God himself said it in not so many words when He said to the Prophet Joseph “This is my beloved Son, hear him”.

...and you are not so naive as to believe the gold plates would last ten minutes were they to have been discovered in Joseph’s possession. Speaking of minutia, wouldn’t you say the words translated would be far more important than the plates themselves. They still exist they are in the possession of those who will preserve them for your eventual viewing should you so desire.

As to unicorn parts. You want it your way. I think God had a few things to say about that idea as well. Not so?

I’d also say it would be far better to be viewing them knowing them to be what was given to the Prophet Joseph to preserve for a time, than viewing knowing you chose not to believe. All will be revealed when we are privileged to inhabit the new earth and new heaven so there would be no need to deceive.

Good find. See how easy that was.

Why would I need to look?

It’s those with limited understanding who ought to be looking, but thanks again for posting.

Your understanding and mine of the word Damned in context is not available and so I would categorize it as minutia. God’s view of damned and our view I would say is more than likely divergent to a large degree.

We know from section 76 of the D&C that all except for a very few will be assigned a kingdom of Glory the least of which will be unfathomable in it’s magnificence to man at present. Considering the fact that those unrepentant souls who die in their sins will need to suffer for them as if there were no Redeemer before the judgement day. If my understanding is correct.

The evidence is in your hands, but you choose to ignore it so I’m not going to do your job.

I suggest a look at the Ten Commandments, also the Title Page, the Introduction to the Book of Mormon, and the last sentence in the Testimony of Three Witnesses where the relationship of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is explained at least to the understanding of Church members.

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That's NOT 'evidence', only an address to a haystack where any claimed 'evidence' can allegedly be found.

Produce the evidence, and we can discuss it like gentlemen.

I won’t, knowing evangelicals and Catholics have much in common believing in the same deity that is the Father of their confusion doctrinally.

I guess that suggesting the FATHER has a physical body like the SON is NOT confusing.

The bedrock Scripture of TCOJCOLDS - the KJV of the bible - states otherwise:

24 ^aGod is a ^bSpirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in ^ctruth.

John 4 (churchofjesuschrist.org)

Why get bogged down in minutia?

WHAT!?!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith_Translation_of_the_Bible

SOME folks sure think the IV is SCRIPTURE!

https://www.centerplace.org/hs/iv/InspiredVersionBible.pdf

But, giving credit where it is due, these folks managed - somehow - to escape the murderous hoards that were tracking down Mormons, causing them to flee West.

Failing to obey BY, they stayed behind and prospered, keeping all the property and forming the RLDS bunch (now the CoC).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_of_Christ

...and you are not so naive as to believe the gold plates would last ten minutes were they to have been discovered in Joseph’s possession.

Heck, I'm not even so naive that I believe the gold plates existed at all!

Speaking of minutia, wouldn’t you say the words translated would be far more important than the plates themselves.

I sure would!!

But surely the original impressions in gold are worth SOMETHING; right??

The "Caractors" are the only tangible evidence in existence related to Smith's story.

No gold plates, no brass plates, no peep stones, no Urim and Thummim...

only these "Caractors," not a single one of which is in the purported languages.

Smith's translation of the Caractors. According to Martin Harris (Joseph Smith - History, 1:64), "I went to the city of New York, and presented the characters which had been translated, with the translation thereof, to Professor Charles Anthon, a gentleman celebrated for his literary attainments. Professor Anthon stated that the translation was correct, more so than any he had before seen translated from the Egyptian. I then showed him those which were not yet translated,* and he said they were Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac, and Arabic; and he said they were true characters."

Speak right up now in all truthfulness. Isn't it revealing how Smith started out making a stab at creating believable "caractors" but quckly gave up and produced nothing but squiggles, ending up wih a series of nothing more than crude little scribbles? Yet Professor Anthon supposedly translated them!

*Harris must have had two or three pieces of paper with him—one with characters and a translation of them (on the same paper or a separate one) and one with untranslated characters—quite likely the "Caractors." Some Mormon "scholars" have gone out on a limb, sawed it off, and knocked themselves out trying to translate from these true Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac, and Arabic characters a segment that would correspond with a verse from 1 Nephi.

Modern-day experts in Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac, and Arabic. In 1829, any knowledge of these languages possessed by U.S. scholars would have been rudimentary at best. Expertise in them has vastly improved since then. So go ahead, do it. Get any modern expert in these languages to identify which of these "Caractors" are Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac and Arabic. Better still, accept the claim of Mormon apologists that Anthon did indeed so testify and that his appraisal of the Caractors was correct. (Op. cit, pp. 73-75)

Save your money! Samples of Assyriac/Aramaic and Arabic writing:

What say you? Which of Smith's "Caractors" resemble the Assyriac and Arabic ones? No need to pay experts for their analysis. A child could accurately check this out. These writing systems have remained constant for well over 3000 years.

Why would I need to look?

Indeed.

You go get another bear while I skin this one.

Your understanding and mine of the word Damned in context is not available and so I would categorize it as minutia.

I doubt that BY would accept your explanation that he wasn't really clear in what he was meaning...

In LDS theology the voice of warning has four components:

(1) deity, who originates the message;
(2) the message, which is the gospel of Jesus Christ;
(3) an authorized messenger, who delivers the message; and
(4) mankind, to whom the message is delivered.
"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;
and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,
and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.
Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Voice_of_Warning

Right! I trust him, ha ha!
LEX

[There is a trend if not a deliberate effort to remove any divinity from Christ.Otherwise known as the Arian Heresy.

Thanks

With the death of the Apostles the Priesthood and the keys of that authority were lost.

Says who?

Be careful Elsie, You are spouting Catholic teaching. Sounds like you are quoting from the Catechism.

Says who?

He was quoting someone else there (fwiw)

Can you afford to be a sceptic when the evidence is in front of your eyes.

...or have you bothered to read?

...or have you bothered to read?

What; exactly; is it that you think I should read?

Preface to the Book of Mormon 1830 Ed.

PREFACE.
TO THE READER—
As many false reports have been circulated respecting the following work, and also many unlawful measures taken by the evil designing persons to destroy me, and also the work, I would inform you that I translated, by the gift and power of God, and caused to be written, one hundred and sixteen pages, the which I took from the Book of Lehi, which was an account abridged from the plates of Lehi, by the hand of Mormon; which said account, some person or persons have stolen and kept from me, notwithstanding my utmost exertions to recover it again—and being commanded of the Lord that I should not translate the same over again, for Satan had put it into their hearts to tempt the Lord their God, by altering the words, that they did read contrary from that which I translated and caused to be written; and if I should bring forth the same words again, or, in other words, if I should translate the same over again, they would publish that which they had stolen, and Satan would stir up the hearts of this generation, that they might not receive this work: but behold, the Lord said unto me, I will not suffer that Satan shall accomplish his evil design in this thing: therefore thou shalt translate from the plates of Nephi, until ye come to that which ye have translated, which ye have retained; and behold ye shall publish it as the record of Nephi; and thus I will confound those who have altered my words. I will not suffer that they shall destroy my work; yea, I will shew unto them that my wisdom is greater than the cunning of the Devil. Wherefore, to be obedient unto the commandments of God, I have, through his grace and mercy, accomplished that which he hath commanded me respecting this thing. I would also inform you that the plates of which hath been spoken, were found in the township of Manchester, Ontario county, New-York.
THE AUTHOR.

AUTHOR!!!

It only took six years to try to cover THIS up!

He just won’t admit the truth: the show is low budget and the special effects for such a scene would be too expensive.