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  • UPDATE: Cascade Mall Shooter Captured – Suspect Turkish Muslim Arcan Cetin – a Hillary Supporter

    09/25/2016 1:32:34 PM PDT · 58 of 65
    Hostage to justlurking

    You’re just trying to wiggle out of your mistake or out of getting called on your inaccurate view. Own up to it and let it go. Here’s what you wrote in #15:

    > “This is actually a mis-characterization of the tweet. It was apparently ***sarcasm***”:

    You sided with what a woman with zero credibility is reported to have written in the link you provided:

    “However, a woman has tweeted that the voting comment was a ***sarcastic response***.”

    “She claims he was actually a conservative ...”

    It is clear the woman has no credibility because of the following:

    “Asked whether she actually knew Cetin, though, she responded “not at all.” “

    Evidently, she’s a Hllary supporter because she called the shooter a conservative, she said he was a member of a rifle club and in the ROTC. All of those labels when spoken negatively are Hillary code. Yet she doesn’t know the shooter at all.

    Later in the link you provided the report finds the shooter had this to say under a picture he posted on a Tumblr page of the leader of ISIS:

    “My main dude, Abu bakr al big daddy. #al qaeda.”

    Yet the woman you’ve sided with is insinuating he’s a right-wing conservative.

  • UPDATE: Cascade Mall Shooter Captured – Suspect Turkish Muslim Arcan Cetin – a Hillary Supporter

    09/25/2016 10:10:59 AM PDT · 36 of 65
    Hostage to justlurking

    > “ou really have to read the entire article, and consider all the points together.”

    I read the whole thing.

    You provided a link and a comment that the tweet was likely sarcasm based on the remarks of a woman with no credibility.

    The woman described in the report said the shooter was being sarcastic just as you affirmed. But the report also quoted her that SHE DOES NOT KNOW THE SHOOTER AT ALL.

    Therefore, you are boosting a woman who has no credibility and who appears as a Hillary supporter because she is labeling the shooter with right-wing descriptives.

  • UPDATE: Cascade Mall Shooter Captured – Suspect Turkish Muslim Arcan Cetin – a Hillary Supporter

    09/25/2016 9:23:06 AM PDT · 21 of 65
    Hostage to justlurking
    > "This is actually a mis-characterization of the tweet. It was apparently sarcasm:"

    Your link does not show 'sarcasm' or any of the right-wing descriptions of the woman posting her nonsense. Here is the report on her:

    @ArcanCetin was a conservative in rifle club &ROTC. This tweet is in response to the Seahawks beating Packers on Jan 18 2015

    — ♏Heather (@heathermae777) September 25, 2016

    Asked whether she actually knew Cetin, though, she responded “not at all.”

    It's safe to say she's a Hillary supporter trying to twist the story back on conservatives.


  • Why does Glenn Beck hate Trump so much?

    09/24/2016 7:22:36 AM PDT · 9 of 67
    Hostage to MNDude

    > “Why does Glenn Beck hate Trump so much?”

    Who cares? Answer: No one.

  • Why geeks say Ted Cruz is wrong about ICANN

    09/24/2016 7:20:45 AM PDT · 47 of 67
    Hostage to RoosterRedux

    The system that is being transferred includes controlling ISPs, domains, names. A simple block or deletion of a domain takes out a business, blog, personal website.

    This Harvard professor needs to explain how the above won’t happen. It indeed will happen when a group is empowered to control it without a representative arm of the people.

    Keeping it in the USA keeps it under the influence of Congress and because it is now a household and business utility, any attempts to tax or regulate it will be met with a public revolt. Whereas, if an international group were controlling it, public backlash in the USA would be ignored.

  • Inviting wrath of judge may be part of a calculated approach....(OREGON STANDOFF TRIAL)

    09/24/2016 5:46:57 AM PDT · 13 of 15
    Hostage to knarf

    Actually, Trump’s remarks were in January of this year. Here is a link and some of his remarks:

    In a new op-ed for the Reno Gazette-Journal, the Republican presidential front-runner rails against the “draconian rule” of the Bureau of Land Management and the Obama administration’s “land grab” in the western United States.

    “The BLM controls over 85 percent of the land in Nevada,” Trump explains. “In the rural areas, those who for decades have had access to public lands for ranching, mining, logging and energy development are forced to deal with arbitrary and capricious rules that are influenced by special interests that profit from the D.C. rule-making and who fill the campaign coffers of Washington politicians.”

    On Thursday, Trump told the New York Times he would end an ongoing dispute between Oregon ranchers and federal officials, that’s culminated with a group of armed protesters staging an ongoing occupation of a federal wildlife refuge, with a “phone call.”


    Importantly, Trump does not call for just handing over federal lands to STATES without thinking it over thoroughly. This caused a bit of an uproar, why? Because Trump knows that there exist many corrupt state officials who would sell or lease the lands to the highest bidder whereas Donald would advocate for best use of the lands.

    I called for handing control of the lands to a Charter Association of Farmers and Ranchers with limited federal regulations about how the charter was to be managed in terms of membership so that a clique could not control the charter and thus the lands. This approach would seem to follow Trump principles of putting leadership into the hands of those that know the business the best, not federal or state bureaucrats.

  • Inviting wrath of judge may be part of a calculated approach....(OREGON STANDOFF TRIAL)

    09/24/2016 5:21:05 AM PDT · 10 of 15
    Hostage to knarf

    Yes, last summer Trump made a brief statement in support of farmer and rancher right and remarked that he could resolve the conflict with a simple phone call.

    I posted last year a link to Trump’s statement. He was magnificent in his defense of ranchers but was insistent on following the law.

    If I can find it I will post it.

  • Donald Trump Unveils New, More Diverse, Supreme Court Short List

    09/24/2016 12:29:06 AM PDT · 11 of 12
    Hostage to bus man

    Thanks for clearing it up.

  • Donald Trump Unveils New, More Diverse, Supreme Court Short List

    09/23/2016 3:02:58 PM PDT · 4 of 12
    Hostage to E. Pluribus Unum

    Southeast Asian American as in SOUTH KOREAN AMERICAN on the SCOTUS could be great!

    South Korean Americans are known for their observance of conservatism, their respect for propriety (turning down bribes), and their unwillingness to back down to social pressure groups. Let’s hope it’s a good one!

  • Long a rival, Ted Cruz endorses Trump in U.S. presidential race

    09/23/2016 2:59:00 PM PDT · 32 of 50
    Hostage to IllumiNaughtyByNature

    Yes, I think you have it.

    Cruz is suffering the consequences back in TX and now he’s twisting about.

  • Cruz’s Non-Endorsement of Trump Thrills Glenn Beck and Erick Erickson

    09/23/2016 2:56:44 PM PDT · 14 of 44
    Hostage to ameribbean expat

    Beck is using terminology from Hillary’s circle of deranged leftists.

    Wondering if there’s a money trail between Hillary’s campaign and Beck/Erickson, etc.


    09/23/2016 12:25:15 PM PDT · 38 of 67
    Hostage to Maceman

    I believe Presidents must be precise as to the specific acts that they grant pardons to. I don’t believe blanket pardons are permissible.

    I could be wrong but I don’t believe anyone can pardon acts of treason.

    Clinton may be pardoned for having an illegal computer network operating for government business but I don’t believe she can be pardoned for selling or causing to be sold state secrets.

    Again, I could be wrong but Obama would have to describe what his pardon of her covers and he would also have to pardon every person she had contact with on the illegal network, else they could be prosecuted. Sydney Blumenthal comes to mind ...

  • Maniacal liberal harasses Trump supporter, goes BERSERK when cop won’t let her play victim

    09/23/2016 9:01:47 AM PDT · 22 of 99
    Hostage to TigerClaws

    She’s in the same deranged category as this feminist:

    Here’s a video of his interview:

    And here’s another that is funnier than hell!:

    Like the guy says this is more a cult than a social movement.

  • Facebook launches first nationwide voter registration drive

    09/23/2016 8:52:18 AM PDT · 44 of 56
    Hostage to napscoordinator

    See #42.

    The Expat Block is likely collected I sense to a large degree by means of fraud or by insider information that is known only by Obama people in the State Dept.

    Of concern however, is what state may an Expat vote? PoliSci Professors have analyzed the election down to counties within battleground states. If bags of mail-in ballots appear in those counties from overseas, then the RNC should have operatives in those counties to challenge any mail-in votes from overseas Expats.

  • Facebook launches first nationwide voter registration drive

    09/23/2016 8:45:05 AM PDT · 42 of 56
    Hostage to Does so

    I have my doubts as to how the Soros people would be able to find and register them on their own.

    But if the Obama State Department gave Soros people a list of names, I would not be surprised if millions of voter registrations came back with those names on them.

    I have deep knowledge of mail ballot fraud.

  • Facebook launches first nationwide voter registration drive

    09/23/2016 6:43:52 AM PDT · 17 of 56
    Hostage to pburgh01; SoFloFreeper

    Someone should test any link that Zuckerberg might provide for voter registration to see if any personal info has been handed off.

    Never click a link that asks if Hillary should go to jail, etc. because it gathers info that might be tied back to personal data.

  • Facebook launches first nationwide voter registration drive

    09/23/2016 6:24:07 AM PDT · 5 of 56
    Hostage to quesney

    Soros has launched an effort to sign up 8 million voters that reside overseas.

    8 million?

    I know some Americans live overseas but 8 million?

    Does anyone smell massive fraud in the works?

  • Meet Denmark's new anti-immigration party

    09/22/2016 8:35:31 PM PDT · 4 of 7
    Hostage to Olog-hai

    Is it my imagination or is the Trump Movement encouraging and empowering folks throughout Europe?

  • Senators Call For ... Wells Fargo As Warren Buffett Vows To Keep Silent Until After Election

    09/22/2016 5:06:48 PM PDT · 5 of 12
    Hostage to Rusty0604

    Phantom Account Scandal Explained:

    Bankers get a commission (extra money,) for certain actions. These usually invoice opening accounts. The more accounts you open, the more money you get.

    Commission is a bonus. It’s not a requirement for your base salary. Many banks create a quota of sales that they expect their bankers to hit. When accounts are opened with certain products(direct deposit, online banking, etc) is profitable for the bank.

    Wells Fargo had an environment, where if your bankers were not making enough commission, they were reprimanded.

    Every location has a limited amount of customers. The quotas at Wells Fargo were much higher than achievable.

    This is a tactic for any sales force to raise the bar higher to get your team to perform harder.

    Unfortunately, the quotas were so high, and the pressure on the employees was equally high, many resorts to illegal actions to achieve those goals.

    Bankers opened accounts without the owner’s permission. Credit cards, checking, savings, online banking, bill pay. They would transfer money around to these accounts, simulate the activity that would get them paid, and transfer it back.

    The banker hits their numbers, three bank looks profitable, no one thinks about it. This goes on for years, and customers are asking about credit cards/accounts they never applied for.

    Keep in mind, when we say bankers, we mean regular employees who make 25k-35k a year before commissions.

    This type of stuff isn’t uncommon, but such a drastic breach across the board shows that when you create a highly pressured incentive-based system and punish those who perform poorly, you’ll create a corrupt system.

    There was no one looking to see if these accounts were legitimate, they only cared that numbers were met.

  • Email shows federal immigration bosses in OT push to swear in new citizens ´due to election´

    09/22/2016 4:31:51 PM PDT · 7 of 17
    Hostage to Jane Long; Nachum

    Jane, you might be interested in this. Please ping the list.

    Those presenting before Judge Hanen might be interested to know more about this and just who might be the ‘new citizen voters’. I have a suspicion the details could reveal a violation of Judge Hanen’s order.

  • Black Lives Matter: We’ll Tear Down New Orleans’ Monuments Ourselves

    09/22/2016 4:26:53 PM PDT · 24 of 82
    Hostage to servo1969

    > “... we’re asking them to step aside and let us do what is our civic duty,” the spokesman said.”

    Civic Duty ..... riiiggghhht ...

    It is their ‘Civic Duty’ to tear apart American History.

    It is their ‘Civic Duty’ to take down America.

  • Cruz supporters alarmed by possible Trump endorsement

    09/22/2016 3:40:20 PM PDT · 252 of 350
    Hostage to SunshinesStormySummerSon

    Do a Google Search on terms “Ben Carson on Trump Temperament” restricted to Aug 1, 2015 to August 31, 2015 and up will pop many reports and interviews in the first half of August where he clearly insinuates Donald Trump does not have the temperament to be President.

    All of Carson’s comments about Trump were completely unprovoked.

    As late as Aug 27, 2015 Trump had attacked neither Cruz nor Carson but as those two got feister and more bold in their criticisms of Trump’s character, Donald finally took the gloves off and KO’s them.

    Donald Trump: No attacks on Ben Carson, Ted Cruz — yet

  • Cruz supporters alarmed by possible Trump endorsement

    09/22/2016 3:27:55 PM PDT · 246 of 350
    Hostage to SunshinesStormySummerSon

    Carson attacked Trump’s temperament first. I remember it clearly.

    It is a first principle of Donald Trump and his family to never consider attacking until first attacked.

  • Cruz supporters alarmed by possible Trump endorsement

    09/22/2016 12:45:50 PM PDT · 65 of 350
    Hostage to Jim Robinson

    > “Cruz has held out on the grounds that Trump ... attacked his wife and father down the stretch of their heated battle for the Republican nomination.”

    Trump never attacks unless he’s been attacked first. And he only mentioned Heidi’s affiliation with Goldman Sachs and his father’s association with the Lee Harvey Oswald after Cruz’ campaign manager sleazebag Jeff Roe coordinated with a Cruz PAC to plaster Melania’s nude photo all over the internet.

    In light of what Cruz/Roe orchestrated on Melania, I would say Donald’s so-called ‘attack’ was quite mild and only suggestive.

    Cruz can dish it out but he can’t take it. And he’s an example of sore losers everywhere.

  • Obama Boom Builds Obamatowns

    09/22/2016 9:47:31 AM PDT · 6 of 6
    Hostage to Sean_Anthony

    The only way the stock market can continue to climb up is by means of the Federal Reserve keeping interest rates near zero or going negative.

    We have seen the air go out of the stock market bubble at a rapid rate at the mere mention of allowing interest rates to find their market level.

    Krugman is nonsensical in stating the ‘comfortable’ are only ‘slightly’ afflicted whereas the afflicted are comforted ‘a lot’.

    The truth is that Wall St sharks have become obscenely rich by ill-gotten gains while ordinary Americans have been forced to take desperate measures.

    And all this while America’s inner cities burn.

  • Trump: 'There's something going on' with Clinton

    09/22/2016 7:24:49 AM PDT · 43 of 64
    Hostage to nbenyo

    She won’t look like a hero ever.

    But it is true that the Clintons and their circle know how to cover up their corruption by baiting conservatives with lies and exaggerated conspiracies making their opposition look foolish in the press.

    So if your point is to beware of the Clintons because they know how to play you, then that’s a good point to make.

    As for Donald, he’s smart enough to handle the Clintons. If she appears healthy at the debate and he is somehow called to comment about his past remarks, then he can simply say “I am happy for her recovery because weeks ago she collapsed and her campaign said she had pneumonia and she’s been missing so much time on the campaign trail”.

    The Clinton’s real problem is that people get on to their tricks and lies, and that of their media supporters, and they have no way to get out of it other than to try and change the subject but Trump is a master at steering and dominating the media so they’re stumped at how to take him down.

  • AT&T Reveals Secret Plan For Wi-Fi Even Faster Than Google Fiber (city power pole WiFi repeaters)

    09/21/2016 8:26:04 PM PDT · 29 of 45
    Hostage to MarchonDC09122009

    ATT is full of sh*t. They innovated nothing.

    Their campaign here is to make them seem as this grand Menlo Park of fast data when in fact they are taking Microwave Internet that is already in operation in many regions and cities (for example, blasting data out at greater than fiber speeds.

    Microwave Internet is also reaching islands and rural areas that have long been fed up with the legacy Bell BSers, Comcast and the rest of the dinosaurs.

    Yet ATT blows their horn about patents and decades of research. Like I expressed similarly above “Horsesh*t!”.

    ATT has corporate privilege to expand Microwave Data to make a greater presence.

    Now just figure out how they got the money to do all this. From legacy banking relations that small operators cannot access.

    All ATT has done is watch how the small entrepreneurs have fared in the Microwave space, then they had their meetings, and they decided they should make a plan to run with it but on someone else’s dime. So all of their “decades long research” is in mapping out what areas they will install, how much it will cost to mail bomb advertising into every home for months on months, TV Ads up the wazoo and marketing reps into every town and city council to buy the necessary approvals to erect barriers to entry for the little guys who have made the whole tech a success.

    And patents? I repeat “Horsesh*t!”. We can bet their patents are meaningless with zero utility other than marketing that the old Ma Bell dinosaurs have somehow become tech wunderkinds.

  • Soros-Linked ‘October Surprise That Will End Trump’: The Campaign To Register 8 Million

    09/21/2016 1:59:03 PM PDT · 72 of 94
    Hostage to detective

    Soros is an enemy of the American people. In fact, he is an enemy of people everywhere.

    He started by stealing from fellow Jews for the Nazis.

    He continued his penchant for finding weaknesses and taking advantage of them.

    He nearly sank Britain’s currency.

    He bought bad mortgages in the USA from the Federal Reserve because Bernanke et al wanted them off the Fed books, mortgages that were insured 90% by the FDIC. He bought the mortgages at 60% to 70%, short sold them at 30% to 35%, collected 90% of the loss from the FDIC. He made huge profits in short periods because the FDIC was paying out to cover losses within 30 days.

    And the list goes on.

    Get the picture?

    Our own government is enabling, empowering, funding our enemies and traitors.

  • Kellyanne Conway Does It Right

    09/21/2016 1:51:29 PM PDT · 12 of 34
    Hostage to JudyinCanada; RoosterRedux

    09/21/2016 7:08:56 AM PDT · 34 of 36
    Hostage to agere_contra

    Excellent, thank you.


    09/21/2016 1:16:38 AM PDT · 12 of 36
    Hostage to Louis Foxwell

    Your statement and that of C.S. Lewis’ in the video I linked to, shows you two are of like mind, kindred spirits. That should be considered a great compliment.

    As for me, I am not sure if the term ‘myth’ fits with the life of Christ. To me, Christ is real and His fleshly life in scripture is real, not a myth.

    His resurrection may be considered by some as a ‘myth’, but to me it is true because if it were not, then all scripture fails and is false. So it must be true or we are all lost.

    But then, I haven’t studied the nuances in meaning of the word ‘myth’.


    09/21/2016 12:59:53 AM PDT · 9 of 36
    Hostage to Hostage

    Lewis and Tolkien Debate Myths and Lies

    Worth a look.


    09/21/2016 12:56:14 AM PDT · 8 of 36
    Hostage to 2ndDivisionVet
    Here's the conclusion from Lewis:

    Now the story of Christ is simply a true myth: a myth working on us in the same way as the others, but with this tremendous difference that it really happened.

    He was referring to mostly Greek mythology and how it had worked itself on people. He claims the story of Christ also works like a myth but with the awareness that it actually happened.

  • Like Ike? A Trump presidency could mirror Eisenhower

    09/21/2016 12:25:27 AM PDT · 9 of 85
    Hostage to montag813; TBP

    Thanks for pointing out one of the most important facts of Eisenhower’s legacy.

    And last year while running and challenged about his deportation of millions of illegals, Donald mentioned how Eisenhower accomplished it.

    And before Donald mentioned this in the press, Freepers such as yours truly had brought up the subject of Eisenhower’s success in Operation Wetback as a counterargument to those in the press who kept harping “can’t be done, can’t be done”, like Michael Medved and so many others both conservative and liberal.

    And here comes Donald saying almost verbatim what we Freepers had been discussing.

    And that is one of several examples why many of us believe Donald reads or has someone read FR.

  • Angelina Jolie files for divorce from Brad Pitt after 12 years together and requests custody [tr]

    09/21/2016 12:12:58 AM PDT · 129 of 146
    Hostage to AllAmericanGirl44

    > “You are attached to one movie she made as evidence of all that is great and holy within her.”

    You would be wrong there. I haven’t thought of Jolie since December 2014 when the film was making its debut. As I read the reaction of the press, I thought “how weird” that Hollywood was making a conservative film directed by a woman with a tabloid liberal image.

    So I read more and was intrigued.

    And since then, I haven’t paid not one iota of attention to Jolie or any of her entourage including her father. She does not register in my conscience except when I saw this thread that she was divorcing Pitt.

    And it wasn’t just one film, it is the only film that I know of that she has directed.

    To make a profit in Hollywood these days is very difficult. Most of the industry is struggling, failing, falling on its face.

    And here comes a tabloid liberal woman directing her first film that goes on to be a smashing success, and shockingly the film is conservative in an industry that kisses Obama and Clinton’s ass several times a day each day.

    I find that quite remarkable. In fact, it’s damn near unbelievable.

  • Angelina Jolie files for divorce from Brad Pitt after 12 years together and requests custody [tr]

    09/20/2016 11:45:16 PM PDT · 127 of 146
    Hostage to AllAmericanGirl44

    > Regardless, I don’t know them and what happens to their live has zero effect on me.””

    You might consider sitting back and contemplating the bigger picture.

    Because you’re posting on a premier conservative forum that goes back decades and has an illustrious history at affecting so much of America’s politics (and that is not at all hyperbole e.g. forcing compliance with transparency of FL hand counting of votes in Gore-Bush 2000, and so many more), then I will assume you are conservative-minded and want to see conservative values not only continue but thrive for current and future generations.

    You will then accept without hesitation that Hollywood is an enemy to America on many levels.

    Jolie is a big part of Hollywood.

    When she directed and brought funding to ‘Unbroken’, it was a big step out of her Hollywood mold and cinematic niche. The whole project was, perhaps unintentionally a throwback to a time when Hollywood catered to the patriotism of Americans, when movies were made that were expected to be Pro-America. Jolie directing that film was as disjoint an image of where she belonged as would be Woody Allen making a film faithful to the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.

    But making a Pro-America politically incorrect film was not the only important part of what she did. Hollywood members would have cheered and smirked for weeks if Jolie’s film had failed at the box office. But how did her film perform at the box office?

    Production budget: $65,000,000
    Domestic box office: $115,637,895
    Worldwide totals: $163,442,937

    Jolie more than doubled the investor’s money. The film was a smashing success.

    So we can bet liberals were extremely unhappy with that result.

    What it showed investors is that the sleaze in Hollywood cannot perform but conservative films are a great investment.

    So now take it in for a moment. How important is it to Americans, to American children and to future generations of Americans to have a film industry that plays up the values that made America so great?

    I personally don’t think Jolie knew what she was getting herself into. I know the film is based on a true story and that the main protagonist was still alive when Jolie was approached to take over the project, and that she met the hero himself before he died and they really hit it off. So I tend to think it was Jolie’s feminine side that promised him to make this film of his life.

    And who knows? The rumors are that those that were seeking a big Hollywood name to pick the project up knew that Jolie’s father Jon Voight had become quite conservative and, that this being a conservative story, had the people who wrote the script and who had tried but failed to get investment, had approached Voight who influenced his daughter to take it as her director debut.

    Whether Jolie and her father were on the outs or not, she said in December 2014 on camera that she loved him very much. As for him not being invited to the wedding, that was likely Pitt’s people whispering that none of the Hollywood players would bother to show if ‘conservative’ Voight was there.

    Keep in mind that the Hollywood press is as untruthful as the MSM is. Jolie was a big star and the Hollywood press just could not stand the fact that her actor father had become a conservative. Without damaging her star reputation, they likely exaggerated the estrangement between her and her father. Hollywood tabloids lie, lie, lie and believe their own lies.

    So we can never be sure of anything the Hollywood tabloid trash throws at us. But one thing is certain, Angelina Jolie made a very successful Pro-America film in Hollywood and made a lot of money for the film’s investors. There’s no denying that.

  • Go ahead, say ‘Trump’

    09/20/2016 10:16:24 PM PDT · 8 of 18
    Hostage to Harmless Teddy Bear

    You beat me to the sarcastic opportunity. Well done.

  • Go ahead, say ‘Trump’

    09/20/2016 10:14:31 PM PDT · 7 of 18
    Hostage to 2ndDivisionVet

    > “Trump’s lack of an even temperament concerns me.....My tepid support of Trump at this time is based on two major issues: The Supreme Court, and immigration policy.”

    Monsieur Ward, we’ll take your Trump vote but to ensure you do not pollute the fastidiousness of our conservative members nor lower their high collective IQ, you will need to persuade us that you will work very hard in the future to continue the removal process of GETTING YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS.

  • Angelina Jolie files for divorce from Brad Pitt after 12 years together and requests custody [tr]

    09/20/2016 9:31:10 PM PDT · 124 of 146
    Hostage to ladyellen

    When she directed ‘Unbroken’, she also brought producers meaning investment. That was a very patriotic movie, very pro-America.

    It was released late 2014 and she caught hell for it.

    Now she’s divorcing Pitt.

    I’d say she’s growing in wisdom; Prodigal Daughter, etc.

    Countless young people coming and continuing into adulthood hate their Dads or Moms for ruining their Cleaver world. With 50% divorce rates I can’t say I blame them. But many young liberal kids eventually realize existence is not nor can ever be Utopia. Wisdom sets in and conservatism emerges.

    As the age old FR saying goes “If you’re not liberal when you’re young, you have no heart. If you’re not conservative when more mature, you have no brain.”

    She said she loved her father in December 2014. I’d say she’s her father’s daughter and she’s following his path to more conservative thinking. As others have pointed out here, he also was liberal when he was younger.

  • Kaine Blasts Trump for Inciting Violence: 'I'd Like to Punch the Guy in the Face'

    09/20/2016 5:33:24 PM PDT · 96 of 178
    Hostage to Olog-hai

    Says he’d like to punch a face because .... violence.

    How do these people get elected?

  • Angelina Jolie files for divorce from Brad Pitt after 12 years together and requests custody [tr]

    09/20/2016 2:36:46 PM PDT · 111 of 146
    Hostage to jjotto

    #110 explains how I became interested.

  • Angelina Jolie files for divorce from Brad Pitt after 12 years together and requests custody [tr]

    09/20/2016 2:35:34 PM PDT · 110 of 146
    Hostage to Enchante

    I don’t follow that world much either except when a film comes out of Hollywood that is patriotic (which is rare). Angelina’s first film as a director was ‘Unbroken’ and it was extremely controversial in Hollywood.

    It was politically incorrect.

    The Hollywood news media descended on her and so it caught my eye and interest to see what kind of person she was.

    Many in the press tried to blame her agreeing to direct the film and to carry its production as influenced by her conservative father. So the subject came up as to the state of her relationship with her father. She let it be known that she loved her father very much.

    I would imagine that the Hollywood press had for years downplayed her relationship with her father because she was a Hollywood favorite, she was engaged and later married to Pitt and she was winning lots of awards. From Hollywood’s point of view. I imagine the only negative thing on her cinematic and personal history was that she was the daughter to this ‘conservative’ actor. So the solution was to describe her as on the outs with her father.That way, Hollywood could accept her as one of their own. That’s the way I see it.

    Hollywood is full of such sleaze. There’s so so much vanity in it that it logically follows that it would attract people with the worst kind of morals.

  • Revealed! Superstar Actor Raped Child Star Corey Haim

    09/20/2016 2:24:12 PM PDT · 215 of 233
    Hostage to WilliamCooper1

    > “If there really is a ring of these disgusting people, he needs to get with other child actors that were molested and get this story out.”

    You are wrong, why? Because other child actors might say he was full of lies.

    Read here for better understanding:

  • Revealed! Superstar Actor Raped Child Star Corey Haim

    09/20/2016 2:15:37 PM PDT · 213 of 233
    Hostage to ChildOfThe60s; MNDude

    > “After 30 years, couldn’t Corey have moved away or just demanded he stop?”

    When a boy is a young or mid-teen, such a boy is still very much a child. Confusion can dominate so completely that there is virtually no escape except through drugs.

    What a horrible life.

    Here is Corey Feldman’s excellent description of how monstrous Hollywood can be to young teenage boys:

    It describes very well the answers to questions that reasonable people would have, such as yours, to these types of revelations.

    The interest of this thread is that it becomes a mystery, a guessing game that pulls people in. It could very well have been Rob Reiner but it doesn’t matter. Corey Feldman’s excellent recount in the above link contains this line near the conclusion:

    “Feldman, now a father of a young son, Zen, charges that the “number one problem in Hollywood was, and is, and always will be, pedophilia.” “

    Thank God Corey Feldman was able to get out of the hell he found himself. I think his escape is miraculous. He seems a very reasonable man now, decent, sober and aware of the importance of family values. I pray he will have the strength, support, and courage one day to reveal the ‘monsters’ he refers to in the above link.

  • Angelina Jolie files for divorce from Brad Pitt after 12 years together and requests custody [tr]

    09/20/2016 11:02:31 AM PDT · 92 of 146
    Hostage to RummyChick

    I heard it on video from her mouth.

    Where do you get that there is a rift between them? Tabloid?

  • Angelina Jolie files for divorce from Brad Pitt after 12 years together and requests custody [tr]

    09/20/2016 9:28:58 AM PDT · 79 of 146
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    Angelina directed a very moving and patriotic film ‘Unbroken’ causing her to be made an outcast by the Hollywood clique.

    I don’t think she is what others are portraying her to be on this thread.

    It seems she and Brad Pitt grew apart spiritually, emotionally, and politically.

    I can’t remember the last time Pitt made a movie I felt compelled to watch. But certainly, Angelina has directed films worthy of spending time to watch.

    As for her confused child, I would expect that has nothing to do with the divorce. Likely she had motherly feelings to the child, although wrong, she likely consented and tolerated to the child’s confusion. Pitt likely ignored it whereas I would have kept the child busy with chores and work, forced compliance with the gender born with leaving no time to think about the perversity of the day.

    Both of these parents are likely liberal leaving that mark on their children but Angelina clearly loves her father who is a staunch conservative and who must be very brave to be that in such a liberal hellhole as Hollywood.

  • Analysts cite Clinton's illness in new plunge by Mexico peso

    09/19/2016 9:20:20 PM PDT · 10 of 19
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    Actually, you are correct. This ‘devaluation’ makes dollars sent back to Mexico more valuable. So when Congress and President Trump act to tax remittances to Mexico, Mexicans will still be getting the same number of pesos they have come to expect.

    The ‘devaluation’ makes way for the imminent Trump tax on dollars earned by Mexicans working or selling drugs in the USA.

  • Was This Masterpiece Painted With Ground Mummy?

    09/19/2016 4:59:33 PM PDT · 44 of 44
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    Excuse you for asking? Your remark took the thread into the gutter.

    It’s like sitting in an art history seminar and watching a hijack of an appreciation of a masterpiece get carried away into a pit of low-class Neanderthals. And in so doing it tarnishes FR as a cesspool for undesirables.

    If you have to remark about breasts and naked dead soldiers, go do some homework first before engaging a quorum of debauched minds into your habit of lewd thinking.

    The piece of art for discussion in this thread has been recognized as a masterpiece and treasure of French history nearing 200 years now.

    It’s also in the news because the Trump campaign is borrowing from it. Thus, your gutter remarks lure in those unrefined, unclean, lewd spirits who give the right caricatures of ‘deplorables’ to what Hillary operatives and supporters are hoping to find evidence of in a premier conservative social media forum.

    Congratulations for lowering the bar.

    It’s ok to use the vernacular to express disgust at liberal memes and ideas, but it’s never ok to steer to a lascivious path of smutty innuendo when it comes to historical masterpieces that are held as treasures to an ally’s history.

  • Hillary Clinton supporters are already making excuses for her election defeat

    09/19/2016 2:06:52 PM PDT · 15 of 54
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    If Golda and Maggie were around and running for President of the USA, I think Donald would have smiled and expressed confidence in those two, even if they were running on the democrat ticket.

    Of course, the democrats would never allow Golda or Maggie to run as their nominee for President.

    Hillary’s chattel of morons keep trying to make this an issue about women when in fact it is an issue about Hillary.

  • Was This Masterpiece Painted With Ground Mummy?

    09/19/2016 2:01:00 PM PDT · 42 of 44
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    Painter and painter’s circle of friends and acquaintenances both while alive and after his death.

    Why are you even asking? Are you implying the painter was sex-starved or obsessed? Are you implying the naked dead soldier is in your perception some sort of expression of a sexual perversion of the painter’s diseased mind?

    Your statements reveal more about your mind than the art of that period.