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  • Scary Mormon Halloween Costumes, Ranked [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/30/2014 11:02:00 AM PDT · 22 of 30
    Colofornian to Elsie

    (Whoa!!! Where do we hide on that one comin’ down Republican Avenue???...And ya gotta have a medley of Jason/Friday the 13th/and the Halloween movie series background music properly at play)

  • Scary Mormon Halloween Costumes, Ranked [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/30/2014 10:59:59 AM PDT · 21 of 30
    Colofornian to T. P. Pole

    (Glad we can co-appreciate some lds humor together...wishing a wonderful Harvest season/All Hallow’s Eve/ensuing All Saints day to you & loved ones this week! May you every day continue to thank God for the spouse and kids and loved ones God has granted...giving Him glory for every detail!)

  • Scary Mormon Halloween Costumes, Ranked [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/30/2014 10:42:32 AM PDT · 19 of 30
    Colofornian to bigbob; Elsie; All
    Maybe just being respectful of other people’s religious beliefs?

    (If those mishies Elsie was referencing were so "respectful of other people's religious beliefs," then why were they openly proselytizing so many to change them [to Mormonism]?)

    And...btw...Mormons reference their missionary activity as indeed proselytizing...vs. evangelizing...

    IoW...their goal isn't simply to expose people to the Biblical Gospel...proclaim it...(the Good News)

    Their goal is to convert people to a church...to a system...to a "prophet" and then a series of "living prophets"...

    If they were to "respect" Christians who have their Biblical beliefs, sure, they could enter into dialogue...but that's not what Lds missionary training is all about.

    Pure proselytizing.

  • Scary Mormon Halloween Costumes, Ranked [The OTHER WORLD Series]

  • Scary Mormon Halloween Costumes, Ranked [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/30/2014 9:47:14 AM PDT · 1 of 30
    Colofornian
    ByCommonConsent is a Mormon blog site

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    To understand #10, ya gotta read:

    * The Truth About Mormon Myths [Mormon Bigfoot, White Horse Prophesy, & Nephites alive 2,000+ years] (See 'Bigfoot is Cain' sub-title)

    * Is Bigfoot traveling through Provo Canyon?

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    Re: #2..Ya gotta understand the source for this. It comes from Mormon-deemed "scriptures" the Pearl of Great Price...the Book of Abraham.

    You see, not only The primary focus of the Mormon church is on serving the dead! (See Lds "scriptures" Doctrine & Covenants 128:15; 138:27), but most of one of its "four standard works" -- its "scriptures" (Pearl of Great Price)
    -- is in reality supposedly "translated" from "papyri are ordinary Egyptian funeral texts, with possibly a few interesting side notes. For example, one of the Smith papyri is the 'Document of Breathing Made by Isis' and is the oldest known datable copy (pre-150 BCE).

    (The ISIS god of Egypt weaved its way into modern-day Mormonism!)

    Excerpt in context:

    Chicago—In 1835 a traveling curiosity peddler of Egyptian mummies arrived in the small town of Kirtland, Ohio. He caught the attention of Joseph Smith (1805-44), the controversial founder of the Mormon religion. Smith secured a large sum of money from his followers ($2,400, or $60,000 in today’s dollars) to purchase four Egyptian mummies with scrolls of papyri. Smith announced that he could do what no one else could do: translate the ancient hieroglyphics. Smith asserted that the papyri contained the writings of the biblical prophets Abraham and Joseph. He titled his translation of the papyri the “Book of Abraham.” Smith’s translation contained several images from the papyri and in 1851 was published as part of the Mormon scripture called “The Pearl of Great Price.” Now, for the first time, the surviving papyri have been translated into English in their entirety. In analyzing and translating the ancient texts, Robert K. Ritner, foremost American scholar of Egyptology, has determined that they were prepared for deceased men and women in Thebes during the Greco-Roman period. They have nothing to do with Abraham, Joseph, or a planet called Kolob, as Smith had claimed. “Except for those willfully blind,” writes Professor Ritner of the University of Chicago’s Oriental Institute, “the case is closed.” In his new book, The Joseph Smith Egyptian Papyri: A Complete Edition, he also accuses two scholars of Egyptology at Mormon-owned Brigham Young University of borrowing and distorting his own writings in trying to defend Smith’s interpretations as authentically translated Egyptian. Smith’s translation narrative tells of a young Abraham who is about to become a human sacrifice at the request of his father. It also tells of a human pre-mortal existence and teaches that the Egyptian pharaohs were cursed by God (leading to the Mormon priesthood restrictions on African Americans). It also established the Mormon theology for multiple gods. The Mormon Church restricts access to the original papyri, which it owns. Ritner gained access to high resolution scans through a third party. He concluded that the papyri are ordinary Egyptian funeral texts, with possibly a few interesting side notes. For example, one of the Smith papyri is the “Document of Breathing Made by Isis” and is the oldest known datable copy (pre-150 BCE). Otherwise, Ritner states, anyone investigating claims of ancient evidence for Smith’s translation should not “waste his time,” although he does admit “that the study of the Mormon period of Egyptomania is interesting by itself.”

    Source: Scholar Says Mormon Scripture Not an Egyptian Translation

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    As for #1, See: Ten Lies I Told as a Mormon Missionary

    And, to keep the missionary-Halloween connection intact, see: The Haunting of a Mormon Missionary in Ecuador [The OTHER World Series]

    And, see also what happened to 19th-century Lds missionaries:

    * Multinight poltergeist activity and a "terrible fury" in the 1840s to Lorenzo Snow, an eventual Mormon "prophet"...read last three paragraphs at: Seven Sub-Topical Samples Proving Mormonism's Occultic Origins [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    * In 1837, a man who was to later rank as the top Lds "apostle" (Orson Hyde) was demon-possessed: Discovering Lds Britain: Discovering Lds Preston - Satanic Attack

    * For more on Preston, England & the Lds missionaries -- also involving the man who was to become Brigham Young's right-hand man as one of the top three-ranking Lds leaders (Heber C. Kimball), see post #1 here: 40: Mormons, Demons, and Exorcisms [The OTHER World Series]

  • Zombies: The Specter of Materialism [The Mormon OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/30/2014 8:28:18 AM PDT · 12 of 12
    Colofornian to Jack Hammer
    All I get are glassy-eyed stares.

    (You haven't noticed any skin starting to peel off on any of them recently, have you?)

  • Zombies: The Specter of Materialism [The Mormon OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/30/2014 5:30:37 AM PDT · 1 of 12
    Colofornian
    From the blog: Given the fact that vampires and zombies represent two fears which have dominated the western psyche, I ask you: which is worse? Would you rather be a vampire, cursed to only walk at night, but still blessed with intelligence and emotion? Or instead a zombie, lacking all thinking or feeling other than an instinctive desire to eat? I'd choose to be a vampire, for it seems to me that eternal life is much better than slow decay, whatever the cost.

    (Uh...Yeah...that's the two choices I'd make sure I'd blog on, Mr. MormonMystic....do ya want to be a vampire...or rather a zombie...And, of course...in keeping with the Twilight series written by a fellow Mormon...you chose Vampire!)

    All: See: Mormon Vampires in the Garden of Eden [The OTHER WORLD series] for Mormon theological/cultural parallels in The Twilight series.

  • Seven Sub-Topical Samples Proving Mormonism's Occultic Origins [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/29/2014 8:07:51 PM PDT · 81 of 127
    Colofornian to Normandy; Elsie; aMorePerfectUnion; T. P. Pole; All
    I believe that Moroni was sent from God to Joseph Smith to reveal the Book of Mormon, just as were Elijah and Moses were sent to Jesus.

    #1...Joseph Smith didn't EVER seem to rely upon the socalled "gold plates" Moroni "delivered" to Smith...All of the accounts of early Mormons depict Smith peering into a hat & relying upon a socalled "urim" and "thummim" (read: rock) to "reveal" the Book of Mormon. The socalled Moronic "gold plates" were entirely irrelevant!!!

    #2 Elijah

    T.P. Pole tried a similar false parallel re: mentioning the transfiguration last OTHERWORLD Series on a couple of threads (2013)...

    Unlike the status of a socalled character named "Moroni" -a deceased supposedly resurrected man... Elijah never died...hence hardly qualifies under the heading as a similar comparison.

    #3...Moses

    In Matthew 17, we don't read of ANYTHING a transfigured Moses communicated to the disciples. Obviously his purpose there wasn't to communicate anything significant to them; his purpose was simply to glorify Jesus...and if he communicated with Jesus, that wasn't recorded.

    IoW, Moses had no special angelic-like "message" to the apostles.

  • Mormonism and Visitations from the Dead [The OTHER World Series: Paranormal encouraged by church]

    10/29/2014 7:53:34 PM PDT · 16 of 16
    Colofornian to T. P. Pole
    Elias

    #1...Elias (Elijah) never died...hence hardly qualifies under the heading of "necro"

    #2...Moses

    I'll do you one...make that two...better...:

    (a) Samuel by the witch/medium of Endor

    (b) The resurrected Jesus Himself...including to the 500 or so before He ascended; then to the apostle Paul on the Road; and then Jesus communicated to seven churches in Rev. 2 & 3

    So what's the difference then (if there is one)?

    Well, first of all Saul was judged/condemned...including for enlisting that medium...

    Secondly, we have no record of Jesus the man calling down Moses...Heavenly Father simply sent him (& Elijah)

    Jesus certainly didn't need to "consult" with anybody

  • Seven Sub-Topical Samples Proving Mormonism's Occultic Origins [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/29/2014 7:47:59 PM PDT · 80 of 127
    Colofornian to Normandy; aMorePerfectUnion; Elsie; All
    Addendum to end of my last post...

    Even Mormonism acknowledges that certain "revelations" are "of the devil." What's interesting is this quote...found in the Mormon church-owned Deseret News...concedes that SOME of the directives Mormons have been told to do by Smith "...are of the devil":

    ...Whitmer wrote that Hyrum Smith, Joseph's brother, suggested selling the copyright in Canada to raise money and that Hyrum \"persuaded Joseph to inquire of the Lord about it.\"According to Whitmer, Joseph used his seer stone \"and received a revelation that some of the brethren should go to Toronto, Canada, and that they would sell the copyright of the Book of Mormon.\"Oliver Cowdery, Joseph Knight, Hiram Page and Josiah Stowell were selected for the task to go to Canada.The brethren, however, failed to sell the copyright.Whitmer wrote that he remembered when Page and Cowdery returned: \"Well, we were all in great trouble; and we asked Joseph how it was that he had received a revelation from the Lord for some brethren to go to Toronto and sell the copy-right, and the brethren had utterly failed in their undertaking.\"Whitmer said Joseph \"enquired of the Lord about it\" and received a revelation that said, \"Some revelations are of God: some revelations are of man: and some revelations are of the devil.\"\

    Source: Newly found revelation of Joseph Smith

    IoW...Smith isn't trustworthy...Moroni wasn't...

    Deuteronomy 18 indicates that if a prophet speaks as a prophet even only once falsely, look out!

    19 I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. 20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.” 21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.

    How many times does it take to lie to be deemed a liar? (once)
    How many times does it take to murder to be deemed a murderer? (once)
    How many times does it take to proclaim a false prophecy to be deemed a false prophet? (once)

  • Seven Sub-Topical Samples Proving Mormonism's Occultic Origins [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/29/2014 7:29:08 PM PDT · 79 of 127
    Colofornian to Normandy; aMorePerfectUnion; Elsie; All
    I consider any messenger sent from God to be an angel, and Moroni, once a man on earth, to be one.

    Except you can't point to any "angel" specifically id'd as a "man" in the Bible, can you?

    Except you can't point to any "angel" specifically id'd as a "man" in the Book of Mormon in the Bible, can you? (iow...Moroni or any other Book of Mormon character isn't id'd as an "angel" there)

    And if that's important doctrinally, why is that nowhere to be found in those sources?

    Normandy...we cannot alwas simply take what an "angel" says at face value; we need to be "noble" like the Bereans were:

    11 Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. (Acts 17:11)

    We have to examine the claims of any "latterday" "gospel" vs. previous revelations re: the Biblical Gospel. If you don't, you fail to be "noble" (like the Bereans)

    Hence, Paul says that if a new "angel" on the block begins preaching amiss...a "new" "gospel"...that "angel" is to be cursed!!!!

    6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse! (Galatians one:six to nine)

  • Seven Sub-Topical Samples Proving Mormonism's Occultic Origins [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/29/2014 3:41:52 PM PDT · 70 of 127
    Colofornian to laotzu

    Are you proudly representing Christ by bashing me by consistently referencing me as a basher? (If your primary operative ethic on fr is not to bash...then perhaps you may want to consider being a bit more tolerant of those you don’t see eye to eye...iow...set an example)

  • Seven Sub-Topical Samples Proving Mormonism's Occultic Origins [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/29/2014 10:55:12 AM PDT · 61 of 127
    Colofornian to laotzu; All
    Bashing and dividing Christians is satan's work.

    Often, yes.

    Often, no.

    Kind of all depends on the circumstances.

    Examples of "often, no" (Unless you plan on lecturing the apostles John & Paul when you get to heaven):

    * 9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. 11 Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work. (2 John 9 to 11)

    * 3 For my part, even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. As one who is present with you in this way, I have already passed judgment in the name of our Lord Jesus on the one who has been doing this. 4 So when you are assembled and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, 5 hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord. (1 Corinthians five: three to five)

    Example of "often, yes":

    * 9 I wrote to the church, but Diotrephes, who loves to be first, will not welcome us. 10 So when I come, I will call attention to what he is doing, spreading malicious nonsense about us. Not satisfied with that, he even refuses to welcome other believers. He also stops those who want to do so and puts them out of the church. (3 John 9 to 10)

    The key in the above is to discerningly pinpoint who is actually causing the division? Who are the real provocateurs?

    Diotrephes spread false rumors, refused to welcome other believers, and put other welcomers out the church.

    The guy in the Corinthian church engaging in sexual behavior became the divider once he flaunted his sexual sin before the whole church. (Paul wasn't the divider for wanting to have him ex-communicated)

    And in the case of 2 John, it was the heretics who caused the division, even tho they didn't want to be split away from the Christian church.

    They insisted they be accepted as is, heresy and all.

    Sorry, your carte-blanche attempt to treat all circumstances as the same doesn't wash. Besides, are you so obtuse that you don't even recognize 'tis Mormonism that from the get-go labeled 100% of the Christian church as "apostates," 100% creedally abominable, and as having professions of faith as 100% corrupt? (Note all of the "all" words in the Mormon "scriptures" of the First Vision...Joseph Smith History - 1 - in the Pearl of Great Price)

    Bashing and dividing Christians is satan's work.

    Does that include bashing Christians as possible "cross-dressers"?

    Does that include bashing Christians who you think are engaging in "satan's work" by your labeling of them as "bashers" and "dividers?"

  • Seven Sub-Topical Samples Proving Mormonism's Occultic Origins [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/29/2014 9:19:00 AM PDT · 50 of 127
    Colofornian to laotzu; Elsie; All
    Lighten up Frances. There was no attack, only sincere questions.

    (Oh, yes, how could I have possibly missed such obvious "sincerity." Of course, painting complete-stranger FREEPERS as "cross-dressers" is always born of sincerity, not to mention Christlike, eh?)

  • Seven Sub-Topical Samples Proving Mormonism's Occultic Origins [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/29/2014 9:10:35 AM PDT · 49 of 127
    Colofornian to Normandy; Elsie; All
    As far as PEOPLE coming back from the dead...

    One more note...perhaps to "ALL" as much, if not more, as you personally, Normandy.

    I at least want to commend you Normandy for highlighting a key aspect of infrequently discussed Mormon doctrine: That, yes, indeed: Mormon theology deems Moroni as one of the class of "people"...a person.

    Now why is that significant in my eyes?

    Well, unless you've researched Mormonism indepth...do you know how hard it can be to find Lds leaders who emphasize Moroni the ghost appearing in the shadows to one man...versus the gobs & gobs & gobs of Mormon docs describing Moroni as an "angel?"

    ALL: You, see in Mormonism, Moroni is both. He is both...
    ... a resurrected being in heaven (or near Kolob or wherever);
    he is also that "personage" who appeared to Joseph Smith ... whom I reference as such as a "ghost." And...in that "role" he is also deemed an "angel." And not only in the classical sense that "angel" = "messenger" but is really an "angel."

    So, when I found a quote like Lds "apostle" Mark Petersen from sixtytwo yrs ago given at THE General Conference of Mormons for that Spring...one that acknowledged Moroni being a personage who came back from the dead..." that is worth highlighting.

    Exactly why again...why beyond pointing to some mere trivial nuance in Mormon theology???

    Here's why:

    Reason #1

    When we turn to Joseph Smith's personal polygamy apologetic to his first wife Emma ... one he wrote well AFTER the polygamous fact to try to get Emma to submit to his sleeping around... he included these four verses...please note the highlighted portions:

    15 Therefore, if a MAN marry him a wife in the world, and he marry her not by me nor by my word, and he covenant with her so long as he is in the world and she with him, their covenant and marriage are not of force when they are dead, and when they are out of the world; therefore, they are not bound by any law when they are out of the world. 16 Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in marriage; but are appointed angels in heaven, which angels are ministering servants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory. 17 For THESE ANGELS DID NOT ABIDE MY LAW; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are angels of God forever and ever. (d&c 132:fifteen to eighteen)

    Did you all catch v. sixteen's highlight? Smith is referencing beings...angelic beings...who "did NOT abide my law."

    Question: What do Christians call angelic beings who failed to abide God's law??? Yup. That's right! Demons!!!

    Yet...Joseph Smith says the spiritual schematic for the Mormon gods is that they are indeed served by these angelic beings (read demons) who "failed to abide" God's law!!!

    (I think when God sovereignly allowed spiritual competition as found in the Book of Mormon, he made the demons insert a few "truth in advertising" clauses imbedded into the Mormon "scriptures")

    So...Guess what? Moroni is an angelic being of this camp of angelic beings who failed to abide God's law! A demon of demons!

    And, btw, leave it up to demons to wind up playing down to the hilt a failure to "abide" God's law...thinking they can somehow continue to serve eternally as servants of the divine! D&C 132 has demonic hands written all over it!!!

    Reason #2

    My personal belief after studying paranormal activity indepth is that most socalled appearances of "ghosts" are merely demons in disguise. The fact that Samuel's spirit was brought up in the Old Testament means I don't believe anybody can speak with certainty on this subject to apply to all cases...

    Yet if Mormons believe that Moroni is both a ghostly (resurrected) figure and an angel, why is that of import?

    Simply this: There's a motto in consumer buying: "Buyer, beware."

    Most of the world will be a bit (or a LOT, depending upon where you are culturally) more skeptical of messages portending to come from ghosts.

    Historically, people have been more open to receiving messages from angels ... both for better (biblical angels of God), or worse (occultism at large).

    So when the Mormon PR machine ramped up, 'twas much easier for the Mormon church to literally TRUMPET Moroni as his "angelic" side...
    ...vs. Moroni the suspected ghost...
    ...or even the weird Mormon theology of Mormon the Book of Mormon prophet who died who resurrected who became an eventual angel. (Sounds like pop "angelogy" like "It's a Wonderful Life" of angels getting wings after having been men on earth)

    On that latter note, it seems always the cults that "weirdify" angels. JWs say Jesus was Michael the Archangel who became a man who became God's son...becoming a "sort of" quasi demigod...but who isn't Jehovah God.

    Mormons say men were...
    ...eternal intelligences (D&C 93)
    ...who then underwent a birth in the beyond as "spirits"
    ...who then were transferred to this earth to become men and women
    ...and then some become gods (married temple Mormons);
    ...and some become angels;
    ...and others remain men and women.

    And the above description, btw, includes the Mormon Jesus. Like the JW God, the Mormon Jesus doesn't become God Himself...but his spiritual evolution in Mormon eyes was the same up to "son of God" status as Lucifer's...hence the first part of this occultic article. But Lds do think He is the "Jehovah" of the OT.

  • Seven Sub-Topical Samples Proving Mormonism's Occultic Origins [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/29/2014 8:15:26 AM PDT · 46 of 127
    Colofornian to laotzu; Elsie
    I have figured out what is odd about that expression. It is something one man says to another. Are you really a man disguised as a girl, Elsie? Are you a FreeRepublic cross-dresser?

    More personal attacks from the one who likes to attack what they deem as "Christian bashing" of cultists they openly defend and sanction, eh?

    I don't know Elsie other than what we've exchanged on FR...

    ...but I always figured "Elsie" was simply another way of sayin' "L.C."

    But...hey...if you want to use his screen name as an open attack on his manhood...and the mods think that's within bounds, I'll trust their judgment on this one.

    And as for trusting you...I think just as Jesus railed on the church of Pergamum in Revelation 2 for tolerating false doctrines, I think that divine scolding seemingly can be applied to many in today's Christendom...

    14 Nevertheless, I have a few things against you: There are some among you who hold to the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to entice the Israelites to sin so that they ate food sacrificed to idols and committed sexual immorality. 15 Likewise, you also have those who hold to the teaching of the Nicolaitans. 16 Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth...20 Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols. 21 I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling. 22 So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. 23 I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds. (Rev. 2:14-16, 20-22

  • Seven Sub-Topical Samples Proving Mormonism's Occultic Origins [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/29/2014 7:28:30 AM PDT · 42 of 127
    Colofornian to Normandy
    ...a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me...

    I've had thorns in my flesh. They are all irksome...some more than others. Some... like slivers... can lead to infections. Problematic. But not usually debilitating. Even if not removed...yes...A painful reminder; yes, each time you pick up a shovel or hoe or rake to continuing laboring. But on you labor.

    And that's all they are. Irksome. Annoyances.

    Not knockdown multinight poltergeist activity like the account I shared involving Lds missionary (tobe a 'prophet') Lorenzo Snow...

    Not the "terrible fury" I in the description re: Snow.

    A "thorn in the flesh" doesn't seem to match the spirits impelling Lds general authority Hugh B. Brown to "cease to be".

    And...speaking of Lorenzo Snow...what spirit got ahold of him to wind up later coining the infamous heretical Mormon couplet...?

    "As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become."
    As God Is Man May Be?

    Btw, The satanic messenger you cite wasn't the only one to annoy or irk Paul:

    Once when we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a female slave who had a spirit by which she predicted the future. She earned a great deal of money for her owners by fortune-telling. 17She followed Paul and the rest of us, shouting, “These men are servants of the Most High God, who are telling you the way to be saved.” 18She kept this up for many days. Finally Paul became so annoyed that he turned around and said to the spirit, “In the name of Jesus Christ I command you to come out of her!” At that moment the spirit left her. (Acts sixteen, vv. sixteen to eighteen)

    The difference, it seems, is that Paul put an end to it in Acts sixteen...yet despite ongoing prayers to be relieved of the thorn, whatever it was, it apparently remained.

  • Seven Sub-Topical Samples Proving Mormonism's Occultic Origins [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/29/2014 7:03:51 AM PDT · 41 of 127
    Colofornian to Normandy; Elsie; All
    A strange way to try and ‘expose’ Mormonism, when what is mentioned here is found in the Bible...As far as people coming back from the dead... “The graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.” (Matthew 27:52-53) I wouldn’t consider that occult — it’s part of the miraculous power of the resurrection.

    We do lack some specifics...yet the assumption I think all Bible interpreters have is that those resurrected that you cite were ones who followed the footsteps of Lazarus, who Jesus raised in John 11. Lazarus didn't walk out of the grave only to shun his family and bounce to and fro Kolob. Right?

    He was resurrected unto an earthly life to finish the earthly life God gave.

    Since you, Normandy, are the one now introducing Matt 27 as a "parallel," you would have a hard time attempting to Biblically conclude that those resurrected in Matt. 27 elected only to EACH appear to ONLY one man and then charter a flight on AirKolob, ne'er to be seen again! And actually, Matt 27 contradicts the appearing to a parallel "one man scenario" that we see in Moroni. Right?

    We ARE indeed given a few key details by Matthew: Matthew CLEARLY elaborates that those resurrected "went into the holy city" and "appeared to MANY".

    Bottom line here...what you seemingly fail to grasp is that when & where God miraculously resurrects someone, they
    (1) reabsorb back into the same community;
    (2) since Lazarus has not been seen walking around here of late, they physically die again yet spiritually NEVER die (John 11);
    and (3) they appear to MANY simultaneously and thoroughly and are not fleetingly hidden...tucked away.

    The very word "occult" simply means "hidden" (Latin). IoW, "occult" is referenced as hidden initiatives not spelled out to the proselyted recruit.

    Mormon Factoid: Moroni has ALWAYS been a "shadow" personage. A hidden tuckedaway "personage."

    This is all in stark contrast to...
    ...the Lazarus who was out in the open...
    ...versus the people in Matthew 27 who came out into the open in the holy city, appearing to many...
    ...versus Jesus who came out into the open...appearing even to five hundred+ at a single time!!!! see 1 Corinthians fifteen, v. six below...

    Moroni is this fleeting tuckedaway hidden "personage" who appears now & again to ONE man...wasn't reabsorbed back into earth...and didn't appear to MANY. Ghostly activity is fleeting. Most Often appearing to one person at a time.

    As far as people coming back from the dead, we know that Jesus did — and also after his resurrection:

    The "many" re: simultaneous appearing applies here as well. When Jesus was resurrected, He appeared to a GROUP of disciples (John 20:19to 22) & then again to His disciples (John 20:24ff) and then 1 Cor. fifteen , verse six tells us ...
    After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.

    Jesus also ate fish with His disciples ... John 21... I think it's fairly safe to rule Him out as a mere "spirit" or phantom of the night, don't you? (Unless you want to move over to the Jehovah's Witnesses, who claim Jesus was only resurrected spiritually and not bodily)

    So there ya go...let me know when Moroni pops up to five hundred people at one time...versus backroom sheltered shenanigans.

    ****************************

    Oh...and btw...If the Book of Mormon & D&C 7 is right...and if the apostle John and the Nephite disciples are all still walking the earth and never died...please tell us why Moroni had to either pop up or at least pop up alone to JoeySmith anyway?

    Didn't the Mormon gods ALREADY have their authoritative "general authorities" STILL ON earth???

    Did this group somehow apostatize too?

    How could an apostasy be "complete" or "universal" as your prophets and gen authorities have consistently claimed with a high and mighty verbal edict...if these men NEVER died?

    Did the Mormon gods remove their authority?

    Did the Mormon Jesus "fail" in His mission to train, equip, raise up, set apart these men for lifetime leadership?

    So your Moroni batted 1.000 in establishing a leader, yet the Mormon Jesus batted .000 as ALL of His Jewish and Central/South American apostles all eventually went to the wayside?

    Do you realize how dishonoring it is when you and Mormons promote a Smith who proclaimed the following?

    Come on! ye prosecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on the top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days
    page 409
    of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.

    {Obviously your Mormon leadership thought it was "edifying" to include this Smith quote in your church's history as I have this quote on my bookshelf as part of the 7volume Mormon "History of the Church" that BH Roberts and other Lds leaders put together}

    Normandy I gotta say it...thinking of this Smith utterance: How appauling! You Mormons need to repent for elevating this man above Jesus!!! Repent publicly! Openly!

  • Seven Sub-Topical Samples Proving Mormonism's Occultic Origins [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/29/2014 6:08:49 AM PDT · 38 of 127
    Colofornian to Normandy; All
    There are plenty of episodes mentioned in the New Testament where evil spirits tormented various people, and Jesus cast them out.

    And you used an apt word ...tormented

    The tormented were not...at least at the time...people who were themselves possessed by the Holy Spirit as temples of the Holy Spirit (Paul's reference to true Christians in 1 Cor; 2 Cor.)

    True Christ ones can't be possessed by both the Holy Spirit and an evil spirit simultaneously

    Was the apostle Paul consistently annoyed by a possessed person in the book of Acts? Yes...but mere annoyance who Paul cast out with authority was not the same as either being spiritually tormented or possessed. And Paul exercised complete spiritual authority there

    As far as I can read in the OT, Job was physically struck by Satan...yet Job had no benefit of the Holy Spirit indwelling him in an ongoing way...certainly until Christ came and died for us, when the Holy Spirit came upon some in OT times it wasn't a permanent ongoing "residency"...

  • Seven Sub-Topical Samples Proving Mormonism's Occultic Origins [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/28/2014 9:26:04 PM PDT · 27 of 127
    Colofornian to JAKraig; All
    To Mormons a just God would not let people who have never heard the word of God be sentenced to Hell for eternity. This is one thing I find fascinating about the Mormon religion. I do believe in life after death, I haven’t a clue what it is though. While I don’t know what it is I think the way the Mormons see it looks pretty interesting. Nobody else talks much about it, it is either Heaven or Hell and if you don’t confess Jesus Christ as Savior then it is Hell. I think the Mormon theology offers a little hope to those who have never heard the name of Jesus Christ. If God is our Father and He does love us then I think He would provide a way of salvation to all His children and not depend on the luck of the draw.

    Ah, JA, I highlighted the phrase above which contained the most irony in the context of what you stated. Why does it qualify as such?

    Simple...you attempt to make a case for universal salvation in which God the Father would somehow ensure His children find His way back into His presence, which you mistakenly equate to what Mormonism teaches!

    They teach anything but that!

    My proof? From Mormonism's own "scriptures" & general authorities layout of Mormon doctrine?

    Well, two years ago I ran a vanity entitled, THE TOP TEN MOST SURPRISING 'MORMON TEACHINGS' ABOUT MORMON HEAVEN and AFTER-LIFE [Vanity]

    So what, JA, do ya think qualified as #1 on that list??? (Perhaps you need to have a convo with your wife's bishop about these quotes below, eh?)

    1. Mormon theology about heaven says it's a place -- at least for the 99% of people who would live there -- where Christians don't get to live with Heavenly Father forever!!!!! When Mormons talk about eternal life & exaltation, they're not just talking about "heaven" What's the "rest of the story"? * Mormons believe that only their “Melchizedek priests” (D&C 76:57) are the ones eligible for “dwell[ing] in the presence of God and his Christ forever and ever.” (D&C 76:62) In the Mormon view of heaven, ONLY those entering into Mormon "covenants" and obeying fully Mormon laws get to live forever in God's presence: * Eternal life is living with Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ in the celestial kingdom. This blessing--which is also called exaltation--comes only to those who keep the commandments and make the necessary covenants (Source: Preparing for Exaltation Teacher's Manual, p. 4, 1998) * ”Immortality is to live forever as a resurrected being. Through the Atonement of Jesus Christ, everyone will receive this gift. Eternal life, or exaltation, is to inherit a place in the highest degree of the celestial kingdom, where we will live in God’s presence and continue as families.” (same source, p. 52) * “’Eternal life’ is a higher state than immortality alone and means to live forever in a resurrected condition in the presence of God, and to become like God…Eternal life is exaltation into the type and quality of life that God lives. Receiving eternal life is conditional, predicated upon obedience to the fullness of gospel law and ordinances (D&C 29:43-44; 130:20-21). It requires voluntary obedience to all of the ordinances and principles of the gospel…continuing through…the covenants of the Endowment and marriage in the temple…” (Encyclopedia of Mormonism, 2:677-678)

    So do you comprehend what I'm saying...?

    You commend Mormonism for somehow finding a way for all to be reunited with Heavenly Father -- ALL as Mormonism teaches that...
    ...nobody EXCEPT MARRIED temple Mormons who keep ALL of the covenants & commandments of Mormonism will get to live forever in Heavenly Father's presence!

    Oh, sure the "middle degree of glory" people can live forever with the Mormon Jesus. But the lower degree of glory...most of the people you are likely referencing with your comments above, JA, are actually people who per Mormonism wouldn't get to live forever with either Heavenly Father or Jesus!!!!

    Even the most faithful Mormons...if they ain't married...or the most faithful non-Mormon Christians...are, per Mormonism (see chart above0 excluded from the Mormon Father's presence forever!!!! (And you deem that heaven??? Really?)

    Sorry, JA, but if you fail to be reconciled to HEAVENLY FATHER & JESUS -- that is not "Heaven" -- no matter how much Mormon lore says so!!!

  • Demonic and Ungodly Names in the Book of Mormon 3 [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/28/2014 8:58:49 PM PDT · 67 of 77
    Colofornian to T. P. Pole; All
    Sometimes the mis-statements are made in error, or are presented as opinion. For example, up-thread you said ‘tithe — what Lds reference as the “Law of consecration”’ Technically that is not true. I trust you were not intentionally lying, but that you were copying something that had that error already in it. And in the end, it really doesn’t change the point you were trying to make - that there are a lot of “rules” in Mormonism.

    T.P. PLEASE take note of ALL of the Lds "scriptures" & Lds leaders comments that follow re: tithing. (And whoever else reads, read, mark, learn, digest, etc. how a false obfuscation goes on here...I don't know if it's all intentional or not...I just have a tough time believing that somebody like T.P. would be as unaware of these Mormonosities as what follows):

    1

    When I go to my trusty 1977 Deseret Book Co. A Topical Guide to the Scriptures of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints"...for its entry on "tithing" (p. 459), I find 16 Biblical references that Mormon leaders have made re: this word/subject...plus two from the Book of Mormon (Alma 13:15 and 3 Nephi 24:8 re: "robbing" God in "tithes and offerings") + four verses in the Lds "scriptures" of Doctrine & Covenants:
    * for he that is tithed shall not be burned at his... (D&C 64:23) Lds.org cites D&C 64:23 thusly: “In the present dispensation, the law of tithing was revived, and the keeping of that law is one of the FIRST duties of the Latter-day Saints. September 11, 1831, about eighteen months after the organization of the church, the Lord, through Joseph, the Seer, made this important declaration. Speaking after the manner of the Lord, he called ‘today,’ from the giving of the revelation until the coming of the Son of Man, and said, ‘Verily, it is a day of sacrifice, and a day for the tithing of my people; for he that is tithed shall not be burned at His coming. For after today cometh the burning,’ that is, at the coming of the Son of Man, ‘for verily I say, tomorrow’ – that is, at the Lord’s coming – ‘all the proud and they that do wickedly shall be as stubble; and I will burn them up, for I am the Lord of Hosts.” (D&C 64:23, 24.)

    Are you now claiming you didn't know T.P. that tithing was a 'first duty' of a Latter-day Saint, per Lds.org???


    * 1 Verily, thus saith the Lord, I require all their surplus property to be put into the hands of the bishop of my church in Zion, 2 For the building of mine house, and for the laying of the foundation of Zion and for the priesthood, and for the debts of the Presidency of my Church. 3 And this shall be the beginning of the tithing of my people. 4 And after that, those who have thus been tithed shall pay one-tenth of all their interest annually; and this shall be a standing law unto them forever, for my holy priesthood, saith the Lord. 5 Verily I say unto you, it shall come to pass that all those who gather unto the land of Zion shall be tithed of their surplus properties, and shall observe this law, or they shall not be found worthy to abide among you. (D&C 119:1-5)

    Are you seriously unaware of these two D&C passages, T.P.?

    2

    T.P....before I stated in post #5 -- what you somehow objected to above -- re: (2) You HAVE TO tithe -- what Lds reference as the "Law of consecration"...I made-sure I did almost a whole day's research several years ago before elaborating. How did I accomplish that?

    I spent a goodly amount of time reviewing the word "laws" and dozens & dozens of contexts as how that word was contextualized in various articles at Lds.org. My conclusion? If you look at Lds.org like I did -- in fact, EVERY single entry -- they have for carrying out their various add-on "Laws" -- guess what two add-on "laws" get the most mentions by Lds, Inc?

    It's near a tie:
    (1) The Law of Tithing (yes, also known as the Law of Consecration)
    (2) The Law of Chastity

    T.P. Are you now claiming that Lds.org isn't very "authoritative" for you or other Mormons?

    3

    Yes T.P. Lds 'prophet' Joseph Fielding Smith equated 'the Law of Consecration' as 'the law of tithing'

    4

    * Joseph Fielding Smith states: “In the stead of this higher law [the law of consecration], the Lord gave to the Saints a schoolmaster, as he did ancient Israel to teach them and bring them to the fulness of the gospel of Christ. This is the law of tithing.

    * “The law of tithing, as embodied in the revelations referred to, [in Sec. 119], is an immutable decree of Jehovah to His people, and admits of no evasion by those who would enjoy the blessings of the faithful on the land of Zion, or be classed among the righteous, and avoid the burning at the coming of our Lord.” (Principles of the Gospel, pp. 174-177.)

    (T.P. "immutable = unchanging)

    5 Other Lds 'prophets' & 'apostles'

    * Other revealed doctrines at the root of our religion include the Creation, the Resurrection, the law of tithing, prayer, and the consummate blessings of the temple. (Russell Nelson, official Lds church publication Liahona May 2004)

    This Mormon link is now inactive...but listed "The Law of Tithing" as a key Mormon commandment...among...
    The Commandments
    Obedience to God's Commandments
    Pray Often
    Study the Scriptures
    Keep the Sabbath Day Holy
    Baptism and Confirmation
    Follow the Prophet
    Live the Law of Chastity
    Obey the Word of Wisdom
    Live the Law of Tithing
    Observe the Law of the Fast
    Obey and Honor the Law

    * Law of consecration or The Law of Tithing: Definition: “The law of tithing is the law of revenue for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.” (Teachings of the President of the Church: Joseph F. Smith) Joseph F. Smith on law of tithing

    * Why Instituted
    We know of no better statement as to why the Lord revealed the law of tithing than that made by President Joseph F. Smith at the general conference of the Church in April, 1900. “Why the Law of Tithing Was Instituted – The Lord revealed to his people in the incipiency of his work a law which was more perfect than the law of tithing. It comprehended larger things, greater power, and a more speedy accomplishment of the purposes of the Lord. But the people were unprepared to live by it, and the Lord, out of mercy to the people, suspended the more perfect law [the law of consecration and stewardship], and gave the law of tithing, in order that there might be means in the storehouse of the Lord for the carrying out of the purposes he had in view; for the gathering of the poor, for the spreading of the gospel to the nations of the earth, for the maintenance of those who were required to give their constant attention, day in and day out, to the work of the Lord, and for whom it was necessary to make some provision. Without this law these things could not be done, neither could temples be built and maintained, nor the poor fed and clothed. Therefore the law of tithing is necessary for the Church, so much so that the Lord has laid great stress upon it.” (Lds "prophet" Joseph F. Smith, Gospel Doctrine, p. 282.)

    * “The law of tithing, is a test by which the people as individuals shall be proved. Any man who fails to observe this principle shall be known as a man who is indifferent to the welfare of Zion, who neglects his duty as a member of the church, and who does nothing toward the accomplishment of the temporal advancement of the kingdom of God. He contributes nothing, either, towards spreading the gospel to the nations of the earth, and he neglects to do that which would entitle him to receive the blessings and ordinances of the gospel.” (Lds "prophet" Joseph F. Smith, Gospel Doctrine, p. 283.) ….

    * Prosperity Comes to Those Who Obey the Law
    “The law of financial prosperity to the Latter-day Saints, under covenant with God, is to be an honest tithe payer, and not to rob the Lord in tithes and offerings. Prosperity comes to those who observe the law of tithing. When I say prosperity I am not thinking of it in terms of dollars and cents alone, although as a rule the Latter-day Saints who are the best tithe payers are the most prosperous men, financially. But what I call as real prosperity, as the one thing of all others that is of great value to every man and woman living, is the growth in a knowledge of God, and in a testimony, and in the power to live the gospel and to inspire our families to do the same.” (Lds "prophet" Heber J. Grant, Gospel Standards, p. 58.)

    (There's MANY other references contained in Lds.org...the above should suffice)

  • Demonic and Ungodly Names in the Book of Mormon 3 [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/28/2014 12:45:50 PM PDT · 62 of 77
    Colofornian to T. P. Pole; All

    Anybody looking at the linked chart I provided last post about lds “prophets” and first presidents referencing Smith as being the heavenly kingdom “passport” or “consenter” or kingDom “certificate” provider or as the absolute one we need to confess alongside Jesus would be quite bewildered if you had been there during any of those public statements when they were made had you said to each leader...”well what you are claiming is not ‘technically true’”...you see you must think you can get away with making this an issue about me and my alleged misinterpretation...when anybody taking these statements at face value...in context and even not if these words are to carry basic straightforward meaning...can see for themselves what these leaders claimed about smith...throw thsee leaders under the bus if you must...stop blaming me for their having been historically uttered

  • Demonic and Ungodly Names in the Book of Mormon 3 [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/28/2014 10:54:44 AM PDT · 61 of 77
    Colofornian to T. P. Pole; All
    Other times things are misrepresented or stated out of context, sometimes it appears intentionally, sometimes in error. For example, the claim that Joseph Smith is who approves our admittance into heaven. Again, technically that is not true, but explaining that completely would take pages. In short, we feel the leaders of each dispensation will testify as to what law was binding at that time (for example, sacrificing animals versus faith/baptism). That doesn’t mean that Moses or Joseph Smith will judge us or admit us to heaven. Christ still judges us. Like I said, it would take pages to explain that well. I also recognize that these misstatements or misrepresentations happen on both sides of the discussion. And I trust that most of these are unintentional or innocent. But there are some that clearly repeat falsehoods, even when corrected.

    You know..T.P. if you to a middle chart at a link...you can find over a dozen Mormon authoritative references to this: Mormon Tabernacle Choir conductor: 'Praise to the Man'...hymn praises Joseph Smith [Smithmas vanity]

    I find it rather difficult to believe...that had you lived in SLC circa pre civil war & early civil war times ... you would tell a certain tabernacle speaker ... nope you are statin a falsity upon sayin...: no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith. From the day that the Priesthood was taken from the earth to the winding-up scene of all things, every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are—I with you and you with me. I cannot go there without his consent. He holds the keys of that kingdom for the last dispensation—the keys to rule in the spirit world;

    Or...1974...as deseret book co...owned by ldsism...said: Deseret Book Co. publishes a book of discourses and writings of one of its top three hierarchists from the 19th century, George Q. Cannon, who announces: "If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]" (Lds "apostle" George Q. Cannon) Editor Jerreld L. Newquist, Gospel Truth: Discourses and Writings of President George Q. Cannon, Vol. 1, p. 255 Deseret Book Co.

  • Demonic and Ungodly Names in the Book of Mormon 3 [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/28/2014 10:27:19 AM PDT · 60 of 77
    Colofornian to T. P. Pole
    Sometimes the mis-statements are made in error, or are presented as opinion. For example, up-thread you said ‘tithe — what Lds reference as the “Law of consecration”’ Technically that is not true. I trust you were not intentionally lying, but that you were copying something that had that error already in it. And in the end, it really doesn’t change the point you were trying to make - that there are a lot of “rules” in Mormonism. Other times things are misrepresented or stated out of context, sometimes it appears intentionally, sometimes in error. For example, the claim that Joseph Smith is who approves our admittance into heaven. Again, technically that is not true, but explaining that completely would take pages. In short, we feel the leaders of each dispensation will testify as to what law was binding at that time (for example, sacrificing animals versus faith/baptism). That doesn’t mean that Moses or Joseph Smith will judge us or admit us to heaven. Christ still judges us. Like I said, it would take pages to explain that well. I also recognize that these misstatements or misrepresentations happen on both sides of the discussion.

    Ironic...that in the name of attempting to call out mischaraterizations on my part, you wind up engaging in misrepresentations yourself.

    Example: You mention multi-tasking. It doesn’t take much to look at the profiles of some of the posters here to see that nearly 100% of their posts are on anti-Mormonism threads. One can start to understand why some folks would use words like “obsessed” to describe them. Certainly there is little evidence that these 100%ers give any thought to anything outside of Mormonism. Maybe they do in their personal life, but they don’t show any sign of that here.

    Just earlier this month, posted three Islamic threads:
    * Is Islam a destructive force in the world? [O'Reilly] (Oct.7, 2014)
    * Professor at Pontifical University of the Holy Cross in Rome-Islamic State not un-Islamic model is.. (Oct. 7, 2014
    * (a third early October one was taken down by a mod...probably for a good reason...perhaps it was the source or the way I excerpted it)

    And yet you implied that I don't take on both Islam & Mormonism.

    Obviously, I'm not go to the mat posting Islamic threads on the FR site...I mean...c'mon...how many FR Muslims are there, after all?

    As for "misrepresentations" on both sides...I at least attempt not to misrepresent what other FReepers have said.

    Based on your post above, I don't believe you can now make the same claim.

    If people are off-base to an nth degree about some "ism," obviously we all allow a slim margin of error.

    When you start making your misrepresentations personal ones, I don't think that should stand as is without revisitation. I think you need to take a step back. And consider apologizing.

  • Film on LGBT Mormons to screen at BYU

    10/28/2014 9:42:42 AM PDT · 27 of 47
    Colofornian to All

    (A “POLYgamy PRIDE and faith” docu-emo presentation would certainly help properly “sensitize” Mormon freshmen coeds to the plight and isolation and insulation and stereotyping accorded these old geezers...perhaps they could “find a way” to help them out...given that 1 or 2 ain’t enough...e-haremny just doesn’t cut it when there’s so much competition for the same girls in these outlying areas)

  • Film on LGBT Mormons to screen at BYU

    10/28/2014 9:31:46 AM PDT · 26 of 47
    Colofornian to All; Elsie

    Well...I guess byu will make these kind of docudramas a staple series...next will be “polygamy pride and faith” where they present old Mormon fundamentalist geezers who “struggle” with their “affinity” for young teen virgins...

  • Film on LGBT Mormons to screen at BYU

    10/28/2014 8:32:46 AM PDT · 14 of 47
    Colofornian to teppe; cloudmountain; All
    Since the Mormons believe that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers, they can’t even call themselves CHRISTIANS. cloudmountain, post #8

    (Teppe to CM): I’m not sure that you can even be called Christian for your dishonest attempt to defame. 1/2010...

    REXBURG -- A top LDS religious leader gave a rare unscripted fireside to Brigham Young University-Idaho students Saturday. Elder M. Russell Ballard, a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, focused much of his remarks on how the LDS Church is viewed by nonmembers and the media. He taught students about conveying the message of the LDS faith. Ballard spoke candidly about experiences with the national news media, specifically touching on his experiences during former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's presidential campaign. Romney is LDS. The apostle talked about the challenge of defending and conveying LDS beliefs in a way that could be understood by people not affiliated with the church. "You remember Mr. (Mike) Huckabee (who was also vying to be the Republican candidate for president), who among other things said that Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil were brothers?" Ballard asked students. "Remember that? It went all over the media. "Well they are!" Ballard exclaimed to a laughing student body. Ballard speaks on Mormons in the media

  • Film on LGBT Mormons to screen at BYU

    10/28/2014 5:28:11 AM PDT · 1 of 47
    Colofornian
    From the article: The Department of Theatre and Media Arts is releasing the first public screening of the student film “Pride and Faith” on Oct. 24. The documentary, written and directed by BYU alumnus Scott Raia, explores the complex lives of two LGBT students as they reconcile their identity and faith.

    (There ya go...gay "pride" being celebrated at BYU!)

  • Seven Sub-Topical Samples Proving Mormonism's Occultic Origins [The OTHER WORLD Series]

    10/28/2014 5:23:04 AM PDT · 1 of 127
    Colofornian
    The 'Seven' Sub-Topical Samples Proving Mormonism's Occultic Origins:

    1. The Mormon 10th 'prophet' claimed "Lucifer was one of us" as a cadre of pre-mortal, pre-world spirits.

    2. As one Salt Lake City seminary/institute instructor -- a Mormon in good standing noted in a book -- Joseph Smith's original FIRST VISION by unnamed entities 'came AFTER his being seized and overcome for a time by Satan. The attack was a powerful one.' (This provides us with a possible window into demonic possession afoot here)

    3. For three September 22nds in Joseph Smith's young life, per an Lds "apostle" speaking at a Mormon church-wide conference in 1952, it highlights how "...Moroni, a personage who came back from the dead and ministered to Joseph Smith, gave him direction, and helped him in the production of the Book of Mormon." This is indeed Mormonism's false ghostly "gospel" distinct from the Christian one.

    4. Indeed, Joseph Smith had plenty of occult books to influence him. See former BYU History professor D. Michael Quinn's Occult Origins of Mormonism: Availability of Occult Books to Joseph Smith (1999). Note: As a BYU history professor at the time, Quinn earlier authored the book: Early Mormonism and the Magic World View

    5. Mitt Romney's Great-great Grandpa (Lds 'apostle' Parley P. Pratt) said Joseph Smith was a 'medium' and Mormonism itself is founded entirely on the practice of necromancy (communication with the dead). And, all of this is STILL emphasized by the Mormon Church leadership in its publications within this generation.

    6. A history of Mormon temple paranormal activity and how communication with the dead is STILL encouraged by the Mormon Church hierarchy is well-documented:

    * 19th century occultic Mormon phenomena: Paranormal intermingling, demonic possession [Vanity]

    * They See Dead People? (The OTHER World Series - LDS & Temple Hauntings)

    * Lds Temple Haunted? Did Declaration of Independence signers appear as ghosts to leader? [Vanity]

    7. Occultic phenomena and visitations by demons was a common 19th-century Mormonism church/church leader phenomena.

  • Demonic and Ungodly Names in the Book of Mormon 3 [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/27/2014 8:27:52 PM PDT · 39 of 77
    Colofornian to ravenwolf; T. P. Pole; All
    Don`t the Churches have enough to worry about with these homosexuals and the men who are having sex with their step mothers with out worrying over some religion like Islam or Mormonism? Why don`t they clean out their own Church like Paul said?

    Well, First of all, please note my response to T.P. Pole. It's not an "either-or" proposition. We thankfully, don't have to choose your all or nothing scenario of somehow as the Universal Church of Jesus Christ only being able to fight a one-front war (spiritual or otherwise).

    Otherwise, we'd have to start clipping passages like Jude 3, like 2 Corinthians 10:3-5, like Titus 1:9-10, and numerous others about the need to defend the truth and to take on heresy (2nd John, 3rd John, Rev. 2, Rev. 3, etc.) -- and just conclude, "Well, hey, Ravenwolf told us these passages aren't relevant on the spiritual warfare front anymore. We've got 'enough to worry' about with sexual aberations, unique family configurations, and Islam!"

  • Demonic and Ungodly Names in the Book of Mormon 3 [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/27/2014 8:22:53 PM PDT · 38 of 77
    Colofornian to southernmann; All
    Sounds like election time is just ‘round the corner. Gotta get psyched-up in case Mitt decides to run.

    (Can't tell with your post if you're referencing yourself & a need for you to get "psyched up"...or if you're implying that the purposes of these threads are due to a "in case Mitt runs" basis)

    If, the latter was the basis of your comment, The OTHER WORLD Series has run now for about four years every Halloween season. And the purpose behind that is to point to the occultic origin and occultic practices and the Magic Worldview behind Mormonism's roots.

  • Demonic and Ungodly Names in the Book of Mormon 3 [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/27/2014 8:19:58 PM PDT · 37 of 77
    Colofornian to T. P. Pole; Scoutmaster; All
    Unfortunately, there are those here who feel that the spiritual danger of Mormons is greater than the physical danger of liberalism or Islam. And actually, I understand where they are coming from - we do need to be very aware of our relationship with Christ. And they feel the existence of Mormonism harms their relationship (or harms others’ relationship with Christ). Of course, I disagree with them. But long experience tells me that discussing it with them is fruitless. So I occasionally pop on to point out an incorrect statement.

    T.P. I'm sure I've pointed out what I am about to say to you & many other FREEPERs. But I will start it out with a fresh approach...and then repeat what I've said for newbies on board...or those who stumble upon this thread via some Internet search:

    In any warfare, attacks from the air or the sea or the ground are all weighed. As to which one constituted a greater threat when and where say--during WWII -- depended upon the year, the month, the place, etc.

    Just because the U.S. initially gave greater weight to fighting Japan in 1942, didn't mean the U.S. necessarily thought Japan was more of a threat (overall) than Germany. And, as we saw, the Silent Generation rose up to show their ability to multi-task not only on multiple fronts, but multiple national enemies.

    Some FREEPERs -- apparently proponents like yourself -- somehow can't seem to imagine how FREEPERs or Evangelicals could possibly oppose Mormonism, cults in general, liberalism, and Islam simultaneously. Somehow, that ability to multi-task seems beyond you (or others).

    What I've repeatedly said on these threads:

    Only a fool thinks the "brush fire" here on earth is the three-alarm, city-wide meltdown that hell represents.

    CNN, don't we take our cultural cue from a certain "Lord" named Jesus Christ? Who are we to follow when it comes to setting cultural priorities? Jesus and the apostle Paul? or some anti-multi-tasking FREEPERS?

    Here's Jesus:

    "I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him." (Luke 12:4-5)

    So does Jesus say, "fear the liberals?" (No)
    Does Jesus say "fear the Muslims?" (No)
    Instead, does He say to exercise fear of the One who has authority to cast somebody into hell? (Yes)
    So, indeed, our "fear" is on behalf of those who are placing their eternal spiritual lives at risk.

    As the apostle Paul was leaving the church of Ephesus, he warned them with this high-priority alert:

    "I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears." (Acts 20:29-31)

    Paul's cultural priority? (Defend against the false disciples who will proselytize the flock and draw away men unto themselves!)

    Tell me something, T.P....: If you did something tearfully night and day for three years, do you think it's rather important? So what? We're just to conclude, "Oh, the man who contributed a good chunk to the New Testament -- what does he know about cultural priorities?"

    I'll take Paul's and Jesus' already-revealed priorities to your guesswork based upon "disagreeing with" those willing to contend for the faith once delivered to the saints (Jude 3)

  • Demonic and Ungodly Names in the Book of Mormon 3 [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/27/2014 10:50:48 AM PDT · 5 of 77
    Colofornian to Resettozero; All
    Most all LDS I know are prospering very well, as far as money is concerned. It's a more pleasant religion and forgiving religion than even RCs enjoy.

    But if I could look you in the eye, and ask you, if religious legalism is "pleasant" and "forgiving" what might your response be?

    Lds leaders impose law after law after law upon Mormons -- who must obey in order to be deemed "worthy"...
    (1) You HAVE TO be obedient to all the commandments & ordinances of the Mormon god
    (2) You HAVE TO tithe -- what Lds reference as the "Law of consecration"
    (3) You HAVE TO obey the "Word of Wisdom" -- not drink coffee, etc.
    (4) You HAVE TO follow the law of eternal marriage...get married -- sorry, no never-married single people allowed
    (5) You HAVE TO have as many children as possible
    (6) You HAVE TO perform temple work for the dead
    (7) You HAVE TO perform endowments essential for this highest degree of salvation
    (8) You HAVE TO be a member of the right church (Lds)
    (9) You HAVE TO receive & perform the rites and ordinances established by that church
    (10) You HAVE TO follow the 'prophet'
    (11) You HAVE TO observe the law of the fast
    (12) You HAVE TO -- as if it wasn't a "want to" -- "pray often"
    (13) Instead of treating repentance as a God-given gift, you HAVE TO treat it as a "law" -- and if you commit the same sin over again, it nullifies any previous "repentance" you did regarding that sin, treating it as if you never repented
    (14)You HAVE TO have Joseph Smith's consent to enter into your highest afterlife

    And then, of course, there's the obvious Biblical laws (10 commandments) -- which the apostle Paul warned didn't lead to receiving the Spirit:

    1 You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2 I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard? 3 Are you so foolish? After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh? 4 Have you experienced so much in vain—if it really was in vain? 5 So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard? 6 So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”
    10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is EVERYONE who does not continue to do EVERYTHING written in the Book of the Law.” (Gal. 3:1-6, 10)

  • Demonic and Ungodly Names in the Book of Mormon 3 [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/27/2014 10:49:29 AM PDT · 4 of 77
    Colofornian to Resettozero; All
    Most all LDS I know are prospering very well, as far as money is concerned. It's a more pleasant religion and forgiving religion than even RCs enjoy.

    Well, I won't speak to RC now...(and therefore immediately convert this into a RC thread)... but the Bottom line is really this:

    The LDS are the "rules oriented" ones:

    ***************

    Example 1...from the Book of Mormon:

    Q. According to the Book of Mormon, who initiates grace -- man or God?
    A. Man

    Q. Where is that found?
    A. Helaman 12:24 and 2 Nephi 25:23

    And may God grant, in his great fulness, that men might be brought unto repentance and good works, that they might be restored unto grace for grace, ACCORDING TO THEIR WORKS. (Hel. 12:24)

    If grace is "merited" "according to...works" -- then, sorry, "grace" is no longer "free." It's been turned on its head & 100% redefined. (Just try teaching your kids to merit their birthday & Christmas "gifts" "according to their works.")

    ****************

    Example Two -- From a previous Mormon "prophet": The purity and perfection we seek is unattainable without this subjection of unworthy, ungodlike urges and the corresponding encouragement of their opposites. We certainly cannot expect the rules to be easier for us than for the Son of God... (Lds "prophet" Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, p. 28)

    Just look @ all the "rule extensions" Lds have imposed upon their followers (see next post) in order to make it to the highest degree of afterlife...That is 19th-20th-21st century legalism!

    In contrast, God's truth is "the concept of free and full forgiveness through Christ" rather than the "earned forgiveness taught in Mormonism."

    *******

    Example 3 -- from this Mormon Church publication piece written by one of their general authorities (Nelson), citing Mormon "scripture" Doctrine & Covenants 130:21 ... source: DIVINE LOVE (Is Also Conditional) MORMON (OPEN)

    When we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated.” 28 ... The Lord declares: “All who will have a blessing at my hands shall abide the law which was appointed for that blessing, and the conditions thereof. …
    “And as pertaining to the new and everlasting covenant, it was instituted for the fulness of my glory; and he that receiveth a fulness thereof must and shall abide the law, or he shall be damned, saith the Lord God. “… The conditions of this law are these: All covenants, contracts, bonds, obligations, oaths, vows, performances, connections, associations, or expectations, that are not made and entered into and sealed … of him who is anointed, … are of no efficacy, virtue, or force in and after the resurrection from the dead.” 30 ... Such a blessing is conditional. Those who fail to tithe have no promise.

    Wow! Sounds like a good spiritual lawyer!! "The conditions of this law are these: All covenants, contracts, bonds, obligations, oaths, vows, performances, connections, associations, or expectations...!!!

    Taking a look into Nelson's "footnote 28" and its reference: “When we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated.” 28 [Source: Doctrine & Covenants 130:21]

    Do MORMONS believe that?
    Do all Mormons believe that?
    Do you think that ANY and ALL blessings from God are "predicated" upon "obedience to that law" that automatically triggers the blessing -- like some gambling slot machine...that if you just put in enough "obediences" out comes eventual "blessings?"

  • Demonic and Ungodly Names in the Book of Mormon 2 [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/27/2014 10:05:21 AM PDT · 4 of 30
    Colofornian to Jim Robinson

    Indeed!

  • Demonic and Ungodly Names in the Book of Mormon 3 [The OTHER WORLD series]

  • Demonic and Ungodly Names in the Book of Mormon 2 [The OTHER WORLD series]

  • Demonic and Ungodly Names in the Book of Mormon 1 [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/27/2014 9:58:49 AM PDT · 1 of 2
    Colofornian
    This is a series called The OTHER World Series...

    For example, in previous "OTHER WORLD series" postings, the origins of names means something:

    See, for example, The Occult & Restoration Story [Where does the word 'Mormon' originate?]

  • Mormons address mystery surrounding undergarments

    10/27/2014 8:21:23 AM PDT · 107 of 146
    Colofornian to SkyDancer; JAKraig; Elsie; All
    They say that underwear is supposed to protect them from harm

    In my last post, I noted how the Mormon Church official publication, Ensign, in its October 2003 edition said:

    "...The garment, … when properly worn, will serve as a protection against temptation and evil."

    Note in that article, there failed to be any commentary whatsoever as to how that was to be accomplished. They didn't say, "it will serve as a reminder of your covenants" or any other description.

    IoW, Mormon leaders have implied thru the years how the process is almost like spiritual osmosis...

    And yet what do we have Mormon leadership saying now?

    "The video notes that there is nothing magical or mystical about them"
    Mormons explain their sacred undergarments

  • Mormons address mystery surrounding undergarments

    10/27/2014 8:09:09 AM PDT · 106 of 146
    Colofornian to JAKraig; SkyDancer; greyfoxx39; Elsie; All
    I'm married to a Mormon who wears the garments, they're underwear period. The underwear is rather plain and if it weren't for the little symbols sewn onto them you could buy them at any store that sells undergarments. They have sacred symbols on them to remind them of the promises they made to God. They are a protection to them in the same way that people who are true to their faith are protected by God. Only cynical, Non-Mormons call them “Magic Underwear”.

    Eleven years ago this month, the Lds Church published in its Ensign magazine an article by Elder David E. Sorensen which included this comment from Sorensen, representing the official Mormon church:

    "...The garment, … when properly worn, will serve as a protection against temptation and evil."

    And, uncanningly, four years ago YESTERDAY, I asked the following question on a FR thread about Mormon underwear:

    "Why is it @ Mormon testimony meetings we don't hear testimonies about how somebody's temple garment (Underwear) saved them from temptation and evil? Anybody know of such a testimony?

    The Doctrine of Temple Work (Mormonism - Open) (post #16) ALL: I recommend you check out that entire thread...381 responses...
  • Mormons address mystery surrounding undergarments

    10/27/2014 7:59:51 AM PDT · 105 of 146
    Colofornian to elcid1970; Elsie; All
    It’s not even sunrise, and your post is starting my day with an “Oh, SHIZ!!” moment. I clutch my coffee mug for comfort. We’ve joked about Mormon fantasticalisms for years, but it’s not funny anymore: how do so many intelligent people believe this concocted poppycock!!? The 19th century was chock full of pied pipers & charlatans & snake oil salesmen, but it seems that Joseph Smith alone has maintained his horde of deluded followers, modern DNA & archaeological methods notwithstanding. A North American empire of white & delightsome blond Hebrews wiped out by dark skinned Jewish Indians without a trace left behind.....it boggles the (non-Mormon) mind.

    Ironically...Laughingly...yet quite sad.

  • Lecture by Dr. Adam Miller, Professor of Philosophy: 'Zombies, Vampires, and the Book of Mormon'

    10/21/2014 5:16:47 AM PDT · 1 of 18
    Colofornian
    From the lecture abstract description:

    Abstract: Zombies and vampires bend the rules of time. Death arrives for them but, even after its arrival, their lives continue. They die but, rather than passing on to the next world, they continue in this one. In this sense, zombies and vampires model an important aspect of Christian life...

    ....OOOOOOOOOOKayyyyyyyyyyy

    So here is a Mormon philosophy prof using Stephenie Meyer's Twilight Vampire theme (who is is also Mormon) to describe Mormon theology at a college campus. And vampires and zombies are s'posed to be our "Christian life...model."

    (A cup of occult tea, anyone?)

    (In case you missed yesterday's posting of The OTHER WORLD series: Mormon Vampires in the Garden of Eden [The OTHER WORLD series])

  • Mormon Vampires in the Garden of Eden [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/20/2014 8:56:45 AM PDT · 14 of 29
    Colofornian to Alex Murphy

    LOL

  • Mormon Vampires in the Garden of Eden [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/20/2014 8:20:10 AM PDT · 5 of 29
    Colofornian to All

    (Also, be sure to read this Touchstone Mag’s review re: Meyer’s ‘pokes’ at Joseph Smith and how Meyer presents the Catholic Church as the “Volturi”).

  • Mormon Vampires in the Garden of Eden [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/20/2014 8:19:31 AM PDT · 4 of 29
    Colofornian to All
    From the Touchstone Mag review re: how the 'Fall' in the Garden of Eden matches Mormon theology that it was a "good thing": :

    ...Stephenie Meyer’s Twilight books...featuring atypical vampires and werewolf champions are allegories...a re-telling of the Garden of Eden drama—with a Mormon twist. Here, the Fall is a good thing, even the key to salvation and divinization, just as Joseph Smith...the Latter-day Saint prophet, said it was...Christians understand Adam and Eve’s disobedience to God, their “original sin,” or Fall, as the beginning of man’s distance from God, a distance that man could not restore on his own, but that required the incarnation and sacrifice of a divine, sinless Savior to accomplish. Mormons reject this interpretation...not only was the Fall not a bad thing, it was actually a good, even necessary thing for human salvation...

    Allow me to cite a few Lds current "apostles" (Packer & Oaks) presentation of the 'Fall" presented by Mormon leaders as a "good thing":

    * Lds 'apostle Packer's distasteful Lds theology on the fall of mankind
    * The Lds church in one of its priesthood manuals calls the Great Fall a  "Great Blessing" while one of its general authorities, active "apostle" Dallin Oaks, wrote: "Some Christians condemn Eve for her act, concluding that she and her daughters are somehow flawed by it. Not the Latter-day Saints! Informed by revelation, we celebrate Eve's act and honor her with wisdom and courage in the great episode called the Fall." ("The Choice that Began Mortality" Liahona, 2002)

    Wow. As another Mormon leader phrased it, Eve's sin was a 'fall' -- but it was an "upward fall."
    Only in upsidedown Mormonism... 
    ...are falls "upward" bounding... 
    ...are wars, murders, hate, idolatry, racism, rape, incest, sexual abuse, lust, theft, and other consequences of the fall a "blessing" to be "celebrated."... 
    ...is the pride of wanting to become a fellow "god" of THE God a "good thing..."  [Last time I checked the Bible, the prophet Isaiah didn't exactly promote that idea (Is. 14:14-16; chapter 43; chapter 44; chapter 45)]

    For the sake of non-Mormons, allow me to explain the word "mortal" from a Mormon perspective: Why do Lds believe that by Adam & Eve sinning, it wasn't simply a "fall" -- but an "fall upward" -- an event to be "celebrated"??? Because they believe that it was only by mankind sinning that they could die -- becoming "mortal." And that by becoming "mortal" they could both (finally) have kids AND thereby rise to (eventual) godhood.

  • Mormon Vampires in the Garden of Eden [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/20/2014 8:17:14 AM PDT · 3 of 29
    Colofornian to All
    From the Touchstone Mag review:

    The key word in...Meyer’s dream is not “vampire”...but “meadow.”...“Mountain Meadows,”...means something much less pastoral and positive and much more visceral and painful to...LDS. ...2003 saw the publication of three books...focused on the 1857 Mountain Meadows Massacre, in which...Mormon faithful in Southern Utah executed...120 men, women, and children on their way to California from Arkansas. All three books paint the Mormon faith as inherently bloodthirsty, violent, secretive, and abusive to women and non-believers...Mountain Meadows Massacre of 1857...is an atrocity with few equivalents in American history. The only Mormon defenses for it have been the pathetic insistence that...migrating families somehow provoked the attack and ...all Utah was in a panic that they were about to be killed by the US Army and California militias gathering at their borders.

  • Mormon Vampires in the Garden of Eden [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/20/2014 8:16:32 AM PDT · 2 of 29
    Colofornian to All
    From the Touchstone Mag review re: Mormon "child-'brides'":

    ...In his 2003 book, Under the Banner of Heaven, Jon Krakauer presents many damning anecdotes about the suffering of child-brides in communities of polygamous LDS fundamentalists who live, for the most part, above and outside the law in the Mormon belt. These girls are wed in their early teens to much older men practicing what they call “celestial marriage.”...

  • Mormon Vampires in the Garden of Eden [The OTHER WORLD series]

    10/20/2014 8:16:07 AM PDT · 1 of 29
    Colofornian
    Well, THE World Series kicks off this week. But ya know, there is -- ANOTHER World...as in "The OTHER WORLD series!"

    Mormon cosmology...Mormon anthropology...Mormon theology. And, as this review by a Mormon mag mentions, even Mormon alchemy and Mormon epistemology as well (All-in-one!)

    If you want to skip most of the lengthy review of the vampire "Twilight" series -- and just want to get to the boiled-down summary. Well, here it is:

    From the Touchstone Mag review:

    ...featuring atypical vampires and werewolf champions are allegories...a re-telling of the Garden of Eden drama—with a Mormon twist. Here, the Fall is a good thing, even the key to salvation and divinization, just as Joseph Smith, Jr., the Latter-day Saint prophet, said it was.

    The reviewer even recounts the origination of The Twilight series as it occurred to Mormon writer Stephenie Meyer (a dream).

    ******************

    As for the "series" element of this post, you can visit this link for primary research re: 19th century occultic Mormon phenomena: Paranormal intermingling, demonic possession [Vanity].

    For this and 16 other articles posted as part of the 2013 "Other World Series" re: the occultic/paranormal linkage of Mormonism and "the other world," see: Colofornian's articles

    This list did not include the final three postings from Oct. 31, 2013:
    * The Haunting of a Mormon Missionary in Ecuador [The OTHER World Series]
    * Earning Your Scooby Snack [The OTHER World Series: The Paranormal in Salt Lake City]
    * A haunted house in Salt Lake City? McCune Mansion [The OTHER World Series]

  • Professor at Pontifical University of the Holy Cross in Rome-Islamic State not un-Islamic model is..

    10/07/2014 7:55:34 PM PDT · 1 of 14
    Colofornian
    ALL: Please note: Had to excerpt headline...too long for character allowance...Full headline is:
    Professor at Pontifical University of the Holy Cross in Rome: Islamic State not un-Islamic, “model is Muhammad himself”
  • Is Islam a destructive force in the world? [O'Reilly]

    10/07/2014 8:54:48 AM PDT · 1 of 41
    Colofornian