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If you wanted to talk about the sameness of the two parties, then you should have posted another topic, or find someone who shares your interest in that topic. I think the original post fits in quite well with the sameness of the two parties. Neither party seems to care about the youth regarding fiscal matters.

"The cost is not incurred by the criminalizing. It is incurred by people’s soft attitude toward drugs—their own and other people’s. If people weren’t so durned wishy-washy on this subject, the demand would lessen. Make it uncool by public opinion."

I disagree. If we super hated murder would it stop? No. When we got the nation to condemn and criminalize alcohol during prohibition did people stop drinking? No. It continues as well to amaze me the stigmatization regarding marijuana while alcohol, a much worse drug, is no biggie.

“When one age group votes conservative and for reform and less government spending, and one votes liberal and for more programs and for more government spending and against reform, I know who I would be defending, and who I would be criticizing.

Nothing is being transferred to the young, the young are voting for deficit spending, and are defeating the old in the voting booth.”

Ansel, I am sorry if I am not being clear or rambling. I disagree with your opinion that voting republican is any different than voting liberal. I lamented the attitude that simply because it is a bit less liberal than Democrats that somehow it is conservative. That is the reason, in my opinion, that we have seen a giant political shift left overall and in the Republican party.

I also lamented that many youth vote democrat but regardless of their vote when we spend money we don’t have right now, that debt falls on future generations. That is a wealth transfer. Their money is being spent right now.

Uncle Sham I absolutely agree with everything you said.

Then I agree to disagree. If the party of W. Bush, McCain and Romney is conservative, for reform, and less govt then I want nothing to do with that kind of “limited govt fiscal conservatism.” It bears no resemblance to my views of smaller govt and fiscal conservatism.

Once again I think one of the worst things that has happened to society is that we willingly confuse not being as left as the other guy to mean being conservative. It’s the primary as a country we have leaped to the left and struggle to even find a conservative politician in govt today.

Your money is already gone, spent by your parents. The generation in charge now voted for this their entire life. At some point you have to say enough. I’ve been paying in for 20 years knowing my money isn’t in a locked box. It’s been spent by big govt politicians and I don’t expect any of it back and I won’t ask my kids to take on debt to get my money back that my generation continues to support as do the boomers in office.

What age group votes for conservatives, reform or less govt? Certainly not anybody who voted Democrat or Republican. I don’t consider being slightly to the right of Democrats on spending but still overwhelmingly for more govt and spending to be conservative and I think it is one of the greatest tragedies in America that so many believe that is a conservative position.

Debt is being placed on the backs of the young while we spend away on the here and now.

I object to any kind of wealth transfer and openly admit that given that many youth vote for Democrats. That being said however, deficit spending today is a wealth transfer on the backs of the young and SS and Medicare are a massive wealth transfer from young to old and Obamacare only exacerbates this problem.

I wish we would eliminate SS and Medicare along with Medicaid and Welfare but we don’t have a party making any push in that direction.

I just don’t understand the argument that, “we have a welfare state and it’s bad so we need a police state to keep the welfare state from costing us too much.”

That seems a move in exact opposition to freedom and personal responsibility.

I think Coulter drastically underestimates the cost incurred by criminalizing drugs. Violence, incarceration, etc. It has been catastrophically expensive in direct and indirect expenditures to maintain a war on drugs through direct enforcement and incarceration as well as indirect costs like rendering thousands of people unemployable for petty possession charges under three strikes laws. It’s no different than the catastrophic consequences seen during the prohibition of alcohol which was rightfully recognized as a giant failure though alcohol is far more dangerous than many of the drugs on the black market today.

While it saddens me to see so many youth voting for Democrats it also saddens me to see so many voting for RINOs believing they are different in any significant way from Democrats.

Regardless though I don’t think an age group voting a certain way is justification for generational theft. It’s wrong whether they vote for it or against it. If their was a party that devoted any significant time to fiscal conservatism I think that party would be a force to be reckoned with.

“the last twenty years has seen renewed debate over whether minimum wage laws reduce employment, even for low-skilled workers.”

What debate. It absolutely does increase unemployment for teens and low skill workers. Let’s just make minimum wage $1 million/hr and solve poverty once and for all. To poverty and beyond