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  • Bergoglio's Reform Was Written Before. By Martin Luther

    04/20/2018 4:52:32 AM PDT · 46 of 53
    Elsie to Luircin
    And my best guess is that after a lifetime of being told to submit to the Pope, they can’t handle a Pope who’s outright heretical.

    Yeah; they claim that; but just what HERESY has been shown?

    Seems to me that just HATE his POLITICS!

  • Bergoglio's Reform Was Written Before. By Martin Luther

    04/20/2018 4:51:01 AM PDT · 45 of 53
    Elsie to kearnyirish2
    Ephesians 2: “For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus TO DO GOOD WORKS, which God prepared in advance for us to do.” (emphasis mine)

    Did you forget a bit MORE of your 'emphasis?


    ...for us to do; so that we attain salvation.

  • Bergoglio's Reform Was Written Before. By Martin Luther

    04/20/2018 4:48:43 AM PDT · 44 of 53
    Elsie to ealgeone

    Francis?

    Hell; he’d oust ANYBODY if he had the POWER to do so!

  • Pro-gay activist ‘reinterpreted’ anti-homosexuality Bible verses in LGBT-‘affirming’ Harvard speech

    04/20/2018 4:46:52 AM PDT · 65 of 69
    Elsie to HarleyD
    I would suggest a study in human depravity.

    Anyone choosing to do this may borrow my mirror.

  • Pro-gay activist ‘reinterpreted’ anti-homosexuality Bible verses in LGBT-‘affirming’ Harvard speech

    04/20/2018 4:46:02 AM PDT · 64 of 69
    Elsie to Jim 0216
    Point?

    Merely showing what the BIBLE lists as things that GOD requires.


    Welcome to the buffet table.

    Choose what you like - reject the rest.

  • So Many Charismatic Casualties (False Prophecies, Promised Healings That Never Came, etc.)

    04/20/2018 4:39:52 AM PDT · 237 of 278
    Elsie to imardmd1
    A helper word the translators felt necessary to give the full sense that the translation should impart...

    Oh; I see...


  • So Many Charismatic Casualties (False Prophecies, Promised Healings That Never Came, etc.)

    04/20/2018 4:35:42 AM PDT · 235 of 278
    Elsie to Sontagged
    Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’


     
     
     

    JESUS: Hey Smith! Remember that boast you made about doing more than even I had done to hold the 'church' together?

    JOSEPH SMITH: Where am I?

    JESUS: Don't you remember? A few seconds ago you were in that jail.

    JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah; but where am I NOW?

    JESUS: Don't you remember? Does bang - bang ring a bell?

    JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah - that crummy gun I had was about USELESS!

    JESUS: I hope you left instructions on how to hold your church together.

    JOSEPH SMITH: Dang! I knew there was SOMETHING I was forgetting!

    JESUS: Looks like there's a power struggle going on down there.

    JOSEPH SMITH: Yeah; there was always SOMEone who wanted the power that I held - especially over the LADIES - wink wink.

    JESUS: No need to worry about that now; remember what my friend Matthew wrote down?

    JOSEPH SMITH: This? “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30)

    JESUS: That's it.

    JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

    JESUS: Nah - it was right.

    JOSEPH SMITH: Oh well; it was fun while it lasted. My buds will still get it on with the girls.

    JESUS: Uh; I'm sorry; in just a few more years; your followers will cavein to the United States government and abandon the 'Eternal Covenant' that you came up with.

    JOSEPH SMITH: ME!? YOU are the one that told me to do that!

    JESUS: Sorry; but you must have mistranslated what I told you. What part of Do NOT commit ADULTERY did you not understand?

    JOSEPH SMITH: mumble....

    JESUS: What did you say?

    JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, nothing.

    JESUS: Well; it was interesting talking to you; but now I must get back to perparing a place for those who believe in Me.

    JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, yeah; the Celestial Kingdom.

    JESUS: No...

    JOSEPH SMITH: The Telestial one?

    JESUS: Nope.

    JOSEPH SMITH: SUREly not the TERRESTRIAL one!!

    JESUS: Nope. Didn't you read that the mind of man had NOT conceived of it? Paul wrote it down in 1 Corinthians 2:9.

    JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

    JESUS: No; it wasn't.

    JOSEPH SMITH: You SURE?

    JESUS: Yes. Now I must be going: what did you say your name was again?

    JOSEPH SMITH: Joseph Smith.

    JESUS: Hmmmm. According to my Heavenly FAITHbook, you didn't sign in as one of my friends - sorry, I never knew you.

    JOSEPH SMITH: But....

  • So Many Charismatic Casualties (False Prophecies, Promised Healings That Never Came, etc.)

    04/20/2018 4:33:48 AM PDT · 234 of 278
    Elsie to Sontagged
    Having the manifest gifts of the Holy Spirit does NOT make one closer to God or superior to others, in any way.

    Au contraire, mon ami!!



     
     

    MORMON
    ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY
     

      1. I’m Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you don’t!
      2. I’m Superior; I have God’s true priesthood power -- you don’t!
      3. I’m Superior; I can go in God’s secret Temple -- you can’t!
      4. I’m Superior; I’ve been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- you’re just normal!
      5. I’m Superior; I’ll have my family with me in heaven -- you’ll be with strangers!
      6. I’m Superior; I’m becoming a God -- you aren’t!
      7. I’m Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours don’t.
      8. I’m Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures).
      9. I’m Superior; I don’t HAVE a creed - I’ve got 13 Articles of Faith.
    10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly.
    11. I’m Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. —                           -- You can’t.
    12. I’m Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics -- 
                               -- You’re a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
    13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't.
    14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't
    15. I’m Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself.
    16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't.
    17. I’m Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you don’t.
    18. I’m Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you don’t ;so you can’t.
    19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't.
    20. I’m Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably                              -- You’re on your own; when you get to wherever you’re going!
    21. I’m Superior; I’m going to hie to Kolob -- you’re going to who knows where.
    22. I’m Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you don’t.
    23. I’m Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple
                                -- You have nothing but a stupid cross.
    24. I’m Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty.
    25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy  (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!)
    26.  I'm superior; I have the "higher law" -- everyone else "lives under the "lesser law' because I say so...(over and over).
     
     
    Revision 46.5
    Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.
    All rights liable to be abused.
  • So Many Charismatic Casualties (False Prophecies, Promised Healings That Never Came, etc.)

    04/20/2018 4:31:39 AM PDT · 233 of 278
    Elsie to Sontagged
  • So Many Charismatic Casualties (False Prophecies, Promised Healings That Never Came, etc.)

    04/20/2018 4:29:58 AM PDT · 232 of 278
    Elsie to imardmd1
    And what He had yet to do to complete His Work?

    We have to ask well catechized Catholics for this answer.

    Only THEY know why His mom keeps coming to Earth to edify the faithful and give new instructions.

  • So Many Charismatic Casualties (False Prophecies, Promised Healings That Never Came, etc.)

    04/20/2018 4:27:38 AM PDT · 231 of 278
    Elsie to Mark17
    However the Book of Mormon came about, Joe Smith was a fruitcake, and a false prophet. He will not do well at the great white throne.

    Hasn't had much luck with the white horse or the white House; either!!


     



    ...the presidential campaign of Mormon Church founder Joseph Smith in 1844: “Challenging Democrat James Polk and Whig Henry Clay, Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands that ‘they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.’

    Smith viewed capturing the presidency as part of the mission of the church.

     

    Grease Spot Prophecy – Mormon Quotes

    Millennial Star, Vol. 22, No. 29, (July 21, 1860), pg. 455; 

    I prophesied by virtue of the holy Priesthood vested in me, and in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ,

    that, if Congress will not hear our petition and grant us protection, they shall be broken up as a government

    and God shall damn them, and there shall be nothing left of them – not even a grease spot!“.

  • So Many Charismatic Casualties (False Prophecies, Promised Healings That Never Came, etc.)

    04/20/2018 4:24:09 AM PDT · 230 of 278
    Elsie to Mark17; Sontagged
    ... in the lake of fire.

    AH... FIRE!!

    What we Christians will use to cook our MEAT on the grill in the summertime.

    Invite all the Mormons (the 'good' ones; that is) you want, and you'll NOT need to lay in any extra steaks!



    Yea, flesh also of beasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used sparingly;

    And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be used, only in times of winter, or of cold, or famine.

     (D&C 89:12–13)

  • So Many Charismatic Casualties (False Prophecies, Promised Healings That Never Came, etc.)

    04/20/2018 4:13:46 AM PDT · 229 of 278
    Elsie to Zionist Conspirator
    The truth of the Torah can be proven externally, without quoting the Torah.

    Oh??

    ...you merely repeat chrstian claims.

    Ok; we just read YOUR claim; now DO it!

  • So Many Charismatic Casualties (False Prophecies, Promised Healings That Never Came, etc.)

    04/20/2018 4:12:05 AM PDT · 228 of 278
    Elsie to Zionist Conspirator
    I know what chrstians believe (having once been one).
     
     
     
    One of the saddest things I've ever read...
  • So Many Charismatic Casualties (False Prophecies, Promised Healings That Never Came, etc.)

    04/20/2018 4:10:06 AM PDT · 227 of 278
    Elsie to metmom

    I think we know what knowledge OSTEEN has about Mormonism!

  • So Many Charismatic Casualties (False Prophecies, Promised Healings That Never Came, etc.)

    04/20/2018 4:08:54 AM PDT · 226 of 278
    Elsie to Sontagged

    Process; yes; but CONTENT??

    I’d be a bit more blunt than that!

  • So Many Charismatic Casualties (False Prophecies, Promised Healings That Never Came, etc.)

    04/20/2018 4:07:12 AM PDT · 225 of 278
    Elsie to Sontagged

    We need an APP that will listen to podcasts and create a transcript!

    I’ve got less and less time to search for needles in haystacks, one straw at a time!

  • So Many Charismatic Casualties (False Prophecies, Promised Healings That Never Came, etc.)

    04/20/2018 4:05:40 AM PDT · 224 of 278
    Elsie to Sontagged
    ... but Mormons themselves have stated that the “same spirit that wrote the BOM also informed Rick Joyner” of the NAR.


     
     
    I did not find much on a cursory search...
  • So Many Charismatic Casualties (False Prophecies, Promised Healings That Never Came, etc.)

    04/20/2018 3:46:39 AM PDT · 223 of 278
    Elsie to Sontagged
    I want to thank you for your teachings on Mormonism all these years.

    The Mormons; with their record keeping; make it easy.


    I've yet to find ANY that will denounced the following concepts, ideas and teachings.


     
     
     
    Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
     
     

    Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
    Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
     
     
     
    Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
     
     
     
     
    Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses , vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
     
     
    President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
     
     
     
    James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
     
     
     
    President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
     
     
     
    More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
     
     
     
    President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
     
     
    President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).
  • Pro-gay activist ‘reinterpreted’ anti-homosexuality Bible verses in LGBT-‘affirming’ Harvard speech

    04/19/2018 12:35:19 PM PDT · 59 of 69
    Elsie to Jim 0216
    Verses 28-29...


     
     
     
     
     

     
    Micah 6:8
    He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you?
    To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.


    John 6:28-29
    Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?
     Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."


    1 John 3:21-23
    Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him.
    And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.


    James 1:27
    Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.