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  • What About 'Black-on-Black Crime'?

    08/21/2014 3:14:01 PM PDT · 14 of 15
    Elsie to old and tired

    About 3,300 future Americans went into the trash cans today; never to see the light of day.

    How many unborn BLACK babies were murdered today by choosy ‘mothers’ and white serial killers?

  • In His Mug Shot, Rick Perry Comes Out Smelling Like A Texas Yellow Rose

    08/21/2014 3:09:37 PM PDT · 70 of 73
    Elsie to CatherineofAragon; Utah Binger

    You failed to ping...

    UTAH BINGER

  • In His Mug Shot, Rick Perry Comes Out Smelling Like A Texas Yellow Rose

    08/21/2014 3:07:49 PM PDT · 69 of 73
    Elsie to elcid1970
    The video is just waiting to be made; the raw material is already out there waiting to be photoshopped. I know....not enough eyebleach exists.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFEoMO0pc7k

  • In His Mug Shot, Rick Perry Comes Out Smelling Like A Texas Yellow Rose

    08/21/2014 3:04:49 PM PDT · 68 of 73
    Elsie to Tennessee Nana

    You gonna LIVE this long?

  • In His Mug Shot, Rick Perry Comes Out Smelling Like A Texas Yellow Rose

    08/21/2014 2:44:11 PM PDT · 67 of 73
    Elsie to Jane Long

    And, looking his tagline; I’d say YES.

    smoothsailing_02’s Library is Private.

  • In His Mug Shot, Rick Perry Comes Out Smelling Like A Texas Yellow Rose

  • In His Mug Shot, Rick Perry Comes Out Smelling Like A Texas Yellow Rose

    08/21/2014 2:42:12 PM PDT · 65 of 73
    Elsie to ansel12

    And it REALLY falls off on the weekend!

  • In His Mug Shot, Rick Perry Comes Out Smelling Like A Texas Yellow Rose

    08/21/2014 2:41:12 PM PDT · 63 of 73
    Elsie to re_nortex

    Under that dress you could fit a squadroon!

  • In His Mug Shot, Rick Perry Comes Out Smelling Like A Texas Yellow Rose

    08/21/2014 2:39:41 PM PDT · 62 of 73
    Elsie to CatherineofAragon
    - - -
  • In His Mug Shot, Rick Perry Comes Out Smelling Like A Texas Yellow Rose

    08/21/2014 2:33:47 PM PDT · 61 of 73
    Elsie to blueunicorn6

    OUCH!

  • In His Mug Shot, Rick Perry Comes Out Smelling Like A Texas Yellow Rose

    08/21/2014 2:32:48 PM PDT · 60 of 73
    Elsie to JPG

    “And now dear little children, who may this story read,
    To idle, silly flattering words, I pray you ne’er give heed:
    Unto an evil counsellor, close heart and ear and eye,
    And take a lesson from this tale, of the Spider and the Fly.”

  • In His Mug Shot, Rick Perry Comes Out Smelling Like A Texas Yellow Rose

    08/21/2014 2:31:38 PM PDT · 59 of 73
    Elsie to Ouchthatonehurt

    Mighty poor lighting angle for a mug shot!

  • LA's Idea of Using a Lottery to Entice Voters Is a Stinker

    08/21/2014 2:24:15 PM PDT · 20 of 22
    Elsie to Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
    LO or HI

    The HI's can be targeted later...

  • LA's Idea of Using a Lottery to Entice Voters Is a Stinker

    08/21/2014 2:23:53 PM PDT · 19 of 22
    Elsie to Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
    WTH was that about?

    Just trying to find out which info box you fit into:

    LO or HI

  • LA's Idea of Using a Lottery to Entice Voters Is a Stinker

    08/21/2014 2:22:51 PM PDT · 17 of 22
    Elsie to Kaslin
    Cut welfare; ALL of it; by 70%.

    I could guarantee you would get fantastic turnout in the next election!

  • LA's Idea of Using a Lottery to Entice Voters Is a Stinker

    08/21/2014 2:21:35 PM PDT · 16 of 22
    Elsie to Kaslin
    ... says "a crisis requires you to do something."

    Since when?

  • LA's Idea of Using a Lottery to Entice Voters Is a Stinker

    08/21/2014 2:20:33 PM PDT · 15 of 22
    Elsie to Kaslin
    LA's Idea of Using a Lottery to Entice Voters Is a Stinker

    Don't the fools know this is ILLEGAL?

  • Man Killed by Salt Lake City Police, Was Unarmed Says Family - (unarmed white killed by black cop)

    08/21/2014 12:22:40 PM PDT · 98 of 98
    Elsie to Elsie
    The Book of Ether

    Chapter 15:31 

    And it came to pass that after he had smitten off the head of Shiz, that Shiz raised up on his hands and fell; and after that he had struggled for breath, he died.
  • Man Killed by Salt Lake City Police, Was Unarmed Says Family - (unarmed white killed by black cop)

    08/21/2014 12:20:53 PM PDT · 97 of 98
    Elsie to Elsie
    And they leave NO traces; either!

    And yet the BOOK says...


    Ether 14:22
    And so swift and speedy was the war that there was none left to bury the dead, but they did march forth from the shedding of blood to the shedding of blood, leaving the bodies of both men, women, and children strewed upon the face of the land, to become a prey to the worms of the flesh.

  • Man Killed by Salt Lake City Police, Was Unarmed Says Family - (unarmed white killed by black cop)

    08/21/2014 12:06:28 PM PDT · 96 of 98
    Elsie to Utah Binger
    Hope they’re not Lamanites though as they’re very good with that weapon.

    And they leave NO traces; either!



     
     
    The BIGGEST battle EVER recorded; and not ONE even teeny bit of evidence of it can be found!!
     
     


    The Book of Ether

    Chapter 15

    Millions of the Jaredites are slain in battle—Shiz and Coriantumr assemble all the people to mortal combat—The Spirit of the Lord ceases to strive with them—The Jaredite nation is utterly destroyed—Only Coriantumr remains.

     And it came to pass when Coriantumr had recovered of his wounds, he began to remember the awords which Ether had spoken unto him.

     He saw that there had been slain by the sword already nearly atwo millions of his people, and he began to sorrow in his heart; yea, there had been slain two millions of mighty men, and also their wives and their children.

     He began to repent of the evil which he had done; he began to remember the words which had been spoken by the mouth of all the prophets, and he saw them that they were fulfilled thus far, every whit; and his soul amourned and refused to be bcomforted.

     And it came to pass that he wrote an epistle unto Shiz, desiring him that he would spare the people, and he would give up the kingdom for the sake of the lives of the people.

     And it came to pass that when Shiz had received his epistle he wrote an epistle unto Coriantumr, that if he would give himself up, that he might slay him with his own sword, that he would spare the lives of the people.

     And it came to pass that the people repented not of their iniquity; and the people of Coriantumr were stirred up to anger against the people of Shiz; and the people of Shiz were stirred up to anger against the people of Coriantumr; wherefore, the people of Shiz did give battle unto the people of Coriantumr.

     And when Coriantumr saw that he was about to fall he fled again before the people of Shiz.

     And it came to pass that he came to the waters of Ripliancum, which, by interpretation, is large, or to exceed all; wherefore, when they came to these waters they pitched their tents; and Shiz also pitched his tents near unto them; and therefore on the morrow they did come to battle.

     And it came to pass that they fought an exceedingly sore battle, in which Coriantumr was wounded again, and he fainted with the loss of blood.

     10 And it came to pass that the armies of Coriantumr did press upon the armies of Shiz that they beat them, that they caused them to flee before them; and they did flee southward, and did pitch their tents in a place which was called Ogath.

     11 And it came to pass that the army of Coriantumr did pitch their tents by the hill Ramah; and it was that same hill where my father Mormon did ahide up the records unto the Lord, which were sacred.

     12 And it came to pass that they did gather together all the people upon all the face of the land, who had not been slain, save it was Ether.

     13 And it came to pass that Ether did abehold all the doings of the people; and he beheld that the people who were for Coriantumr were gathered together to the army of Coriantumr; and the people who were for Shiz were gathered together to the army of Shiz.

     14 Wherefore, they were for the space of four years gathering together the people, that they might get all who were upon the face of the land, and that they might receive all the strength which it was possible that they could receive.

     15 And it came to pass that when they were all gathered together, every one to the army which he would, with their wives and their children—both men, women and children being armed with aweapons of war, having shields, and bbreastplates, and head-plates, and being clothed after the manner of war—they did march forth one against another to battle; and they fought all that day, and conquered not.

     16 And it came to pass that when it was night they were weary, and retired to their camps; and after they had retired to their camps they took up a howling and a alamentation for the loss of the slain of their people; and so great were their cries, their howlings and lamentations, that they did rend the air exceedingly.

     17 And it came to pass that on the morrow they did go again to battle, and great and terrible was that day; nevertheless, they conquered not, and when the night came again they did rend the air with their cries, and their howlings, and their mournings, for the loss of the slain of their people.

     18 And it came to pass that Coriantumr wrote again an epistle unto Shiz, desiring that he would not come again to battle, but that he would take the kingdom, and spare the lives of the people.

     19 But behold, the aSpirit of the Lord had ceased striving with them, and bSatan had full power over the chearts of the people; for they were given up unto the hardness of their hearts, and the blindness of their minds that they might be destroyed; wherefore they went again to battle.

     20 And it came to pass that they fought all that day, and when the night came they slept upon their swords.

     21 And on the morrow they fought even until the night came.

     22 And when the night came they were adrunken with anger, even as a man who is drunken with wine; and they slept again upon their swords.

     23 And on the morrow they fought again; and when the night came they had all fallen by the sword save it were fifty and two of the people of Coriantumr, and sixty and nine of the people of Shiz.

     24 And it came to pass that they slept upon their swords that night, and on the morrow they fought again, and they contended in their might with their swords and with their shields, all that day.

     25 And when the night came there were thirty and two of the people of Shiz, and twenty and seven of the people of Coriantumr.

     26 And it came to pass that they ate and slept, and prepared for death on the morrow. And they were large and mighty men as to the strength of men.

     27 And it came to pass that they fought for the space of three hours, and they fainted with the loss of blood.

     28 And it came to pass that when the men of Coriantumr had received sufficient strength that they could walk, they were about to flee for their lives; but behold, Shiz arose, and also his men, and he swore in his wrath that he would slay Coriantumr or he would perish by the sword.

     29 Wherefore, he did pursue them, and on the morrow he did overtake them; and they fought again with the sword. And it came to pass that when they had aall fallen by the sword, save it were Coriantumr and Shiz, behold Shiz had fainted with the loss of blood.

     30 And it came to pass that when Coriantumr had leaned upon his sword, that he rested a little, he smote off the head of Shiz.

     31 And it came to pass that after he had smitten off the head of Shiz, that Shiz raised up on his hands and afell; and after that he had struggled for breath, he died.

     32 And it came to pass that aCoriantumr fell to the earth, and became as if he had no life.

     33 And the Lord spake unto Ether, and said unto him: Go forth. And he went forth, and beheld that the words of the Lord had all been fulfilled; and he afinished his brecord; (and the chundredth part I have not written) and he hid them in a manner that the people of Limhi did find them.

     34 Now the last words which are written by aEther are these: Whether the Lord will that I be translated, or that I suffer the will of the Lord in the flesh, it mattereth not, if it so be that I am bsaved in the kingdom of God. Amen.

     

    https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/ether/15

     

     

  • Have You Heard About the Salt Lake City Shooting?

    08/21/2014 4:53:17 AM PDT · 22 of 25
    Elsie to Nea Wood
    I wonder what they'd say if they could see what's happening now.

    HMMMmmm...


     
     
     
    Mayflower Compact
     
    In the name of God, Amen. We, whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, King, defender of the Faith, etc.

    Having undertaken, for the Glory of God, and advancements of the Christian faith and honor of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the Northern parts of Virginia, do by these presents, solemnly and mutually, in the presence of God, and one another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil body politic; for our better ordering, and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal laws, ordinances, acts, constitutions, and offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the colony; unto which we promise all due submission and obedience.In witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape Cod the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France, and Ireland, the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth, 1620.

     
     
     



    Where did it go?

  • Have You Heard About the Salt Lake City Shooting?

    08/21/2014 4:51:35 AM PDT · 21 of 25
    Elsie to Nea Wood
    I wonder what they'd say if they could see what's happening now.

    "You were warned!"

  • Have You Heard About the Salt Lake City Shooting?

    08/21/2014 4:50:28 AM PDT · 20 of 25
    Elsie to dalebert
    The white cop shot a THug law breaker and the black cop in Salt Lake shot an innocent man.

    Well; until proven guilty...

    But, since we try very few dead people now in this country; he will forever be 'innocent'.

  • Have You Heard About the Salt Lake City Shooting?

    08/21/2014 4:47:58 AM PDT · 18 of 25
    Elsie to skeeter
    There’s no life so cheap in this country today than that of a straight white male.

    Oh?

    Today; like any normal workday in America, choosy 'mothers' and serial killers will snuff out the lives of about 3,300 future Americans.

    Where are the riots?

  • Have You Heard About the Salt Lake City Shooting?

    08/21/2014 4:45:34 AM PDT · 17 of 25
    Elsie to Kaslin
    He reportedly was trying to pull up his pants in order to get down on the floor.

    HMMMmmm...

  • Obama's Ferguson Remarks Ignore Bloody Chicago Weekend

    08/21/2014 4:41:14 AM PDT · 8 of 8
    Elsie to Spok

    "If I had another son..."

  • Obama's Ferguson Remarks Ignore Bloody Chicago Weekend

    08/21/2014 4:39:24 AM PDT · 7 of 8
    Elsie to raptor22
    Thirty-six people are shot in Chicago in a single weekend, seven of them fatally, yet the FBI sends 40 agents to Missouri to investigate the shooting death of one young black male.

    While on any given workday, choosy 'mothers' and serial killers will end the lives of about 3,300 future Americans.

    Where's the outrage?

  • Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source

    08/21/2014 4:26:26 AM PDT · 102 of 116
    Elsie to gunsequalfreedom
    You don't even honk your horn. You just sit there and wait quietly, right?

    You'd BETTER!

    I've had a gun shown to me before for doing this!

  • Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source

    08/21/2014 4:24:43 AM PDT · 101 of 116
    Elsie to WilliamofCarmichael

    Raise up a child; in the way he should go...

  • Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source

    08/21/2014 4:22:04 AM PDT · 100 of 116
    Elsie to Cincinatus' Wife
    ... he ordered Michael Brown and his friend Dorain Johnson to stop walking in the middle of the road because they were obstructing traffic.

    Why do they DO that?

    Walk in the street when there are perfectly good sidewalks available?

    Even when driving, they'll spot another friends(?) vehicle coming their way on the road; and they'll stop in the middle of the street; both of them backing up traffic while they exercise their 'right' to talk to the folks in the other car.

  • Man Killed by Salt Lake City Police, Was Unarmed Says Family - (unarmed white killed by black cop)

    08/21/2014 4:15:55 AM PDT · 91 of 98
    Elsie to Elsie
    It helps to control a lot of the media in your location...



     
     

    Party ownership of the print media
    made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
    and the film and radio carried the process further.


     



    16. Ministry Of Truth

    .......

    The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below.

    The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further.

    The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.

    Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance.

    When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify.

    In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building.

    As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames.

    What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead.

    In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs.

    There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed.

    And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence.

     
     

  • Man Killed by Salt Lake City Police, Was Unarmed Says Family - (unarmed white killed by black cop)

    08/21/2014 4:11:18 AM PDT · 90 of 98
    Elsie to Elsie
    MormonISM and Islam in the same thread??



    “I Will Be a Second Mohammed”

    In the heat of the Missouri “Mormon War” of 1838, Joseph Smith made the following claim, “I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was ‘the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword.’ So shall it eventually be with us—‘Joseph Smith or the Sword!’ ”[1]

    It is most interesting that a self-proclaimed Christian prophet would liken himself to Mohammed, the founder of Islam. His own comparison invites us to take a closer look as well. And when we do, we find some striking—and troubling—parallels. Consider the following.

    • Mohammed and Joseph Smith both had humble beginnings. Neither had formal religious connections or upbringing, and both were relatively uneducated. Both founded new religions by creating their own scriptures. In fact, followers of both prophets claim these scriptures are miracles since their authors were the most simple and uneducated of men.[2]

    • Both prophets claim of having angel visitations, and of receiving divine revelation to restore pure religion to the earth again. Mohammed was told that both Jews and Christians had long since corrupted their scriptures and religion. In like manner, Joseph Smith was told that all of Christianity had become corrupt, and that consequently the Bible itself was no longer reliable. In both cases, this corruption required a complete restoration of both scripture and religion. Nothing which preceded either prophet could be relied upon any longer. Both prophets claim they were used of God to restore eternal truths which once existed on earth, but had been lost due to human corruption.

    • Both prophets created new scripture which borrowed heavily from the Bible, but with a substantially new “spin.” In his Koran, Mohammed appropriates a number of Biblical themes and characters—but he changes the complete sense of many passages, claiming to “correct” the Bible. In so doing he changes many doctrines, introducing his own in their place. In like manner, Joseph Smith created the Book of Mormon, much of which is plagiarized directly from the King James Bible. Interestingly, the Book of Mormon claims that this same Bible has been substantially corrupted and is therefore unreliable. In addition, Joseph Smith went so far as to actually create his own version of the Bible itself, the “Inspired Version,” in which he both adds and deletes significant portions of text, claiming he is “correcting” it. In so doing he also changes many doctrines, introducing his own in their place.

    • As a part of their new scriptural “spin,” both prophets saw themselves as prophesied in scripture, and both saw themselves as a continuation of a long line of Biblical prophets. Mohammed saw himself as a continuation of the ministry of Moses and Jesus. Joseph Smith saw himself as a successor to Enoch, Melchizedek, Joseph and Moses. Joseph Smith actually wrote himself into his own version of the Bible—by name.

    • Both prophets held up their own scripture as superior to the Bible. Mohammed claimed that the Koran was a perfect copy of the original which was in heaven. The Koran is therefore held to be absolutely perfect, far superior to the Bible and superceding it. In like manner, Joseph Smith also made the following claim. “I told the Brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding its precepts, than by any other book.”[3]

    • Despite their claim that the Bible was corrupt, both prophets admonished their followers to adhere to its teachings. An obvious contradiction, this led to selective acceptance of some portions and wholesale rejection of others. As a result, the Bible is accepted by both groups of followers only to the extent that it agrees with their prophet’s own superior revelation.

    • Both Mohammed and Joseph Smith taught that true salvation was to be found only in their respective religions. Those who would not accept their message were considered “infidels,” pagans or Gentiles. In so doing, both prophets became the enemy of genuine Christianity, and have led many people away from the Christ of the Bible.

    • Both prophets encountered fierce opposition to their new religions and had to flee from town to town because of threats on their lives. Both retaliated to this opposition by forming their own militias. Both ultimately set up their own towns as model societies.

    • Both Mohammed and Joseph Smith left unclear instructions about their successors. The majority of Mohammed’s followers, Sunni Muslims, believe they were to elect their new leader, whereas the minority, Shiite Muslims, look to Alī ibn Abī Ṭālib, whom they consider Divinely appointed, as the rightful successor to Muhammad, and the first imam. (Ali was the cousin and son-in-law of the Islamic prophet Muhammad). Similarly, the majority of Joseph Smith's followers, Mormons, believed their next prophet should have been the existing leader of their quorum of twelve apostles, whereas the minority, RLDS, believed Joseph Smith's own son should have been their next prophet. Differences on this issue, and many others, have created substantial tension between these rival groups of each prophet.

    • Mohammed taught that Jesus was just another of a long line of human prophets, of which he was the last. He taught that he was superior to Christ and superceded Him. In comparison, Joseph Smith also made the following claim.

    “I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him, but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.”[4] In light of these parallels, perhaps Joseph Smith's claim to be a second Mohammed unwittingly became his most genuine prophecy of all.


    [1] Joseph Smith made this statement at the conclusion of a speech in the public square at Far West, Missouri on October 14, 1838. This particular quote is documented in Fawn M. Brodie, No Man Knows My History, second edition, (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1971), p. 230–231. Fawn Brodie’s footnote regarding this speech contains valuable information, and follows. “Except where noted, all the details of this chapter [16] are taken from the History of the [Mormon] Church. This speech, however, was not recorded there, and the report given here is based upon the accounts of seven men. See the affidavits of T.B. Marsh, Orson Hyde, George M. Hinkle, John Corrill, W.W. Phelps, Samson Avard, and Reed Peck in Correspondence, Orders, etc., pp. 57–9, 97–129. The Marsh and Hyde account, which was made on October 24, is particularly important. Part of it was reproduced in History of the [Mormon] Church, Vol. III, p. 167. See also the Peck manuscript, p. 80. Joseph himself barely mentioned the speech in his history; see Vol. III, p. 162.”

    [2] John Ankerberg & John Weldon, The Facts on Islam, (Eugene, OR: Harvest House Publishers, 1998), pp.8–9. Eric Johnson, Joseph Smith & Muhammed, (El Cajon, CA: Mormonism Research Ministry, 1998), pp. 6–7.

    [3] Documentary History of the [Mormon] Church, vol.4, pp.461.

    [4] Documentary History of the [Mormon] Church, vol.6, pp.408–409.



  • Man Killed by Salt Lake City Police, Was Unarmed Says Family - (unarmed white killed by black cop)

    08/21/2014 4:07:08 AM PDT · 89 of 98
    Elsie to DoodleDawg
    When the police shot that unarmed black kid in an Ohio Walmart a couple of week ago, or that black guy in LA then neither one made the national news because there were no riots or anything like that.

    Slackers!

  • Man Killed by Salt Lake City Police, Was Unarmed Says Family - (unarmed white killed by black cop)

    08/21/2014 4:05:50 AM PDT · 88 of 98
    Elsie to AFreeBird
    And the Mormons in SLC are gonna riot.

    Given the news coming from Islam these days...

    ...this bit of history might be influencial...




    The gruesome be headings of some 40 Ute corpses in 1850, heads stacked in boxes,
    and hung by their long hair from the eves of buildings at Fort Utah,
     has long been ignored, “You didn’t see the Indians beheading the Mormons.”
     
    -- Historian Robert Carter
  • Man Killed by Salt Lake City Police, Was Unarmed Says Family - (unarmed white killed by black cop)

    08/21/2014 4:01:17 AM PDT · 86 of 98
    Elsie to MeshugeMikey
    we NEED a powerful Spokeperson...of the cloth

    Me!

    Me!!

    Me!!!

    I used to be a missionary; in France. Does THAT count??

  • Man Killed by Salt Lake City Police, Was Unarmed Says Family - (unarmed white killed by black cop)

    08/21/2014 3:55:37 AM PDT · 85 of 98
    Elsie to BeadCounter
    On the other hand, Salt Lake City isn’t a place with a whole lot of black people vs. say, Hispanics.

    Dang!

    I wonder WHY???







    "You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

    The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

    This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

    Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.



    Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

    2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

    Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'



    August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

    "The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

    "He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

    "That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

    (Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)



    1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

    "The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."



    We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

    According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.



    Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

    "The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

    The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

    (Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).



    When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

    "...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."



    When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

    "Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

    (Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)





    Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.

     

    “I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

    At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.

    One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.

     

    (Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)

     



     
  • Man Killed by Salt Lake City Police, Was Unarmed Says Family - (unarmed white killed by black cop)

    08/21/2014 3:54:01 AM PDT · 84 of 98
    Elsie to MeshugeMikey
    Taylor had a criminal record...and was Not a choirboy?

    Correct: he was a DOUGHBOY.

    Pillsbury has not responded to requests for information as yet.

  • Man Killed by Salt Lake City Police, Was Unarmed Says Family - (unarmed white killed by black cop)

    08/21/2014 3:52:02 AM PDT · 83 of 98
    Elsie to Cubs Fan
    In furguson the cops race was declared instantly, Salt lake city its being hidden

    It helps to control a lot of the media in your location...

  • Man Killed by Salt Lake City Police, Was Unarmed Says Family - (unarmed white killed by black cop)

    08/21/2014 3:50:59 AM PDT · 82 of 98
    Elsie to Michael.SF.
    This is totally shocking; A black cop in SLC?

    Why not?

    MormonISM got a talking to by GOD in 1978 about black PRIESTS.

  • Man Killed by Salt Lake City Police, Was Unarmed Says Family - (unarmed white killed by black cop)

    08/21/2014 3:49:07 AM PDT · 81 of 98
    Elsie to ifinnegan
  • Man Killed by Salt Lake City Police, Was Unarmed Says Family - (unarmed white killed by black cop)

    08/21/2014 3:40:06 AM PDT · 80 of 98
    Elsie to hadaclueonce; Utah Binger
    In Salt Lake City you will need a guide to find a liquor store.
    Very rare and far between.

    Input?

  • Man Killed by Salt Lake City Police, Was Unarmed Says Family - (unarmed white killed by black cop)

    08/21/2014 3:38:18 AM PDT · 79 of 98
    Elsie to Dallas59

    But it’s GOOD for you!

  • Death of a Teenager

    08/20/2014 12:40:59 PM PDT · 55 of 58
    Elsie to unlearner
    This was a reference to Obama’s comment.



    "If I had another son..."

  • Death of a Teenager

    08/20/2014 12:37:26 PM PDT · 53 of 58
    Elsie to Kaslin

    He would have weighed more; but some body fluids seem to have leaked out...

  • Death of a Teenager

    08/20/2014 12:34:23 PM PDT · 52 of 58
    Elsie to Kaslin
    About 3,300 unwanted Americans will die today; forever having THEIR chance to grow up to even BE a teenager snatched from them by a choosy 'mother' and a serial killer.

    Weep for THIS; America!

  • Romney Romps Over GOP Rivals: New Zogby Analytics Poll

    08/20/2014 12:32:04 PM PDT · 91 of 106
    Elsie to Jim Robinson

    Perhaps Mr. K has not heard the full story.

  • Romney Romps Over GOP Rivals: New Zogby Analytics Poll

    08/20/2014 12:30:38 PM PDT · 90 of 106
    Elsie to UMCRevMom@aol.com
    He beats Chris Christy, Jeb Bush, & probably value Mitt Romney for his intelligence, ability to accomplish and his moral values.

    Could you expand a bit on this?

  • Romney Romps Over GOP Rivals: New Zogby Analytics Poll

    08/20/2014 12:29:54 PM PDT · 89 of 106
    Elsie to UMCRevMom@aol.com
    Basically, I TRUST Mitt

    I will NOT 'trust' a man so deceived that he cannot see the religion he has chosen is a heresy.

    We don't need anyone with such poor discernment leading OUR country!

  • Romney Romps Over GOP Rivals: New Zogby Analytics Poll

    08/20/2014 12:27:14 PM PDT · 88 of 106
    Elsie to x
    But he's not running and most likely he won't run, so it's not really any reflection on "how well he's doing." If anything, it indicates how divided the vote is between the others who actually might run.


    Office of First President & Living Prophet®:

    November 8, 2012

    Fellow MORMON Freeper Christians!!
     
    I must apologize and ask for forgiveness from you all.
     
    As you know, we at Headquarters NEVER tell you pew warmers how to vote. It says so right in our press releases. Anyway, we were ALL thrilled to the max when there were two – TWO! – MORMONs being touted in the primaries: Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman.
     
    Talk in our upper chambers high above SLC was how our gods were favoring us with these men; who had prepared their entire lives for an opportunity to save this Nation; which so badly needs guidance: OUR guidance even! So naturally, I and the other twelve analyzed and discussed the situation.
     
    Consensus was that the voters should listen to the inner urging and vote for the one they wanted; but that seemed to be leaving WAY too much to chance.
     
    I decided, that since I am the ONLY man on earth that can hear GOD’s voice, that I would pray for wisdom and clarity in the matter.
     
    I hadn’t used the fleece in a while, so I questioned GOD with a test. A paper, with Romney on one side and Huntsman on the other was to be placed by the air conditioning vent high above my desk in the sumptuous office the Full Tithers have provided.
    When the air would kick in later in the evening, while I was home, the paper would be blown down and whomever GOD wanted would then be visible on the upper surface.
     
    As you can probably guess, when I came in the next day, the paper had landed on my desk, with Mitt’s name on top.
    Last night, I was staying late, praying to GOD about how it was even possible that Mitt lost, when the janitorial cleaning crew came in. Being surprised to find me here, they apologized for interrupting me. I said to them, “It mattereth not, as I was about to leave anyway.”
     
    As I was going out the door, the foreman of the crew just happened to mention that my office is ALWAYS so neat and tidy, never anything out of place, that they barely have to do anything to clean it up. Then one of the sweepers said, “Except that time in the spring when we came in to clean and found a paper with Huntman’s name on the floor by your desk. We put it back on your desk and left.
     
     
    Tommy M.
     
    PS Keep praying that Huntsman will add an “H” to his name. Jon looks so dang effeminate!
     
    Onward to 2016!!!
  • Romney Romps Over GOP Rivals: New Zogby Analytics Poll

    08/20/2014 12:23:35 PM PDT · 85 of 106
    Elsie to Kazan; Jim Robinson
    You want to tell that to JimRob, who, correctly, decided Romney was a better choice than Obama in the last election cycle?

    Sigh...

    Mr. K; you KNOW it is VERY impolite to speak of those and not ping them.

    Jim may just want to chime in on...

    ...the REST of the story!