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Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More
One Peter Five ^ | August 5, 2019 | Timothy Flanders

Posted on 08/07/2019 3:20:08 PM PDT by ebb tide

Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More

Marian devotion is the cure for heresy and the healing of all heretics. We must turn to her for refuge from the heretical depravity now consuming the Church. Marian devotion is the destruction of error, the fount of humility, and a potent safeguard for orthodox faith.

Mary Is the Destroyer of All Heresies

In True Devotion to Mary, St. Louis de Montfort writes:

The most infallible and indubitable sign by which we may distinguish a heretic, a man of bad doctrine, a reprobate, from one of the predestinate, is that the heretic and the reprobate have nothing but contempt and indifference for our Blessed Lady, endeavoring by their words and examples to diminish the veneration and love of her. (30)

In the Tract for the Mass Salve Sancta Parens, the Church sings, “Rejoice, O Virgin Mary, thou alone hast destroyed all heresies.” From this, Pope St. Pius X invoked her as “Destroyer of Heresies” in Pascendi 58. And again, it was in the context of St. Dominic’s war against heresy that the Holy Rosary, Mary’s psalter, was revealed.

Thus, it is manifest that Our Lady holds a special place in the relationship of Holy Church with heresy and heretics. Why is this? It is because the root cause of heresy is not anger, lust, or sloth, but pride. A formal heretic pridefully and obstinately rejects the authority of the Church and the authority of the Fathers. His whole opinion hinges on an imaginary antiquarianism created by his pride. And it is against the sin of pride that Our Lady most perfectly shows her power. This is why St. Louis says in another place:

[Satan] fears her not only more than all Angels and men, but in some sense more than God Himself … because Satan, being proud, suffers infinitely more from being beaten and punished by a little and humble handmaid of God, and her humility humbles him more than the Divine power. (True Devotion, 52)

Demons and heretics fear her because she threatens to humble them. The latter impiously attack her under the pretense that they are safeguarding the honor due to God. In reality, they know that Mary will destroy their prideful opinions. “Humility is an abomination to the proud ” (Ecclus. 13:24).

How Mary Humbles the Proud

When the Holy Spirit exalted Mary by the mouth of St. Elizabeth, Mary said:

He hath shewed might in his arm: he hath scattered the proud in the conceit of their heart. He hath put down the mighty from their seat and hath exalted the humble. (Lk. 1:51)

Devotion to Mary brings humility to the soul. Just as St. John heard her voice and leaped for joy, and St. Elizabeth immediately humbled herself, saying “Who am I that the mother of my Lord should come to me?” (Lk. 1:43), we too know this humility when we exalt Mary.

Mary humbles us because God wills that Jesus Christ be manifested to the world through her. According to nature, any man is her equal. According to grace and merit, she is “more honorable than the cherubim, and beyond compare more glorious than the Seraphim” [1]. In Mary, our humility is truly tested because she is a human, not God.

Humility toward God is presumed by all, and heretics falsely think themselves humble because they say they submit to God. But their pride is revealed when they refuse to submit to man — both legitimate authority and the sayings of the wise. “The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that is wise hearkeneth unto counsels” (Prov. 12:15).

A humble man may even debase himself before wicked men, as our Lord did.  But heretics have no humility toward men. In reality, heretics are attempting to impose their private opinion on all authorities. They have no humility toward any human but are consumed in their own selves. As the history of Protestantism has shown, it is easy to feign humility toward God while exalting yourself over every man. This is the way of all the heretics.

One who is humble toward Mary will be humble toward authority. Mary especially checks the pride of heretics by proclaiming that they cannot have their own private, “personal Jesus,” since our Lord has forever bound Himself to His mother by His incarnation. In the same way that the Incarnation is the foundation of our redemption — without which there can be no Passion or Resurrection — the human person of Jesus Christ cannot exist without the person of Mary [2]. As I have written in another place, true union with Christ will result in love of Mary as our mother, who was also the first natural cause of His appearance to the world.

Marian Devotion is a test for orthodoxy

Since Marian Devotion is the fount of humility, it becomes a powerful test for orthodoxy. For example, when St. John Vianney’s lack of intelligence presented a barrier to his ordination, he was evaluated like this:

The vicar-general asked the superior of the seminary: ‘Is young Vianney pious? Is he devoted to the Blessed Virgin?’ The authorities were able to assure him fully upon these points. ‘Then,’ said the vicar-general, ‘I will receive him. Divine grace will do the rest.’ [3]

And so the Church ordained the future patron of parish priests. Sometimes it is as simple as asking if a man has Marian devotion. If a man is truly devoted to our Lady, he can be no heretic. St. Louis again:

“If you follow her,” says St. Bernard, “you cannot wander from the road.” Fear not, therefore, that a true child of Mary can be deceived by the evil one, or fall into any formal heresy. There where the guidance of Mary is, neither the evil spirit with his illusions, nor the heretics with their subtleties, can ever come — Ipsa tenente, non corruis. (True Devotion, 209) [4]

Thus, it is unsurprising that when we read through Building a Bridge by James Martin, S.J., a book purported to be about mercy and compassion, not a single page mentions the Mother of mercy and compassion. In fact, on page 130, he even erroneously asserts that at the Resurrection, Mary Magdalene was the first Christian, implicitly denying our Lady and the entire tradition of her Saturday memorial in which her sole faithfulness is commemorated. The examples of his warped or deficient Marian piety are only too easy to find [5].

But it is even more disturbing when we read how the Rhine group at Vatican II successfully suppressed the document on the Mother of God, relegating it, by a narrow vote, to the final section in Lumen Gentium (against the protests from Eastern Catholic bishops and others) [6]. When their efforts to suppress Marian devotion were opposed by Paul VI (to his credit), the time became known to them as “Black Week” [7]. Perhaps more alarming, Ratzinger himself admits that his Marian piety was weak in Last Testament and seems to imply the false dichotomy that Marian piety is not Christocentric [8]. Without succumbing to the sin of rash judgment, it is nevertheless suggestive that this lack of Marian piety correlates with an apparent hubris on the part of many Vatican II “reformers.”

Whatever the true state of these and other men with an apparent reluctance to love and honor their own mother, we can be certain that our Blessed Lady is a sure refuge from heresy. As Fr. Ripperger has stated, without a strong intellectual formation, everyone becomes a Modernist in our corrupt society. That is why we must cling to Our Lady for refuge from heretics and heresy in our time.

True devotion to Mary keeps us safe from the excesses of pride. Even more in our day, let us consider: she stood firm, though she witnessed the Passion and death of our Lord. We also must stand firm, even as we are witnessing the passion and death of the Church. Moreover, it seems clear from her frequent apparitions since the 19th century that Our Lord has purposed His mother for a special role in resolving this crisis. Let us pray our daily rosary and make the First Saturdays. Let us abide with Our Lady in the Passion of the Church and never lose hope for the Glorious Resurrection.


[1] Eastern Catholic Marian antiphon

[2] So too the mediation of the Sacraments — through another human — we receive our Lord.

[3] The Life of Saint John Vianney, The Curé of Ars, ch. 1

[4] It should be noted that Marian devotion is not an infallible test for orthodoxy, but merely a general rule against which there can be significant exceptions. Some Protestants, although material heretics, are in fact humble, and some Catholics are orthodox with little or no Marian piety. However, no man can be truly devoted to Our Lady and be a heretic. Moreover, formal heresy is defined as an error in the intellect and an obstinate will. It is particularly the latter from which Mary keeps us safe.

[5] I refuse to expose the reader to any further abuse of Our Lady from James Martin. Suffice it to say I have searched in vain for a substantial treatment or promotion of Marian devotion from Martin, and he admits in My Life with the Saints, p. 345ff., that his Marian devotion, which was shallow in his youth, was formed by the Jesuits as an imitation model, not the traditional, primarily mediatrix role. If his Marian devotion does go beyond sentimentality, let him publicly and explicitly disavow every heresy of which he is accused.

[6] See Rev. Ralph Wiltgen, The Rhine Flows into the Tiber (Augustine, 1979), 90ff.

[7] See Ibid., 234ff. The Rhine group was opposing Paul VI’s honoring of our Lady as “Mother of the Church” as well as his actions regarding collegiality, religious liberty, and ecumenism.

[8] See Benedict XVI, Last Testament, trans. Jacob Phillips (Bloomsbury, 2016), 70ff. As I have read more into Ratzinger, despite his obvious strengths, more of his theology has concerned me. This point was another red flag


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To: ealgeone

The reasoning of these RCs is insane.

They think if they tar Martin Luther enough, it will somehow make God’s Word disappear.


901 posted on 08/12/2019 10:17:37 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin

The meaning in God’s Word is spiritually discerned, such that a dead soul/spirit cannot discern the Truth that The Word of God declares.


902 posted on 08/12/2019 10:20:20 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Actually, CHRISTIANS, understand that every single soul who comes to Christ alone for salvation is both saved and a saint. It has nothing to do with merit. It is all grace.

This is true, with "saint" being manifestly used for believers in general:

Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints [qâdôsh=sacred] yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight. (Job 15:15)

They envied Moses also in the camp, and Aaron the saint of the Lord. (Psalms 106:16)

Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called saints [hagios=holy], with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: (1 Corinthians 1:2)

To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. (Romans 1:7)

Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia: (2 Corinthians 1:1)

Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; (Ephesians 2:19)

However, if we use capitalization in "Saint" it can infer emphasis, as a eminent status above others.

903 posted on 08/12/2019 11:59:17 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: ealgeone

The poor man’s argument literally is that we should be Catholic because Luther wrote things that weren’t as bad as what Catholics were already doing.

It’s like saying that beer is bad for you so we should start drinking bleach instead.

I’m pretty sure Luther never hosted an auto-da-fe.


905 posted on 08/12/2019 2:57:45 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin

Or an inquisition


906 posted on 08/12/2019 5:23:54 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD
To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord

The text does NOT say that.

Paul states he'd RATHER be out of the body and with the Lord.

In no way does it infer what you've typed; although millions of us Protestants think it says that.


2 Corinthians 5 King James Version (KJV)

1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.

Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.

Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.

10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.


(All except Mary; of course...)

907 posted on 08/12/2019 6:37:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mom MD
Scripture tells us the dead are with Christ.

It tells me that the dead are SLEEPING; awaiting the Last Trump.


1 Thessalonians 4:13 
Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope.
 
 
Daniel 12:2 
Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
 
 
John 11:12-13 
His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.” 
Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep.
 

1 Corinthians 15:51-52 
Listen, I tell you a mystery:
We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.
For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
 

Ephesians 5:14 
This is why it is said: “Wake up, sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.”
 
  

 

908 posted on 08/12/2019 6:39:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mom MD
Scripture tells us the dead are with Christ.

If this is so; just WHO are the 'dead in Christ' that will rise from their tombs at His coming?

909 posted on 08/12/2019 6:39:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I was wondering.


910 posted on 08/12/2019 6:40:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN
Does Paul tell you that God will bring with Jesus those who have died in Christ in 1 Thess 4:13-17?


Well; let's look at the text and find out

1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 New King James Version (NKJV)

 

13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen [a]asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who [b]sleep in Jesus.

15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are [c]asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.


 

I guess it depends on how someone interprets:  God will bring with Him.   It mentions no time frame and it mentions no direction.

However, the Scripture says Lord Himself will descend from heaven, not mentioning anyone else coming with Him.

the dead in Christ are going to be rising; right? from where?  It sure does NOT say they are descending from Heaven!

911 posted on 08/12/2019 6:51:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

The direction is implied, if you think it through with open mind not preplaced notions. If Jesus is in Heaven (second and/or third Heaven and He is) then bringing with Him would indicate bringing from where He is.


912 posted on 08/12/2019 7:07:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Elsie; Mom MD; imardmd1; boatbums; metmom; Iscool; aMorePerfectUnion
Do you believe we have a body, a soul, and a spirit? The body of someone dead for centuries has likely turned to dust. The behavior mechanism, or soul (made up of mind, emotion, and will) is no longer active in a dead person, so it is characterized as ‘asleep’ like when you fall asleep at night and are no longer ‘doing behaviors’. It is however with the alive spirit.

The spirit is with the Lord Christ because that is the part of you which has the Holy Spirit seal of Promise. Since the soul and spirit are inseparable, the soul is with the alive spirit with the Lord Christ. That is what God brings with Jesus, to the Rapture transformation event where the soul/spirit is united to a new fit for eternity body, like Christ has now..

913 posted on 08/12/2019 7:16:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN
The direction is implied, if you think it through with open mind not preplaced notions.

I'm just readin' the text. I'm kinda a Sola Scriptura fella.

914 posted on 08/12/2019 7:18:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

I don’t know how to conjure up various ways; the bits and pieces that make up a human being; interact.

All I can do is to read the words and see where they lead me.


915 posted on 08/12/2019 7:20:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Yes, you are on occasion a bonehead. God is not offended if you pause occasionally to think. when you do, His Spirit upon your human spirit can affect your mind portion of your soul, to make connections of the Word of God.


916 posted on 08/12/2019 7:21:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN
Since the soul and spirit are inseparable,

I don't know this.


What I do think I know is that there isn't gonna be any Christians wandering around in heaven BEFORE the GWT judgement.

917 posted on 08/12/2019 7:21:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN
You got that right!

Thinking is fun; reading is fundamental.

918 posted on 08/12/2019 7:23:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

No wandering ... after the Rapture there’s a wedding abd a feast, and of course before those the Bema Judgment for rewards.


919 posted on 08/12/2019 7:35:35 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: af_vet_1981; ealgeone
If Luther is not saved, ... the solas go up in flames too, so to speak; therefore he must be defended at all costs..

Well, I think that's a pretty ignorant thing to say! Luther didn't invent the "solas" they are clearly taught in Scripture. But if you want to assert everything Luther taught can be discredited because of how he spoke about the Jews in his later years - and nobody has said they approved of it, then you'll have to toss out Catholicism - they were WORSE and they also did more than speak against them. Ever hear about the Crusades? If anyone is interested knowing the truth about how the Jews were treated by the Roman Catholic church read History of the Jews.

920 posted on 08/12/2019 7:36:05 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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