Posted on 04/08/2024 5:41:17 PM PDT by Texan4Life
The silence in most churches regarding our “blessed hope” makes our expectation all the more difficult to maintain. On top of that, many of our Christian friends and family members believe it’s irrational to regard the Rapture as something that might happen anytime soon or even in our lifetime. Many in our churches think we are crazy for believing that there is such a thing as the Rapture or a seven-year Tribulation.
In spite of the long wait and scoffing that comes my way, I remain convinced that imminency is not only incredibly important for today, but also an essential aspect of our walk with the Savior.
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Mark 13:22-27
22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 and the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
There are numerous scriptures (Matthew 24:29-31, Mark 13:22-27, Revelation 6:9-11, 13:7) that talk about a gathering (not a rapture) about troubling times and tribulation.
You haven’t defended anything, you just claim that you have.
Just because you express an opinion or a false belief is not defending God’s Truths.
Just try to answer the questions with reason if you can?
Already done, multiple times.
Same stuff over and over from you.
Already answered X 10
We have had one (physical coming) at His birth
We will have a second physical coming when the Son of Man appears on the clouds and slays His enemies and reigns.
"At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory"
In between, believers are gathered to meet him in the clouds.
"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
It is a shame that Bible only believers do not understand the Bible and God’s Truths.
Why Pray to Mary? Because Jesus has given us his Blessed Mother as our great spiritual mother (Rev.12:17), a heavenly advocate who intercedes for us.
Some Christians will ask, “Why pray to Mary when we can go directly to Jesus?” And yet they have no problem asking others here on earth to pray for them, instead of simply and solely praying to Jesus on their own. Indeed, St. Paul says that God grants blessings “in answer to many prayers” (2 Cor. 1:11). And if the prayer of a righteous man on earth avails much with God (Jas. 5:16–18), how much more would prayers from one who has finished the race and now reigns with Christ in heaven?
Scripture elsewhere speaks of the “the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven” and “the spirits of just men made perfect” (Heb. 12:23, emphasis added). Given their heavenly perfection in Jesus, which would include perfection in charity and thus concern for their brothers and sisters in Christ on earth (see 1 Cor. 2:12-26), we should not be surprised that Scripture presents these holy men and women of heaven bringing our prayers to Jesus the Lamb (Rev. 5:8), and that from the early Church onward Christians have asked the intercession of the saints who have gone before them to heaven.
In this light, we see that the saints—as faithful disciples of Jesus—are his collaborators, not his competitors in interceding for us. Consequently, because Mary is the Mother of God and the disciple par excellence (see Luke 1:28, 38), we should not be surprised that she is our preeminent intercessor among the angels and saints.
If you don’t understand God’s Truths in the Bible, how are you ever going to understand all of God’s Truths?
https://www.catholic.com/qa/why-pray-to-mary
The faith of the Church is that the saints are not really dead, but are fully alive in Jesus Christ, who is life itself (John 11:25; 14:6) and the bread of life who bestows life on all who eat his flesh and drink his blood (John 6:35, 48, 51, 53-56). The saints are alive in heaven because of the life they have received through their faith in Christ Jesus and through their eating of his body and blood.
The book of Revelation shows the saints worshipping God, singing hymns, playing instruments, making requests to Christ to avenge their martyrdom, and offering prayers for the saints on earth (Rev. 4:10, 5:8, 6:9-11).
First, God expects us to pray for one another. We see this in both the Old and New Testaments.
In a dream, God commanded King Abimelech to ask Abraham to intercede for him: “For [Abraham] is a prophet and he will pray for you, so you shall live” (Gen. 20:7). When the Lord is angry with Job’s friends because they did not speak rightly about God, he tells them, “Let my servant Job pray for you because I will accept his [prayer], lest I make a terror on you” (Job 42:8).
Paul wrote to the Romans: “I exhort you, brothers, through our Lord Jesus Christ and through the love of the Spirit, to strive with me in prayers to God on my behalf, that I may be delivered from the disobedient in Judaea and that my ministry may be acceptable to the saints in Jerusalem, so that in the joy coming to you through the will of God I may rest with you” (Rom. 15:30-32).
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-bible-supports-praying-to-the-saints
I will pray for you so that Jesus will give you the graces to understand HIS WORD and believe.
I didn’t find your answers. They were simple questions.
Are you sure you an defend your faith beliefs?
If you can’t explain them to me, how are you going to explain them to Jesus when you die?
You best go back through your feed!
You have a lot of years to cover and it will take more than the 5 minutes since I posted it.
I see you can not answer simple questions.
I suspect you maybe confused about God’s Truths.
Done. Now you can't read your own FR feed.
Sure.....
Discredited? Really?
Google “Christian Churches near me” and wait for the results.
Yep. Discredited.
Again, taking Timothy out of context. If this Rapture is all secret and everything, why is this yelling and horns and angels and whatever mentioned for the Rapture. Read all the passages prior to your Rapture thesis.
YOUR COMMENT: And clearly you don’t based on what you posted. it is all made up with some verse references smeared on top to make it sound true.
THEN PROVE IT. Your opinions are just opinions.
If you read and understood the Bible, then you prove to yourself that your opinions are fiction:
Praying for each other is simply part of what Christians do. As we saw, in 1 Timothy 2:1–4, Paul strongly encouraged Christians to intercede for many different things, and that passage is by no means unique in his writings. Elsewhere Paul directly asks others to pray for him (Rom. 15:30–32, Eph. 6:18–20, Col. 4:3, 1 Thess. 5:25, 2 Thess. 3:1), and he assured them that he was praying for them as well (2 Thess. 1:11). Most fundamentally, Jesus himself required us to pray for others, and not only for those who asked us to do so (Matt. 5:44).
One such benefit is that the faith and devotion of the saints can support our own weaknesses and supply what is lacking in our own faith and devotion. Jesus regularly supplied for one person based on another person’s faith (e.g., Matt. 8:13, 15:28, 17:15–18; Mark 9:17–29; Luke 8:49–55). And it goes without saying that those in heaven, being free of the body and the distractions of this life, have even greater confidence in and devotion to God than anyone on earth.
Not only do those in heaven pray with us, they also pray for us. In the book of Revelation, we read: “[An] angel came and stood at the altar [in heaven] with a golden censer; and he was given much incense to mingle with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar before the throne; and the smoke of the incense rose with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God” (Rev. 8:3-4).
The simple fact is, as this passage (Rev 5:8) shows: The saints in heaven offer to God the prayers of the saints on earth.
I hope you find the path to the narrow gate and not take the easy path that leads to destruction. (MT 7:13)
And you'd be wrong yet again in these discussions.
Why Pray to Mary? Because Jesus has given us his Blessed Mother as our great spiritual mother (Rev.12:17), a heavenly advocate who intercedes for us.
Mary, despite the desperate attempts by Roman Catholicism to twist Scripture, was NEVER given to us at any point in history to be our advocate, mediatrix, auxilatrix, and all of the other false titles attributed to Mary by Roman Catholicism.
In fact, all of these false titles contradict Scripture which clearly indicates that Jesus is our only Advocate and Mediator.
And the Roman Catholic again wrongly argues that proximity to Heaven somehow increases the prayer of an individual. And the Roman Catholic wrongly argues that Mary is somehow reigning in Heaven.
And the Roman Catholic again argues incorrectly that we are to pray to individuals in Heaven. Which is kinda ironic in a way in that Roman Catholicism must admit the majority of their members are in Purgatory as there have only been a small number of people who have been authorized to pray to....per Roman Catholicism but not Scripture.
In this light, we see that the saints—as faithful disciples of Jesus—are his collaborators, not his competitors in interceding for us. Consequently, because Mary is the Mother of God and the disciple par excellence (see Luke 1:28, 38), we should not be surprised that she is our preeminent intercessor among the angels and saints.
This presumption that Mary is the preeminent intercessor again contradicts Scripture when Jesus noted that of all born of women there was none greater than John.
“Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist! Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. Matthew 11:11 NASB 95
The faith of the Church is that the saints are not really dead, but are fully alive in Jesus Christ, who is life itself (John 11:25; 14:6) and the bread of life who bestows life on all who eat his flesh and drink his blood (John 6:35, 48, 51, 53-56). The saints are alive in heaven because of the life they have received through their faith in Christ Jesus and through their eating of his body and blood.
Again, who are these people claimed by Roman Catholicism....have they made it out of Purgatory?? How does the Roman Catholic know if their mom or dad has been cleared out of Purgatory....or, that they even made it there in the first place.
The issues with Rome's understanding of John 6 have been discussed elsewhere and shown to be incorrect.
Paul wrote to the Romans: “I exhort you, brothers, through our Lord Jesus Christ and through the love of the Spirit, to strive with me in prayers to God on my behalf, that I may be delivered from the disobedient in Judaea and that my ministry may be acceptable to the saints in Jerusalem, so that in the joy coming to you through the will of God I may rest with you” (Rom. 15:30-32).
You do understand the difference in these two passages....right??
There was a fundamental change that happened between these two passages.
Know what it is?
Yes. On earth. No where are believers commanded to pray to anyone departed. Ever. If you claim it is, POST IT.
One such benefit is that the faith and devotion of the saints can support our own weaknesses and supply what is lacking in our own faith and devotion.
Nope. Never in Scripture. Ever. If you claim it is, POST IT.
Not only do those in heaven pray with us, they also pray for us.
Never in Scripture. Ever.
The angel in heaven is not praying with you or for you. You added that.
It is not secret to believers. They are in motion. Scripture doesn't say it is secret - other than the timing. For that we are to live knowing it is imminent.
Will unbelievers hear the trump? Will they know what it is? Scripture doesn't address that.
... don’t think I quoted Timothy. Will you direct me to that quote please?
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