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Service members petitioning to be allowed to have beards again
popularmilitary.com ^ | Sep. 2, 2016 | Andy Wolf

Posted on 09/07/2016 2:56:20 PM PDT by PROCON

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Most all of my unit's helicopter pilots in Vietnam would sport handlebar mustaches, it was a pilot thingy, and it was a war zone.

I say NO to beards for 2 reasons.

1) They'll compromise MOPP (mission-oriented protective posture), ie.(How quick can you shave with gas on the way?)

2) IMHO, it'll make units look ragtag.

Any of you younger vets have another opinion?

1 posted on 09/07/2016 2:56:20 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: Baynative; Jet Jaguar

Pingy


2 posted on 09/07/2016 2:56:44 PM PDT by PROCON ("Lock Her Up! Lock Her Up!")
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To: PROCON
GI Joe approves.


3 posted on 09/07/2016 2:57:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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4 posted on 09/07/2016 2:57:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: dfwgator

ooooh, I remember HIM in the 1970s! Very sexy back then! (Now looks a little porn-ish, lol.)


5 posted on 09/07/2016 2:59:02 PM PDT by rhoda_penmark
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Servicemen had beards until WW1 when poison gas can into use as a weapon. Gas masks would not seal against the skin on a soldier’s face with a beard, so shaving became a matter of living or dying.


6 posted on 09/07/2016 3:00:50 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (The reason for Gun Control has always been Government's Fear of Rebellion.)
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For some reason it makes me think Muzzies are doing the petitioning.


7 posted on 09/07/2016 3:01:17 PM PDT by dforest
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And looks too muzzy to me. In fact, more jihadis will join if allowed to wear beards.


8 posted on 09/07/2016 3:01:46 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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Well, for 1, NO neckbeards then!

For 2, Why not trimmed goaties, longer sideburns and not-Hitler mustaches? I mean, completely bald—shaved heads, waxed bodies, plucked eyebrows— would look even more uniform, but sometimes one wants to actually be not unattractive to women.


9 posted on 09/07/2016 3:01:50 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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Funny.


10 posted on 09/07/2016 3:02:59 PM PDT by lacrew
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the writers of the petition call for the return of the long-gone tradition of tasteful facial hair on service members, citing a boost in morale.

If you need facial hair for morale you are an insufferable whiner. What the hell has happened to the men in this country?

11 posted on 09/07/2016 3:03:03 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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"but sometimes one wants to actually be not unattractive to women"

Well, then you definitely didn't want to wear the old Army-issued eyeglasses!

12 posted on 09/07/2016 3:04:30 PM PDT by BlueLancer (Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.)
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IMO the soldiers who are petitioning for beards are muslimes
13 posted on 09/07/2016 3:05:03 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Alas Babylon!
*Sigh*, you zoomies!

Good points but even goatees and longer sideburns would affect the face seal of the protective (gas) mask, IMHO.

14 posted on 09/07/2016 3:05:55 PM PDT by PROCON ("Lock Her Up! Lock Her Up!")
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Is this cover for the Jihadis burrowing into the US military?


15 posted on 09/07/2016 3:06:23 PM PDT by Truth29
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In the Navy there used to be a tradition allowing Chief Petty Officers, Warrant Officers and more senior (usually LCDR and up) to wear a tastefully trimmed beard. But yeah in a chemical warfare attack that won’t do. On the other hand the odds of a surprise attack with poison gas are so low, I might OK with allowing beards for servicemen not stationed in combat zones. I think the Brits still allow it.


16 posted on 09/07/2016 3:06:50 PM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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Muzzies? Perhaps, but look at the pro athletes and what the youngsters see on the TV....Beards!

I think they just want to be hip.

17 posted on 09/07/2016 3:08:09 PM PDT by PROCON ("Lock Her Up! Lock Her Up!")
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On the subject of a chemical environment...the beard isn’t just an issue, in the actual event of a chemical environment. That’s not the only time a mask is used. It was used often in training, to make sure we could function in full MOPP gear. Part of the tank gunnery was done with masks on, I’ve roadmarched with mask on, even played volleyball with it on. So that puts me in the ‘no’ to beard column.

I also see a sanitation issue - again in just training as much as actual combat. We would get funky filthy, and go up to three weeks without a shower in training. I couldn’t imagine what kind of food would fester in a beard when you go that long without bathing.


18 posted on 09/07/2016 3:09:19 PM PDT by lacrew
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I think they should be allowed to have beards. After all their CIC has a beard...

-———rimshot———


19 posted on 09/07/2016 3:10:05 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Hillary Clinton, the elderly woman's version of "I dindu nuffins.")
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To: BlueLancer

Those birth control glasses are in style now for hipsters...which is amazing to me.


20 posted on 09/07/2016 3:10:19 PM PDT by lacrew
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