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And the elephant in the room: we have $110T+ in unfunded liabilities. It took ~100 yrs. for the ‘promises’ of the 2-party cartel to have stripped each and every one of We the People of any/all Posterity; with nary a peep from Peter nor Paul in the process.

More right than not. They are protecting those whom sign their paychecks...Big Gov’t.

Already AZ has issues w/ Fedzilla re: illegals; but on this issue (as it clearly stands outside of the Fed perview: all voting is by State) they’re just going to have to trust ‘em??

How’s that not a boon for the Left again, per some on FR?

And there, in a nutshell, is the problem w/ “Conservative” ‘solutions’

The REAL answer is dismantling the welfare, min. wage, SS, AKA: BIG GOV’T, machine(s). Let alone ENFORCING current laws, or having them removed if they are ineffective, let alone Unconstitutional.

One wants to be lazy, it’s not up to anyone else to provide their bread in bed.

And the gang couldn’t, or should I say WOUULDN’T, just stand up and say “NO”?!

I came, I received my copy of the bill and I went home to read it....That’s all they had to do.

This is just another cry fest “Look what they MADE *me* do”, for 2014/16.

Sorry Dr. Sowell, the 4th does not get stripped by any ‘national security’....as if Big Gov’t were actively trying to protect We the People to begin (see open Southern Border, current RoE for troops, Boston bombing, etc.).

Come back to the starting line and try making a case again.

One of my pet-peeves here: The ‘gov’t’ does not FUND anything. It steals from the taxpayers to give out the favored few. All inefficient, unethical, amoral and completely Unconstitutional.

1913 was prob. the last straw. The Fed, income tax (16th) and 17th.

Couple that with the Depression and WWI to make the rest seem ‘past’....

Sorry, Mr. Nelson, I don’t trust YOU either...

“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

No, she had EVERY right to bring in that hardware. Where she failed and should be faulted was not seeing/knowing (or KNOWINGLY) keeping sir psycho out of the general population.

As if a moral and religious people would/could not give tomes upon tomes of Laws (zealots, blue laws, dress codes, etc.)?

The ONLY thing we NEED to do is get back to our founding...the Constitution. Let the States make their their plea for Citizens/$$ and see who’s better.

Without the tear-down of Fedzilla, we’re all just pissing in the wind

Sorry, Rush is allowing it himself. He’s a GOP man; he’s never done much aside from kick the tires. He doesn’t name names often, just points out ‘they all do XYZ’.

Levin at least let’s ‘em have it, once in a while, but falls into the same stupor as Rush.

Hannity...he’s an ass kisser; I really wish there was someone else in his time-slot on the way home. I’ve had just about enough of his ‘limited gov’t, except for SS, the safety nets and ....’

Savage/Boortz...now those were two I can rely to give it to me straight.

And yet, no mention of the loss of the 4th. Strange that it too co-insides with the S.C. ruling that they can take DNA for merely being arrested.

Regardless of how it is used, the gov’t has no Right nor LEGAL authority. Never mind the fact they ‘cannot track’ nor deport illegal invaders, but instead hound We the People for a $.20 overdue book fee.

They couldn’t pay me to attend a Jags game w/ all the crap that goes on around the stadium; let alone WHEN it’s actually in use. Sad to see my tax $$ pissed away on that money pit.

Since 1986....and still waiting.

Towers came down on 9/11....still waiting

I only pray the next attack takes out D.C.

Open borders != everyone can come in and become Citizens.

The (L) platform still notes it is up to gov’t to defend the borders. Yet, when you strip away the carrots (SS/Medicare/welfare), you’ll have MUCH less traffic coming across the border.

Still does nothing RE: the misreading of the 14th Amendment.

How about some reciprocity instead, based on country of origin?

Much easier solution:

Kill the 16th & 17th
Kill SS, Medicare, etc. (9th/10th)
Bill the States for their share of the debt
Done

Bachman - who couldn’t/wouldn’t challenge Boehner for the Speaker?
Levin - who’s had and coddled Rubio on his show?

Trust neither a politician nor an entertainer

Can anyone explain to me how this is NOT an ex post facto law? Yes, I know it’s USUALLY making something ILLEGAL after the fact, but the theory remains...it’s ‘after the fact’.

Yeah, I know, they don’t follow the damn Laws nor Constitution as it is...why stop there.

Is it not too ONLY the President can pardon?

You know, if I thought most of this kind of crap through, I’d prob. go on a gun rampage through the Capital....At least take a few of the bastards with me (NSA....SUCK IT)

spot on.

Now, if we ONLY had a party that would follow and adhere to the Constitution; specifically A1S8. Then my blood pressure wouldn’t be through the roof as reading that this Cruella de Vil bitch has a gov’t job, and telling US how to educate ones own children.

And yet your denigrate and blame THEM for the ills of today....

Let me know how ‘working to re-take the GOP’ is going for you. I’m sure the party will be re-taking the Senate right after amnesty is passed.

How many more did he ‘sign off good’ on?

Prob. come to find out it’s like all other Dem rat UNION jobs....nothing done for high $$ and the Citizens screwed over

Nice. But, wake me up when something gets DONE (repealed, arrested and jailed).

I’ve had it up to here w/ the dog-n-pony shows; 95%+ of the bastards in D.C. voted for this crap

I don’t give two sh!ts about ‘terrorism’ (exactly because of the open borders, visas like candy, Boston, etc.).

What I DO care about, and nobody is singing the praises...is the total abuse of the 4th Amendment. Another law/department that COMPLETELY runs rough-shod, but because they can dress it up in lipstick, they think they can sell me the pig?!

Bastards, each and every one of them.

There is no Right to Vote as there is not a reason to put on IN the Constitution.

Senate = States
President = Electoral College
Reps = Citizens of their respective States (IE: 9th/10th)

Now that that process has been perverted, IMHO, you damn tooting there should be limits (net taxpayers only)

And wasn’t it some (GOP, if my memory serves me correctly) member(s) on the panel whom gave the questions to this douche 24hrs. in advance?!

Why, yes. I too trust the same gov’t that abuses our 4th Amendment to come clean when it says “Nope, we don’t do THAT.”

Or the secret courts. Nope, no abuse possible there.

And when the multiple agencies ‘accidentally’ release tax/health records...who’s going to put the genie back in the bottle?

Right, because of whom they are they haven’t a clue when they’re right on target?

I care not that the man fled to Hong Kong. The place sure has more to offer biz that we do in our OWN country (high compliance, regulations, taxes).

What I do care about IS the wholesale abuse and usurpation of our Rights, Liberty and Freedom by this Congress and Administration. MY Inalienable Rights are not for anyone to abuse or subvert; regardless of the party involved. And the easiest test is: Would XYZ be legal for any Citizen, if they did the same?

Because, if you believe the gov’t has the Right to obtain/keep/massage any/all information about all Citizens, let alone that is would USE said data not against the same, I’d say you’ve been on the GOP plantation a bit too long.

Sorry to misconstrue your intention; if hard to discern as it was written.

Though, I do not see those words as synonyms (IE: mob rule != Freedom); let alone Democracy being a concept. I would think the reverse (Republic being the concept).

Look forward to (hopefully) reading some elaboration on your thought process.

Social issues? It seems the GOP can’t even get the THAT part correct

How about Liberty, Freedom and the Constitution? Those/most ‘social issues’ become moot w/out Life and Liberty. But, oh, those ‘crazy’ (L) who want to XYZ; at least they are basing their platform on A1S8 and/or 9th/10th.

Stake it, chop of its head, burn it and nuke it from orbit...the GOP is dead and no friend to We the People nor the Constitution (if the current NSA fiasco didn’t give a clue).

BINGO. They were the ones who subverted their Oaths and Constitution; but the first to throw up their hands “*I* didn’t do anything”....

I am more prone to believe/support Mr. Snowden than I can the cabal in D.C.; they are the the Devil I know; and they sure as sh!t haven’t followed nor supported their Oaths nor the Constitution.

Believe you meant REPUBLIC

And we’ve fallen quite a bit away from our Constitutional version

You forgot Biden and Penetta recently as well.

I’m still waiting to hear from ANY of these jack-wagons how this is kosher vs. 4th Amendment?

In fact, I’m still waiting to see if one has nothing to fear, why does D.C./Congress need any back-room/closed-door meetings...If it’s for the good of We the People; should we not know?

You spelled C-U-N-T incorrectly.

Wonder how many days that’ll get me dinged around here

I’m not sure, it’s been one of the few things that’s been having me scratch my head about.

I can even understand if he towed the full (L) line, AKA: full open borders. But, that usually necessitates 1) removing the anti-A1S8 laws 2) removing the ‘safety net’

Nothing to give = nothing to attract = Constitutional

Most else, he’s done more than 99% of the rest in D.C., and for that I am grateful. This....I don’t know

Right. The same gaggle of know-nothings that, behind closed doors, created, voted and allowed much of what is going on today.

I wish you luck regardless. I’m awaiting the next ‘Town Hall’ event to ask some questions, and more importantly, campaign against every single sitting son-of-a-bitch in D.C. (OK, 99% of ‘em)

Or the abuse and outright shredding of our 4th Amendment per the Patriot Act and our NSA?

We need a police state because there’s bad guys out there? FR, Please.

The ACLU is correct (in this instance); Congress and the whole nest of snakes should be routed, strung up and jailed for their subversion of the Constitution and their Oaths

No. They are fundamentally UNCONSTITUTIONAL, regardless of the (non)Law used to justify them. They have just used a heap of shit to hide the diamond at the base; it doesn’t mean the diamond isn’t there.

And, they are Inalienable Rights, not Constitutional. They are given by our Creator and are to be secured BY our gov’t.

We are so far from our Constitutional Republic, I doubt to see any return before the first Civil War (the ‘original one’ not being a true Civil War....they did NOT wish to take-over D.C., they wanted to secede and rule themselves).

We’re to presume the same group of clowns who couldn’t stop ANY of the domestic terrorism, can’t track illegal aliens or aliens overstaying their school/work visa should be allowed to sniff, catalog and track all personal data, in violation of the 4th Amendment?

The same people who pass law upon law, but only uphold those they wish to use as a carrot or the stick?

The same people who, routinely, hide behind doors in smoke-filled rooms to cobble laws, regulations and the like...in PRIVACY?

Nothing can supersede the Constitution, outside of an Amendments.

Let’s see if my theory would hold up:
Constitution gives gov’t certain, limited powers
Senate/pres. sing treaty saying Constitution is null

Yeah, looks legit to me /s

Correction...we were in a DECLARED State of War.

This ‘War on Terrorism’ is as much as the ‘War on Poverty’ or ‘War on Drugs’

Even still, I read NOTHING that allows them to violate our Inalienable Rights, for the ‘better good’ or no

Believe you’d better reassess....There are too few (L) in Congress; it’s the GOP itself whom is selling off the farm from underneath our feet.

Paul may have said he’d see what’s coming; it’s your GOP ‘leadership’ that’s happily bending over to take it up the shoot. There was a chance to remove Boehner, and no one took it.

Blame the GOP, not the (L), whom have little clout in the whole affair.

Wow. Just think if the gov’t were constrained and founded to secure these Rights. Among them Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

The last person on FR, please turn off the lights.

Long live the Republic.

Since when did polling supersede the 4th Amendment?

How about we start up some anti-1st and see where the polls take us, eh?

Easy fix, as he has as much Right as anyone else:

Move the speeches to the end. Don’t like what is being said, you can go, the graduation is over.

Yep, or maybe?

Next ‘scandal’ I get myself in, I’m going to ask the prosecutor and judge to give me the same ‘punishment’ D.C. and their cabal....slap on the wrist, step-down/retire.

So much for all being equal under the law.

And a example of why Liberalism is a cult/religion to some. It is their BELIEF, beyond all facts, reason and logic.

Unfort. there is little detriment from those in D.C. that act to subvert, overturn and/or overrule our founding document.

The failure started w/ Lincoln, then Teddy and BIG time w/ Wilson(who just took the ball and RAN).

You can’t tell me there was less of church and God then as there is today? No. The People, then, let gov’t get away from them...giving what we have today.