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  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/25/2014 3:23:54 AM PDT · 136 of 138
    Elsie to metmom
    And in light of Romans 14, what’s the big deal if someone doesn’t observe the Sabbath as you decide they should?

    Just WHO is this 'someone'?

    A JEW or a Gentile believer?

  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/25/2014 3:20:51 AM PDT · 135 of 138
    Elsie to boatbums
    ...through the Pope - declared something to be binding but which was changed at a later date.

    through the Pope???

    Pish-tosh!

    We ALL know the POPE does NOT set policy for the Church; but the mysterious (and infallible) Magisterium - thru a process where SOME of them get the info straight from GOD (evidently) and the MAJORITY vote by these folks actually set the Rules!!

  • Rooftop Solar Companies Cash In on Government Handouts

    07/25/2014 3:16:49 AM PDT · 17 of 21
    Elsie to AirForce-TechSgt
    Gotta love the pic. It is from Germany.

    http://media.townhall.com/townhall/reu/ha/2013/240/2013-08-28T111252Z_1_CBRE97R0V5U00_RTROPTP_3_GERMANY-ELECTION-ENERGY.JPG

  • Rooftop Solar Companies Cash In on Government Handouts

    07/25/2014 3:14:36 AM PDT · 16 of 21
    Elsie to AirForce-TechSgt
    The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.

    And the wooly mammoth found out what happens when another species invades your borders; too!

  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/25/2014 3:11:19 AM PDT · 134 of 138
    Elsie to Resettozero

    But some cannot seem to separate "this" from "you".


    Matthew 16:13-18
     
     
    When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?"  
    They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets."  
    "But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"  
    Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ,  the Son of the living God."  
    Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.   And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades  will not overcome it.    I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be  bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

     

     

  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/25/2014 3:08:49 AM PDT · 133 of 138
    Elsie to Resettozero
    Here is some more...


    Matthew 16:13-18
     13.  When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?"
     14.  They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets."
     15.  "But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"
     16.  Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ,  the Son of the living God."
     17.  Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.
     18.  And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades  will not overcome it.
     19.  I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be  bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
     
    Chapters and verses were invented later; as we all know...
     
       When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?"   They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets."   "But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"  Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ,  the Son of the living God."   Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.   And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades  will not overcome it.    I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be  bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
     
     
    Reading the text we can see that Jesus is talking to the GROUP of disciples; and He is answered by the impulsive one - SIMON Peter.
    After dealing with SIMON Peter, He states - to the group -  "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
     
    Catholic teaching limits this to SIMON Peter.
  • Rooftop Solar Companies Cash In on Government Handouts

    07/24/2014 7:48:27 PM PDT · 12 of 21
    Elsie to USFRIENDINVICTORIA
    3. plant trees!

    Under the leaves is a good 15° drop in temp!

  • Rooftop Solar Companies Cash In on Government Handouts

    07/24/2014 7:47:30 PM PDT · 11 of 21
    Elsie to driftdiver

    Just wait until they try to trade in their precious little electric cars...

  • This baby's death is on your conscience, Putin - damn you for centuries (w/ photos of the departed)

    07/24/2014 7:44:55 PM PDT · 80 of 80
    Elsie to mbj

    I wonder if they’d like a crack at our border coyotes?

  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/24/2014 7:43:37 PM PDT · 127 of 138
    Elsie to boatbums

    Sure!

    What was loosed after it was bound?

  • Christian evangelists seek out children at Portland playgrounds, pools

    07/24/2014 7:42:49 PM PDT · 176 of 178
    Elsie to redleghunter

    Some in this choir sing off key...

  • Christian evangelists seek out children at Portland playgrounds, pools

    07/24/2014 12:54:59 PM PDT · 169 of 178
    Elsie to imardmd1
    And you have the right to inflict your idea of a penalty on him/her for exercising that right.

    Oh??

    The State may object to some of these personal penalties being dealt out.

  • Christian evangelists seek out children at Portland playgrounds, pools

    07/24/2014 12:52:41 PM PDT · 168 of 178
    Elsie to imardmd1
    Continuing the context:

    ...while missing the attitude.

  • Christian evangelists seek out children at Portland playgrounds, pools

    07/24/2014 12:52:11 PM PDT · 167 of 178
    Elsie to imardmd1
    And the relation to the CEF, which is the issue under consideration?

    SURE it does...

  • Christian evangelists seek out children at Portland playgrounds, pools

    07/24/2014 12:51:03 PM PDT · 166 of 178
    Elsie to imardmd1

    yes

  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/24/2014 12:49:30 PM PDT · 118 of 138
    Elsie to circlecity; af_vet_1981
    Linus was the first Bishop of Rome.

    I wonder who the leaders were in the seven churches of Revelation???

  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/24/2014 12:48:33 PM PDT · 117 of 138
    Elsie to af_vet_1981
    Do you have an alternative fellowship of churches that has an unbroken line of apostolic succession ?

    The ONLY Catholic churches mentioned in the Bible, are the ones in Revelation.

    From which of them did ROME spring?

  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/24/2014 12:47:12 PM PDT · 116 of 138
    Elsie to af_vet_1981

    It’s a poor workman that blames his tools...

  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/24/2014 12:46:27 PM PDT · 115 of 138
    Elsie to Elsie; af_vet_1981
    What has your chosen religion LOOSED lately?

    Nothing; eh?

  • Christian evangelists seek out children at Portland playgrounds, pools

    07/24/2014 8:25:04 AM PDT · 153 of 178
    Elsie to imardmd1
    (BTW, font-blasting is not exactly a polite way to present one's theology, as it belongs in the same category as other "in-your-face" tactics.)

    Neither is sword swinging, but it got Baalam's asses' attention!


     


     
    Matthew 15:16
       "Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them.

    Matthew 23
     
      1.  Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
      2.  "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
      3.  So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
      4.  They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
      5.  "Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries  wide and the tassels on their garments long;
      6.  they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues;
      7.  they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them `Rabbi.'
      8.  "But you are not to be called `Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.
      9.  And do not call anyone on earth `father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
     10.  Nor are you to be called `teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ.
     11.  The greatest among you will be your servant.
     12.  For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
     13.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. 
     14.  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 
     15.   "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 
     16.  "Woe to you, blind guides! You say, `If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.'
     17.  You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?
     18.  You also say, `If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.'
     19.  You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
     20.  Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it.
     21.  And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it.
     22.  And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.
     23.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
     24.  You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
     25.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
     26.  Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
     27.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!  You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
     28.  In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
     29.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
     30.  And you say, `If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
     31.  So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.
     32.  Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
     33.  "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
     34.  Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
     35.  And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
     36.  I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
     37.  "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
     38.  Look, your house is left to you desolate.
     39.  For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, `Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.' "
     


    Mark 7:26-27
     26.  The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.
     27.  "First let the children eat all they want," he told her, "for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
     
  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/24/2014 8:20:36 AM PDT · 97 of 138
    Elsie to af_vet_1981
    That is my point; our personal interpretations are not binding or loosening, but rather those interpreted by the LORD, the prophets, and the apostles are binding.

    We hear ya on that BINDIUNG thing.

    What has your chosen religion LOOSED lately?

  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/24/2014 5:32:35 AM PDT · 75 of 138
    Elsie to af_vet_1981
    ...and cults teaching heresies that destroy souls.

    While 'the CHURCH' teaches goofy stuff about Mary that is supposed to help SAVE souls...

  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/24/2014 5:31:28 AM PDT · 74 of 138
    Elsie to af_vet_1981
    The point is that private interpretation spawns false heresy which leads believers to fall away and be lost. <>P>HMMMmmm...

    Wouldn't "false heresy" equal Truth?

  • The Odds of a GOP Wave Are Increasing

    07/24/2014 5:29:46 AM PDT · 37 of 40
    Elsie to hal ogen
    No votes for RINOs. It make take forever to rid ourselves of these freaks...however, never again will I vote for a RINO.

    You make Mitt sad...


  • The Odds of a GOP Wave Are Increasing

    07/24/2014 5:27:08 AM PDT · 36 of 40
    Elsie to Walrus

    There is no “slowly building undercurrent” There is only committment and hard work.

  • The Odds of a GOP Wave Are Increasing

    07/24/2014 5:26:18 AM PDT · 35 of 40
    Elsie to Clintonfatigued
    Does this article make you feel any better?

    Feelings are reserved for Liberals.

    They use them to make up their minds when voting.

  • U.N. launches probe into alleged Israeli crimes in Gaza

    07/24/2014 5:24:35 AM PDT · 14 of 14
    Elsie to illiac
    U.N. launches probe into alleged Israeli crimes in Gaza

    Dog bites man...




    U.N. launches probe into known Hamas crimes in Israel

    Man bites DOG!

  • Christian evangelists seek out children at Portland playgrounds, pools

    07/24/2014 5:07:45 AM PDT · 134 of 178
    Elsie to imardmd1
    Do you want someone coming up to you and in your face yelling “You’re going to Hell without Jesus” which is basically what those people are doing.

    I just HATE when that happens!!

    Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

    John 3:18

  • Christian evangelists seek out children at Portland playgrounds, pools

    07/24/2014 5:04:31 AM PDT · 133 of 178
    Elsie to imardmd1
    Or do you have issues with a parent deciding what is best for their child?


  • Christian evangelists seek out children at Portland playgrounds, pools

    07/24/2014 5:03:32 AM PDT · 132 of 178
    Elsie to daniel1212

    In today's society, children are going to be exposed 24/7 to unfiltered sewage from their schools, and from their televisions.

  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/24/2014 5:01:28 AM PDT · 71 of 138
    Elsie to delchiante

    And it does the same for december 25 and easter and any other man made holy days..
    If there is a church that observed His Sabbath on His calendar since January, they would have observed His Sabbath on lots of different gregorian days and not one ‘set’ day like the world says..

    And it has only been ‘sunday’ for three weeks of gregorian 2014. You want to know why the church may have people demoralized or concerned about the ways of the world?
    Because their entire work life and worship life is based on the counterfeit world and that counterfeit world’s counterfeit premises and only partially on His Word..

    And we are told by scripture, who is the god of this world..

     



    Romans 14 New International Version (NIV)

    The Weak and the Strong

    14 Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.

    One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

    10 You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister[a]? Or why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat. 11 It is written:

    “‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
    ‘every knee will bow before me;
        every tongue will acknowledge God.’”[b]

    12 So then, each of us will give an account of ourselves to God.

    13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. 14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. 15 If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.

    19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.

    22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.[c]
     

  • Christian evangelists seek out children at Portland playgrounds, pools

    07/23/2014 8:20:32 PM PDT · 97 of 178
    Elsie to daniel1212
    Instead, get a tract like "How to get to Heaven,"...


     

    John 6:28-29

    Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

    Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/23/2014 8:18:02 PM PDT · 66 of 138
    Elsie to Albion Wilde
    This is vital.

    Why?

  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/23/2014 8:17:32 PM PDT · 65 of 138
    Elsie to NKP_Vet
    In Matthew 16:18, Jesus says to the apostle Peter, “you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church.” Catholics believe that in this verse Jesus is bestowing on Peter a position of authority from which the office of the pope is derived.

    So Catholicism uses a VERSE instead of some 'interpretation' by a group of men?

    HMMMmmm...

    WhereEVER did they get an Idea like that?

    (And WHY don't they use the verses that SURROUND it???)


     
    Is Peter the 'rock'?
     


    NIV Matthew 4:18-19
     18.  As Jesus was walking beside the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers, Simon called Peter and his brother Andrew. They were casting a net into the lake, for they were fishermen.
     19.  "Come, follow me," Jesus said, "and I will make you fishers of men."
     
    NIV Matthew 8:14
      When Jesus came into Peter's house, he saw Peter's mother-in-law lying in bed with a fever.
     
    NIV Matthew 10:1-2
     1.  He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out evil  spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.
     2.  These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon (who is called Peter) and his brother Andrew; James son of Zebedee, and his brother John;
     
    NIV Matthew 14:28-31
     28.  "Lord, if it's you," Peter replied, "tell me to come to you on the water."
     29.  "Come," he said.   Then Peter got down out of the boat, walked on the water and came toward Jesus.
     30.  But when he saw the wind, he was afraid and, beginning to sink, cried out, "Lord, save me!"
     31.  Immediately Jesus reached out his hand and caught him. "You of little faith," he said, "why did you doubt?"
     
    NIV Matthew 15:13-16
     13.  He replied, "Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots.
     14.  Leave them; they are blind guides.  If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit."
     15.  Peter said, "Explain the parable to us."
     16.  "Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them.
     

    As you can see, Simon was already known as 'Peter'
    BEFORE the following verses came along.....


    NIV Matthew 16:13-18
     13.  When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?"
     14.  They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets."
     15.  "But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"
     16.  Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ,  the Son of the living God."
     17.  Jesus replied, "
    Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.
     18.  And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades  will not overcome it.
     19.  I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be  bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

    NIV 1 Corinthians 10:4
       and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.
     
    NIV Luke 6:48
       He is like a man building a house, who dug down deep and laid the foundation on rock. When a flood came, the torrent struck that house but could not shake it, because it was well built.
     
    NIV Romans 9:33
      As it is written: "See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."
     
     
     
    NIV 1 Peter 2:4-8
     4.  As you come to him, the living Stone--rejected by men but chosen by God and precious to him--
     5.  you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
     6.  For in Scripture it says: "See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."
     7.  Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, "The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone, "
     8.  and, "A stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall." They stumble because they disobey the message--which is also what they were destined for.


    But, since there WAS no NT at the time Christ spoke to Peter, just what DID Peter and the rest of the Disciples know about ROCKS???

     

    NIV Genesis 49:24-25
     24.  But his bow remained steady, his strong arms stayed limber, because of the hand of the Mighty One of Jacob, because of the Shepherd, the Rock of Israel,
     25.  because of your father's God, who helps you, because of the Almighty,  who blesses you with blessings of the heavens above, blessings of the deep that lies below, blessings of the breast and womb.
     
    NIV Numbers 20:8
       "Take the staff, and you and your brother Aaron gather the assembly together. Speak to that rock before their eyes and it will pour out its water. You will bring water out of the rock for the community so they and their livestock can drink."
     
    NIV Deuteronomy 32:4
      He is the Rock, his works are perfect, and all his ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he.
     
    NIV Deuteronomy 32:15
       Jeshurun  grew fat and kicked; filled with food, he became heavy and sleek. He abandoned the God who made him and rejected the Rock his Savior.
     
    NIV Deuteronomy 32:18
      You deserted the Rock, who fathered you; you forgot the God who gave you birth.
     
    NIV Deuteronomy 32:30-31
     30.  How could one man chase a thousand, or two put ten thousand to flight, unless their Rock had sold them, unless the LORD had given them up?
     31.  For their rock is not like our Rock, as even our enemies concede.
     
    NIV 1 Samuel 2:2
      "There is no one holy  like the LORD; there is no one besides you; there is no Rock like our God.
     
    NIV 2 Samuel 22:2-3
     2.  He said: "The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer;
     3.  my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the horn  of my salvation. He is my stronghold, my refuge and my savior-- from violent men you save me.
     
    NIV 2 Samuel 22:32
      For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God?
     
    NIV 2 Samuel 22:47
      "The LORD lives! Praise be to my Rock! Exalted be God, the Rock, my Savior!
     
    NIV 2 Samuel 23:3-4
     3.  The God of Israel spoke, the Rock of Israel said to me: `When one rules over men in righteousness, when he rules in the fear of God,
     4.  he is like the light of morning at sunrise on a cloudless morning, like the brightness after rain that brings the grass from the earth.'
     
    NIV Psalms 18:2
      The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer; my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge. He is my shield and the horn  of my salvation, my stronghold.
     
    NIV Psalms 18:31
       For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God?
     
    NIV Psalms 18:46
      The LORD lives! Praise be to my Rock! Exalted be God my Savior!
     
    NIV Psalms 19:14
       May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, O LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer.
     
    NIV Psalms 28:1
       To you I call, O LORD my Rock; do not turn a deaf ear to me. For if you remain silent, I will be like those who have gone down to the pit.
     
    NIV Psalms 31:2-3
     2.  Turn your ear to me, come quickly to my rescue; be my rock of refuge, a strong fortress to save me.
     3.  Since you are my rock and my fortress, for the sake of your name lead and guide me.
     
    NIV Psalms 42:9
       I say to God my Rock, "Why have you forgotten me? Why must I go about mourning, oppressed by the enemy?"
     
    NIV Psalms 62:2
       He alone is my rock and my salvation; he is my fortress, I will never be shaken.
     
    NIV Psalms 62:6
       He alone is my rock and my salvation; he is my fortress, I will not be shaken.
     
    NIV Psalms 62:7
       My salvation and my honor depend on God ; he is my mighty rock, my refuge.
     
    NIV Psalms 71:3
       Be my rock of refuge, to which I can always go; give the command to save me, for you are my rock and my fortress.
     
    NIV Psalms 78:35
       They remembered that God was their Rock, that God Most High was their Redeemer.
     
    NIV Psalms 89:26
       He will call out to me, `You are my Father, my God, the Rock my Savior.'
     
    NIV Psalms 92:14-15
     14.  They will still bear fruit in old age, they will stay fresh and green,
     15.  proclaiming, "The LORD is upright; he is my Rock, and there is no wickedness in him."
     
    NIV Psalms 95:1
       Come, let us sing for joy to the LORD; let us shout aloud to the Rock of our salvation.
     
    NIV Psalms 144:1
       Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.
     
    NIV Isaiah 17:10
       You have forgotten God your Savior; you have not remembered the Rock, your fortress.
     
    NIV Isaiah 26:4
       Trust in the LORD forever, for the LORD, the LORD, is the Rock eternal.
     
    NIV Isaiah 30:29
     And you will sing as on the night you celebrate a holy festival; your hearts will rejoice as when people go up with flutes to the mountain of the LORD, to the Rock of Israel.
     
    NIV Isaiah 44:8
       Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one." 
     
    NIV Habakkuk 1:12
       O LORD, are you not from everlasting? My God, my Holy One, we will not die. O LORD, you have appointed them to execute judgment; O Rock, you have ordained them to punish.

    .....No other rock.............
     
    And now you know the Biblical position!

  • Quick, Hide the Past

    07/23/2014 10:29:02 AM PDT · 4 of 6
    Elsie to Kaslin

     



     
    Eerily familiar...
     
     

    Party ownership of the print media
    made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
    and the film and radio carried the process further.


     



    16. Ministry Of Truth

    .......

    The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below.

    The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further.

    The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.

    Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance.

    When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify.

    In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building.

    As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames.

    What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead.

    In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs.

    There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed.

    And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence.

     
     

  • Mowing the grass in Gaza

    07/23/2014 10:27:28 AM PDT · 10 of 12
    Elsie to Louis Foxwell
    Such a “permanent fix” would result in a global conflagration against Israel.

    So?

    It IS going to happen.

    The BOOK says so...

  • Mowing the grass in Gaza

    07/23/2014 10:25:53 AM PDT · 9 of 12
    Elsie to SJackson

    Sometimes the yard is just too far gone and impossible to improve without application of a broad spectrum herbicide and then tilling and replanting good seed.

  • Reproductive ‘Justice’ [Of course, abortion is part of it; but there’s much, much more]

    07/23/2014 5:50:10 AM PDT · 10 of 10
    Elsie to DJ MacWoW
    So many extra letters...

    SelfIshNess

  • Reproductive ‘Justice’ [Of course, abortion is part of it; but there’s much, much more]

    07/23/2014 5:11:27 AM PDT · 8 of 10
    Elsie to markomalley
    I'd like to thank the United States Government for protecting me and my kind.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    You see, 40 years ago, my odds of making it out of the egg, alive, were very poor; about 80% of us died. 
     
     
    But a lady discovered our plight and wrote a book that addressed our problem,
    and, in 1972, a law was ammended protecting us even further. (http://www.fws.gov/midwest/eagle/protect/laws.html)
     
     
     
     
     
     
    What I find strange is that the same government passed a law the very next year that allowed for killing
    of unborn, and apparently unwanted, humans.  Little ones still nestled safely in their Mother's womb.
    Around 25% of them are dying before birth - on average nearly 3,300 - every day of the year.
     
     
    I hear that by now, somewhere around 55 MILLION of them have perished.
    Wouldn't that kind of mess up the humans plans for growth, and welfare, and
    retirement?
     
     
     
     
     
    Strange birds; these Homo Sapiens.  Perhaps they'll come to their senses
    before they are ALL dead!
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
  • Reproductive ‘Justice’ [Of course, abortion is part of it; but there’s much, much more]

    07/23/2014 5:11:02 AM PDT · 7 of 10
    Elsie to markomalley

    A rational person would think that 55 million plus dead humans would begin to piss GOD off just a little bit...

  • Reproductive ‘Justice’ [Of course, abortion is part of it; but there’s much, much more]

    07/23/2014 5:10:04 AM PDT · 6 of 10
    Elsie to markomalley


    Are you still killing your unborn?

    -- GOD


     
  • When College Isn't Worth It

    07/22/2014 7:18:05 PM PDT · 14 of 17
    Elsie to heylady
    One of them has been out of the work force for 9 years ...

    TADA!

  • When College Isn't Worth It

    07/22/2014 7:17:17 PM PDT · 13 of 17
    Elsie to Kaslin

    It keeps them outta the job market for 4 years!

  • Getting Away With Murder

    07/22/2014 6:52:21 PM PDT · 9 of 10
    Elsie to Kaslin
    Getting Away With Murder

    3,300 today.

    3,300 tomorrow.

    3,300 Thursday...

    Ain't CHOICE grand!

  • This baby's death is on your conscience, Putin - damn you for centuries (w/ photos of the departed)

    07/22/2014 6:51:02 PM PDT · 78 of 80
    Elsie to Zhang Fei
    Russia is in bigger trouble.

    Luke 18:8
    However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?

  • This baby's death is on your conscience, Putin - damn you for centuries (w/ photos of the departed)

    07/22/2014 8:12:55 AM PDT · 76 of 80
    Elsie to Mount Athos

    That would be my take on it as well.

  • This baby's death is on your conscience, Putin - damn you for centuries (w/ photos of the departed)

    07/22/2014 4:24:33 AM PDT · 74 of 80
    Elsie to Tau Food
    There is no question that they intentionally shot down that plane.

    Let me play devil's advocate and say: Perhaps not.

    Have we not had; in our OWN country; incidences of OUR military tracking and locking onto OUR civilian planes?

    Practice - training what ever was the cause, the reports said.

    If, just if, someone had ACCIDENTLY hit the fire button - those planes would have dropped just like the Malayian one.

  • This baby's death is on your conscience, Putin - damn you for centuries (w/ photos of the departed)

    07/22/2014 4:19:23 AM PDT · 73 of 80
    Elsie to trebb
    Where in the the hell has my country gone?

    Circling the drain...

  • This baby's death is on your conscience, Putin - damn you for centuries (w/ photos of the departed)

    07/22/2014 4:16:07 AM PDT · 72 of 80
    Elsie to Mount Athos

    What was the motivation to kill uninvolved third party?

  • This baby's death is on your conscience, Putin - damn you for centuries (w/ photos of the departed)

    07/22/2014 4:14:35 AM PDT · 71 of 80
    Elsie to Tucker39
    Too bad we aren’t able to publish photos of the 55 million babies WE have slaughtered on the altar of DEMOCRAT progressive abortion.

    WE are; but the American MASSES are NOT seeing them!