Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 3 of 4

1. In such passages as Matthew 13:39-40; 13:49; 24:3; 28:20; etc., isn’t Jesus referring to the end of an age (Greek aion) rather than the end of the world (Greek kosmos)? In other words, if the author was talking about the end of the world, wouldn’t he have used kosmos when he actually used aion?

2. The “time of the end” mentioned in Daniel 12:1-13 was to be when the burnt offering was taken away. Since burnt offerings ended in AD 70, must not this be the timeline, thus the “last days” of which the Bible speaks?

3. Doesn’t every mention of the last days in the New Testament refer to the first century, thus the last days of the old covenant rather than the end of the physical universe? (Matthew 24:3, 14, 34; Acts 2:14-20; 1 Corinthians 7:29-31; 10:11; 1 Timothy 4:1; 2 Timothy 3:1-5; Hebrews 1:2; 9:26; James 5:3-9; 1 Peter 1:5, 20; 4:7; 2 Peter 3:3; 1 John 2:18; Jude 18).

1. What verse of Scripture do you find that Christ will come for his saints to take them to heaven prior to a 7-year period of tribulation?

2. Is there any verse in the Bible that even teaches a “seven-year tribulation?”

3. If Jesus is going to rapture the church out of the world, why does Jesus pray for the exact opposite thing to happen—that the church would NOT be taken out of the world—in John 17:15?

4. Is eschatology so confusing that God would have us bounce around between somewhere (hades/”temporary abode”), heaven, earth, new heaven and new earth? Wouldn’t you want to stay in heaven when you get there?

5. Doesn’t the Jewish War of 66-70 AD qualify as a great tribulation, given that that over a million Jews were killed, their nation was dissolved, their temple decimated, and along with it went their whole world order and the centerpiece of their religion—the centuries old system of animal sacrifices for sin?

6. DIDN’T JESUS SPECIFICALLY SAY THE TRIBULATION WOULD HAPPEN IN HIS GENERATION (Matthew 24:9, 21, 29, 34)? Isn’t every time the phrase “this generation” used in the New Testament outside of the Oliver Discourse, the meaning is clearly those living in the first century (Matthew 11:16; 12:38-45; 23:36; Mark 8:12; 8:38-9:1; Luke 7:31; 11:29-32, 49-51; 17:25).

7. If the great tribulation (Matthew 24:21) is global, why did Jesus tell those living in Judea to flee to the mountains to avoid the tribulation (Matthew 24:16)?

8. Doesn’t Daniel tell us exactly when the time of distress (12:1), the resurrection (12:2), the time of the end (12:9), and the abomination of desolation (12:11)—all occur when the power of the holy people has finally been broken (12:7) and the burnt offering taken away (12:11)? Can there be ANY doubt that this was AD 70?

CHARLES S. MEEK: 10, 20, AND PRETERISM STILL FALLS SHORT.

Part 1 Stephen Whitsett M.Div. Th.M. PhD (abd)

ABSTRACT: Charles Meeks like many other Full Preterist writers / teachers of Full Preterism lack in a foundation of consistent, coherent, or unified theology that has been acquired over years of scholarly driven research and development. They often have little theological background and even less historical knowledge of Christianity and even take pride in telling people they just get their belief from the Bible alone, as if they are some Andreas Karlstadt or Thomas Munzer and less a Luther.

Attempts made by FP to systemize their theology has yet been accomplished in over 70 years of its existence. But then it never can be. Meeks attempt to provide 10 clues as to how to understand the Heaven and Earth in the NT and writes 20 observation as to why Revelation was written pre-AD 70. This paper examines his arguments to demonstrate the fundamental issues that undermine the FP paradigm credibility of not only the written works but of the authors / teachers of FP.

There are two principles that drive the FP movement born from out of the roots of Max King and his disciples from the churches of Christ. 2 The fist being a rejection of the church’s teaching for the last 2000 years from either the Catholic or Protestant perspective. 3 The second is based on the idea of the first, each person must study the bible for themselves to arrive at the truth and not depend on the interpretations of others, including other FP. The end result is a movement plagued with in-house fighting and disagreements with over 17 different “official” forms of FP starting with the split of IBV or CBV. 4

Each vying for attention and notoriety with their YOU Tube Channels and blogs that are designed to spread their messages along with a plethora of books and websites

There is no official credited University that teaches FP as a viable option of Eschatology or recognized degrees offered in FP theology. FP does not have one viable Greek or Hebrew scholar who supports their position of interpretations or any type of PhD backing. It remains on the backs of the unlearned.

Having years of bible study under your belt does not equal “qualified,” if one never learned the proper rules of hermeneutics or exegesis, the system of study remains flawed form its inception. Any number of posts will reveal this failure when compared to the work of scholars.

https://www.academia.edu/82224419/CHARLES_meek_10_heaven_and_earth

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Chuck....bro.....give it up.

DIDN’T JESUS SPECIFICALLY SAY THE TRIBULATION WOULD HAPPEN IN HIS GENERATION … ??

No. He did not. Never used any reference to “his” generation, whatever that could possibly mean.

And get it right: The phrase is “great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, neither shall be”, with the next verse explicitly stating “And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh should be saved” . . . no war took place in 70 AD that ever came close to endangering the existence of “all flesh” (the phrase means what it says; it is not mistranslated), nor have the many subsequent wars, not even the unprecedentedly bad world wars of the last century. Nor has seismic activity risen to the level described in Matthew 24:7.

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