Posted on 12/11/2023 11:35:17 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
Just a thought for this Christmas season. One of the greatest myths in all of Christendom is that Mary (Miriam) - the young Jewish girl of king David's line - who gave birth to the Savior of the world was sinless. I myself was taught this as a boy in the Catholic church and it wasn't till I was born again and started reading the Holy Scriptures for myself that I saw the true folly of such a myth. My dear friends, no greater lie could ever be told or fantasy ever believed! When this lie is embraced it derails the total ETERNAL movement of Almighty God and seeks to make the temporal, fallen and mortal the ETERNAL, RIGHTEOUS and DIVINE (Rom. 10:4). Mary herself testified that she rejoiced in Almighty God her Savior and one does not need a Savior if one is not a sinner (Rom. 3:23, 6:23, 10:2-4, Acts 4:12)! If we let the Holy Scriptures of Almighty God and Mary's own personal testimony speak to us then this great fantasy of many can NEVER stand. . Mary herself testified that she rejoiced in Almighty God her Savior and one does not need a Savior if one is not a sinner. . And Mary herself said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. For he hath regarded the low estate (to look with pity on her vile condition) of his handmaiden (slave): for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name. And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation (St. Luke 1:45-49).
Also the Holy Scriptures tell us that Mary offered a burnt offering and a sin offering for atonement after her purification (Leviticus 12:1-8). If Mary was not a fallen daughter fallen of Adam she would not have needed to offer an offering of sin.
And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord; (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord;) And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons (St. Luke 2:22-24).
My dear friends, if you are one who holds to the teaching of the Catholic church on Mary of Nazareth I would like to challenge you to believe Almighty God's Word and receive the biblical position of Mary and that of salvation (John 1:12, Acts 16:28-30, Romans 6:23, 10:2-4, 1 John 5:13). Mary the young maiden - by faith - trusted in Almighty God for her ETERNAL salvation as a young girl before her angelic visitation and little did she know that she would be the vessel of Almighty God to bring forth the perfect body for her Lamb and propitiation of her soul (John 1:29, John 3:16-17, 36, Rom. 10:2-4, 1 John 2:2, 4:10).
Mary the young maiden - by faith - trusted in Almighty God for her ETERNAL salvation as a young girl before her angelic visitation and little did she know that she would be the vessel of Almighty God to bring forth the perfect body for her Lamb and propitiation of her soul.
The first Christmas two thousand years ago - the young Jewish girl of the tribe of Judea - Mary; was trying to comprehend and take in the wonders of the last nine months (Matt. 1, Luke 2:24-80). Mary was highly favored above all women and was given the Divine assignment to prepare the body for the ETERNAL Spirit of the Son of Almighty God (Isa. 9:6-7, Micah 5:2, John 1:12, Heb. 10). The true servant's heart and faith of Mary are to be greatly commended and her exampled followed; but when individuals seek to change her testimony and her witness to fantastic fables they do her and her ETERNAL Savior a great disservice and dishonor.
Mary needed a Savior and believed as the Word of God clearly stated (Lev.). What about you? If Mary was here today she would point you to her God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Messiah to save your soul and give you ETERNAL LIFE (John 3:16-17). What will you do? Will you listen to Biblical Mary or traditional Mary?
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!!
That's extremely poor reasoning and displays an ignorance of the purpose the bulk of the New Testament was written to address. Almost every one of the NT epistles were written to address some problem or controversy happening in one local church community or other. Does that mean that the things they all agreed on were and didn't mention were not important or true? Of course not! To propose this is to engage in the logical fallacy of the of "the argument from silence." Mary was not mentioned because there clearly was no controversy about her to address.
It's somewhat like the stupid argument pro-homosexual people make: that Jesus didn't mention homosexuality in the Gospels so that means he wasn't against it. Well, he didn't mention it because it wasn't an issue among his original listeners. Same with Mary. The Church's Marian beliefs were never an issue until modern-day anti-Catholics made it an issue.
Do yourself a favor and read the resources that I provided above. At least you'll be able to have an informed grasp on what the Church actually believes and not rely on tired talking points that have been refuted time and again.
Well, how is the Book of Genesis authoritive, if it was not passed down to us by Tradition?
Do yourself a favor and read what the “New Catholic Encyclopedia” has to say.
I didn’t write it .. Catholics did.
I only pointed out the lack of mention of Mary because being the Mother of Jesus, you’d think that she would have been a big part of the story!?😏
Same here.
If she was a sinner, she sinned.
If she never sinned, regardless of how you all claim it happened, then she was not a sinner.
“Only the whole Bible is inspired.”
Who determines what writings is the Bible and what is not?
Absolute and unadulterated nonsense.
If God could do it for Mary being born of a sinful mother, He could just as easily have done it for Jesus, being born of a sinful mother.
If Jesus couldn't be born sinless from a human sinful mother, then Mary could not have either.
Jesus (God incarnate) could not come through a person with original sin or He would not be sinless.
Wrong. The sin nature is inherited through the father, not the mother.
The document in question is very clear that Mary is sinless because of the antecedent saving act of Jesus.
Correct me, if I'm wrong.
But where in the Bible is there a record of the Blessed Mother being baptized, whether by Her Son, by St. John the Baptist, or anyone else?
There is however a record of this when she spoke to the wine steward: Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye. [John 2:5]
A good sermon by Adrian Rogers re the Virgin Birth.
https://www.lwf.org/sermons/video/his-unequaled-birth-2374
Exactly, Sherlock! That's why Her conception was immaculate.
“those who sincerely want to know what the Church actually teaches on this topic.”
Why would people who hold the Bible to be the Final Authority care to know what some guys in a denomination think or teach? (I actually had to care in order to pass my exams in “Cults” class in Seminary.)
Rather, it's too hard, no impossible, for you to refute.
{shrug} Suit yourself. I’ll leave it to others to get beyond their prejudices and examine the facts with an open mind. Have a blessed evening.
“The Church’s Marian beliefs were never an issue until modern-day anti-Catholics made it an issue.”
To the contrary, the Immaculate Conception question was very controversial. Thomas Acquinus, for one, rejected it. I agree with you on why there was no need for Jesus to directly address homosexuality, however.
With the passage of many centuries, it’s easy to forget, or even not know, that this Marian doctrine was very divisive in the Catholic Church, and often bitterly so. I remember reading an account years back about how animosity between Franciscans and Dominicans, IIRC, led to a crime that resulted in at least one execution. God has given us definite answers on only some things, as Paul wrote, and even there there’s often still some disagreement of interpretation. Debating where He hasn’t provided clear knowledge, but it’s left to reason, will certainly cause division over an answer, if it mattered for Christians to have, that He would have given.
From the Catholic Encyclopedia :
“As the public acknowledgment of the feast of Sixtus IV did not prove sufficient to appease the conflict, he published in 1483 a constitution in which he punished with excommunication all those of either opinion who charged the opposite opinion with heresy.”
https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07674d.htm
Thanks for being Exhibit A. Maybe you had personal or emotional reasons for leaving the Church, but your understanding and grasp of true Church teaching, based on your comments over the years, prove that is not the case.
The woman was born because of sexual intercourse between a man and a woman. She inherited sin from her father. Anyone born of the seed of Adam is born in sin.
Here is the case, the Jetzer Affair.
For hundreds of years, CATHOLICS argued this issue between themselves , and often with even much more rancor.
https://www.biblicalcyclopedia.com/J/jetzer-johann.html
Why don't you now tell us why Our Lord Jesus Christ fasted in the desert for 40 days, if He was not sinless?
Do you'all even fast?
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