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  • Over 40,000 pounds of ground beef recalled due to E. coli concerns

    06/15/2020 11:10:31 AM PDT · 8 of 18
    askjeff to BenLurkin

    This is the equivalent of one truckload. Not a big deal in the overall supply.

  • 'We All Owe Al Gore An Apology': More People See Climate Change In Record Flooding

    06/08/2019 9:07:35 PM PDT · 73 of 79
    askjeff to yarddog

    We actually had water running in it most of the winter. Of course it disappeared as soon as the started the irrigation pumps

  • Kansas State Interrupts Kentucky’s Waltz Through the Bracket

    03/23/2018 5:49:13 AM PDT · 6 of 47
    askjeff to Oldeconomybuyer

    EMAW

  • GOP establishment choice wins Iowa's House contest

    06/22/2014 4:50:52 AM PDT · 9 of 28
    askjeff to zeestephen

    Grassley isn’t retiring. Tom Harkin the democrat senator is the one retiring. Thus the possibility of a republican pick up.

  • "Occupy" Protests Go Worldwide (Fox News)

    10/15/2011 6:16:47 AM PDT · 3 of 43
    askjeff to Mr. K

    There were more 13-year-old girls trying to see Taylor Swift at Macy’s yesterday than their are OWS protestors in NY.

  • Teenager shot while allegedly trying to rob a taco stand(TX)

    05/08/2010 7:05:18 AM PDT · 9 of 31
    askjeff to avacado

    I like that better than calling the bad guy the victim like they usually do.

  • Home Invader Dies In Struggle With Father Of Intended Victim

    09/29/2008 5:52:39 AM PDT · 24 of 57
    askjeff to Abathar

    Great! Now they’ll be trying to take away our right to bare arms.

  • CD to Include Clinton's Favorite Tunes [add your own titles....]

    08/14/2005 1:10:52 PM PDT · 33 of 100
    askjeff to Sub-Driver

    ZZ Top's Tube Snake Boogie

  • Market bomb: Allies were targetting Iraqi missiles (in civilian area)

    03/26/2003 2:22:47 PM PST · 4 of 19
    askjeff to Straight Vermonter
    Rummy made it clear today at the Pentagon briefing that we did not go after any targets near the market. The targets, while near residential areas, were in other parts of the city.
  • Can You Help Me Counter This 'Boycott Saudi Oil' E-mail?

    02/22/2003 8:55:40 AM PST · 16 of 27
    askjeff to AntiGuv
    Conoco is not listed on the link provided.
  • Can You Help Me Counter This 'Boycott Saudi Oil' E-mail?

    02/22/2003 8:24:13 AM PST · 4 of 27
    askjeff to beaversmom
    From snopes.com


    Origins: If it weren't for all the gross statistical errors and the naïve grasp of oil industry economics exhibited here, this piece might actually have some validity.

    Although the message quoted above doesn't address where (outside of the Middle East) we import oil from, many people come away from reading it with the mistaken impression that most of the USA's crude oil is imported from the Middle East. It isn't. According to the most recent figures regarding crude oil imports, only 31% of the USA's imports came from Arab OPEC countries (Algeria, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia) in January 2002. The top six countries (by percentage of total USA imports) supplying crude oil to the USA in January 2002 were:

    Saudi Arabia: 16.9%
    Mexico: 15.1%
    Canada: 15.0%
    Venezuela: 14.4%
    Iraq: 11.4%
    Nigeria: 5.9.%


    (Henceforth, our definition of "Middle East" will encompass the five countries identified by the U.S. Department of Energy as "Arab OPEC" nations: Algeria, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia. This definition does not include other oil-exporting countries identifed by the DoE as "Persian Gulf" exporters, such as Bahrain, Iran, and the United Arab Emirates.)

    Moving along, we find that nearly all of the statistics offered in the piece quoted above are erroneous or outdated:


    By the way, 86% of all middle eastern oil comes from Saudi Arabia and Iraq.



    Sorry, but no. According to the chart below, straight off the U.S. Department of Energy's (DoE) web site, only 56% of the oil exported from the Persian Gulf in 2001 came from Saudi Arabia and Iraq, and that figure is probably even lower now that Iraq has cut its oil exports in protest of Israel's recent actions on the West Bank.




    Here are some large companies that do not import much Middle Eastern oil:
    Citgo 0 barrels of oil
    Sunoco 0
    Conoco 0
    Sinclair 0
    Phillips 0
    BP Amoco 62,231,000




    Wrong again. The DoE tracks oil imports by company each month, and although the raw data are a little hard to follow (fortunately, the DoE also provides an explanation of their symbols), for February 2002 the totals were as follows:


    CITGO is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the national oil company of Venezuela, so naturally most of its crude oil comes from there. However, in February 2002 CITGO also imported from Middle Eastern countries in the following quantities:
    Iraq: 1,342,000 barrels
    Kuwait: 437,000 barrels



    Conoco imports primarily from Mexico, Venezuela, and Canada, and not from Middle Eastern countries. However, they are planning to merge with Phillips, which does import from Middle Eastern countries (see below).

    BP imports from a variety of oil-producing countries, but in February 2002 BP North America also imported from Middle Eastern countries in the following quantities:
    Iraq: 470,000 barrels
    Kuwait: 415,000 barrels
    Saudi Arabia: 2,123,000 barrels
    Algeria: 3,853,000 barrels



    Phillips also imports from a variety of oil-producing countries, but in February 2002 Phillips imported from Middle Eastern countries in the following quantities:
    Iraq: 717,000 barrels
    Saudi Arabia: 1,100,000 barrels



    Sinclair imports from Canada, not the Middle East.

    Sunoco imports primarily from Canada, Angola, and Nigeria, not Middle Eastern countries.
    So, "doing the math" and multiplying these monthly figures by $30/barrel and projecting them over the course of a year, supporting only the companies listed above would still be putting $3.76 billion dollars per year in the coffers of Middle Eastern countries.

    Statistics aside, the glaring fallacy here is the suggestion that we could possibly buy our gasoline only from these selected companies. This notion is like claiming that we could put the big grocery chains out of business if we all bought our food only from small mom & pop stores, but ignoring the fact that these small shops couldn't possibly come close to supplying all our grocery needs. The oil companies named above are relatively small (which is a large part of the reason why they don't necessarily import from the Middle East) and could not satisfy the demand that would be created if a significant portion of the USA's consumer base were to shun all the largest oil companies, unless they bought up the output of the companies we were supposed to be avoiding in the first place (or, alternatively, unless they raised their prices sky-high).

    Moreover, the idea that oil companies sell gasoline only through their branded service stations -- and therefore if you don't buy gasoline from Shell-branded gas stations you're not sending money to Shell (or, by extension, the Middle East) -- is wrong. Oil companies sell their output through a variety of outlets other than their branded stations; as well, by the time crude oil gets from the ground into our gasoline tanks, there's no telling exactly where it came from. (A good deal of the crude oil purchased from Russia, for example, is oil from Iraqi fields sold through Russian middlemen.)

    As the St. Louis Post-Dispatch noted:


    Economics Prof. Pat Welch of St. Louis University says any boycott of "bad guy" gasoline in favor of "good guy" brands would have some unintended (and unhappy) results.
    Although foreign relations wax and wane, Welch says, the law of supply and demand is set in stone. "To meet the sudden demand," he says, "the good guys would have to buy gasoline wholesale from the bad guys, who are suddenly stuck with unwanted gasoline."

    So motorists would end up buying Arab oil anyway -- and paying more for it, because they'd be buying it at fewer stations.

    And yes, oil companies do buy and sell from one another. Mike Right of AAA Missouri says, "If a company has a station that can be served more economically by a competitor's refinery, they'll do it."

    Right adds, "In some cases, gasoline retailers have no refinery at all. Some convenience-store chains sell a lot of gasoline -- and buy it all from somebody else's refinery."

    St. Louis University's Welch says, "The e-mail presupposes that you know who the supplier is, and that's not always the case."




    Finally, what this scheme proposes is merely a symbolic solution rather than a practical one, because even if the USA stopped importing oil from the Middle East, other countries will still purchase it. (Japan alone, for example, generally buys as much or more oil from countries such as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait than the USA does.)

    Complex problems rarely lend themselves to simple, painless answers. Simply shifting where we buy gasoline isn't nearly as good a solution as the much tougher choice of sharply curtailing the amount of gasoline we buy.

    Last updated: 23 April 2002
  • Boeing to cut 5,000 more jobs

    11/20/2002 3:20:33 PM PST · 5 of 19
    askjeff to crypt2k
    Maybe laid-off Boeing workers in Wichita can get a job a Coleman.
  • 26-8 GOP Advantage in CNN "Called Races" thus far!

    11/05/2002 4:52:54 PM PST · 13 of 45
    askjeff to Straight Vermonter
    So much for Zogby's anti-incumbent theory.
  • Gore Warns Against Iraq Attack

    09/23/2002 4:49:37 PM PDT · 45 of 78
    askjeff to McLynnan
    Jesse James was killed by a lone gunman in a "pre-emptive" strike.
  • US sends heavy armour to Gulf as campaign grows

    09/07/2002 8:57:22 AM PDT · 2 of 2
    askjeff to Tumbleweed_Connection
    Planning to pummel the Iraqis with canned hams?
  • Weyerhaeuser to Shut Down 3 Plants (206 Jobs Lost)

    06/07/2002 12:25:44 PM PDT · 4 of 4
    askjeff to bloggerjohn
    This is the result of a recent merger. It has nothing to do with China. The big get bigger, close ineffecient plants and take excess supply out of the market to keep prices up.
  • Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 24 February 2002

    02/24/2002 9:05:24 AM PST · 63 of 79
    askjeff to MindyW
    Brownback is not a physician. He is a lifetime politician here in KS. His family farms. He is the former Ag Secretary for the State of KS. He is very principled and a good senator for us.
  • Bush May Designate National Monument in Utah

    01/31/2002 10:57:23 AM PST · 5 of 23
    askjeff to DoughtyOne
    The difference is that the Gov. of Utah is requesting that Bush make the designation. Clinton did it over the objections of Utah, and then made the announcement from Arizona.
  • Temporary Exhibit To Offer Glimpse Of Clinton Treasure Trove

    10/11/2001 10:59:27 AM PDT · 6 of 31
    askjeff to spectre
    Rutherford said he wanted to put the temporary exhibit in the Cox Building

    Will there be a exhibit on Monica in the Cox-Sucker Pavilion?