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1 posted on 11/05/2018 6:07:05 PM PST by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

Purgatory does not exist.


2 posted on 11/05/2018 6:10:26 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Gamecock

I looked for the concept of purgatory from people who might know. You know, guys like Matthew Luke or John. Or that Paul guy. Didn’t find anything.


3 posted on 11/05/2018 6:10:55 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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Bookmark


4 posted on 11/05/2018 6:11:13 PM PST by Mercat
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CARM is a rabidly anti-Catholic site. Not interested.


5 posted on 11/05/2018 6:11:43 PM PST by bwest
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To: Gamecock

Yeshua has cleansed me of all my sins.


6 posted on 11/05/2018 6:14:38 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Gamecock

Of course. Spend a few millennia in the Cosmic Washing Machine, and you’re good for eternity. No “Blood of the Lamb” necessary.


7 posted on 11/05/2018 6:14:43 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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There has never been a time that the Church has not prayed for the dead. Implicit in this practice is the belief that her prayers for the dead are in some way efficacious. God bless.


10 posted on 11/05/2018 6:18:08 PM PST by eastsider
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Sopranos-Paulie On Purgatory

You add up all your mortal sins, multiply that number by 50, then you add up all your venial sins and multiply that by 25. You add 'em together, and that's your sentence.

14 posted on 11/05/2018 6:27:46 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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A major fault of Protestantism is that it thinks that the only damage caused by sin is juridical or legalistic. But sin damages the soul in addition to being an offense against God. Thus, even after sins are forgiven their wounds still exist. The cleansing of Purgatory addresses these wounds; its effects are medicinal, not merely juridical.


16 posted on 11/05/2018 6:32:55 PM PST by Petrosius
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Not only that but it denies the sufficiency of God’s Word.


17 posted on 11/05/2018 6:33:51 PM PST by Salvavida
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“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God. Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9. It is so sad that some think their salvation depends on something they must do. They can never be sure they have done enough. This is a GIFT to all who believe. There cannot be such a place as purgatory or one is denying that what Christ did was enough.


19 posted on 11/05/2018 6:36:44 PM PST by Wm F Buckley Republican (?)
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The work of Christ Jesus was fully accomplished on the Holy Cross. Our Savior pronounced it so, “ It Is finished.”

Our work will be finished, purified, “refined in fire, as silver”. Some things were a given. Thus, the money and prayer offerings for the dead apply to this purgation, and are scriptural.

The Protestant writer is short a few books.


33 posted on 11/05/2018 6:55:59 PM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Ed & Academia are the FARM TEAM for more Marxists coming, infinitum.)
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It’s a two sided coin. While a person may be forgiven, they may not forgive themselves, and suffer from their guilt. So purgatory might be a place for them to find forgiveness in their hearts for their own sins, so they can clearly see the forgiveness that has always been there for them.


36 posted on 11/05/2018 7:05:01 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberals have become moralistic, dogmatic, sententious, self-righteous, pinch-faced prudes.)
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Yes.

Next question.


49 posted on 11/05/2018 7:41:26 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Gamecock

Why do Jews pray for the dead?


60 posted on 11/05/2018 9:04:23 PM PST by Romulus
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When Nathan told David that his sin was forgiven, was he lying?


61 posted on 11/05/2018 9:07:05 PM PST by Romulus
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CARM hasn’t gotten any smarter in the last 20 years.


62 posted on 11/05/2018 9:09:54 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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Does purgatory deny the sufficiency of Christ's sacrifice?

Yes. That's exactly what it does which is why the Scriptures make no mention of it, the Apostles never taught it, it was unheard of in the first centuries of the Christian churches, it evolved from pagan religions and is why the Orthodox never accepted it.

73 posted on 11/05/2018 11:43:49 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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Agree - If anyone’s Word is His Bond, it’s God...


74 posted on 11/06/2018 2:04:36 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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Somehow, in all this commentary
I am reminded of a wonderful book by CS Lewis

The Great Divorce

https://www.wordonfire.org/resources/article/why-you-should-read-cs-lewis-the-great-divorce/5128/

It, and Til We Have Faces are my favorite works by him

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Till_We_Have_Faces


93 posted on 11/06/2018 6:04:13 AM PST by HangnJudge
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