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  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 5:09:39 PM PDT · 219 of 267
    Elsie to Religion Moderator; miss marmelstein

    Happy now?

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 5:08:38 PM PDT · 218 of 267
    Elsie to workerbee; Jim Robinson
    Were I the owner of this site, you’d have been banned long ago for helping to give credence to every stereotypical slur the Left drags out.

    Since you've commented on the 'Owner', but failed to ping him, he just might be interested in your suggestion...

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 5:06:57 PM PDT · 217 of 267
    Elsie to trisham

    I can lead them to Water; but cannot make them drink.

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 5:06:14 PM PDT · 216 of 267
    Elsie to Sirius Lee
    They can come to my BBQs anytime.

    Actually; they can't.

    Well; 15% or so of them can't... (Verses 12-13)



     
    THE
    DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
    OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
    SECTION 89
     
    Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.
     
    1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.
     
      1 A aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—
      2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—
      3 Given for a principle with apromise, adapted to the capacity of the bweak and the weakest of all csaints, who are or can be called saints.
      4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of bconspiring men in the last days, I have cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—
      5 That inasmuch as any man adrinketh bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.
      6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.
      7 And, again, astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.
      8 And again, tobacco is not for the abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.
      9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.
      10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—
      11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with aprudence and bthanksgiving.
      12 Yea, aflesh also of bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used csparingly;
      13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or bfamine.
      14 All agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;
      15 And athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.
      16 All grain is good for the afood of man; as also the bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—
      17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.
      18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ashall receive bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;
      19 And shall afind bwisdom and great ctreasures of dknowledge, even hidden treasures;
      20 And shall arun and not be bweary, and shall walk and not faint.
      21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the adestroying angel shall bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.


  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 5:04:45 PM PDT · 214 of 267
    Elsie to Greetings_Puny_Humans
    Do NOT laugh!

    It only encourages him!!

    --Mrs_ELSIE(I have to LIVE with him!)











  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 5:03:14 PM PDT · 211 of 267
    Elsie to dragonblustar
     
     

    JESUS: Hey Smith! Remember that boast you made about doing more than even I had done to hold the 'church' together?

    JOSEPH SMITH: Where am I?

    JESUS: Don't you remember? A few seconds ago you were in that jail.

    JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah; but where am I NOW?

    JESUS: Don't you remember? Does bang - bang ring a bell?

    JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah - that crummy gun I had was about USELESS!

    JESUS: I hope you left instructions on how to hold your church together.

    JOSEPH SMITH: Dang! I knew there was SOMETHING I was forgetting!

    JESUS: Looks like there's a power struggle going on down there.

    JOSEPH SMITH: Yeah; there was always SOMEone who wanted the power that I held - especially over the LADIES - wink wink.

    JESUS: No need to worry about that now; remember what my friend Matthew wrote down?

    JOSEPH SMITH: This? “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30)

    JESUS: That's it.

    JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

    JESUS: Nah - it was right.

    JOSEPH SMITH: Oh well; it was fun while it lasted. My buds will still get it on with the girls.

    JESUS: Uh; I'm sorry; in just a few more years; your followers will cavein to the United States government and abandon the 'Eternal Covenant' that you came up with.

    JOSEPH SMITH: ME!? YOU are the one that told me to do that!

    JESUS: Sorry; but you must have mistranslated what I told you. What part of Do NOT commit ADULTERY did you not understand?

    JOSEPH SMITH: mumble....

    JESUS: What did you say?

    JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, nothing.

    JESUS: Well; it was interesting talking to you; but now I must get back to perparing a place for those who believe in Me.

    JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, yeah; the Celestial Kingdom.

    JESUS: No...

    JOSEPH SMITH: The Telestial one?

    JESUS: Nope.

    JOSEPH SMITH: SUREly not the TERRESTRIAL one!!

    JESUS: Nope. Didn't you read that the mind of man had NOT conceived of it? Paul wrote it down in 1 Corinthians 2:9.

    JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

    JESUS: No; it wasn't.

    JOSEPH SMITH: You SURE?

    JESUS: Yes. Now I must be going: what did you say your name was again?

    JOSEPH SMITH: Joseph Smith.

    JESUS: Hmmmm. According to my Heavenly FAITHbook, you didn't sign in as one of my friends - sorry, I never knew you.

    JOSEPH SMITH: But....

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 5:01:57 PM PDT · 210 of 267
    Elsie to dragonblustar

    It makes you a god...


    The Doctrine and Covenants

    Section 132

    Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

    1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26–27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

     


     

     16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

     17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.

     18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.

     19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.

     20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.

     21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.

     22For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.

     23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.

     24This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.

     25aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 5:00:17 PM PDT · 208 of 267
    Elsie to Elsie

    ...fresh FACED dudes...

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:58:53 PM PDT · 206 of 267
    Elsie to miss marmelstein
    I must read up on it!


    How did the above 'scripture' come to be??




    "Now the way he translated was he put the urim and thummim into his hat and Darkned his Eyes than he would take a sentance and it would apper in Brite Roman Letters. Then he would tell the writer and he would write it. Then that would go away the next sentance would Come and so on. But if it was not Spelt rite it would not go away till it was rite, so we see it was marvelous. Thus was the hol [whole] translated."
    ---Joseph Knight's journal.


    "In writing for your father I frequently wrote day after day, often sitting at the table close by him, he sitting with his face buried in his hat, with the stone in it, and dictating hour after hour with nothing between us."
    (History of the RLDS Church, 8 vols.
    (Independence, Missouri: Herald House,1951),
    "Last Testimony of Sister Emma [Smith Bidamon]," 3:356.

    "I, as well as all of my father's family, Smith's wife, Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris, were present during the translation. . . . He [Joseph Smith] did not use the plates in translation."
    ---(David Whitmer,
    as published in the "Kansas City Journal," June 5, 1881,
    and reprinted in the RLDS "Journal of History", vol. 8, (1910), pp. 299-300.

    In an 1885 interview, Zenas H. Gurley, then the editor of the RLDS Saints Herald, asked Whitmer if Joseph had used his "Peep stone" to do the translation. Whitmer replied:

    "... he used a stone called a "Seers stone," the "Interpreters" having been taken away from him because of transgression. The "Interpreters" were taken from Joseph after he allowed Martin Harris to carry away the 116 pages of Ms [manuscript] of the Book of Mormon as a punishment, but he was allowed to go on and translate by use of a "Seers stone" which he had, and which he placed in a hat into which he buried his face, stating to me and others that the original character appeared upon parchment and under it the translation in English."


    "Martin Harris related an incident that occurred during the time that he wrote that portion of the translation of the Book of Mormon which he was favored to write direct from the mouth of the Prophet Joseph Smith. He said that the Prophet possessed a seer stone, by which he was enabled to translate as well as from the Urim and Thummim, and for convenience he then used the seer stone, Martin explained the translation as follows: By aid of the seer stone, sentences would appear and were read by the Prophet and written by Martin and when finished he would say 'Written,' and if correctly written that sentence would disappear and another appear in its place, but if not written correctly it remained until corrected, so that the translation was just as it was engraven on the plates, precisely in the language then used."
    (Edward Stevenson, "One of the Three Witnesses,"
    reprinted from Deseret News, 30 Nov. 1881
    in Millennial Star, 44 (6 Feb. 1882): 86-87.)

    In 1879, Michael Morse, Emma Smith's brother-in-law, stated:
     
     "When Joseph was translating the Book of Mormon [I] had occasion more than once to go into his immediate presence, and saw him engaged at his work of translation. The mode of procedure consisted in Joseph's placing the Seer Stone in the crown of a hat, then putting his face into the hat, so as to entirely cover his face, resting his elbows upon his knees, and then dictating word after word, while the scribes Emma, John Whitmer, O. Cowdery, or some other wrote it down."
    (W.W. Blair interview with Michael Morse,
    Saints Herald, vol. 26, no. 12
    June 15, 1879,  pp. 190-91.)


    Joseph Smith's brother William also testified to the "face in the hat" version:
     
    "The manner in which this was done was by looking into the Urim and Thummim, which was placed in a hat to exclude the light, (the plates lying near by covered up), and reading off the translation, which appeared in the stone by the power of God"
    ("A New Witness for Christ in America,"
    Francis W. Kirkham, 2:417.)


    "The manner in which he pretended to read and interpret was the same manner as when he looked for the money-diggers, with the stone in his hat, while the book of plates were at the same time hid in the woods."
    ---Isaac Hale (Emma Smith's father's) affidavit, 1834.



  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:57:59 PM PDT · 204 of 267
    Elsie to miss marmelstein
    I must read up on it!


    Let me help some...


     
     
    The BIGGEST battle EVER recorded; and not ONE even teeny bit of evidence of it can be found!!
     
     


    The Book of Ether

    Chapter 15

    Millions of the Jaredites are slain in battle—Shiz and Coriantumr assemble all the people to mortal combat—The Spirit of the Lord ceases to strive with them—The Jaredite nation is utterly destroyed—Only Coriantumr remains.

     And it came to pass when Coriantumr had recovered of his wounds, he began to remember the awords which Ether had spoken unto him.

     He saw that there had been slain by the sword already nearly atwo millions of his people, and he began to sorrow in his heart; yea, there had been slain two millions of mighty men, and also their wives and their children.

     He began to repent of the evil which he had done; he began to remember the words which had been spoken by the mouth of all the prophets, and he saw them that they were fulfilled thus far, every whit; and his soul amourned and refused to be bcomforted.

     And it came to pass that he wrote an epistle unto Shiz, desiring him that he would spare the people, and he would give up the kingdom for the sake of the lives of the people.

     And it came to pass that when Shiz had received his epistle he wrote an epistle unto Coriantumr, that if he would give himself up, that he might slay him with his own sword, that he would spare the lives of the people.

     And it came to pass that the people repented not of their iniquity; and the people of Coriantumr were stirred up to anger against the people of Shiz; and the people of Shiz were stirred up to anger against the people of Coriantumr; wherefore, the people of Shiz did give battle unto the people of Coriantumr.

     And when Coriantumr saw that he was about to fall he fled again before the people of Shiz.

     And it came to pass that he came to the waters of Ripliancum, which, by interpretation, is large, or to exceed all; wherefore, when they came to these waters they pitched their tents; and Shiz also pitched his tents near unto them; and therefore on the morrow they did come to battle.

     And it came to pass that they fought an exceedingly sore battle, in which Coriantumr was wounded again, and he fainted with the loss of blood.

     10 And it came to pass that the armies of Coriantumr did press upon the armies of Shiz that they beat them, that they caused them to flee before them; and they did flee southward, and did pitch their tents in a place which was called Ogath.

     11 And it came to pass that the army of Coriantumr did pitch their tents by the hill Ramah; and it was that same hill where my father Mormon did ahide up the records unto the Lord, which were sacred.

     12 And it came to pass that they did gather together all the people upon all the face of the land, who had not been slain, save it was Ether.

     13 And it came to pass that Ether did abehold all the doings of the people; and he beheld that the people who were for Coriantumr were gathered together to the army of Coriantumr; and the people who were for Shiz were gathered together to the army of Shiz.

     14 Wherefore, they were for the space of four years gathering together the people, that they might get all who were upon the face of the land, and that they might receive all the strength which it was possible that they could receive.

     15 And it came to pass that when they were all gathered together, every one to the army which he would, with their wives and their children—both men, women and children being armed with aweapons of war, having shields, and bbreastplates, and head-plates, and being clothed after the manner of war—they did march forth one against another to battle; and they fought all that day, and conquered not.

     16 And it came to pass that when it was night they were weary, and retired to their camps; and after they had retired to their camps they took up a howling and a alamentation for the loss of the slain of their people; and so great were their cries, their howlings and lamentations, that they did rend the air exceedingly.

     17 And it came to pass that on the morrow they did go again to battle, and great and terrible was that day; nevertheless, they conquered not, and when the night came again they did rend the air with their cries, and their howlings, and their mournings, for the loss of the slain of their people.

     18 And it came to pass that Coriantumr wrote again an epistle unto Shiz, desiring that he would not come again to battle, but that he would take the kingdom, and spare the lives of the people.

     19 But behold, the aSpirit of the Lord had ceased striving with them, and bSatan had full power over the chearts of the people; for they were given up unto the hardness of their hearts, and the blindness of their minds that they might be destroyed; wherefore they went again to battle.

     20 And it came to pass that they fought all that day, and when the night came they slept upon their swords.

     21 And on the morrow they fought even until the night came.

     22 And when the night came they were adrunken with anger, even as a man who is drunken with wine; and they slept again upon their swords.

     23 And on the morrow they fought again; and when the night came they had all fallen by the sword save it were fifty and two of the people of Coriantumr, and sixty and nine of the people of Shiz.

     24 And it came to pass that they slept upon their swords that night, and on the morrow they fought again, and they contended in their might with their swords and with their shields, all that day.

     25 And when the night came there were thirty and two of the people of Shiz, and twenty and seven of the people of Coriantumr.

     26 And it came to pass that they ate and slept, and prepared for death on the morrow. And they were large and mighty men as to the strength of men.

     27 And it came to pass that they fought for the space of three hours, and they fainted with the loss of blood.

     28 And it came to pass that when the men of Coriantumr had received sufficient strength that they could walk, they were about to flee for their lives; but behold, Shiz arose, and also his men, and he swore in his wrath that he would slay Coriantumr or he would perish by the sword.

     29 Wherefore, he did pursue them, and on the morrow he did overtake them; and they fought again with the sword. And it came to pass that when they had aall fallen by the sword, save it were Coriantumr and Shiz, behold Shiz had fainted with the loss of blood.

     30 And it came to pass that when Coriantumr had leaned upon his sword, that he rested a little, he smote off the head of Shiz.

     31 And it came to pass that after he had smitten off the head of Shiz, that Shiz raised up on his hands and afell; and after that he had struggled for breath, he died.

     32 And it came to pass that aCoriantumr fell to the earth, and became as if he had no life.

     33 And the Lord spake unto Ether, and said unto him: Go forth. And he went forth, and beheld that the words of the Lord had all been fulfilled; and he afinished his brecord; (and the chundredth part I have not written) and he hid them in a manner that the people of Limhi did find them.

     34 Now the last words which are written by aEther are these: Whether the Lord will that I be translated, or that I suffer the will of the Lord in the flesh, it mattereth not, if it so be that I am bsaved in the kingdom of God. Amen.

     

    https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/ether/15

     

     

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:55:54 PM PDT · 201 of 267
    Elsie to trisham

    I do what little I can.

    Here’s the water trough - thirsty??

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:54:57 PM PDT · 200 of 267
    Elsie to workerbee
    You top the list, you bigoted troll.

    Yea!

    I'm Number One!

    (Got anything good to say about MORMON theology?)

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:53:07 PM PDT · 199 of 267
    Elsie to miss marmelstein
    Sounds like I’m getting close to getting one of the mods after me...

    For WHAT???


    A. If you say something along the lines of “the moderators might ban me for saying this, but…” then you lost.

    B. Anyone who says “well, ban me if you want to, but…” is actually saying; “in the name of a loving God, please ban me because I am losing this argument so badly that my only hope of escaping it with a shred of dignity is if I can make myself out to be some sort of martyr to free speech.”

    C. If you claim to have supporting evidence available online, but instead of linking to it you say “Look it up yourself,” you lose. Similarly to the banning thing, “look it up yourself” clearly means “please please please don’t look it up yourself.” It’s an admission of failure.

    D. If you invoke the name of a logical fallacy without explaining its relevance, you lose. Logical fallacies are not Harry Potter spells. You don’t just get to shout them out and wiggle your wand to make magic happen. Plus, there’s a logical meta-fallacy: Just because someone’s making an error in reasoning doesn’t mean they’re wrong.

    E. If you claim to be winning, you lose. This should be self-evident: If you’re so desperate that you have to tell someone you’re winning, you’re obviously not. http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/12/alt-text-internet-arguments

     

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:51:27 PM PDT · 198 of 267
    Elsie to workerbee
    Oh good grief, please don’t pretend you were offering religious debate.

    It's not OUR fault that no MORMON lovers have posted ANYTHING that proves that the list is WRONG!

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:50:29 PM PDT · 197 of 267
    Elsie to tomsbartoo
    One thing for sure, your post has absolutely nothing to do with religion.

    Then you'll need to convince the many who have posted in this thread!

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:49:14 PM PDT · 196 of 267
    Elsie to miss marmelstein
    Please stop, guys and gals, from sending me Bible quotations.

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    07/31/2014 4:47:26 PM PDT · 194 of 267
    Elsie to miss marmelstein

    ???

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:46:57 PM PDT · 193 of 267
    Elsie to Tennessee Nana; miss marmelstein; Greetings_Puny_Humans
    
    You could also try beheadings
     _________________________________
    
    no that’s something Mormons do...



    I do not feel threatened by it because I don’t think that they will be attempting to convert by the sword.
     

    The gruesome be headings of some 40 Ute corpses in 1850, heads stacked in boxes,
    and hung by their long hair from the eves of buildings at Fort Utah,
     has long been ignored, “You didn’t see the Indians beheading the Mormons.”
     
    -- Historian Robert Carter
  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:45:45 PM PDT · 191 of 267
    Elsie to workerbee
    There is a bizarre pre-occupation with Mormonism for some here at FR.

     
     
     

    Office of First President & Living Prophet®:

    February 2nd, 2014

    URGENT!

    It's been noted there has been a DRASTIC falloff in the number of MORMONs who  actually can (or will) engage in opposing ANTIs on FreeRepulic (spit!)

    I am forced to re-issue and old memo you all received about 3 years ago.

     

     

    Fellow MORMON Freeper Christians!!

    I've been getting lots of feedback from those of you on Free Republic (spit) about certain FReepers who are REALLY giving us a hard time there.
     
    Why not try to point out to the uninformed how CONSUMED they seem to be.
     
    Let's see if we can tangle them up so much trying to defend their reputation that they'll no longer have as much time to post facts about MORMONism.
     
    As always, Tommy M.
  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:45:03 PM PDT · 190 of 267
    Elsie to workerbee
    There is a bizarre pre-occupation with Mormonism for some here at FR.

    And YOU'VE wasted your time to comment on it!

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:44:15 PM PDT · 189 of 267
    Elsie to miss marmelstein
    Oh, I guess that’s why the Mormons have better conversion rates than you do.

    Got any FACTS to post to back up this assertion?

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:43:30 PM PDT · 187 of 267
    Elsie to miss marmelstein
    And stop trying to censure me.

    HMMMmmm...

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:42:50 PM PDT · 186 of 267
    Elsie to miss marmelstein
    I just don’t like you bigots beating up on decent Americans.

    Sigh...

    We beat up on no ONE; but upon a hellish heresy that is called Mormonism!

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:41:27 PM PDT · 185 of 267
    Elsie to Greetings_Puny_Humans; miss marmelstein
  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:40:40 PM PDT · 183 of 267
    Elsie to Greetings_Puny_Humans; miss marmelstein
    So you're Catholic?

      "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent"
     
     (The Seer, p. 255  Orson Pratt )
  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:39:17 PM PDT · 182 of 267
    Elsie to greyfoxx39


  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:37:11 PM PDT · 180 of 267
    Elsie to miss marmelstein
    Oh, I so believe that - the outpouring of love and kindness towards other religions among you guys brings a tiny tear to my eye.

    What has Light to do with Darkness?

    2 Corinthians 6:14

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:35:28 PM PDT · 179 of 267
    Elsie to miss marmelstein; Religion Moderator
    And now let’s watch you bully/cowards run to the mods.

    Good Idea!!!

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:34:42 PM PDT · 178 of 267
    Elsie to miss marmelstein

    ANYONE can read a caucus thread; but ONLY those who are in the group the causcus is about can POST there.

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:33:17 PM PDT · 176 of 267
    Elsie to Greetings_Puny_Humans
    Mormonism - a religion that projects its obsession with underwear onto its detractors.

    Watch out; or YOU'LL get mentioned in THIS years memo!!

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:32:24 PM PDT · 175 of 267
    Elsie to jimt
    Got better things to talk about than my underwear. Or do you have a “thing” about other peoples’ underwear. Speedos, maybe?

    Office of First President & Living Prophet®:

    April 21st, 2012

    URGENT!

    Fellow MORMON Freeper Christians!!
     
    Hot diggity dog; our boy has MADE it!!
    Now beware; for the media is gonna be on us like... well; you know the saying.

    I've been getting lots of feedback from those of you on Free Republic (spit) about a certain ELSIE (or something like that), who is REALLY giving us a hard time there!
     
    Why not try to point out to the uninformed how OBSESSED he seems to be.
     
    Let's see if we can tangle him up so much trying to defend his reputation
    that he'll no longer have as much time to post facts about MORMONism.
     
    As always, Tommy M.  
     
    (Keep pressing that we are CHRISTIAN and avoid anything MORMON like the DEVIL!!)
  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:30:57 PM PDT · 174 of 267
    Elsie to Morgana
    It cured me of all impure thoughts I had of those cute Mormon missionaries that come to my door.

    Thanks; Maam!!

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:29:48 PM PDT · 172 of 267
    Elsie to jimt
    Have y’all stopped preaching in garages and handling snakes yet ?

    Here is MORMONism's own creed:
     
     

    Articles of Faith

    The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
    The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
    in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
    They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.
    They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.

     
    THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
    OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
    History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541
     
     

    1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
    2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
    3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
    4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
    5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
    6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
    7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
    8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
    9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
    10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
    11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
    12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
    13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

    Joseph Smith


     
  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:28:48 PM PDT · 170 of 267
    Elsie to bethelgrad; Utah Binger
    ... but mocking them like this does no good.

    Oh???



    Matthew 23
     
      1.  Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
      2.  "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
      3.  So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
      4.  They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
      5.  "Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries  wide and the tassels on their garments long;
      6.  they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues;
      7.  they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them `Rabbi.'
      8.  "But you are not to be called `Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.
      9.  And do not call anyone on earth `father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
     10.  Nor are you to be called `teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ.
     11.  The greatest among you will be your servant.
     12.  For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
     13.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. 
     14.  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 
     15.   "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 
     16.  "Woe to you, blind guides! You say, `If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.'
     17.  You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?
     18.  You also say, `If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.'
     19.  You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
     20.  Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it.
     21.  And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it.
     22.  And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.
     23.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
     24.  You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
     25.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
     26.  Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
     27.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!  You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
     28.  In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
     29.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
     30.  And you say, `If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
     31.  So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.
     32.  Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
     33.  "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
     34.  Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
     35.  And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
     36.  I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
     37.  "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
     38.  Look, your house is left to you desolate.
     39.  For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, `Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.' "
     


    Mark 7:26-27
     26.  The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.
     27.  "First let the children eat all they want," he told her, "for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
     
  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:28:01 PM PDT · 169 of 267
    Elsie to bethelgrad; Utah Binger
    Prusuade them of the truth of the historic Christian faith with gentleness and sound arguments, if you must, but mocking them like this does no good.

    You gotta get their attention first.

    We are not so much trying to get a MORMON to see the light; but to feel the heat.

    We want non-Mormons; those with little to no knowledge; to see the things that they will NOT learn from the two fresh fresh dudes that showup at their front door some day!

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:25:14 PM PDT · 166 of 267
    Elsie to jimt
    Hey if you have no truth on your side, just spew venom and falsehoods !

    Correct the record; if you can.

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:24:41 PM PDT · 165 of 267
    Elsie to jimt

    Good Jimt!

    CAn ALWAYS be counted on to post his ONLY reply to any thing said about MormonISM.

    Can’t you at LEAST try to show where Anything we post is WRONG??

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:22:46 PM PDT · 164 of 267
    Elsie to dirtymac
    I have not heard of one instance where the Mormon church was planning on forcibly taking over this country and killing all infidels and pagans.

    HMMMmmm...





    ...the presidential campaign of Mormon Church founder Joseph Smith in 1844: “Challenging Democrat James Polk and Whig Henry Clay, Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands that ‘they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.’

    Smith viewed capturing the presidency as part of the mission of the church.


     

    Blood Atonement and Oaths of Vengeance

    In 1842, Joseph Smith received a series of revelations regarding the establishment of the Kingdom of God on earth. His goal was the establishment of a theocratic kingdom at Nauvoo, Illinois where he would be the King of Israel, and the Council of Fifty would be the governmental structure which would prepare the way for the millennial reign of Christ. As part of the elaboration for this theocratic plan, Smith presented what would come to be known as the doctrine of "Blood Atonement." The concept behind this doctrine was that people who committed particularly grievous acts against the Mormons would have to shed their blood to atone for the sins they had committed. The Mormons, especially the Danites, used the doctrine of blood atonement as justification for the depredations they committed during their war against the Missourians. Orrin Porter Rockwell also used the concept of blood atonement as justification for his assassination attempt on Missouri governor Lilburn Boggs.(52)

    When Joseph Smith was killed on June 27, 1844, his assassins created the circumstances for what has become known as the "Oath of Vengeance." A corollary to the doctrine of blood atonement, the oath of vengeance was created on the first anniversary of Smith's death as a formal prayer for God's vengeance upon those who shed the blood of the prophet's. Six months later this oath of vengeance became a part of the Mormon temple endowment ceremony.(53) The specific oath stated the following:

    " You and each of you do solemnly promise and vow that you will pray and never cease to pray and never cease to importune High Heaven to avenge the blood of the prophets on this nation and that you will teach this to your children and your children's children until the third and fourth generation."(54)

    This oath of vengeance was used several times in 1845 as justification for killing people who had been involved in the murders of Joseph and Hyrum Smith.(55)

    When the doctrines of blood atonement and oath of vengeance were dropped as part of church doctrine, fundamentalists saw this as yet another instance of the church caving in to political pressure. They still believe firmly in these doctrines. Kraut remarks that "Today, the doctrine of blood atonement is never taught and rarely mentioned. The idea of capital punishment has almost become eradicated by communists, psychologists, psychiatrists, and liberal educators. The Oath of Vengeance is no longer a part of the temple ceremony."(56)



    (52)D. Michael Quinn, The Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 1994), 110-113.

    (53)Quinn, 1994, 179.

    (54)Kraut, 79.

    (55)Quinn, 1994, 180-181.

    (56)Kraut, 78-79.

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:19:01 PM PDT · 160 of 267
    Elsie to Responsibility2nd
    You’re moving from bigotry to making the statement that Mormons and Muslims are the same now.

    SOMEbody lumped atheists and MUZZIES into the same category...

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:17:26 PM PDT · 157 of 267
    Elsie to Reddy
    The fact that you used “magic panties” ...

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:16:20 PM PDT · 156 of 267
    Elsie to Reddy
    The fact that you used “magic panties” as an (unsuccessful) slur against me proves that you are not someone I care to discuss anything with since I don’t talk to bigots.

    Yet you posted this... Strange behavior...

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:15:38 PM PDT · 155 of 267
    Elsie to Albion Wilde
    So why bash their religion?

    Because the foundation of it is built upon the RUINS of Christianity?

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:14:53 PM PDT · 154 of 267
    Elsie to Responsibility2nd
    ... it is ingrained into their training and thinking.


     
     
    Professor Robert Millet        teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004  http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/  <-- Complete and uneditted

     
     
    Timeline...    Subject...
     
    0:59           "Anti-Mormons..."
    1:16           "ATTACK the faith you have..."
    2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."
    3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:14:19 PM PDT · 151 of 267
    Elsie to Responsibility2nd
    And FR is full of insecure little Mormon haters.

    We are trying to get the Mormons here not to hate so much; but it is ingrained into their training and thinking.



    Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
    Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
     
     
     
    Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
     
     
     
    Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
     
     
     
    Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
    , vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
     
     
    President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
     
     
     
    James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
     
     
     
    President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
     
     
     
    More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
     
     
     
    President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
     
     
    President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).
  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:12:55 PM PDT · 149 of 267
    Elsie to miss marmelstein
    And who says they wear funny clothes? The Mormons I see are generally well dressed, well groomed and pretty good-looking.

    Could be a reason that only about 15% of them are going to make it to the top level of the Mormon Heavenly Structure.


     

    Temple Recommend Questions



    1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

    2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

    3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

    4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

    5 Do you live the law of chastity?

    6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

    7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

    8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

    9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

    10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

    11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

    12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

    13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

    Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
    Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

    14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

    15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:11:14 PM PDT · 146 of 267
    Elsie to BigEdLB
    We are facing Murderous Islamic nonsense,

    People are FACING an eternity in HELL and you are worried about Muslims?

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:10:24 PM PDT · 145 of 267
    Elsie to Ben Mugged
    I will never understand the necessity of one christian religion to bash the beliefs of another christian religion.

    I just posted a whole lot of them from the bible.

    Feel free to pick out the ones you think are NOT applicable and re-post them for discussion.

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:09:02 PM PDT · 144 of 267
    Elsie to Jacquerie
    I'll take a street full of Mormon neighbors rather than one of atheists, leftist or muzzies any time.

    Are you bigoted against Muslims?

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:08:33 PM PDT · 142 of 267
    Elsie to Jacquerie
    I'll take a street full of Mormon neighbors rather than one of atheists, leftist or muzzies any time.

    Ok...

    But when I get to a street paved with gold; I highly doubt I'll find very many Mormons living on it.

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 4:07:26 PM PDT · 141 of 267
    Elsie to IronJack
    I daresay He doesn’t need any help from you.

    Daresay all you want; but the Bible teaches differently.