Pope Speaks Out Against Suicide of Dutch Girl — Demonic Tweets Follow

The Eponymous Flower ^ | June 6, 2019 | Giuseppe Nardi

[NorthMountain]

We live in interesting times.

And I make no pretense of being the fearless advocate for Jesus, His Truth, and His Gospel, that my state in life calls me to be.

So if a brother (or sister) would occasionally see fit to pray for me, I wouldn’t object.

[hinckley buzzard]

The primary indication for ECT is actively suicidal depression. It comes at a cost, ie scrambled cognition and destruction of orderly memory. By any ordinary criteria it is a highly hazardous last ditch procedure.

As a psychologist for over 40 years I have worked with many patients who had had ECT, and I can verify that while it may (or may not) save lives acutely it comes at the cost of long term disability. May as well use the lobotomy trick.

[The KG9 Kid]

May I please see a source for:

“Adolescent female anorexia is rampant in the Netherlands, and one in 10 dies of it. One in ten.”

[frogjerk]

N9, it is not strange. Everyone of us needs prayer for our own conversion. He is a human being like all of us with all of our failings.

[piusv]

Pope Francis found clear words against suicide and euthanasia.

To be clear, Bergoglio did not speak against "suicide", but "assisted suicide". He has not taught the traditional Catholic teaching against "suicide".

[Mrs. Don-o]

This was quoted from her mother in De Gelderlander (Dutch), as quoted (in English) here, in The Insider

[Mrs. Don-o]

It seems that Pope Francis leaves things up in the air for others to interpret --- way, way too much.

When Italy was considering a living will bill in 2017(which, shockingly, overwhelmingly passed) Pope Francis was quoted as saying "It is clear that not adopting, or else suspending, disproportionate measures means avoiding overzealous treatment," and making other remarks about the right to decline "heroic" treatment. This is perfectly sound moral theology, but the bill wasn't just upholding opting against unbearable, futile treatment --- it was OK'ing also the cessation of nutrition/hydration, which results in death as intended.

So the pope said things which are objectively, morally true, but did not speak to the salient point at hand, which was intentional death by starvation.

Supporters of the bill brandished his quotes, which helped push this terrible bill over the top.

[piusv]

I don’t think you got my point. The article states that Bergoglio condemned suicide. He does not. He only mentions assisted suicide. Two different things.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Thank you.

[The KG9 Kid]

I checked this and found that 0.008 percent of Dutch women between 16-24 suffer from anorexia nervosa. Eight cases for every 100,000 women in The Netherlands for that age group. Slightly higher for bulimia nervosa.

That’s lower than the USA significantly for both figures in that age group in the same sampling rate.

Statistically, this is about the same cause of death in The Netherlands for women in that same age group who perish from complications of pregnancy and/or childbirth.

Sad, but hardly anything approaching rampant.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Thank you for having the due diligence to look up the stats. What Noe’s mother had to say was all I had to go on.