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Prior to the great depression, local benevolent societies took care of the local poor and sick folks. Many more charitable hospitals back then.

But support for those fell off as the middle class didn’t have enough to cover the depression.

For that event, it was worth it for the gov to get involved but the problem is the gov didn’t stop when the depression was over.

When govt gets involved in charity, little of the money taken in actually gets to those in need. Most of it goes to the govt itself to pay for employees and the infrastructure required to support them like buildings, office equipment, and IT.

Yes.

The people want repeal, and repubs promise repeal and replace. Notice a little disconnect here?

The prob w/insurance before commie care was that the govt was already too involved.

Welcome to the horrors of socialism. This is how the middle class is wiped out under these schemes.

What the congresswoman’s husband experienced is pretty much what poor folks experience. They hold off on care and assume the risk. The commies use this as marketing to implement gov’t controlled schemes.

In a free society, the fact that better income gets you a better life serves as the primary motivator for people to succeed, with the hazards of the poor being a “life lesson” for all to see.

But as you can see here, what happens under socialism is that middle class folks can’t improve their lives because their money is taken away from them to fund the poor, so it doesn’t matter what you do, unless you happen to be someone like Bill Gates.

Socialism imposes an artificial glass ceiling on upward mobility. The more socialism we have the worse it gets.

“What am I missing here?”

Not enough info to answer the question, but here’s a guess:

If you made that much would you choose to live in a trailer, or would you perhaps live in an area the fit your income? I think most fit their income. This would include cars and other personal property as well as kids, etc.. I don’t know if their kids are in college (or even if they have any) but that’s not an expense to ignore.

So your living your life to the tune of your expenses and along comes commie-care. Previously, let’s say your insurance is 1000 a month and $300 dollar deductible, for you, your wife, and two kids.

Now, your premium is 3000 a month and the deductible is 5000. If your income doesn’t match that increase, which is effectively like purchasing 4 cars, you might be a bit hesitant to shell out a grand for a barrage of cardiac tests.

Obama lied and people died.

In the Ferguson case, I was glad the perp wound up dead because otherwise he would have lived to attack and rob more people. I think the officer responded appropriately.

In this case I’m sorry the guy is dead, but agree with the simplistic summary, “if you resist arrest bad things can happen”.

However, what does (and has always) concern me is the over regulation in the county.

Laws against murder, rape, and robbery, etc.. have been on the books since before the united states, but today we have tens of thousands of pages of laws and regulations, all of which may ulitmately end in a confrontation with a police officer.

So, for example, if someone doesn’t like you and puts in an anonymous false complaint to child protective services and the cops show up without a warrant and you refuse to let them in, you will get taken down.

If your speeding and happen not to have your license, the cop may decide to arrest you because he needs to positively identify you to give you the ticket. This too may result in confrontation.

Glad I didn’t vote for him.

Here we see that if he’d won, he’d cooperate w/congress to do this.

I didn’t vote for Obama either, but at least w/Romney losing there was division and we had “the least effective congress ever”, which is a plus in my book.

Given the congress we have, the less they do the better.

Bottom line:

Don’t vote for democrats, regardless of their party affiliation.

“Isn’t Obama frustrating the will of Congress by refusing to enforce duly passed laws?”

As I understand it, the unconstitutional part of the EO is that he’s actually writing new law.

When he says folks here 5 years can apply for work permits, etc, this is entirely his own doing. There is no law passed by congress saying illegals in the US since 2009 or earlier may be issued permits, etc.

However, he can say something like, since there’s only X dollars in the budget for INS and there’s not enough to deport everyone, we’re only going to deport some.

Why is it that the Repubs need to tread lightly but Dems do what they want? Sorry, but I don’t agree with this “bring a pillow to a gun fight” approach.

Here’s an option:

Congress tells the directors of the departments that would implement the EO that they will be charged w/contempt of congress if they do.

They could also close ALL immigration offices.

“Specifically, what do you want them to do about this?”

I don’t see why they can’t impeach him when the new congress comes in, other than that RINO bit.

I’m for shutdown as well.

In addition, or if that is not palatable, congress should subpoena the directors in the departments responsible for implementing the dictators will and directly inform them that they will be prosecuted for breaking the law if they act in line w/that EO.

Of course, they should follow up with those prosecutions as well.

“The armed man who stopped the attack has not been identified at this time, and the police would like to talk to him.”

If he’s smart, he’ll remain anonymous. Why subject yourself to prosecution or civil suits?

Time to start taxing homosexual behavior like tobacco use.

If the prez doesn’t follow the law, why should Texas?

They should secure the border themselves, perhaps w/the help of the Minutemen, and do their own deportations.

They’re also armed well enough to deal w/any Feds that try to stop them.

“Japan” doesn’t have a problem here.

The Japanese government has a problem because it can’t fund itself through the Japanese people.

Socialism sucks, doesn’t it.

Obama has nothing to worry about since Boehner and McConnell got the top spots again.

That’s probably what he was waiting for to do this. Had TEA party folks got those spots, he wouldn’t have.

Everyone has been waiting 30 years for the border to get enforced. So this means we can do it ourselves now right?

You could also solve this problem by not allowing governments to dictate what is covered in plans.

I.e.-

What we had before: states dictate different sets of coverage.

CommieCare solution: Fed dictates coverage so state doesn’t matter.

Free Market solution: don’t dictate coverage.

Only the “useful idiots” have something to learn.

The commies instituting this know exactly what they’re doing - expanding a proletariat susceptible to their propaganda of envy towards the rich who will then give them power to make things “fair”.

Nice wiki link on this subject, including Einstein. I had never actually googled this subject before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_theories

Good thing she wasn’t an organ donor.

“Than just repeal this “tax”....”

Plus, since the bill was passed under revenue rules, meaning they only needed 50 votes for cloture, that can bring a repeal to the floor w/50 too.

Too bad McConnell won’t do that, though.

“compel free citizens to enter into private contracts”

Right - if the law was written such that you were taxed X amount and could deduct the value of privately obtained insurance from X, it would be more appropriate.

“The IRS will hold back the amount of the fee from any future tax refunds. There are no liens, levies, or criminal penalties for failing to pay the fee.”

Is anyone sure this is entirely correct? The organization that withholds refunds is the Financial Management Service. This office can withhold refunds from any federal payment to a recipient.

So if you don’t have a refund to snatch up, they can also withhold it from future social security payments.

So if you try to get away with things by not doing insurance and structuring your taxes so you don’t get a refund (have to send a check every year), are you just racking up fines and interest that will ultimately taken from SS?

I never got far enough into physics to comprehend dark matter, other than it seemed to be a “convenience” to account for “missing” matter to account for the gravitational forces needed, by calculation, to hold galaxies together.

As such, thinking back to the physics I did have (perhaps demonstrating I only know enough to screw things up) I wonder about the 19th century classical concept of the “ether”.

The ether was supposed to be the medium on which electromagnetic waves propagate. When physicists determined that light was just an electromagnetic wave, they wondered how, as a wave, it managed to propagate through space (vacuum) since other waves, like sound or water, needed a medium. So, they figured there was a mysterious “ether” that served this purpose.

They ultimately rejected this concept and basically said that light needs no medium on which to propagate.

So I wonder: is it possible that the old dudes were right and that the ether exists and it is made of dark matter?

They’re forgetting that communism in all it’s forms is evil. That includes socialism.

So it’s the creation of medicaid that’s evil, if anything.

Government doing this work precludes charity, which could be considered faith through works.

Yup. Here’s a link to confiscation in Buffalo. Apparently, registering there brings police upon your death:

http://www.truthandaction.org/buffalo-police-department-begins-gun-confiscation-deceased/

Sounds like fraud to me. Any way to check that contract he was working under?

““If you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in — you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money”

This is why the guy should be charged w/fraud.

The TSA will be checking your wetspots thoroughly at the airport.

I’m from the Gruberment, and I’m here to help.

It doesn’t end w/Gruber either.

Just imagine how many grubers there are defrauding the public in the environmentalist movement.

Plenty folks in business too.

Imagine you’re the CEO of GE. You’re banking on greenies to buy your LED lightbulbs so you can recoup your investment.

But because of the price, not enough folks are buying.

Solution easy! Get the gov’t to make incandescent bulbs illegal and then your market share will increase because folks now have to buy the product.

This happens all too often in government and has been going on awhile.

Whenever the govt tries to force feed us this kind of tripe, from now on we should provide the same answer:

No, because Gruber!

There doesn’t seem to be any problem having a procedure that keeps felons from getting guns. Is the ACLU trying to change that as well?

Since he’s a doctor, I wonder if he’ll continue the smoke-nazi agenda.

Great for criminals to know when the house is empty.

Great for stalkers to know when the stalkee is home.

“The huge difference between those rulers and Napoleon comes down to one word: totalitarianism. Napoleon was not interested in it. He wanted his subjects to support his regime. And yes, he was very tough on those who didn’t. But he didn’t want to control every aspect of his subject’s lives. He wasn’t interested in inserting the state into the existence of the private individual. Mao, Lenin, and Stalin were obsessed with that idea.”

Sounds like my kind of guy. The fact that he was an imperialist doesn’t make him a monster. In military regard, he was no different than any other imperialist, other than his success.

No, but I have seen them spray painted and heard of some being shot at in PG county.

I have no prob w/them being vandalized because I see it as racketeering by the state.

They have plenty of pictures of folks going over the posted limit but not one pic of an accident. Someone goes by, gets snapped, and gets ticket in mail. Where’s the safety issue here again?

When you look neutrally at that data showing a 100% safety record, you can only conclude that this type of speeding is safe and it must be something else causing accidents. Hence, the speed should not be punished.

Like “gotcha” politics, this is “gotcha” law enforcement.

A couple of 90 year-olds were in court petitioning for a divorce. They had been married over 70 years.

The judge shakes his head and says, “I’ll certainly grant your divorce, but I have to ask - since you two have been together so long, why even bother with a divorce. What on earth could’ve happened to make you want to get a divorce now?”

They said “We wanted to wait until the children were dead.”

If it’s “surging out of control”, meaning there are actually more incidents, I’d chalk it up to speed cameras. The big brother tyranny of the state is pushing borderline people over the edge.

I would not vote for Romney in 2012 because I figured a deadlocked congress was less harmful than Romney cooperating w/a Boehner house.

If McConnell and Boehner are not in charge, meaning senate and house are of a different character, I could actually consider voting for Romney in 2016.

However, w/RINOs running the show over there, I will NOT vote for a Romney ticket. (Presuming he makes it out of the primary.)

I wonder exactly how many neurons in my brain are now wasted because they being used to store this useless information.

My thoughts exactly, and for the past decades.

We need an undo-congress and an undo-administration to cut regs.

You’re right. Maybe hollow-victory is better for what I’m thinking.

Remember when the dems used the nuclear option to get appointments through? Mitch came out later saying that if repubs got control, they’d set it back to 60% cloture. What a fool. You think they’d slap the dems w/that by running their appointments through w/50% cloture as payback.

Talk about bringing a pillow to a gunfight.

p.s., On Fox last night they had a CA repub there and asked if he’d vote to repeal commie care, he said he’d vote to replace it.

Sheesh.

Don’t expect much here. DPRM legislature does not cooperate w/repub govs. Even though he campaigned on cutting taxes, he can’t actually do that unilaterally as governor.

It’s still nice a repub won but it’s basically a pyrrhic victory.

You can if you have access to the data.