Posted on 08/29/2020 3:46:15 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
One would think, that going by the constant rhetoric of the Arab states over the past 7 decades since the rebirth of the nation of Israel, that Arabs would be leading the way in the final siege and invasion of Israel.
Ezekiel did not see the Arabs in this vision. One could say that Libya perhaps could be considered an Arab State, but we must remember that North Africa is Berber. Libya has been Islamized and Arabized, but the Berbers had their own unique people and culture centuries before Arabs invaded them under Mohammed.
Where are the Arabs? Where are the Saudis, the custodians of Mecca and Medina and the guardians of Sunni Islam’s most radical sect, the Wahhabi’s? Where are the Iraqi’s the Egyptians, the Syrians and Lebanese? Why aren’t Israel’s most implacable foes represented in Ezekiel’s vision of the invading army?
Arabs do show up in this particular chapter of Prophecy, but not to invade and plunder Israel, but rather to raise a lame objection to the invading force somewhere( My guess is at the UN). They do this with the “Merchants of Tarshish and the young lions thereof”.
Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil? (Ezekiel 38:13)
Sheba and Dedan are descendants of Ishmael, they are Arabs of the Arabian peninsula. Tarshish was the westernmost place known to the people of Ezekiel’s day. Note that it calls them “The Merchants” and not the Government of Tarshish. Tarshish would have been a trading post in Spain and there was one in Britain, as well as a tin mining center.
This is stunningly modern; Ezekiel saw the Arabs and the Western powers lodging an ineffective objection to the great invasion together.
The Arabs have long been the implacable foes of Israel and her protectors. Arab nations have poured incalculable amounts of money into organized terrorism, propaganda which is antisemitic and anti western, and the radicalization of Mosques around the world. They hate and fear Israel so completely that they will not allow anyone on Arab soil who has an Israeli stamp on their passport.
Remember, it is a vital tenet of Islam that the Muslims must annihilate the Jews before the last day. The very continued existence of the Jewish State is an affront to Islam and considered a reproach on the Muslim World. In fact the Arab designation for the day Israel became a nation is “Al Naqba”, that is “The Disaster”.
Five times since May 1948, Arab armies have attacked Israel, invaded her, with overwhelming amounts of men, Tanks, Airpower, the element of surprise, and seemingly flawless battle plans. Five times they have been utterly defeated, and even routed. Arab culture is “Shame/Honor ” culture. It has been psychologically crushing for Arabs to be defeated in this fashion, before the whole world.
But this is not why the Arab armies are not going to participate in the Islamic invasion of Israel.
The Arab world, as much as it hates Israel, has a deeper hatred and fear. They are ‘Sunni’ and Sunnis compose 80 percent of the Muslim world. But Iran is Shiite, and the Arabs are terrified of Iran, even more than they hate Israel. Iran represents an existential threat to the Arab world. Iranians have Nuclear power, they are clever and cunning and the Iranians have an Eschatology that welcomes a complete Apocalypse.
Iran has a grand strategy also, which involves uniting Shiites in a geographical crescent, from Iran, into the South of Iraq, and into Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and Qatar. There are enough Shiites in all of these nations to present a problem to the Arabs. Yemeni Tribes are involved in a bloody war with the Saudis, and Hezbollah, the so called “Party of God” has long had its tentacles in Lebanon, and Syria and has choked the life out of each of these nations.
The Arabs are terrified of this.
In very recent times the spectacle that would hav been unthinkable has occurred, of Arab princes and diplomats flying into Israel and vice versa. Furthermore, the recent Peace treaty that the Trump administration brokered with the United Arab Emirates and Israel, is actually tempting the rest of the Arab world to enter into formal negotiations with Israel, and eventually a peace. Whether or not it goes that far is hard to tell, but certainly the direction is in line with what Ezekiel saw, that the Arabs are strangely absent from the invading force.
The Arabs are also motivated by fear of Turkey.
Though Turkey is mostly Sunni, she has been working with Iran recently, and it is Erdogan’s stated goal to unite all of the Muslim world to take Jerusalem. Both Turkey and Iran condemned the UAE /Israel peace treaty in the strongest terms,
Iran strongly condemned Friday an agreement between Israel and the United Arab Emirates to normalize ties, blasting it as an act of “strategic stupidity” that will only strengthen the Tehran-backed “axis of resistance.”
Meanwhile Turkey, itself once a strong Muslim ally of Israel but now a geopolitical foe under President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, said history “will not forget and never forgive” the UAE. Turkey: History Won’t Forgive..
Turkey is a rival to the Saudis, and longs to be the dominant player again in the Muslim World, as she was in the days of the Caliphate. The Saudis and the rest of the Arab State are concerned about the sudden rise and aggression of Turkey, and are seeking alliances with the Trump administration and Israel for sheer survivals sake.
Thus the uncanny alliances which Ezekiel had seen are taking shape and the stage is being set for Israel’s final conflict and soon deliverance!
Perhaps it has more to do with the fact that whenever Arab armies tangle with the Israelis they get whooped. That’s why they switched to slaughtering defenseless women and children.
Uh, Persia (Iran) is one of the main attackers of Israel (Ezeikiel 38:5).
The Arabs and the Worldwide Islamic Supremacy will be very much involved in this attack on Israel which attack I believe begins Daniel’s 70th week - the unimaginably horrific seven-year tribulation.
Ezekiel 38-39 is probably the white horse of Revelation 6:2 ridden by a “conqueror” that launches the seven-year tribulation period. My guess is this attack triggers an entire world at war typified by all four horses of the Apocalypse.
Worldwide Islamic Supremacy will be at the very center of this horrifying seven-year Wrath of the Lamb.
Thanks Jim, but Persians are not Arabs, neither are Turks and black Africans. You are right about Islam though/
The Bible was written before jet planes and nuclear weapons
These idiot Arabs learned a couple lessons there and 67 and 73
And Turkey?
Well, I guess your going to have to define what you mean by “Arabs”. Most of us think that the Middle East Muslims are Arabs. That would definitely include Iran.
Not sure. You’d have to trace the lineage of the nations mentioned in Ez 38.
Plenty of missies taking over EU countries that will oppose Israel and come against them.
Muzzies- autocorrect!
Iranians are Persians. An Arab is a person whose language is Arabic, an important language of the Middle East, or who comes from an Arabic-speaking country, esp. in the Middle East (Definition of Arab from the Cambridge Academic Content Dictionary © Cambridge University Press)
This is the seventh in a series Dave, I discussed Turkey in earlier sessions, they are definitely in Ezekiel 38.
Isn’t Put (Libya) a Member state of the Arab League?
I don’t know. I think most peole think of Arabs as the basic natives of the Middle East including Iran.
But I also think the idea of “Arabs” has been suborned to the real issue of the Middle East and the world - that of Islam which I believe is driven by the very spirit of antichrist.
I think one of the main points here is that the attack on Israel in Ez. 38-39 is lead by the darkest and most dangerous of the Islamic counties - Iran who has declared war on Israel (and America).
I think you’re missing the point when your talk about “Arabs” not participating in this attack on Israel which I believe launches WWIII. The issue today is the emergence of Worldwide Islamic Supremacy and although many may think it is going away, it is not, until they’re wiped out in Armageddon.
Yes, and I talked about the fact that Libya may be an exception to what I am saying. My point is that there are Saudi Arabs, Omani Arabs,and United Arab Emirates, the classic Arab world is strangely absent from this invasion.The classsicly undrestood”Arab World” is simply not listed in Ezekiel 38.Thats all .thanks for the input
I am only trying to give an exposition of a specific prophecy, so other than define the nations predicted, there really is no point to miss. The nations listed in Ezekiel 38 all real peoples. A Turk or aPersian would take exception to being called an Arab.What they have in commons Islam. But even in Islam there are two major schools of thought who hate each other, Sunni and Shiite.
According to you, what nations are “Arab”?
I think more to the point is these middle easterners are mainly sons of Ishmael who continue to hate Israel as Ismael hated and mocked Isaac.
Are you saying the citizens of Iran are not sons of Ishmael? If so, I think you are wrong.
What we Westerners may call “Arabs” are more of the mind of the militant desert dweller guy played by Anthony Quinn in Lawrence of Arabia who talks about his tribe and other tribes and says he doesn’t know what an “Arab” is becsue they’re all basically against each other - Sons of Ishmael - “wild donkeys”.
Israel: “between the devil and the deep blue sea” - literally.
I pray for Israel.
They gave us the lord. No wonder the world despises them.
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