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  • Is Pope Francis a Liberal Protestant?

    11/21/2017 9:46:52 AM PST · 439 of 441
    Elsie to aMorePerfectUnion; Mad Dawg

    I'd bet good money that BOTH of y'all would be eating raw bird!

  • Here's What First Baptist Dallas Pastor Robert Jeffress Actually Said About Catholics — In Context

    11/21/2017 9:44:28 AM PST · 241 of 243
    Elsie to imardmd1
    In fact, though you often criticize the Roman Catholic viewpoint...

    And I do it using Scripture; not what I think it means or what some OTHER Prot has written about it.

    I'm of the camp of, "... turn the lion loose and let him defend himself..."

  • Here's What First Baptist Dallas Pastor Robert Jeffress Actually Said About Catholics — In Context

    11/21/2017 9:43:01 AM PST · 240 of 243
    Elsie to imardmd1
    In fact, though you often criticize the Roman Catholic viewpoint, the claim that a true believer could ignore the indwelling Holy Spirit and lose his salvation puts you squarely in their camp, along with every other Arminianist, doesn't it?

    It seems that you need validation of your claims here.

  • Here's What First Baptist Dallas Pastor Robert Jeffress Actually Said About Catholics — In Context

    11/21/2017 9:40:31 AM PST · 239 of 243
    Elsie to imardmd1
    Elsie, rejection of the "once saved, saved forever" promise of Jesus should have no place in the thoughts of a regenerated believer. And coloring the rejection of it with pejorative terms does not improve the validity of the denial.

    And yet when I read it one way; and actually using the bible to back up my understanding; I get quite a push back.


    ...Help My Unbelief...

    Mark 9:24

  • Why People Hate the Media: Journalists Lash Out at Sanders Asking What They’re Thankful For

    11/21/2017 9:35:23 AM PST · 25 of 28
    Elsie to Bratch
    I’m waiting for the day she requires the assembled reporters to stand and recite the “Pledge of Allegiance” before they can ask any questions.

  • Hell Has to Be

    11/21/2017 9:30:06 AM PST · 47 of 50
    Elsie to Salvation

    Of course.

    Just like the first speaks of past tense.

  • Why People Hate the Media: Journalists Lash Out at Sanders Asking What They’re Thankful For

    11/21/2017 5:16:16 AM PST · 18 of 28
    Elsie to Kaslin

    Never
    let
    them
    back
    on
    White House
    property
    again.

  • Franken Reportedly Will Not Resign

    11/21/2017 5:10:01 AM PST · 123 of 126
    Elsie to ought-six

    Not on Labor Day.

  • Franken Reportedly Will Not Resign

    11/21/2017 5:08:27 AM PST · 122 of 126
    Elsie to HKMk23
    “Ted Kennedy without the dead girl.”
    Is a diversion like, "Look! There's a squirrel!!"
    So when riding the Tube;
    Ladies; protect that fair boob;
    Or some pervert may give it a twirl.
  • Franken Reportedly Will Not Resign

    11/21/2017 4:58:19 AM PST · 121 of 126
    Elsie to alternatives?
    Losing your rights because of an accusation is unfair.

    And yet; where would Israel be today without Potiphar's Wife?


  • Franken Reportedly Will Not Resign

    11/21/2017 4:53:25 AM PST · 119 of 126
    Elsie to Buckeye McFrog

    Teddy’s choice of nubile young women
    included one that knew nothing of swimmin’.
    Teddy got out alive
    but his story don’t jive.
    Why couldn’t his door jam and keep him in?

  • Franken Reportedly Will Not Resign

    11/21/2017 4:47:27 AM PST · 117 of 126
    Elsie to Kaslin

    Al Franken Just Will Not Resign
    “Everythings going to be fine”.
    “I’m not one of those rubes,
    who grabs sleeping boobs,
    of women, laying supine.”

  • Franken Reportedly Will Not Resign

    11/21/2017 4:42:49 AM PST · 115 of 126
    Elsie to Mark17

    VERY talented; but a comrade; NOT a competitor!

  • Hell Has to Be

    11/21/2017 4:41:13 AM PST · 44 of 50
    Elsie to Elsie
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_Hades#The_word_.22Hades.22_in_Christian_usage_in_English ... contains all kinds of 'teaching' moments about the region between life and finally judgement.

    I think the BIBLE is clear when it uses SLEEP.


    Psalm 13:3
    Look on me and answer, Lord my God. Give light to my eyes, or I will sleep in death,
     
    Psalm 90:5
    Yet you sweep people away in the sleep of death— they are like the new grass of the morning:
     
    Daniel 12:2
    Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
     
     
    John 11:12-13
    His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.”
    Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep.
     

    1 Corinthians 15:51-52
    Listen, I tell you a mystery:
    We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.
    For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
     

    Ephesians 5:14
    This is why it is said: “Wake up, sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.”
     

    1 Thessalonians 4:13
    Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope.
     
     


    And; if you are sleeping; then you will wake up:
     



    Daniel 12:2
    Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.

  • Hell Has to Be

    11/21/2017 4:32:15 AM PST · 43 of 50
    Elsie to FNU LNU
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     - 
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    hadē
    ᾅδῃ*
    Hades
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    eparas
    ἐπάρας
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    of him
  • Hell Has to Be

    11/21/2017 4:11:33 AM PST · 42 of 50
    Elsie to FNU LNU
    Elsie, Lk. 16 doesn’t have Gehenna in it, but Hades, and they’re not the same.

     
    Gehenna - Wikipedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_Hinnom

    Gehenna, (/ɡɪˈhɛnə/; גיא בן הינום‎ Ancient Greek: γέεννα), from the Hebrew Gehinnom (Rabbinical: גהנום‎/גהנם‎), is a small valley in Jerusalem and the Jewish and Christian analogue of hell.

     
     



     

    Christian views on Hades - Wikipedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_Hades

    Christian views on Hades Lazarus and the Rich Man (illumination from the Codex Aureus of Echternach). Hades, according to various Christian denominations, is "the ...

     
  • Hell Has to Be

    11/21/2017 4:06:24 AM PST · 41 of 50
    Elsie to Salvation
    Another good story.

    Ah; true; but is it factual or fiction??


    Luke has recorded that JESUS said ' “There was a rich man...'

    HE said 'was', as though it had actually happened in the past.

  • Is Pope Francis a Liberal Protestant?

    11/21/2017 3:59:49 AM PST · 432 of 441
    Elsie to daniel1212
    The waferJesus, as well as the version of Christ which has Him basically making Mary
    the Queen of Heaven of heaven, dispenser of all grace, lord of all the angels, etc. etc .
    is indeed false, but theologically the Christ of the Apostle's Creed is sound.
     
     
     
     
     



     

    The way it's written:

     
    Galatians 4:4-5
    But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those under the law, that we might receive adoption to sonship.
     
    The way Rome teaches it:
     
    Galatians 4:4-5
    But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a....
     
    Co-Redemptrix, 
    Ark of the Covenant,
    Beloved daughter of the Father,
    Cause of Our Joy,
    Cause of our Salvation ,
    Comfort of the Afflicted,
    Destroyer of Heresy,
    Ever-virgin ,
    Favoured Daughter of the Father,
    Gate of Heaven,
    God-bearer,
    Health of the Sick,
    Help of Christians,
    Holy Mary,
    Holy Mother of God,
    Holy Virgin of Virgins,
    House of Gold,
    Joy of the Just,
    Majesty,
    Mirror of Justice,
    Morning Star,
    Most Holy,
    Mother Admirable,
    Mother Inviolate,
    Mother Most Amiable,
    Mother Most Chaste,
    Mother Most Pure,
    Mother of Christ,
    Mother of Divine Grace,
    Mother of God,
    Mother of Good Counsel,
    Mother of Mercy,
    Mother of Orphans,
    Mother of Our Creator,
    Mother of Our Redeemer,
    Mother of Sorrows,
    Mother of the Church,
    Mother of the Poor,
    Mother of the Word,
    Mother of the Word Incarnate,
    Mother Thrice Admirable,
    Mother Undefiled,
    Mystical Rose,
    Nova Eva (the New Eve),
    Our Lady of Compassion,
    Our Lady of Confidence,
    Our Lady of Victory,
    Our Lady, Star of the Sea,
    Our Mother of Perpetual Help,
    Queen Assumed Into Heaven,
    Queen Conceived Without Original Sin,
    Queen of All Saints,
    Queen of Angels,
    Queen of Apostles,
    Queen of Confessors,
    Queen of Families,
    Queen of Heaven,
    Queen of Martyrs,
    Queen of Patriarchs,
    Queen of Peace,
    Queen of Prophets,
    Queen of the Most Holy Rosary,
    Queen of Virgins,
    Ravisher of Hearts,
    Refuge of Sinners,
    Seat of Wisdom,
    She Who Shows the Way,
    Singular Vessel of Devotion,
    Spiritual Vessel,
    Spouse of the Holy Spirit,
    sovereign Mistress of the Angels,   
    Tabernacle of the Lord,
    Temple of the Holy Spirit,
    Temple of the Most Holy Trinity,
    Throne of Wisdom,
    Tower of David,
    Tower of Ivory,
    Treasure House of God's Graces,
    Untier of Knots,
    Vessel of Honor,
    Virgin God-bearer,
    Virgin Most Faithful,
    Virgin Most Merciful,
    Virgin Most Powerful,
    Virgin Most Prudent,
    Virgin Most Renowned,
    Virgin Most Venerable
    Virgin of virgins,                           born under the law, to HELP redeem those under the law, that we might receive adoption to sonship; sooner or later; and not spend TOO much time in Purgatory.
     

  • Is Pope Francis a Liberal Protestant?

    11/21/2017 3:56:20 AM PST · 431 of 441
    Elsie to Luircin; Normandy; teppe; StormPrepper
    Mormonism and Islam.

    HEY!!



    "I Will Be a Second Mohammed"

    In the heat of the Missouri 'Mormon War' of 1838, Joseph Smith made the following claim,

               "I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was "the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword". So shall it eventually be with us: "Joseph Smith or the Sword!" [1]

    It is most interesting that a self-proclaimed Christian prophet would liken himself to Mohammed, the founder of Islam. His own comparison invites us to take a closer look as well. And when we do, we find some striking and troubling parallels. Consider the following.

    • Mohammed and Joseph Smith both had humble beginnings. Neither had formal religious connections or upbringing, and both were relatively uneducated. Both founded new religions by creating their own scriptures. In fact, followers of both prophets claim these scriptures are miracles since their authors were the most simple and uneducated of men.[2]

    • Both prophets claim of having angel visitations, and of receiving divine revelation to restore pure religion to the earth again. Mohammed was told that both Jews and Christians had long since corrupted their scriptures and religion. In like manner, Joseph Smith was told that all of Christianity had become corrupt, and that consequently the Bible itself was no longer reliable. In both cases, this corruption required a complete restoration of both scripture and religion. Nothing which preceded either prophet could be relied upon any longer. Both prophets claim they were used of God to restore eternal truths which once existed on earth, but had been lost due to human corruption.

    • Both prophets created new scripture which borrowed heavily from the Bible, but with a substantially new spin.   In his Koran, Mohammed appropriates a number of Biblical themes and characters, but he changes the complete sense of many passages, claiming to 'correct' the Bible. In so doing he changes many doctrines, introducing his own in their place. In like manner, Joseph Smith created the Book of Mormon, much of which is plagiarized directly from the King James Bible. Interestingly, the Book of Mormon claims that this same Bible has been substantially corrupted and is therefore unreliable. In addition, Joseph Smith went so far as to actually create his own version of the Bible itself, the 'Inspired Version'  in which he both adds and deletes significant portions of text, claiming he is 'correcting' it. In so doing he also changes many doctrines, introducing his own in their place.

    • As a part of their new scriptural 'spin', both prophets saw themselves as prophesied in scripture, and both saw themselves as a continuation of a long line of Biblical prophets. Mohammed saw himself as a continuation of the ministry of Moses and Jesus. Joseph Smith saw himself as a successor to Enoch, Melchizedek, Joseph and Moses. Joseph Smith actually wrote himself into his own version of the Bible by name.

    • Both prophets held up their own scripture as superior to the Bible. Mohammed claimed that the Koran was a perfect copy of the original which was in heaven. The Koran is therefore held to be absolutely perfect, far superior to the Bible and superceding it. In like manner, Joseph Smith also made the following claim. "I told the Brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding its precepts, than by any other book." [3]

    • Despite their claim that the Bible was corrupt, both prophets admonished their followers to adhere to its teachings. An obvious contradiction, this led to selective acceptance of some portions and wholesale rejection of others. As a result, the Bible is accepted by both groups of followers only to the extent that it agrees with their prophet's own superior revelation.

    • Both Mohammed and Joseph Smith taught that true salvation was to be found only in their respective religions. Those who would not accept their message were considered 'infidels', pagans or Gentiles. In so doing, both prophets became the enemy of genuine Christianity, and have led many people away from the Christ of the Bible.

    • Both prophets encountered fierce opposition to their new religions and had to flee from town to town because of threats on their lives. Both retaliated to this opposition by forming their own militias. Both ultimately set up their own towns as model societies.

    • Both Mohammed and Joseph Smith left unclear instructions about their successors. The majority of Mohammed's followers, Sunni Muslims, believe they were to elect their new leader, whereas the minority, Shiite Muslims, look to Ali ibn Abi lib, whom they consider Divinely appointed, as the rightful successor to Muhammad, and the first imam. (Ali was the cousin and son-in-law of the Islamic prophet Muhammad). Similarly, the majority of Joseph Smith's followers, Mormons, believed their next prophet should have been the existing leader of their quorum of twelve apostles, whereas the minority, RLDS, believed Joseph Smith's own son should have been their next prophet. Differences on this issue, and many others, have created substantial tension between these rival groups of each prophet.

    • Mohammed taught that Jesus was just another of a long line of human prophets, of which he was the last. He taught that he was superior to Christ and superceded Him. In comparison, Joseph Smith also made the following claim.

    "I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him, but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet." [4] In light of these parallels, perhaps Joseph Smith's claim to be a second Mohammed unwittingly became his most genuine prophecy of all.


    [1] Joseph Smith made this statement at the conclusion of a speech in the public square at Far West, Missouri on October 14, 1838. This particular quote is documented in Fawn M. Brodie, No Man Knows My History, second edition, (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1971), p. 230-231. Fawn Brodie's footnote regarding this speech contains valuable information, and follows. “Except where noted, all the details of this chapter [16] are taken from the History of the [Mormon] Church. This speech, however, was not recorded there, and the report given here is based upon the accounts of seven men. See the affidavits of T.B. Marsh, Orson Hyde, George M. Hinkle, John Corrill, W.W. Phelps, Samson Avard, and Reed Peck in Correspondence, Orders, etc., pp. 57-59, 97-129. The Marsh and Hyde account, which was made on October 24, is particularly important. Part of it was reproduced in History of the [Mormon] Church, Vol. III, p. 167. See also the Peck manuscript, p. 80. Joseph himself barely mentioned the speech in his history; see Vol. III, p. 162.

    [2] John Ankerberg & John Weldon, The Facts on Islam, (Eugene, OR: Harvest House Publishers, 1998), pp.8-9. Eric Johnson, Joseph Smith & Muhammed, (El Cajon, CA: Mormonism Research Ministry, 1998), pp. 6-7.

    [3] Documentary History of the [Mormon] Church, vol.4, pp.461.

    [4] Documentary History of the [Mormon] Church, vol.6, pp.408-409.

  • Is Pope Francis a Liberal Protestant?

    11/21/2017 3:52:29 AM PST · 430 of 441
    Elsie to Luircin

    It’s an oldie.

    Shall I amend (Version 2.1) it to include our new players?