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Sorry, but a Flat Tax is not the solution. Already, even with two tiers, you’ve opened the door for the 100-yr creep again.

National Sales Tax is the way to go: EVERYONE pays, voluntary, anonymous (consumer > biz > State > Fed), etc. For all its warts, the Fair Tax for me.

I have failed to see any output of ‘educated’ citizenry vs. $$ and spent in the name of that endeavor.

And, though, that Social ideal of ‘community education’ (it takes a village B.S.) may have sailed, does not make it set it stone for eternity.

One, like all other things in life, should pay for services rendered. No use = no pay.

Sad to have read you’re one of the few (out of the gate) stating ‘dismantle’ instead of ‘how to get around’

It was, and always will be, a Ponzi scheme. I spit on that generation that let our Republic die on the vine (SS, 16th, 17th, gun laws, etc.)

Sorry, but IMHO unless the Constitution is amended, it states EXACTLY what the Fed. Gov’t has control...and 80% of the West isn’t one of ‘em.

We have all seen what kind of ‘stewards’ Fedzilla comes down to: out-of-control controlled burns, Super Fund sites (what once was good is now bad = taxpayer $$), porous Southern border (one of the FEW numerated powers, and they can’t get this ONE right)...

Easiest, and (IMHO) best solution, is the Capitalist solution:

Those utilizing the service of ‘public’ (gov’t) education PAYS for said education.

- No more perpetual property taxes (for those of us w/out children and/or not in school)
- Direct payment = can fire/hire as they wish
- ‘Schools’ would pop up left/right to fill the void where service is required/lacking
- (think the pros could take their own thread)...

Weren’t there boobs whom bloviated the same BS after N.O and Katrina? (And, IIRC, there has not been a trail/trial re: where the $$ went in N.O.)

I’d settle for siting the Constitutional authority....

You sound surprised?

RE “Democrats could have opposed the process and demanded a roll-call vote be taken”: nobody on the GOP could have opposed and demanded a vote?? Wonder how THAT works.

Call me cynical that many in the GOP would have voiced PASS but then taken to the floor/airwaves to make a racket

How about $0 in their next budget...That should give EVERYONE at the IRS *PLENTY* of time to find and submit said documentation...

Well, I wouldn’t absolve the other side either; there’s plenty of G.children economic slavery from the ‘hands off *my* S.S./Medicare/I ‘paid’ for this’ crowd

How does one nullify what is unConstitutional? (All Laws contrary..., as it has been said).

Now, if this were a true Law, passed by the State....

And just a pet peeve of mine, it was NOT a ‘Civil War’ (the South did not wish to win and ‘rule’ from D.C.). If we’re going to win a war of words, let’s get the correct verbiage FIRST, please /rant off

R-I-G-H-T. We’ve had (R) control of D.C., HOW many times since 1980, and all we’ve gotten have been: TSA, DHS, NSA, NCLB....

I haven’t heard word ONE, for many a year, about abolishing the DOEd, let alone any other Department (aside from what Perry could remember *rolls eyes*)

Every other year, all that’s talked....is lip service. Vocal noise to get elected and fill their own pockets with the $$ of the We the People.

We already tried that...I was called the Constitution. Worked pretty well until (some would say) Lincoln; most would theorize ~1910.

I mean, what other way to explain why D.C. cannot ‘define’ “Shall not be infringed”, “Congress SHALL make no Law” and a plethora of other simple-English phrases; but the Commerce CLAUSE negates the defined limits of A1S8 and all other anti-Fed practices....

If anyone were to bring up disenfranchisement in the future, just point to her. Here’s one who negated the vote of SEVEN other voters....and got a slap on the wrist.

Eh, what do I expect these days when NOBODY in gov’t gives a hoot what We think/vote and bow to the invasion from the South (again with the slap)

SLIGHT correction from a wishful (L): BIG un-Constitutional government is destroying the nation

Spot on on the other points

Sure, I trust 9 tyrants in robes whom couldn’t read to understand the Constitution if the mob were at their front door.

Same way my 5th A. Rights are null when filing out my ‘tax returns’, or a license to carry when I have my 2nd A Rights. My Rights do not cease to exist during travel (I’m sure not a ‘driver’...I make no $$ ‘taking myself’ to work. Though, they sure can lawyer up every which angle to ‘gotcha’ but can’t seem to understand ‘shall no be infringed’ readily enough).

Yep. I readily accepted, many moons ago, we are no longer a Republic.

I believe I have come up with the perfect way to get through. Though, I doubt, any GOP/(C)/etc. would be smart enough to revamp and amplify the analogy. One only has to correlate big-gov’t with ‘house-rules’. IE: One, before 18, LONGED to move out from the parents house so they could ‘make/live under their own rules’. Big gov’t now BECOMES the new house rules, and there is NO WHERE else to move.

You’re partially correct. I want the welfare ENDED; but this will work in the interim. I know, that whole ‘old’ document and something about ‘takings’ being so out-dated.

Now there you go again, giving us (L) a bad name bringing logic and the Constitution into a (C) argument (note I did not say ‘debate’, that would involve reason/facts instead of emotion and vocal acuity [IE: shouting])

Next you know, you’ll be bringing up ex-cons being Free Citizens again (to vote, self-defense, etc.) and a whole plethora of ‘losertarian’ ideas. I rarely read any reference to the Constitution when these threads for conserving....whatever needs conserving (I still haven’t gotten an answer to that question).

Punish any crimes committed under the influence of drugs criminals. Fixed it for you. Some may remember what gov't IS instituted for: protecting our Liberty and Rights. Sad to see so few whom do NOT on this, supposed, (C) 'site.

Someone say ‘throw away child’?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6srI0EVwTUE

Not sure where you get the idea, EXCEPT for the 9 black-robed tyrany, that our Rights are ‘not absolute’ (and they call us L’tarians kooky here)

BOTH are Rights and both in the 1st: of Religion and of Assembly (the latter being how one can ‘discriminate’ for OR against anyone/thing else).

If a biz owner wishes to discriminate, for WHATEVER reason they deem, it is THEIR biz to do so....I have as much a Right to NOT associate and/or shop there. *I*, nor the gov’t, pays for that biz employees, taxes, fees, utilities, etc.; nor should the same be making rules/etc. that might be counter to the biz/owner.

I would also add ‘health savings accounts’, (as much as I hate noodling with the ‘tax code’...it should be abolished) remove 3rd party pay and let users deduct from taxes. Let’s not forget about tort reform and removing the ‘everyone welcome’ at the E.R. (only caveat I’d have: as long as one is ‘stable’, they should be shoo’d out to their own doc/etc.)

To start :)

Sorry, but you’re proposing exponential taxation (IE: if I make a $1 by investing using funds that have ALREADY been taxed)

Income tax, too, as noted, does not cover those using services but able to whittle their ‘income’ to nill.

A1S8, repeal 16th and institute a nat. sales tax (but MUCH lower than the Fair Tax [see A1S8])

"The failure ultimately lies in "We the People" for having allowed men of low character to occupy offices of power gov't to surpass its delegated powers of the Constitution." Fixed it for you

It matters not if good nor bad men occupy offices, if said offices should never exist to begin.

Right....as if that was the ‘plan’ all along.

Let’s substitute cigs, alcohol or Rx for pot. Are those any less offensive to your sensibilities that would cause your snide post?

I don’t recall seeing a bust of a cig smoker under the age in QUITE some time...it is not still illegal? Oh, but pot is somehow WORSE than the rest?

Maybe the need for nanny/big-gov’t and gov’t dictates are just fine and dandy with Conservatives when it’s something they agree with...it’s not Fascism when ‘we’ do it, right?

We should return to the ‘old’ standard...Lady Liberty and the like. Such beauty and art in those days.

Of course, then it would make it difficult to know the difference between REAL $$ and fiat currency

It’s only damning IF someone utilizes the information.

Me? I’m still not holding my breath about 300+ dead re: F&F, or 4 dead re: Benghazi (any witnesses called YET?), or...

Voting booths to be opened shortly enough and just WHERE in the GOP/RNC re: above PLUS OCare delays, Russia, IRS/EPA....Sorry, that’s just my ‘kooky’ (L)’ism coming out /s

Why, we should have NEVER repealed Prohibition, as the great number of louts, gluttons, medical expenses AND fatalities = ‘encourage large swaths of the population to sit around getting drunk and becoming economically non-productive’...

Where’s that great pic ‘It’s not fascism when WE do it!’?

Maybe, just maybe, there are those of us who are tired of the mealy-mouthed whom would rather ‘reach across the aisle’ or take 5min to answer a simple yes/no question than speak the simple truth.

He’s unfiltered and speaking from the heart. We ALL should be standing up for his Right to do so as well as defend the message instead of worrying about ‘the Party’ or the ‘how the media will portray’ (as if the latter would do anything for the benefit of the Constitutions).

We’ve got enough wadded panties in the capitals and D.C., time to pull out the wedgie and the big guns for once.

Does anybody ask these ass-clowns what the phrase ‘shall not be infringed’ means ‘to them’?

Can they elaborate on where the term ‘assault XYZ’ correlates to ‘to keep and bare arms’

I’d LOVE to hear ALL those-running-for-ANY-public-seat their logic on Rights vs. privileges (IE: requiring license)

Bingo.

I care not of his words, I care about his ACTIONS/votes. He burned that bridge right out of the gate with ol’ Chucky and the gang.

I’m sure there’s one in every crowd, but I’m reading that in their platform.

IMHO, the ‘solution’ to both IS reigning in the Federal leviathan. There is NO authority for wealth distribution and if there is no carrot, there would be WAY less illegal immigration (IE: no ‘free’ $$$ to entice).

It’s why I tend to identify as (L) or ‘Constitutionalist’; IMHO (again) ‘Convservative’ denotes no STARTING point (IE: Are we conserving 60’s America? 30’s? 20’? 1890’s?).

I expect that driven from the Left; but more and more I see if here on FR as well.

Opinions and @ssholes, eh?

That’d be almost impossible, as Rights neither require permission nor a ‘permit’; let alone there are 5 Constitutional carry States that would blow the whole logical pretzel out of the water.

I don’t care who you are, that’s funny right there

My point was with being ‘detained’ vs. ‘arrested’, not merely a traffic stop

That’s exactly what OCare is, is it not? A contract signed under duress? Still ‘Constitutional Law’

Yeah, I know. Some even here still think we’re a Constitutional Republic....

As if I had any ‘faith’ in gov’t, but I failed to see where the SEC/etc. are jumping on this kind of thing?

America doesn’t need to ‘be strong’ for the world, it needs to be strong for the Citizens of the U.S. That does not entail throwing our men/women into every damn conflict on the planet with some damn goofy RoE so that the fight can never be won.

Military does not ‘win hearts and minds’, it does not fight emotion (’War on Terror’); it is used to defend and, if needed, WIN the fights/battles and WIN peace. But should never be used on the weakest of pretense to shove the Federal leviathans nose into every country on the planet.

I’ll post the question, as I’m ignorant of the answer: In what post-conflict(s) has the U.S. pulled entirely from the region?

Hummm, how does that jive with Miranda Rights? If one has the Right to remain silent....I can see, MAYBE, if being detained vs. arrested.

Still, enough blame to go around: pedestrians thinking they’re above the Law vs. heavy handed police/police state

Unfort., no matter which phrase one begins the ‘debate’ the oligarchy will twist and skew as it needs to keep the $$ flowing.

First square: permits !- Rights.

” raise the level of his vernacular to a more understandable level people can understand.” ....I (T.N.) did not mean to use the word ‘mongrel’. What I meant was ‘lying douche-nozzle’.

IMHO: Private Citizen = Free Speech = STFU R.P/R.P. Otherwise, let Dumbo TRY to sue T.N. for libel/slander

Misleading headline....they are children of ILLEGALS born while in the U.S. They have NO ties, no Citizenry per a clear reading of the 14th.

And still NO reason (that I can think of) for the purchase of HOLLOW POINT for ‘target practice’. Guess that just wouldn’t fit the meme

It’s not JUST O’Care...it’s a symptom of gov’t interfering where it has NO authority. BIG GOV’T ‘to the rescue’ to problems it itself begins.

Get rid of the HMO/Medicare/etc. Replace the tax benefits to the CUSTOMER (instead of the employer), tort reform (loser pays, IMHO), and back to direct pay (3rd party is why nobody knows what costs what).

The ONLY caveat I would have: on NEW/original purchases. We have enough 2x/3x/4x taxation; that should end as well.

Ummm, you’re thinking too small: Constitutional carry. I mean, it’s ‘legal’ in 5 States already, right? /s