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  • Oops! Climate Cultist Destroys Own Position

    09/23/2017 8:32:44 AM PDT · 34 of 35
    Elsie to jdsteel
  • Brigham Young University ends ban on caffeinated soda sales

    09/23/2017 8:30:32 AM PDT · 43 of 43
    Elsie to bert

    The Lord does not delay His promise, as some understand delay,
    but is patient with you, not wanting any to perish but all to come to repentance.

    2 Peter 3:9

  • Oops! Climate Cultist Destroys Own Position

    09/23/2017 5:01:18 AM PDT · 31 of 35
    Elsie to onedoug
  • Brigham Young University ends ban on caffeinated soda sales

    09/23/2017 4:45:06 AM PDT · 41 of 43
    Elsie to bert
    I swear: the horse still has breath!

  • Brigham Young University ends ban on caffeinated soda sales

    09/23/2017 4:42:25 AM PDT · 40 of 43
    Elsie to daniel1212
    It doesn’t have to be “official” —

    Oh??


    Where can we find an 'OFFICIAL MORMON' teaching website??
    Official sites are sites supported by LDS officials unless said official sites are considered unofficial by said officials.
     
    At that point such sites are unofficial unless officially referenced for official purposes by officials who can do so officially.
     
    This should not be misconstrued as an indication that official sites can be unofficially recognized as official nor should it be implied that unofficial sites cannot contain official information, but are not officially allowed to be offical despite their official contents due the their unofficialness.
     
    Official sites will be official and recognized as official by officials of the LDS unless there is an official reason to mark them as unofficial either temporally or permanently, which would make the official content officially unofficial.
     
    This is also not to imply that recognized sites, often used on FR by haters and bigots cannot contain official information, it just means that content, despite its official status, is no longer official and should be consider unofficial despite the same information being official on an official site elsewhere.
     
    Even then the officialness my be amended due to the use of the unofficial information which may determine the officialness of anything be it official or unofficial depending on how and where it is used officially or unofficially.
    I hope this clear things up for the lurkers out there.
    The haters tend to make things complicated and confusing when it is all really quite crystal clear.
    --Ejonesie22
  • Brigham Young University ends ban on caffeinated soda sales

    09/23/2017 4:41:07 AM PDT · 39 of 43
    Elsie to daniel1212
    It doesn’t have to be “official” —

    A fella (or gal) just can NOT go wrong by following what the Living Prophet® says!!




    In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.


    1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
    2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
    3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
    4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
    5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
    6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
    7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
    8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
    9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
    10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
    11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
    12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
    13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
    14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

    I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

    Ezra Taft Benson

    (Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)     http://www.lds.org/liahona/1981/06/fourteen-fundamentals-in-following-the-prophet?lang=eng

  • Brigham Young University ends ban on caffeinated soda sales

    09/23/2017 4:38:43 AM PDT · 38 of 43
    Elsie to daniel1212; teppe; Normandy; StormPrepper
    Below is where I found the empirical evidence that essentially led to the gutting of my belief in Mormonism....

    AAAARRRGH!!

    Damned ANTI-MORMONS!!!!!


    I must FLEE to the safety of LDS scripture!!


     
     
    What's for dinner?
     

    D&C 49:18-19 

    18 And whoso forbiddeth to abstain from meats, that man should not eat the same, is not ordained of God;
    19 For, behold, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and that which cometh of the earth, is ordained for the use of man for food and for raiment, and that he might have in
    abundance.

    D&C 89:12-13 

    12 Yea, flesh also of beasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used sparingly;
    13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be used, only in times of winter, or of cold, or famine.

     
     
     
    It must be tough; being a Mormon.   Having to face Scripture that state two opposing ideas and somehow managing to believe BOTH of them!  It's no WONDER that Utah leads in Prozac usage!
     
     
     
  • Brigham Young University ends ban on caffeinated soda sales

    09/23/2017 4:32:17 AM PDT · 37 of 43
    Elsie to daniel1212
    Don't know much about history...
     
    666 posted on Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:35:28 AM by --Mormon_Dude (I may not understand everything MORMON, but, by golly, I sure BELIEVE it!)
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
  • Brigham Young University ends ban on caffeinated soda sales

    09/23/2017 4:26:50 AM PDT · 36 of 43
    Elsie to SkyDancer
    Before it was good, then it was bad now it’s good again.

    I'd bet that LOTS of Mormons are just waiting for POLYGAMY to become 'good' again!

    The fella (for whom this university is named) had a word or two about it:

    "Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

    and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

    and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

      - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

  • Brigham Young University ends ban on caffeinated soda sales

    09/23/2017 4:24:10 AM PDT · 35 of 43
    Elsie to Mrs. Don-o

    There ya go.

    The fella is DELUDED.

  • Brigham Young University ends ban on caffeinated soda sales

    09/23/2017 4:23:09 AM PDT · 33 of 43
    Elsie to wally_bert; Utah Binger

    Coffee time!

  • Brigham Young University ends ban on caffeinated soda sales

    09/23/2017 4:21:30 AM PDT · 32 of 43
    Elsie to RooRoobird20
    The hypocrisy makes no sense but I suppose it’s none of my business.

    It's not hypocrisy if you do NOT know what your Holy Books say.

    He is relying on what he has been TAUGHT; NOT on what he researched for himself.

    (Just like Catholics)


    Bereans are few and far between these days.

  • Brigham Young University ends ban on caffeinated soda sales

    09/23/2017 4:18:42 AM PDT · 31 of 43
    Elsie to jalisco555
    A Mormon friend told me that the religious prohibition was specifically against coffee and tea, not caffeine per se. He was quite observant yet drank Coke regularly.

    N o; there is NO 'religious' prohibition!

    That is something MAN-MADE!!

    Read the WOW and see if you can find coffee or tea mentioned.


    Observant??

    Of WHAT??

    Surely not the 'scripture'!

  • Brigham Young University ends ban on caffeinated soda sales

    09/23/2017 4:16:32 AM PDT · 30 of 43
    Elsie to nickcarraway; StormPrepper; teppe; Normandy
    The SkyRoom tossed out verse 13 LONG ago; as have most ALL Mormons!
  • Brigham Young University ends ban on caffeinated soda sales

    09/23/2017 4:12:40 AM PDT · 28 of 43
    Elsie to Snickering Hound; teppe; Normandy; StormPrepper
    Well; things like this will happen when a True Mormon actually READS what his Scriptures say!

    MormonISMs foundation:

    Does anyone lack wisdom?

    And here is the WORD of Wisdom:

     
    THE
    DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
    OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
    SECTION 89
     
    Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.
     
    1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.
     
      1 A aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—
      2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—
      3 Given for a principle with apromise, adapted to the capacity of the bweak and the weakest of all csaints, who are or can be called saints.
      4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of bconspiring men in the last days, I have cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—
      5 That inasmuch as any man adrinketh bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.
      6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.
      7 And, again, astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.
      8 And again, tobacco is not for the abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.
      9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.
      10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—
      11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with aprudence and bthanksgiving.
      12 Yea, aflesh also of bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used csparingly;
      13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or bfamine.
      14 All agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;
      15 And athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.
      16 All grain is good for the afood of man; as also the bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—
      17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.
      18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ashall receive bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;
      19 And shall afind bwisdom and great ctreasures of dknowledge, even hidden treasures;
      20 And shall arun and not be bweary, and shall walk and not faint.
      21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the adestroying angel shall bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.


  • State of the Bible [survey excerpts]

    09/23/2017 4:07:08 AM PDT · 16 of 16
    Elsie to daniel1212
    State of the Bible

    The most bought book and probably the LEAST read!


    The state of the Bible is just fine; but the 'state' of those who come in contact with it is something that only GOD knows about for sure.

    After all; an anonymous survey will generate all kinds of false hits that will make the answerer appear better to someone else.


    Go back and ask about internet porn or masturbation.

    "Oh NO! Not ME!!!"

    will be the biggest response!

  • State of the Bible [survey excerpts]

    09/23/2017 4:00:31 AM PDT · 15 of 16
    Elsie to daniel1212

    I got that feeling as well!

  • The "Ecumenical Mass" Has Started

    09/23/2017 3:59:04 AM PDT · 266 of 267
    Elsie to boatbums

    LIKE I presume that you find it hard to understand that folks who believe that a wafer and wine ACTUALLY turn into the flesh and blood of Christ, do NOT believe that humans can turn into Living Stones.

  • The "Ecumenical Mass" Has Started

    09/22/2017 1:05:32 PM PDT · 260 of 267
    Elsie to Mrs. Don-o

    No need for you to be confused.

    Just pray to Mary for more clarity of thinking.

  • Climate optimism has been a disaster. We need a new language – desperately

    09/22/2017 4:13:55 AM PDT · 40 of 41
    Elsie to Bellflower
    He who controls language controls much.



     


    'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
    ' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

    'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

    'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'