can come after the Republic is restored.

Here’s some better ideas:

- Hold voting on the same day, across the board....local, State, Fed, primary, general.
- NO mail-in (excluding military), proxy, or absentee
- IDs required and finger in ink
- Purge voting rolls every other year, re-enrolled IN PERSON

Won’t matter if they’re open, or not. You can’t bother to vote/register, you shouldn’t be griping.

You forgot about the massive regulatory load, workers comp, EPA, OSHA, etc. etc. etc.

Even if they DID reduce the corp. taxes, they’d just front load it all by the above means....

Until the Republic is restored, and States institute their own (if they WANT/can), will we see what REALLY does/doesn’t work. Fedzilla has it so skewed, there’s no way to tell currently

Another reason to add to the list to implement a (a modified) Fair Tax/consumption tax; get away from the immoral (and, IMHO, unconstitutional) income/tax nightmare!!

ANYTHING to break the gov’t/union/educ cartel gets my nod of approval...until public education is taken back to a services model (hire/fire whom ones wishes for the education they pay for).

Topic winner.

Why not? I don’t pretend we have a Republic, let alone a party in-power that represents We the People.

Now, if I could only pretend to pay the taxes that fund....

IMHO, unless the measure/bill/amendment deals with Law, these types of B.S. votes should be non-existent.

Not that I’m arguing their pissing away their time this legislative session. Hell, they should do it more, at least then I know my wallet, Rights, Liberty and Freedom are safe for another day.

On the other hand, I know we’re paying these narcissistic @ssholes for blowing out more hot air.

Oh, the dilema /s

What other dipsh!t would INTENTIONALLY take the next step when someone is pointing a gun at them and tells ‘em “I’ll shoot if you take another step”??

I see nothing wrong with the LEOs performance. Stay in the car means exactly that

I prefer the term CRIMINAL; they haven’t f*cked up that definition...yet

What kind of ‘diversity’ does BET have??

Why the conundrum, GOP? Isn’t the War on Terror officially over, per the Won?

So, like all Laws that have out-lived their usefulness (not saying this one WAS useful), it should die off, no?

Sorry, but I’m still waiting for the question and answer session to the following:

1) Why is healthcare the responsibility of the employer?
2) If #1 is positive, why not the same for car insurance, home/renters insurance, etc.?
3) If #1 is negative, why do the employees, if paying for their own insurance, not get the same tax breaks that the employer enjoys?

Yeah, yeah...pipe dream that our press would do actual GRILLING of the elected.

That said, these same LEOs are immune from the same Laws foisted upon the masses.

As one poster had already noted, they have a laptop, radio, sometimes even the K-9 unit. Let alone, IIRC (maybe just here in Jax, FL?), they are exempt from the ‘talking on phone while driving w/out hands-free’ Laws.

Hell, I was pulled over, not that long ago for ‘speeding’ on my way to work (she came up fast, then stared pacing alongside). Cop asked me how she know I was speeding...”I was speeding”. Guess in any school, fishing may net a few.

I can’t even count the times when they would light/siren through a light to turn it off on the other side; let alone driving the posted limit and watching the po-po car out-pace everyone else (again, no lights, no sirens).

Yep, cop dash-cams w/ instrument read-out and body cameras...I’m all for it. But I expect the back-lash when it starts getting used again the blue wall.

Yet, the phrase (and Law) ‘the taxpayers will NOT bail you out, not ONE penny’ never crosses the minds of those of D.C., not even from the Right.

No, the 1% will do enough to lower their existing ‘income’ that no other person can readily accomplish.

But my (dream) question will still not be asked nor answered. I can hear the hemming and hawing from the political class already...

And, IMHO, it should be asked whenever tax questions come up.

Bingo. Without a return to the Constitution, a ‘balanced budget’ only gets us higher taxes to pay for all the ‘freebies’ to be given out.

Not that we’ve had a budget passed since the Bush years...so how will THAT jive with the amendment as well??

You mean a military to protect our borders and (immediate) national interests, instead of nation building, winning ‘hearts and minds’ and being the world’s police force (exactly what is the U.N. doing that we’re paying big $$)?

Boy, *I* sure am.

Let me get this D.C. math: Raise the taxes on the 1% so the ‘middle class’ can KEEP more of their $$??

No wonder our education has gone to sh!t...the logical fallacies and NEW new math.

Wonder when the ‘free’ press is going to ask ANY elected official to whom does property ($$, in this case) belong? AND, to what degree of a slave do they think is ‘normal’ (all income taxes are slavery taxes).

Then, it is STILL an issue with GOV’T; too high taxes/regulations/Laws/etc.

Biz has every obligation to their shareholders to build their bottom line, not ensure that U.S. cronies, I mean other biz w/ deep pockets to contribute to gov’t, reap the windfall of gov’t intrusion and ineptness.

Course, who could have seen the problems we’re facing today when ol’ Tricky Dick started opening up China (yes, for those that can’t read between the lines, that is sarcasm).

Again, blame where blame is due...gov’t.

And the press does what it’s told? Nobody pressing the issue? Going anyway to ‘hound’ our ‘betters’?

Freedom of the press my ass

No, it would make the GOP run people whom would bring out the vote (and the funding, that’s #1).

It currently matters not, since the GOP presumes all votes belong to whomever they foist as the flag-bearer

Forgot a few others

1) No ‘benefits’ paid from the Treasury. Public service was (IS) to be a altruistic act.

2) (Though I can find no basis in the act, at it stands currently), D.C. shall have NO immunity to any law/act/regulation or the like that effects We the People in any manner.

3) No $$ shall be given by any entity that can not vote (no biz, no unions, no unions, etc.)

4) Sunshine Law for D.C. - We the People have every right to know the working of those they elect to office. No closed doors, no secret meetings, etc. w/out a loss of office immediately.

What?! IF ‘gay marriage’ is OK, what’s the problem with bigamy? Why the HATE and FEAR Grayson? You some kind of gynophobist? Sexist? Misogynist?

Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy

Yes, and we know that crops planted are NEVER diseased, stolen, eaten, destroyed, etc.

Not that diminishes the Rights and inherit Freedoms vs. the ‘all knowing, all caring’ gov’t at ANY level.

Why, I’m sure just a FEW more Laws (still selectively enforced, IF at all...but there to snag anyone, just in case) would make the utopian dream come into fruition.

Typical Leftist/Socialist: fringe shows the ‘norm’ (accidental gun discharges/etc.), but reverse when they want (’few’ voter fraud = no need for IDs)

And therein lies the rub, no?: ‘to PERMIT same-sex’. If it’s a Right, there is no thought to needing a license. I was surprised the ‘logic’ in the Heller decision re: the 2nd; which is still being perverted (no pun intended) to this day.

If the 14th and the Full Faith require same-sex marriage, then, logically We the People all have Constitutional carry, any ‘licensed’ professional in one State may practice in another, illegal drivers licenses are valid in all 50 States, etc.

If it rids We the People of the immoral and, IMHO unconstitutional 16th Amend., I’ll lean in favor for.

Couple issues with:

Sec. I - gov’t already cannot define ‘income’, as per the 16th, but they are to define money? The Constitution already declares money to be gold and silver

Sec. V - Said funds are NOT the property of gov’t. Not until, and ONLY until, the Constitution is followed (no welfare, no SS, no Dept of XYZ, no foreign aid, etc.) would I even allow the thought of armed federal agents to come into the soverign States to ‘collect’ penny one.

Maybe, because back then, the electorate was more engaged, more read and educated. There WAS no welfare (yes, there was the carpetbagging and crony Capitalism even then)

Maybe, there was still the paper ballot, and though stuffing the box (I’d presume here) was ‘easier’, it was not as prolific as it is today.

Maybe, just maybe, Twain was blowing smoke ;)

But, but, they put SO much MORE $$ then they will ever get....Right? right?!?

Yep, there hasn’t been a law, that I can think of, where gov’t creep hasn’t happened: seat belt, anti-smoking, income tax. Hell, I’m still waiting for the ‘we’ll go through each Law/regulation and remove...” B.S. (every election cycle)

NEVER let ‘em begin and nip that ‘issue’.

People complain about the thought of gov’t installing GPS/etc. to monitor ‘miles driven’. It this any different?

Is it not the same scenario as:
Time-stamp each photo of the license around town, calculate mileage, pay $$ to gov’t coffers.

Of course, these are the same gov’t ‘brainiacs’ whom would would use the system to track down ‘dead-beat’ parents, overdue library books, etc. but NOT when it comes to illegals (uninsured, non-licensed...)

Yet another example of why I support making FREE ‘public education’ paid like every other service...by those that use ‘em.

Kill the auto property tax and let market forces take effect.

Bad school? Fire ‘em
Bad teacher? Fire ‘em
Curriculum of choice for students/parents (arts vs. sciences vs. vocational vs.)
etc. etc.

Sorry, but I will beg to differ. The problem, as often as it is is: gov’t.

It wasn’t mid-way through the prior century when ONE working person could: raise a family, buy a home, buy a TV, buy a car, go on vacation, retire, etc.

Even whittling the necessities down to bare bones, one would be HARD pressed to do the same today for all the taxes, fees, permits, regulations (aka GOV’T)

Another ‘student visa’ overstay? Not as if the Fed. cares WHOM they let in, regardless of their past/associations (see: Boston Marathon bombers)

Now that it’s out, why is this 3rd world turd still HERE?

Exactly.

“We’ll NEVER be able to deport XYZ”. Put a bounty out, and you’ll see ‘em FLEE back home; I doubt you’d see any re-return and a lower case-load on the courts

Completely concur re: VAT.

RE: 16th validity. I believe the time is long past for any Constitutional remedy (IMHO, the research of it being invalid is quite compelling)...we have long ago failed being a Republic (no judge, no court, no ANYBODY would touch such a case; if you could it past ‘standing’ or ‘frivolity’ status).

Even if it was (re)found to be valid, IMHO, it still does not negate any other clause nor Amendment: The 5th is still valid, the 13th is still valid (that right there, if read correctly, would kill the 16th dead) and there are still only a limited number of Constitutionally authorized ‘tasks’ to be paid for. Hell, equality under the Law?? No, there should be no SS, no Dept of XYZ, no foreign aide, no...so there is no need for taxes that we are paying these days (and worse for our progeny).

And, yes, any/all taxes after would fall to the State (in whatever manner THEY wish to collect). 5(0/7) little experiments as was the plan.

As to your last point, the State(s) could just as easily protect their Citizens from the long-arm of the Fed....adding to that same bill that any/all attempts to collect by the Fed must go through the State or else some lovely jail-time for anyone that tries (IE: make all biz payments by proxy through the State, or even escrow). Let the big boys duke it out.

Yeah, I know, fantasy land unfortunately. But, ah, to dream...