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To: srmorton

Really? You conflate adaptation to evolution and call yourself a scientist? When did science stop being skeptical of groupthink? Name one transitory fossil.

I understand believing Creation would cost you your job, but please don’t play your games here. If God can’t create the universe then there must not be heaven or Salvation either.


161 posted on 06/13/2018 7:10:10 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: bray
You apparently don't understand the theory of evolution as well as you think you do. Darwin called his theory “decent with modification” and natural selection is the mechanism whereby it was thought to occur. Organisms that possess the genetic differences which allow them to survive better (in other words ADAPT) to environmental changes that other members of the species cannot (”survival of the fittest”) are going to be the ones to reproduce successfully. Their genes will then be the ones represented in the population.

By the way, I live in NC (part of the "Bible Belt") and have had my current teaching job for almost 35 years so I am really not afraid my that my Christian faith will cost me my job! In fact, my love and concern for my students is in large part a result of the fact that I was loved and raised by Christian parents and that I was first loved by God!

173 posted on 06/13/2018 8:45:36 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: bray; srmorton
bray to srmorton: "Really?
You conflate adaptation to evolution and call yourself a scientist?
When did science stop being skeptical of groupthink?
Name one transitory fossil."

But adaptation and evolution are exactly the same thing, same process, same results only the time periods can vary.
Adaption or "micro-evolution" is generally considered more short-term up to thousands of years and producing new breeds, varieties & sub-species.
Evolution in the Darwinian sense of "origin of species" is thought of as more long-term, hundreds of thousands of years to many millions & beyond, producing, over time, new species, genera, families & orders, etc.

But the distinctions are totally artificial and the lines non-existent in nature, since the process is the same throughout, accumulating generation to generation until one sub-group can no longer interbreed with its formerly closely related cousins.
Then we call it a new species or genera.

As for "transitory fossils," again: they're all transitory, but here yet again is a listing of dozens of well known sequences.

bray: "I understand believing Creation would cost you your job, but please don’t play your games here."

But bray is the only one playing games here.

bray: "If God can’t create the universe then there must not be heaven or Salvation either."

But of course God created the Universe and everything in it, that's not the issue here.
The issue here is whether physical evidence left by God as He created can be trusted as validly suggesting His methodology?
Science says "yes" and bray says "no", but all of bray's reasoning is faulty and based on a particular reading of the Bible rather than natural science.

189 posted on 06/16/2018 1:07:56 PM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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