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Posted on 08/16/2023 6:39:10 AM PDT by zucchini bob

(2 Peter 1:20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. (Isaiah 28:10) For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: (Isaiah 28:13) But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.


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To: ebb tide
All anyone has to is read the Bible through and they will NEVER find a reference to “sola scriptura”.


You must LIKE to get all 71 of these references posted again and again!!



 
 

NIV Matthew 2:5
"In Bethlehem in Judea," they replied, "for this is what the prophet has written:

NIV Matthew 4:1-11
1. Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil.
2. After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry.
3. The tempter came to him and said, "If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread."
4. Jesus answered, "It is written: `Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.' "
5. Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple.
6. "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: "`He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.' "
7. Jesus answered him, "It is also written: `Do not put the Lord your God to the test.' "
8. Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.
9. "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."
10. Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: `Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.' "
11. Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.

NIV Matthew 11:10
This is the one about whom it is written: "`I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way before you.'

NIV Matthew 21:13
"It is written," he said to them, "`My house will be called a house of prayer,' but you are making it a `den of robbers.' "

NIV Matthew 26:24
The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him.

NIV Matthew 26:31
Then Jesus told them, "This very night you will all fall away on account of me, for it is written: "`I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.'

NIV Mark 7:6-7
6. He replied, "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: "`These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.
7. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.'

NIV Mark 9:11-13
11. And they asked him, "Why do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?"
12. Jesus replied, "To be sure, Elijah does come first, and restores all things. Why then is it written that the Son of Man must suffer much and be rejected?
13. But I tell you, Elijah has come, and they have done to him everything they wished, just as it is written about him."

NIV Mark 11:17
And as he taught them, he said, "Is it not written: "`My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations' ? But you have made it `a den of robbers.' "

NIV Mark 14:27
"You will all fall away," Jesus told them, "for it is written: "`I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered.'

NIV Luke 4:17-19
17. The scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:
18. "The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed,
19. to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."

NIV Luke 7:27
This is the one about whom it is written: "`I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way before you.'

NIV Luke 10:26
"What is written in the Law?" he replied. "How do you read it?"

NIV Luke 18:31-33
31. Jesus took the Twelve aside and told them, "We are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written by the prophets about the Son of Man will be fulfilled.
32. He will be handed over to the Gentiles. They will mock him, insult him, spit on him, flog him and kill him.
33. On the third day he will rise again."

NIV Luke 20:17-18
17. Jesus looked directly at them and asked, "Then what is the meaning of that which is written: "`The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone ' ?
18. Everyone who falls on that stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed."

NIV Luke 21:22
For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written.

NIV Luke 22:37
It is written: `And he was numbered with the transgressors' ; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment."

NIV Luke 24:44-47
44. He said to them, "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms."
45. Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures.
46. He told them, "This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day,
47. and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

NIV John 2:17
His disciples remembered that it is written: "Zeal for your house will consume me."
 
NIV John 6:31
Our forefathers ate the manna in the desert; as it is written: `He gave them bread from heaven to eat.' "

NIV John 6:45
It is written in the Prophets: `They will all be taught by God.' Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me.

NIV John 12:14-16
14. Jesus found a young donkey and sat upon it, as it is written,
15. "Do not be afraid, O Daughter of Zion; see, your king is coming, seated on a donkey's colt."
16. At first his disciples did not understand all this. Only after Jesus was glorified did they realize that these things had been written about him and that they had done these things to him.

NIV John 15:25
But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: `They hated me without reason.'

NIV John 20:30-31
30. Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book.
31. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

NIV Acts 1:20
"For," said Peter, "it is written in the book of Psalms, "`May his place be deserted; let there be no one to dwell in it,' and, "`May another take his place of leadership.'

NIV Acts 7:42
But God turned away and gave them over to the worship of the heavenly bodies. This agrees with what is written in the book of the prophets: "`Did you bring me sacrifices and offerings forty years in the desert, O house of Israel?

NIV Acts 13:29
When they had carried out all that was written about him, they took him down from the tree and laid him in a tomb.

NIV Acts 13:32-33
32. "We tell you the good news: What God promised our fathers
33. he has fulfilled for us, their children, by raising up Jesus. As it is written in the second Psalm: "`You are my Son; today I have become your Father. '

NIV Acts 15:15-18
15. The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:
16. "`After this I will return and rebuild David's fallen tent. Its ruins I will rebuild, and I will restore it,
17. that the remnant of men may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who bear my name, says the Lord, who does these things'
18. that have been known for ages.

NIV Acts 23:5
Paul replied, "Brothers, I did not realize that he was the high priest; for it is written: `Do not speak evil about the ruler of your people.' "

NIV Acts 24:14
However, I admit that I worship the God of our fathers as a follower of the Way, which they call a sect. I believe everything that agrees with the Law and that is written in the Prophets,
and I have the same hope in God as these men, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.

NIV Romans 1:17
For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: "The righteous will live by faith."

NIV Romans 2:24
As it is written: "God's name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you."

NIV Romans 3:4
Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: "So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge."

NIV Romans 3:10-12
10. As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;
11. there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God.
12. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one."

NIV Romans 4:17
As it is written: "I have made you a father of many nations." He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed--the God who gives life to the dead and calls things that are not as though they were.

NIV Romans 4:23-24
23. The words "it was credited to him" were written not for him alone,
24. but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness--for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead.

NIV Romans 8:36
As it is written: "For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered."

NIV Romans 9:13
Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."

NIV Romans 9:33
As it is written: "See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."

NIV Romans 10:15
And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!"

NIV Romans 11:7-10
7. What then? What Israel sought so earnestly it did not obtain, but the elect did. The others were hardened,
8. as it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes so that they could not see and ears so that they could not hear, to this very day."
9. And David says: "May their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a retribution for them.
10. May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see, and their backs be bent forever."

NIV Romans 11:26-27
26. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27. And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins."

NIV Romans 12:19
Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.

NIV Romans 14:11
It is written: "`As surely as I live,' says the Lord, `every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.'"

NIV Romans 15:3-4
3. For even Christ did not please himself but, as it is written: "The insults of those who insult you have fallen on me."
4. For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

NIV Romans 15:7-12
7. Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God.
8. For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God's truth, to confirm the promises made to the patriarchs
9. so that the Gentiles may glorify God for his mercy, as it is written: "Therefore I will praise you among the Gentiles; I will sing hymns to your name."
10. Again, it says, "Rejoice, O Gentiles, with his people."
11. And again, "Praise the Lord, all you Gentiles, and sing praises to him, all you peoples."
12. And again, Isaiah says, "The Root of Jesse will spring up, one who will arise to rule over the nations; the Gentiles will hope in him."

NIV Romans 15:21
Rather, as it is written: "Those who were not told about him will see, and those who have not heard will understand."

NIV 1 Corinthians 1:19
For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."

NIV 1 Corinthians 1:31
Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord."

NIV 1 Corinthians 2:9
However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him" --

NIV 1 Corinthians 3:19-20
19. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness" ;
20. and again, "The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile."

NIV 1 Corinthians 4:6
Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.

NIV 1 Corinthians 9:9
For it is written in the Law of Moses: "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain." Is it about oxen that God is concerned?

NIV 1 Corinthians 10:7
Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: "The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in pagan revelry."

NIV 1 Corinthians 10:11
These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come.

NIV 1 Corinthians 14:21
In the Law it is written: "Through men of strange tongues and through the lips of foreigners I will speak to this people, but even then they will not listen to me," says the Lord.

NIV 1 Corinthians 15:45
So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being" ; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

NIV 1 Corinthians 15:54
When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."

NIV 2 Corinthians 4:13-14
13. it is written: "I believed; therefore I have spoken." With that same spirit of faith we also believe and therefore speak,
14. because we know that the one who raised the Lord Jesus from the dead will also raise us with Jesus and present us with you in his presence.

NIV 2 Corinthians 8:15
as it is written: "He who gathered much did not have too much, and he who gathered little did not have too little."

NIV Galatians 3:10
All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."

NIV Galatians 3:13
Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

NIV Galatians 4:22
For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman.

NIV Galatians 4:27
For it is written: "Be glad, O barren woman, who bears no children; break forth and cry aloud, you who have no labor pains; because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband."

NIV Hebrews 10:7
Then I said, `Here I am-- it is written about me in the scroll-- I have come to do your will, O God.'"

NIV 1 Peter 1:15-16
But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; for it is written: "Be holy, because I am holy."



And now; for the Believers in Christ who may have wondered how much FAITH to place upon the Apostles written words...
 
NIV Luke 1:1-4
1. Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us,
2. just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word.
3. Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus,
4. so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.
 
NIV 2 Corinthians 1:13-14
13. For we do not write you anything you cannot read or understand. And I hope that,
14. as you have understood us in part, you will come to understand fully that you can boast of us just as we will boast of you in the day of the Lord Jesus.

NIV 2 Peter 3:16
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

NIV 1 John 2:12-14
12. I write to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name.
13. I write to you, fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning. I write to you young men, because you have overcome the evil one. I write to you, dear children, because you have known the Father.
14. I write to you, fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning. I write to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God lives in you, and you have overcome the evil one.


301 posted on 08/18/2023 5:22:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom; aMorePerfectUnion; boatbums; Roman_War_Criminal
Oh, but they are *different*, dontcha know?

Riiiiigggghhhhhttttt. You know, when I was in grade school, I was very scared of Hell. My fear of Hell seemed to overwhelm me. I worried about Hell, all the time. It really bothered me. I wanted to stay out of Hell. I thought I was leading a good life. I was avoiding mortal sins. When I got into high school, it got harder to avoid committing mortal sins. It got to a be so bad, you could use my mortal sin meter, as a fan. I was on the Roman hamster wheel of guilt. Then I came to faith in the TRUE Jesus. You have probably heard this before. I am not what I should be. I am not really even what I could be, but praise God, I am not what I used to be.

302 posted on 08/18/2023 5:26:15 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Elsie

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303 posted on 08/18/2023 5:28:30 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: ebb tide
Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle. [2 Thessalonians 2:14]

Put up or shut-up.

 



Up has now been put.

 

 

It is plain to anyone who can READ that OR equates 'tradition' with the WRITTEN words of Scripture; so they had BETTER match!

 

So much of Catholic tradition is NOT found in any EPISTLE, but in the alleged words of apparitions.

304 posted on 08/18/2023 5:28:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
Been there, done that and “sola scriptura” is never mentioned.

Gotta love your quotes!!


Can you show us just where any of THESE are found in the bible?


Litanies of Our Lady of Mount Carmel

 

BEFORE EACH OF THE FOLLOWING SALUTATIONS SAY:
"Our Lady of Mount Carmel,"
AND AFTERWARDS: "Pray for us Sinners."
 Queen of Heaven,
Victorious over Satan,
Most Obedient Daughter,
Most Pure Virgin,
Devoted Spouse,
Mother Most Tender,
Model of Perfect Virtue,
Sure Anchor of Hope,
Refuge in Sorrow,
Dispensatrix of the Gifts of God,
Bastion Against Our Enemies,
Our Aid in Danger,
The Way Leading to Jesus,
Our Light in Darkness,
Our Consolation at the Hour of Death,
Advocate of the Most Abandoned Sinners,
For the Hardened in Vice,
For Those who Offend Thy Divine Son,
For Those Who Neglect to Pray,
For Those Who are in Agony,
For Those Who Defer Their Conversion,
For Those Suffering in Purgatory,
For Those Who Do Not Know Thee.

 
Let Us Pray.

  

Our Lady of Mount Carmel, glorious Queen of Angels, channel of God's tenderest mercy to man,
refuge and advocate of sinners, with confidence I prostrate myself before thee, beseeching thee to obtain for me [Mention request silently].
In return I solemnly promise to have recourse to thee in all my trials, sufferings and temptations,
and I shall do all in my power to induce others to love and reverence thee and to invoke thee in all their needs.
I thank thee for the numberless blessings which I have received from thy mercy and powerful intercession.
Continue to be my shield in danger, my guide in life, and my consolation at the hour of death.
 
Amen.
 

305 posted on 08/18/2023 5:35:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
Why not be honest, Daniel, and admit you’re linking to your own bigoted website?

Aren't ALL links to SOMEONE's BIGOTED website in another's eyes??


ebb; you do stay on point though: attack the messenger instead of the message.

306 posted on 08/18/2023 5:38:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
My, how you prots go such lengths to twist scripture to support such lies.

Don't you have a dead pope to dig up and chop off his fingers?

307 posted on 08/18/2023 5:39:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide

Oh, what red herrings are drug across the path!


308 posted on 08/18/2023 5:40:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
Typical cherry-picker, ignoring some scripture when it doesn’t fit Luther’s lies.

Call no man father; messenger killer.

309 posted on 08/18/2023 5:41:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
He referred to Him quite often as Father. So He must have had a Mother.

In all due respect, that doesn't logically follow. It would be anthropomorphizing God (the Father and the Son)...treating Them like humans...and, of course, They aren't.

The Father is eternal--there was always a time when He existed. And the same is true for the Son.

Since we cannot comprehend eternity, I think we would just have to conclude that whatever the Father and the Son mean by those names and that father-son relationship is just infinitely above our capacity to understand.

310 posted on 08/18/2023 5:41:28 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: MNDude; zucchini bob; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; BDParrish; fishtank; boatbums; Luircin; ..
This! Remember about 7 years ago RN_Mom daily threw such fireballs in Freerepublic.com? There were daily debates like this. Jim Robinson banned RN Mom.

Yes, due to a certain poster who went to excess ("The Catholic bashing here got out of hand"), and thus

Notice: The daily sport of posting Catholic bashing threads on FR stops today. Thanks.July 19, 2014 | Jim Robinson

The posting was to excess, though such can be being provoked by Catholic posting the time. I think the push to protect Caths was mainly due to the whining of a certain po$ter whom we see little from now.

And which RCs saw/see as favoring them, who much use FR as a informational and apologetical mouthpiece, though since that time Jim has pulled some provocative RC threads, and he at least opined that Francis "is wrong about a lot of things.would do well to stick to his knitting."

What constitutes "Catholic bashing" was purposely left somewhat ambiguous, but (in seeking to understand the position) I see that he has stated,

Participants on “open” threads on the Religion Forum are given lots of leeway to debate, criticize—even ridicule things they don’t believe (within reason and as long as they don’t make it personal). Please refer to the Religion Forum rules: http://www.freerepublic.com/~religionmoderator/ You’ve got to have a thick skin on open debate threads on that forum. I don’t so I avoid the place as much as possible. And I don’t belong to any organized religion.

And Jim stated, that " "I am a Protestant, ... The daily attack threads against Catholics was getting to be way out of bounds. Day after day, the same posters posting the same kind of garbage. It was sickening to me and I’m not Catholic. I’ve put a stop to it. If I think daily attack threads against protestants is getting out of hand I’ll address it. Right ow I don’t see it as a problem.

And,

I’ve always been up front about it. FR is pro-God. That is the one true Judeo-Christian God of the Holy Bible. We will worship none other. And no false gospel shall be taught here as Truth.

And he opposed Mormonism (which I surmise seems once used FR to promote itself), stating that Free Republic is a pro-God site. The one and only true Judeo-Christian God as taught to us by KJV with no additional editing or books of fiction. I have zero faith in Joseph Smith or his so-called Mormon religion and do not want it taught on FR as gospel. Joe Smith was a false prophet and his book is false gospel (look it up in KJV). Those who cannot live with that are certainly free to post elsewhere.

And stated "Mormons should post elsewhere."

But broadly,

stated that Catholics, Protestants, Evangelicals, Jews, etc, are not the enemy. ALL conservative pro-life, pro-family pro-America believers in our one true Judeo-Christian God are our guests, friends and allies in this effort, so please don't attack your allies! Attacks on religion are not going to convert anyone. Please save your ammunition for the enemy.

And

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc.
Hope this helps to at least clarify.
311 posted on 08/18/2023 5:41:38 AM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
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To: ebb tide
Please also show us ...

Place your seeing eye dog next to the monitor screen...

312 posted on 08/18/2023 5:42:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
...in the Traditional Latin Mass:

?

It looks ENGLISH to me!

313 posted on 08/18/2023 5:43:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manananggal

Must be where the Libs get their gender fluid folks from!

314 posted on 08/18/2023 5:46:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
Why not be honest, Daniel, and admit you’re linking to your own bigoted website?

Why not be honest, ebb tide, and admit that rather than being a secret I am very upfront about that being my site, as stated right at the top of my FR home page," As one should be able to tell from my home page, I am an evangelical Christian... As for "bigoted," that is in the eye of the beholder, in this case a defender of an elitists, self-proclaimed one true church, though in your case, it seems you have no living pope, and it is rather secret where the valid Vatican leadership is to be found.

315 posted on 08/18/2023 5:50:17 AM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
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To: daniel1212
What constitutes "Catholic bashing" was purposely left somewhat ambiguous,

My posting of Mary/Joseph sex life REALLY torqued off some Catholics!

I got time outs due to posting obvious FACTS (and their implications) from the Bible.

316 posted on 08/18/2023 5:50:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: zucchini bob; Karliner
(2 Peter 1:20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Actually, that verse is one that Catholics also parrot in attempting to argue against Biblical reproof of their church, even though TradCaths themselves subject the teaching of modern Rome to their interpretation.

However, the use of 2 Peter 1:20 to censure non-official interpretations is another example of Catholics abusing Scripture, compelling it to be its servant in defending their source of security, for incontext (is king), that verse does not refer to interpretation of Scripture, but refers to how prophecy was given, that it was not being the product of one's own private understanding, for indeed, "Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow." (1 Peter 1:10-11)

As such, it simply does not refer to reading and understanding Scripture, which the Lord actually expected and called souls to "Search the scriptures" (John 5:39), and reproved them for"not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God." (Matthew 22:29)

However, it remains true that, as substantiated, in Catholicism a pious, devout, holy. Spirit-filled virtuous instrument of God is typically exalted far, far , far "above that which is written," (contra 1 Co. 4:6) ascribing unto her attributes, glory and titles that are never given to any created beings except by pagans, even unto being worshiped by some, despite the semantical contortions (as if only one word can denote worship) engaged in trying to deny it, and akin to the what Israel ended up doing toward the brasen serpent God instrumentally used (Numbers 21:8; 2 Kings 18:4) and the ephod of Gideon. (Judges 8:27)

One would have a hard time in Bible times explaining kneeling before a statue and praising the entity it represented in the unseen world, even with adulation, attributes, glory and titles never given in Scripture to created beings (except to false gods), including having the uniquely Divine power glory to hear and respond to virtually infinite numbers of prayers addressed to them, and beseeching such for Heavenly help, and making offerings to them. Which would constitute worship in Scripture, yet Catholics imagine by playing word games they avoid crossing the invisible line between mere "veneration" and worship.

Instead they should do what Mary and every believer in every prayer to Heaven did (and I should do more of), which was to pray directly to the Lord, not secretaries. But they must truly become born again for that.

Moses, put down those rocks! I was only engaging in hyper dulia, not adoring her. Can't you tell the difference?

Instead Caths basically say,

As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken unto thee. But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes... (Jeremiah 44:16-17)

317 posted on 08/18/2023 5:52:10 AM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
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To: Elsie

Well, the Queen of Heaven is in the Bible (Jeremiah 44:17). But, of course, it refers not to Mary, but to a demon/goddess (thought to be Astarte, Semiramis, or one of the other names of the most powerful demon goddess).


318 posted on 08/18/2023 5:52:46 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Elsie; metmom; aMorePerfectUnion; boatbums; Roman_War_Criminal
So much of Catholic tradition is NOT found in any EPISTLE, but in the alleged words of apparitions.

You mean like at Fatima? I have no doubt those people saw something, but whatever they saw, was demon manifestations. Their goal, was deception, kind of like it is today. If only someone would have asked the apparition, did Jesus Christ come in the flesh? It might have turned out differently. 😁

319 posted on 08/18/2023 5:56:19 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: ebb tide
My, how you prots go such lengths to twist scripture to support such lies.

The irony considering the lengths you all Catholics go to to justify calling your priests *Father* in direct, blatant disobedience to the clear, concise, and unequivocal command of Jesus to call no religious leader by the title of *Father*.

320 posted on 08/18/2023 6:03:20 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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