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  • Tom Brady's tale doesn't hold weight [Says sack Brady for Super Bowl if he cheated]

    01/26/2015 1:32:35 PM PST · 322 of 322
    Colofornian to Colofornian

    Was initial drop of about 17% ND then another 15%...so 2nd td had gretest impact on run game...% drop wise

  • Tom Brady's tale doesn't hold weight [Says sack Brady for Super Bowl if he cheated]

    01/26/2015 1:30:50 PM PST · 321 of 322
    Colofornian to TexasGator

    6 of 15 initial plays were runs...40 percent...once down 14 0...runs became less than 25% and once down 3 scores runs became under 10 %7

  • Tom Brady's tale doesn't hold weight [Says sack Brady for Super Bowl if he cheated]

    01/26/2015 1:27:33 PM PST · 319 of 322
    Colofornian to TexasGator

    The only time the Colts had the ball and had the “luxury” of losing only by 7 Was lst qtr...and not even late in lst qtr...either this was simply an honest oversight on your part or you’re apologist best to reconstruct the game itself

  • Tom Brady's tale doesn't hold weight [Says sack Brady for Super Bowl if he cheated]

    01/26/2015 1:18:04 PM PST · 318 of 322
    Colofornian to TexasGator
    I call BS on this. After it was 14-0, they ran two runs for a first down then went 3 and out on 3 passes.

    No they didn't. They ran it on FD for five yds...a Herron run ... NOT a first...the FD they got was on a pass...then went 3 & out on 3 passes...

    Find it: here

    But I recounted the 2nd qtr and somehow missed the 1 yd TD run and another run...so they only ran it 4 more times the first half (not including Luck's intentional kneel to end the first half) vs. 13 more passes...

    So after they were down...23 passes vs. only five runs from late lst qtr to end of 3rd qtr...about 83 percent pass game...

    You don’t abandon your game plan when it is 14-7.

    This is where your ignorance of the specific game is showing...because the Colts never had the ball when it was only 14 to 7.

    NE took it down near end of first half to make it 17 to 7.

    The colts only had 1 kneeldown to end lst half...and then the Pats rec'd kickoff to open the 2nd half...Except for that kneeldown, the Colts didn't have the ball from 4:five four left in first half to about 10 minutes left in 3rd qtr...

  • The Gospel According to the Church Fathers

    01/26/2015 9:24:34 AM PST · 307 of 317
    Colofornian to vladimir998; Mark17; All
    “FREEPER Mark17 references “Protestants” and then you cite “Mormons” as if they were part of the umbrella of “Protestants.”” False. I specifically put “Mormons” above the link and had that link separate from the links to Protestant examples. Care to get something else wrong?

    Sorry. This doesn't pass the straight-face test, and impugns your own credibility.

    ALL: Take a look for yourself @ post #79.

    Mark17 says: “I have been a Protestant since 1970, and this is the first time I have EVER heard this" & Vladimir responds to this SAME subject thusly:

    Really? I used google for about 20 seconds and found these:

    Six links down, he mentions "Mormons." But again under the same umbrella of "these"...because he doesn't list Mormons last...the very next link is about Protestants as well.

    If "Mormons" was meant to be distinct, why not list them last?

    And why list them at all if the subject is only Protestants?

  • The Gospel According to the Church Fathers

    01/26/2015 8:57:34 AM PST · 306 of 317
    Colofornian to vladimir998; All
    Abortion. That’s the word you need to find. Otherwise my point stands. And, of course, it will.

    #1 You do realize, doncha, that "abortion" is merely the means used to describe infanticide.

    It's an umbrella word that has described all kinds of ways to murder an infant: early induction to bring about an intentional "miscarriage"; suction aspirator to slice & dice; etc. etc.

    It's like saying I need to find the specific word "firearms" in the Bible to talk against murder-by-firearm. It's like saying I need to find the word "bomb" in the Bible if I wanted to use the Bible to speak against terrorists.

    #2 "Abortion" -- as I said -- is a word used to describe infant-killing. Come on Vladimir, find us the words fraticide (sibling-killing), matricide (mother-killing), or patricide (father-killing) in the Bible.

    Find us the word uxorcide ("wife-killing") in the Bible.

    And, since these words aren't there, by logical extension of your lamest argument, whatever you are using to reference abortion applies to these types of family murders as well.

    Totally asenine!

  • The Gospel According to the Church Fathers

    01/25/2015 8:26:47 PM PST · 281 of 317
    Colofornian to All

    (Last post from Matthew 23, v. 9)

  • The Gospel According to the Church Fathers

    01/25/2015 8:26:09 PM PST · 280 of 317
    Colofornian to GeronL; All
    Jesus is the only church father I need

    Jesus: 9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.

    (So much for Padres, eh?)

  • The Gospel According to the Church Fathers

    01/25/2015 8:07:42 PM PST · 278 of 317
    Colofornian to vladimir998; Mark17; 1010RD; Elsie; All
    Mormons: http://www.mormon.org/beliefs/restoration

    FREEPER Mark17 references "Protestants" and then you cite "Mormons" as if they were part of the umbrella of "Protestants."

    SORRY. But ALL of the Mormon Church literature steadfastly says they are NOT Protestant; they are not a "tree" from the "trunk" of Protestantism.

    Straw man "proof" that needs weeding out by a gardener not taking very good care of his comments here...

  • The Gospel According to the Church Fathers

    01/25/2015 7:57:33 PM PST · 277 of 317
    Colofornian to vladimir998; CynicalBear; All
    2 He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. 3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

    Matthew 18:2: 2 He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. 3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

    The Greek word for "little child" here is brephos -- and it's used interchangeably in the NT Gospels for both a born infant (like here)...as well as preborn infants... like John the Baptist in Elizabeth's womb:

    41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 42 In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43 But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. 45 Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!” (Luke 1)

    IoW, the NT Gospels -- by definition -- describes born and pre-born infants the same...as infants...

    Hence, any harm coming to either is by very definition: Infanticide.

    If you can't recognize this in the authority of the Gospels themselves, and must superimpose some mere man to make some doctrinal statement re: abortion, I'm sorry for such limited understanding and overeliance upon edicts from Rome on your part.

  • The Gospel According to the Church Fathers

    01/25/2015 7:46:38 PM PST · 276 of 317
    Colofornian to 1010RD; metmom; All
    If faith is sufficient alone why did Jesus Christ command further ordinances like baptism and the laying on of hands?

    1010...I am not not your typical Evangelical who tends to downplay baptism...

    I think passages like 1 Peter 3:19-21, Acts 2:38-42, Titus 3:5 etc. need to be taken quite seriously.

    STILL...

    ...show me ANYWHERE in the Bible where baptism is referenced as an "ordinance."

    Sorry, but Joseph Smith borrowed that term from the Baptists & other similar denoms who mistakenly applied "ordinance" to Sacraments.

    "Ordinance" just means decree. What God has ordained.

    Yet NOWHERE is baptism referenced as an "ordinance."

    It's a generic term...which doesn't intersect with the NT practice of baptism...at all...

  • The Gospel According to the Church Fathers

    01/25/2015 7:40:15 PM PST · 275 of 317
    Colofornian to 1010RD; Springfield Reformer; All
    Nonetheless, baptism is a necessary condition for salvation.

    Ya know, 1010, I agree with the import of baptism...

    The question is...IS it an absolute aspect as you seem to claim it to be.

    Jesus told the thief on the cross that he would be with Him in paradise...

    Sorry...but no Mormon temple baptism pool was available for Jesus to baptize said thief.

  • Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)

    01/25/2015 7:37:52 PM PST · 571 of 766
    Colofornian to 1010RD; CynicalBear; terycarl; All
    Christ tells Peter to expect continuing revelation.

    (Oh, you mean like from Mormon "prophets" and "apostles," eh?)

    Despite Hebrews 1:1-2, Mormons have been told that Jesus can't speak directly to His Church on earth minus going thru the intermediary camped out in Salt Lake City ...even though the writer of Hebrews clearly says that in the PAST God spoke through prophets...now He speaks through His Son, the Living Revelation of God!

    (You DO know what the word PAST means, doncha 1010?)

    Why has Lds Inc. bumped Jesus Christ out of the picture as the Church's one Living Prophet?
    Why has Lds Inc. silenced Him?
    Can He not speak directly any more minus having to "relay" everything thru Salt Lake City?

    I mean it's downright hypocritical for the Lds Church to insist that God only gives one "prophet" to the church, and then to systematically exclude mention of Jesus Christ as continuing to be THAT SINGLE Living Prophet Himself!!! ...meaning...that the Lds church has replaced Him!

    Even though MANY of the Old Testament prophets were contemporaries of each other (God speaking through more than one prophet at a time), Lds Inc. "told" God that He can't do that any more -- they have shut the mouths of God speaking through more than a single prophet.. and what's worse, unlike what Heb. 1:1-2 clearly says -- that Jesus is our everlasting "prophetic" voice we hear (see John 10)...Mormons say "no" -- we've shut up Jesus' voice as well...and we ONLY hear in a church body where "ONLY here is the Lord’s prophet."

  • The Gospel According to the Church Fathers

    01/25/2015 7:30:39 PM PST · 274 of 317
    Colofornian to 1010RD; Springfield Reformer; All
    Remember Christ’s True Church will have Apostles, Prophets, Bishops, Evangelists, Deacons and the authority to baptize in his name.

    1010, you've regularly defended Mormonism on FR...so same question as last post:

    ...tell us 1010RD:

    (1) If Jesus had 12 apostles in Israel, as the Mormon Church portends...And then, as the Book of Mormon claims, he came to the Americas and set up another 12 apostles, doesn't that make (at least) two dozen apostles world-wide?

    Why doesn't THEN the Mormon Church have two dozen "apostles" as part of their Apostles' Quorum?

    While the Mormon Church attempts to "hearken" back to the Biblical Scriptures, if it was truly hearkening back to ALL that the Mormons claim as "Scripture," it would have at least 24 apostles, not 12. Maybe even 25 given Paul's addition. Yet it doesn't. It fails the "hearken" test.

    Perhaps the Mormon apologists should stop this lying (or to give them the benefit of the doubt, they should stop bandying about false numbers as some sort of "proof" of its authenticity).

    (2) And, hey, since we're on this sasme topic, we know the New Testament church had pastors (Eph. 4:11)...so where are the titled "pastors" in the LDS church if it indeed is a "restoration?"

    The same Ephesians 4 section talks about titled "evangelists"? Where are the titled "evangelists" in the contemporary Mormon church if its a "restoration?"

    We also know that Anna was a New Testament prophetess (Luke 2:36) and that Philip's daughters were also prophetesses in Acts 21:9. If the LDS Church is a restoration where are its titled prophetesses?

    Guess we can agree that the Mormon Church flunks having "the same organization" as the New Testament church, right?

  • The Gospel According to the Church Fathers

    01/25/2015 7:26:50 PM PST · 273 of 317
    Colofornian to 1010RD; CynicalBear; All
    The True Church must have the same organization and ordinances as the church Christ set up.

    Well, let's see...haven't you gone to bat aplenty thru the years for the Mormon Church, 1010RD?

    So tell us 1010RD:

    (1) If Jesus had 12 apostles in Israel, as the Mormon Church portends...And then, as the Book of Mormon claims, he came to the Americas and set up another 12 apostles, doesn't that make (at least) two dozen apostles world-wide?

    Why doesn't THEN the Mormon Church have two dozen "apostles" as part of their Apostles' Quorum?

    While the Mormon Church attempts to "hearken" back to the Biblical Scriptures, if it was truly hearkening back to ALL that the Mormons claim as "Scripture," it would have at least 24 apostles, not 12. Maybe even 25 given Paul's addition. Yet it doesn't. It fails the "hearken" test.

    Perhaps the Mormon apologists should stop this lying (or to give them the benefit of the doubt, they should stop bandying about false numbers as some sort of "proof" of its authenticity).

    (2) And, hey, since we're on this sasme topic, we know the New Testament church had pastors (Eph. 4:11)...so where are the titled "pastors" in the LDS church if it indeed is a "restoration?"

    The same Ephesians 4 section talks about titled "evangelists"? Where are the titled "evangelists" in the contemporary Mormon church if its a "restoration?"

    We also know that Anna was a New Testament prophetess (Luke 2:36) and that Philip's daughters were also prophetesses in Acts 21:9. If the LDS Church is a restoration where are its titled prophetesses?

    Guess we can agree that the Mormon Church flunks having "the same organization" as the New Testament church, right?

  • Tom Brady's tale doesn't hold weight [Says sack Brady for Super Bowl if he cheated]

    01/25/2015 6:50:44 PM PST · 316 of 322
    Colofornian to A CA Guy
    Not a Patriot fan, but what was thw difference in the second half again?

    Patriots played with 11 (of 12) underinflated footballs in first half; referees caught it late in first half & corrected it for 2nd half.

    So some Patriot apologists (apologists for cheating) are claiming that since the Pats scored more pts in 2nd half (when balls were properly inflated) vs. the first half (when they weren't), that no advantage was gained.

    IoW, since they won by a large margin, 'twas somehow irrelevant.

    I merely pointed out that...

    (a) even had the Pats won anyway, tis no different than if a Dem candidate who won "anyway" still gained illegal votes from "dead voters" or "multiple voters."

    (b) Upon closer look, people can claim the inflated ball issue may have been "was a wash" ... but not really that the Pats did better with inflated balls vs. uninflated.

    The reason for that is that 7 pts in the 2nd half were tied to a Patriot interception whereby no Patriot passes were involved (IoW...no Brady passes were tied to that TD). Also, aside from that the Patriots scored 3-of-5 drives in the first half and 3-of-5 drives in the 2nd half.

    (c) As for the apparent still "even" nature of (b), a case can still be made that that the underinflated balls helped the Patriots score at least 7 pts in the first half that they would not have gotten...and that had the Colts been down by fewer points late-late in the lst qtr -- all the way to some point in the third qtr -- they would not have abandoned their run game -- vitally important because of the rainy conditions.

    "Everyone knows" how difficult it is to sustain an offense in such rain minus a run game. And the Colts, once down 14-0, went from running the ball 40% of the time to just 13% of the time...only running the ball 3 times in 2+ quarters.

  • Tom Brady's tale doesn't hold weight [Says sack Brady for Super Bowl if he cheated]

    01/25/2015 5:24:13 PM PST · 314 of 322
    Colofornian to TexasGator

    (Oh...sure QBS NEVER handle any balls In those minutes before kickoffs)

  • Saturday Night Live spoofs Patriots DeflateGate scandal

    01/25/2015 2:40:03 PM PST · 22 of 23
    Colofornian to packrat35; All
    The score after halftime NE - 28 IN - 0 Looks like it didn’t help IN or hurt NE to have inflated balls.

    #1...ONE of those TDs was a 13 yd drive set up by interception in which Brady didn't pass.

    #2...the Pats had 1 more possession to score in the second half than the first.

    #3...see my slippery slope comment here -- post #105

    #4...

    I think one of my most disappointed observations in FREEPERs is this argument.

    Why?

    Well, we're supposedly "conservative" and oppose Democratic ballotbox shenanigans.

    Yet what this argument also exposes is that if a Dem candidate "would have won anyway" minus the shenanigans, that we should somehow remain quiet about the dead voting, or people voting multiple times.

    It's frankly a utilitarian ethic that is relativist, NOT Christian ... in fact is distinctly UN Christian...militates vs. the truth and elevates falsehood, deceitfulness, etc.

    Anyway, those who make this argument should simply "shut up" about Democratic shenanigans from now on...IF that Dem "would have won anyway"...IF they are going to be "consistent" and not hypocritical, that is.

    I expect LIBERALS and some LIBERTARIANS to argue that way...NOT conservatives...and NOT Christians.

  • Saturday Night Live spoofs Patriots DeflateGate scandal

    01/25/2015 2:30:53 PM PST · 21 of 23
    Colofornian to Verginius Rufus
    I think the 12th ball was kept at the proper pressure for use when the kicker was going for a field goal or extra point.

    (My understanding is that each team submits its own dozen footballs for use by offense; and that the placekickers have 8 balls that are a separate pool -- and used by BOtH TEAMS. )

  • Tom Brady's tale doesn't hold weight [Says sack Brady for Super Bowl if he cheated]

    01/25/2015 2:13:22 PM PST · 310 of 322
    Colofornian to A CA Guy; All
    You had refs touching the ball forty times before half time, so it must not have been that big of a deal.

    #1...these refs don't make their living tossing & catching footballs day in, day out, during football season. (guess who does?)

    The pace of the NFL is fairly frenetic...not standing there...weighing the ball in hands each play.

    #2...Baseball umpires may catch a scruffed up or cut-up baseball, but thats because they are constantly tossing out baseballs during the game...even when they don't carefully scrutinize them...Football refs simply rotate in the same balls...and don't have a "toss them out" mechanic ingrained in them

    If baseball umps didn't toss out so many balls & used the same old 12 balls during the course of the same game, & didn't want to slow the game down by scrutinizing them...yes, you'd have more cut-up/scruffed-up/ lopsided (from that hard-hit double hit the previous inning) baseballs remaining in play.

    And what? You don't know what pitchers can do with that? Or a slightly lopsided ball?

    And for a pitcher who's been throwing with such baseballs 92 to 93% of ALL pitches the first half of a game then to give a press conference indicating they couldn't tell the difference when what they do is to throw baseballs for a living & toss them almost day in day out February thru October????

    Wow!

    Just how gullible ARE the Patriot online apologists to believe Brady's press-conference comments hook line & sinker?

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/25/2015 12:56:21 PM PST · 108 of 112
    Colofornian to over3Owithabrain; All
    Great point on the 12th Patriot football. Lots of wannabe physicists here and everywhere trying hard to excuse the Colts footballs not being illegal "they must have been in warmer temps than the Patriots footballs blah blah". Well then how about that magic 12th Patriot football that escaped the laws of Belichicks's physics? And apparently the laws of physics also ceased in the second half when the Patriots footballs were properly reinflated and didn't drop 2 psi again. Lots of Lance Armstrong type kool aid drinkers out there...

    Yes. They argue that these "laws of physics" are ABSOLUTES and would somehow ABSOLUTELY alter the psi that significantly; yet somehow didn't significantly impact over HALF of the footballs...as if these "Laws of Physics" operated so discriminately to ONLY target the Pats' balls.

    Yeah.

    Right.

    Here's the other thing about Bellicheat the Science guy trying to come across as our resident physicist at his press conference Saturday...

    IF, as the Pats say, these "laws of physics" are so CERTAIN to kick in, then why not ensure that the ball is inflated to 13.five psi (the upper end of the legal zone) vs...what the apologists all assume...that ALL of the PATS balls minus one were set at 12.five pregame?

    And the answer?

    Because the PATS intentionally didn't want the PSI to remain ANYTHING remotely close to the legal psi NOT only for the first half, but if these wannabe physicists are right, hey, the PSI would have dropped another two PSI to 8.five by late 4th qtr...IF the above-freezing air was having THAT much of an impact upon the footballs!!!

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/25/2015 12:49:10 PM PST · 107 of 112
    Colofornian to Sodbuster; mowowie; All
    The score was 45-7. I don’t think a few psi in a damn ball made a hell of a lot of difference.

    I think one of my most disappointed observations in FREEPERs is this argument.

    Why?

    Well, we're supposedly "conservative" and oppose Democratic ballotbox shenanigans.

    Yet what this argument also exposes is that if a Dem candidate "would have won anyway" minus the shenanigans, that we should somehow remain quiet about the dead voting, or people voting multiple times.

    It's frankly a utilitarian ethic that is relativist, NOT Christian ... in fact is distinctly UN Christian...militates vs. the truth and elevates falsehood, deceitfulness, etc.

    Anyway, those who make this argument should simply "shut up" about Democratic shenanigans from now on...IF that Dem "would have won anyway"...IF they are going to be "consistent" and not hypocritical, that is.

    I expect LIBERALS and some LIBERTARIANS to argue that way...NOT conservatives...and NOT Christians.

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/25/2015 12:21:04 PM PST · 105 of 112
    Colofornian to Sodbuster; All
    The score was 45-7. I don’t think a few psi in a damn ball made a hell of a lot of difference.

    To the ultimate outcome, perhaps not.

    But I've seen enough sports, enough liberal politics, enough of life to see the slippery slope play itself out.

    Let's review, for example, and say the lower psi impact ONLY one key play in the first half ... Brady's 30 yd completion to Vereen late in the first qtr that was THE key play of the Pats' 2nd TD.

    I dont think the lower psi helped Brady per se; BUT it DID aid the Patriot receivers in the first half hold on to a slippery ball in pelting rain conditions.

    But let's just say ... for argument's sake ... that the ONLY play it helped was the 30 yd catch by Vereen...and that the Pats wouldn't have scored minus their shenanigans.

    How would that have impacted the game?

    Well up until the 2nd Pat score, the Colts were running the ball 40 percent of the time & were averaging five yds per carry. Its no secret that in pelting rain conditions, a team's run game is vital.

    Once down 14 to 0, the Colts abandoned their run game. They ran it only twice more in first half. Had the Colts been down 10 to 7 at half..they also wouldn't have been passing 10 of 11 times in 3rd qtr.

    Bottom line: The Colts would have still been in the game early in the 3rd qtr.... and wouldn't have gone into desperation status where 87 percent of their calls from very late in first qtr to end of 3rd qtr were passes...which, of course, led to an interception like the one setting up a 13 yd Pat TD for its second to last score. Brady didn't pass on that 13 yd drive so whatever condition of the ball on that one didn't impact anything one way or the other.

    Trying to recover virtually with the pass alone in pouring rain was football suicide.

    (As to those who try to argue that the other 21 2nd half pts scored by the Pats somehow negates psi impact, well, theyve haven't really examined the reality that Brady only threw the ball "downfield" ONCE in the 2nd half...a 22 yarder to Edelman...He dinked & dunked the rest of the time...where psi won't matter on "grip"...and dinking & dunking was not only safe for pouring rain conditions, but hey, once the Pats began increasing their lead, they didn't need to toss it downfield)

    So, in review...let's say the early 2nd half score by the PATS put them up 17 to 7 instead of 24 to 7, we might have seen more running plays by the Colts, which in the rain could have sustained some drives and which would have made the game more competitive later in the game...

    Now at that point, it goes too far to say the Colts would have won minus the cheating. I don't argue that. I just say the Colts would have still been competitive well into the 3rd qtr as averting "football suicide" could have made their offense more potent than it was in the rain ... and would have relied on the pass less.

    I really think in all of the analysis of this, people ignore the rainy conditions' aspect.

    I don't think that in better weather conditions that psi makes all tOO MUCH of a difference...but when the weather is wet, and receivers have a tough time holding onto the ball...yes, can make a BIG difference.

  • Taunting of Muslims a form of fanaticism

    01/25/2015 12:03:20 PM PST · 48 of 52
    Colofornian to artichokegrower; Elsie; greyfoxx39; Alex Murphy; All
    From the offbase article:

    "Supposedly, the purpose is to taunt the so-called Muslim fanatics..."

    Mindreaders, eh?

    I'm not saying some of what Charlie Hebdo has published hasn't been "taunting" -- not only to Muslims but Roman Catholics & others -- but I'd let them speak for themselves re: what their inward motives are vs. the lame MSM attempt to superimpose it upon them.

    Are the people behind CH atheist?

    For most part, indeed.

    Secularists? (Yup)

    Their purposes could be any number of things...to be antigod, antisacred, to be dismissive of things religious, to hold up the falsity of Islam to proper ridicule, to be entertaining in the process, etc.

    But where does the SJ Mercury-News get off speaking for CH without quoting them?

    It reminds me of dozens of FREEPERs who through the years guess & attempt to superimpose upon the Flying Inman motives for posting Mormonism stuff..."anti-Mormon," "intolerance," "hate" etc. -- all without quoting any FI.

    If these people were consistent at all, they would rush in to defend the gobs of "anti-Islamic" content posted on FR. But they don't; and therefore, they aren't (consistent).

    They are, in reality, just like the SJ Mercury News: Defenders of heresy; defenders of falsehood; apologists for truthtwisters & truthbenders; spinsters of a false "tolerance" that winds up being intolerant of religious expressions -- whether spoken by Flying Inmans, or secular atheists like Charlie Hebdo.

    Only religious expressions pre-approved by them warrant to see the light of day.

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/25/2015 9:01:34 AM PST · 102 of 112
    Colofornian to mac_truck; All
    I'm not sure which is more inane, the story itself or the people that take it seriously.

    Well, what we have here is a microcosmic scenario emblematic of real life.

    Somebody cheats. We know which entity, but nobody PERSONALLY takes responsibility. (Kind of like the IRS scandal; yes, we know the IRS as an entity unfairly targeted conservatives, but no one PERSONALLY takes responsibility).

    And so people see this as lack of accountability run amok.

    No confessions any more for our kids to see; no repentance any more for our kids to see; just passing the buck, stalling, and a hope that those who are pressing to get to the bottom of it all get tired, stop persevering, giving up.

    We see this daily in a criminal court system where many perpetrators plead "not guilty" -- hoping the victims will stop coming to the endlessly delayed proceedings.

    What we ALSO see -- parallel wise -- is the same thing that happens in society.

    Somebody cheats. Others want accountability. Then the relativists step in and claim "everybody does it" -- or "it doesn't matter...it's inane" ... and they become apologists for the cheaters.

    When people become apologists for the cheaters, it only reinforces others to get to the bottom of it, or only frustrates others all the more, concluding 'Why bother with ANY accountability?' The cheaters and their apologists win the day, at the expense of our youngest generation -- and truth.

  • Taunting of Muslims a form of fanaticism

    01/25/2015 8:51:39 AM PST · 14 of 52
    Colofornian to artichokegrower; All
    From the article: They know that every time a cartoon about the Prophet Muhammad is published, the feelings of more than a billion Muslims are hurt...

    And, so, the San Jose Mercury News is telling us...that sentimentalism should rule the day...

    If you put out truth that, say, the UFO cult in San Diego was a cult, you might have prevented some suicides...but, hey, those suicides' feelings might have been hurt presuicide.

    Or, what if more people had told the truth about Jones operating in the Bay Area and his consequential Jonestown? Nope. Would have hurt some feelings. Keep it to yourself.

    And, hey, don't tell Satanists they are barking up the occultic tree. (Might hurt some feelings)

    Or, if the Scientologists nonsense about "clearing" and how people came from about planet is likewise nonsense...wouldn't want to hurt their feelings now, would we?

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/25/2015 8:43:53 AM PST · 100 of 112
    Colofornian to piytar
    The gambling industry should put the odds out as follows:

    What are the odds that the temperature would significantly impact 11 Patriot balls, but somehow escapes impact on the 12tth ball? And... What are the odds that the temperature would significantly impact 92 percent of the Patriots balls, but NOT the Colts balls?

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/25/2015 8:43:18 AM PST · 99 of 112
    Colofornian to MamaTexan
    ...weather conditions

    The gambling industry should put the odds out as follows:

    What are the odds that the temperature would significantly impact 11 Patriot balls, but somehow escapes impact on the 12th ball? And... What are the odds that the temperature would significantly impact 92 percent of the Patriots balls, but NOT the Colts balls?

  • Deflategate: The MSM, Athletic Supporters That They Are, Will Sniff Out the Truth

    01/25/2015 8:40:41 AM PST · 9 of 16
    Colofornian to a fool in paradise
    The media won’t even deal with the inflated temperature statistic...

    The gambling industry should put the odds out as follows:

    What are the odds that the temperature would significantly impact 11 Patriot balls, but somehow escapes impact on the 12tth ball? And... What are the odds that the temperature would significantly impact 92 percent of the Patriots balls, but NOT the Colts balls?

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/25/2015 8:34:20 AM PST · 98 of 112
    Colofornian to olezip
    The NFL specifications say the footballs must be inflated to 12½ to 13½ pounds. Have you checked to see what the ball feels like if it is 10½ psi? Do you know how much temperature changes the psi?

    Hey, if you take fifteen percent of air out of a ball...in very wet conditions...and replicated that over a season of wetconditioned games, yes, receivers are going to catch more passes than higherinflated balls.

    As for temperature, #1...it wasn't freezing on Pats sideline while being warm & balmy on Colts sideline...

    #2...The weather was above freezing thruout the game...fifteen one degrees at gametime...and these footballs were exposed to direct air less than 2 hrs...

  • Saturday Night Live spoofs Patriots DeflateGate scandal

    01/25/2015 8:19:59 AM PST · 14 of 23
    Colofornian to oldtech

    It’s what happens when u know the impersonal entitY...new England Pats...cheated...but no one PERSONALLY will fess up so that everyone can deal with it and move on

  • Deflategate: The MSM, Athletic Supporters That They Are, Will Sniff Out the Truth

    01/25/2015 8:16:15 AM PST · 6 of 16
    Colofornian to Cry if I Wanna

    and wbat? Had they kept using those footballs the Pats ones would have been down to 8.5 and 9 psi by late 4th qtr and the Colts football still ok? In abovs-freezing weather?

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/24/2015 6:59:02 AM PST · 70 of 112
    Colofornian to odawg

    51 degrees at gametime...hardly significant...balls weighed less than 4 hrs after originally weighed...and weighed in locker room too...not outside...both times

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/24/2015 6:56:12 AM PST · 68 of 112
    Colofornian to Palio di Siena

    Sure they will...the refs know the gangster hawks led the nfl in penalties in 2013 and 2014 and know their dbs push the envelope contact wise...seahawks are essentially no. 1 cheaters ON the field...the Pats OFF the field

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/24/2015 6:11:15 AM PST · 62 of 112
    Colofornian to Veggie Todd; All
    I saw a report tonight that said those footballs were only used during the first half. Didn’t New England score MORE points in the second half?

    #1 The 3rd TD in the 2nd half by NE was a mere 1-play 13-yd drive set up by an interception...where Brady didn't pass at all...so for proper "comparison" sake, we're looking here then at yes, 17 Pat pts in first half and really, 21 pts in 2nd half where Pats had passing plays leading to scores. Drives falter for all kinds of variable reasons besides "psi pressure"...so really when we're talking about this the Pats had 3 scores in the first half & 3 scores in the second half (where passing plays were done on the drives).

    #2 New England had the ball one more time in the 2nd half than the first half, upping the odds it would score more. (Indy rec'd the opening kickoff) So the Pats were 3-of-5 (60%) in the first-half drives where they scored; and, since they didn't pass on that 1 13-yd "drive", they were 3-of-5 in the other second-half drives where they scored using passing plays. (the same)

    #3 When you review the play-by-play, Brady only completed two "downfield" passes the entire game: A 30-yarder to Vereen late in the first quarter & a 22-yarder to Edelman in 2nd half. Everything else was pretty much dinks & dunks, and 3 other significant 2nd-half pass gains weren't Brady "push-outs" that would have really mattered psi-wise...a wide-out screen to Edelman for 23 yds; a 16-yd gain by Gronk -- a short pass with significant YAC (Yards After Catch); and a 16-yd td romp by an eligible lineman nobody covered...again, most of yardage coming after the catch. The rest of Brady's 2nd half passes were short passes averaging about 7 yds per gain.

    #4 Really, the way to look at how this broke advantageously for the Pats is that Brady's 30-yard deep pass to Vereen late in the first quarter was a ball made more catchable by the lower psi. No catch, that drive would have likely faltered.

    Therefore, had the Colts been down only 7-0 at that point -- vs. 14-0 -- they would not have abandoned their running game, which is vital to have in a wet, sloppy weathered game.

    Up until that drive, the Colts were running the ball 40% of the time...with success...5 yards per run...considered above average in the NFL.

    Once the Colts went down 14-0, it ran the ball only twice more the rest of the first half (passed it 10x).

    If the Colts had been down only 10-7 entering the 3rd qtr (vs. 17-7), I don't think they would have passed the ball 10 of 11 times in the 3rd qtr.

    Bottom line: Would the Colts have won without the cheating? (I'm not saying they would have). But I think they would have still been in the game early in the 3rd quarter and wouldn't have tried to pass the ball 87% of the time as they did in the 2nd & 3rd qtrs -- which, frankly, with pelting rain conditions, was offensive "suicide."

    So, even one major play -- like Vereen's 30-yard catch -- if aided by "DeflateGate" -- led to a "domino effect" -- a "slippery slope" if you will, where it became impossible for Indy to even be in the game early in the 2nd half.

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/24/2015 5:48:42 AM PST · 59 of 112
    Colofornian to olezip; All
    Why does the league not take a look at the inflation specifications? Maybe they are too stringent. Maybe a couple of pounds pressure will not hurt the game. Give the quarterbacks more leeway to use their preferences. Too big a deal is being made about two lbs of air pressure, IMO.

    (Oh...sure...and perhaps the football size is too "strigent" as well...Maybe a size smaller would not "hurt the game." Give not only the QBs more leeway, but the kickers, too...so that the Q's can add another dozen yards to their throwing prowess and the punters, too. And, hey, while we're at it...let's give Major League pitchers a lot more leeway as well. Stop tossing cut-up balls out of the game. Or, if a pitcher wants to use his son's T-ball rubber ball. Hey, why not? Just let them use their "preferences." "Too big a deal is being made" about a few inches of circumference or even the nature of the very skin of the ball).

    There. That'll "fix it" for professional sports! Good recommends!

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/23/2015 10:00:30 PM PST · 27 of 112
    Colofornian to LongWayHome; All
    and Aaron Rodgers is an innocent except he spilled the beans on himself. They ALL do this.

    Except that Rodgers says he likes to overflate footballs...and overinflating them actually would make it more difficult to catch -- especially in pelting rain conditions -- versus easier.

    The issue is less what aided (or not) Brady's throwing...'twas more about what aided the Patriot receivers' catchability in such wet conditions.

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/23/2015 9:58:03 PM PST · 25 of 112
    Colofornian to vette6387
    Megyn Kelly had a guy on tonight that ferrets out deception from what people say. He essentially said that both the coach and the quarterback were lying in their press conferences. And he pointed out the reasons why he came to that conclusion.

    Very interesting.

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/23/2015 9:53:20 PM PST · 22 of 112
    Colofornian to Rebelbase; All
    Okay, on an earlier FR thread today, Freeper Rebelbase mentioned: Can’t wait for the Seahawks’ fans crowd signs:
    Brady plays with his balls
    Brady said his balls are perfect
    Brady, don’t touch our balls

    Any other Freepers who want to contribute potential signage for Seahawks' fans?

    For starters, my suggestions include:

    'You can Kiss THESE balls if you like; just don't Hiss THOSE balls, mind you' [Graphic will be added]

  • Tom Brady's tale doesn't hold weight [Says sack Brady for Super Bowl if he cheated]

    01/23/2015 9:51:05 PM PST · 265 of 322
    Colofornian to Rebelbase; All
    Can’t wait for the Seahawks’ fans crowd signs:
    Brady plays with his balls
    Brady said his balls are perfect
    Brady, don’t touch our balls

    Okay...who wants to contribute potential signage for Seahawks' fans?

    How about:

    'You can Kiss THESE balls if you like; just don't Hiss THOSE balls, mind you' [Graphic will be added]

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/23/2015 9:47:54 PM PST · 17 of 112
    Colofornian to LongWayHome
    What a joke. The Carolina Panthers were heating footballs up on national TV this year & were just told to stop....no fine, nothing.

    Well, hey, at least in that case the refs knew somebody personal with the Panthers to "stop" whatever needed to be "stopped."

    We know New England cheated here. But, for some daggone reason, we just can't get the Pats to identify who's the one the NFL needs to tell them to "stop" "hissing" those balls.

    (Sounds to me like the PATS are setting up a PATSY...watch for the equipment manager to take the fall and claim he was THE lone nut & that this was no PATS "conspiracy")

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/23/2015 9:43:01 PM PST · 12 of 112
    Colofornian to Drango; leapfrog0202; All
    Wonder if they've interviewed Tom Brady yet? [Drango]

    I don’t even care for football, but after reading about this on FR several times today, I have to echo your question. [Leapfrog0202, post #7]

    Yup. Boston Globe's Ben Volin was asking this same question today:

    NFL’s silence on Deflategate is deafening
    "The NFL hasn’t yet interviewed the person whom most everyone else in the league believes is the central figure in this mess — Tom Brady." -- see Boston Globe Sports Section

  • Tom Brady's tale doesn't hold weight [Says sack Brady for Super Bowl if he cheated]

    01/23/2015 9:35:09 PM PST · 259 of 322
    Colofornian to Rebelbase; All
    Can’t wait for the Seahawks’ fans crowd signs:
    Brady plays with his balls
    Brady said his balls are perfect
    Brady, don’t touch our balls

    As imdb.com pointed out:

    The press conference itself had quotes primed for jokes. "It's not like I squeeze the football," Brady said. "I grip the football."
    Top Late-Night Jokes About Patriots 'Deflate Gate'

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/23/2015 9:31:31 PM PST · 3 of 112
    Colofornian to All
    The NFL says it has already collected video, electronic information and physical evidence -- and have hired forensic experts to see if foul play was a factor in Deflate-Gate. The league just announced it has hired Renaissance Associates -- which it describes as "an investigatory firm with sophisticated forensic expertise to assist in reviewing electronic and video information." The league has also tapped NFL Executive Vice President Jeff Pash and attorney Ted Wells to head » - TMZ Staff
    --NFL On Deflate-Gate -- We Have Video Evidence ... Experts Reviewing the Tape
  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

  • NFL adds all-pro lawyer to inquiry into Patriots

    01/23/2015 9:26:48 PM PST · 1 of 112
    Colofornian
    From the article:

    The NFL is upping the stakes in its probe of the New England Patriots and unleashing one of the country’s top lawyers and a high-powered investigative firm to uncover the truth behind a scandal that has cast a dark cloud over the team as they prepare for the Super Bowl. League officials broke their silence on the Deflategate scandal yesterday, announcing that high-powered white-collar crime lawyer Ted Wells will join NFL Executive Vice President Jeff Pash on the investigation into whether the Pats knowingly used under-inflated footballs in the American Football Conference championship game. “He is one of the premier lawyers in the United States, he has great credibility, he’s well-known in the field and his reputation is stellar,” said Larry Krantz of the New York law firm Krantz & Berman when asked about Wells. “He’s a very serious lawyer, his integrity is beyond reproach and this is certainly an indication that (the NFL) is taking the investigation very seriously.”

  • Tom Brady's tale doesn't hold weight [Says sack Brady for Super Bowl if he cheated]

    01/23/2015 6:25:50 PM PST · 205 of 322
    Colofornian to T. Rustin Noone

    (I suppose NEXT you will be using your “physics apologia” to try to convince Us that the Patriot sideline was 20 to 30 degrees colder than the Colts sideline)

  • Tom Brady's tale doesn't hold weight [Says sack Brady for Super Bowl if he cheated]

    01/23/2015 6:22:34 PM PST · 202 of 322
    Colofornian to T. Rustin Noone

    Except that if what u say is the case...many or most or almost all of the Colts balls would have had the same loss of inflation...we don’t find the nfl investigating the Colts for that...do we? (Or did that nuance of the game simply escape your attention?)

  • Tom Brady's tale doesn't hold weight [Says sack Brady for Super Bowl if he cheated]

    01/23/2015 5:35:41 PM PST · 178 of 322
    Colofornian to lepton

    Like I said in an earlier post...if psi rules are “trivial” as you state then just become an nfl rule libertarian and advocate that the nfl and bureaucratic refs just get out of psi management...and even ball size accountability...and just leave the entire process up to the qbs...the kickers...and the coaches...at least then you’d be consistent vs jumping in at this point as an apologist for cheaters

  • Tom Brady's tale doesn't hold weight [Says sack Brady for Super Bowl if he cheated]

    01/23/2015 5:31:29 PM PST · 175 of 322
    Colofornian to Hot Tabasco

    I think post #145 covers your lame apologetic...so please...don’t ever complain on fr again if a Democrat who gets “dead voters” and double voters if that candidate would have won handily anyway