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Baptist Congregation Votes Jesus Statue Out for Being 'Too Catholic'
Catholic News Agency ^ | 5/30/18 | Mary Rezac

Posted on 05/30/2018 4:56:29 PM PDT by marshmallow


In this 2007 file photo, Bert Baker, an amateur artist, had recently finished a 7-foot-tall sculpture of Christ at Red Bank Baptist Church. Credit: Gerry Melendez/The State Newspaper, Columbia, SC

Charleston, S.C., May 30, 2018 / 04:01 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- Jesus is being evicted from a South Carolina church, and he must be out by the end of the month.

Red Bank Baptist Church in Lexington, about 120 miles northeast of Charleston, has voted to remove a statue of Christ and its accompanying reliefs after 11 years, because they are believed to be too “Catholic in nature”.

The white, hand-carved statue in question shows Christ with his outstretched and stepping out of the wall, while the reliefs depict images from Christ's life, death and resurrection.

Red Bank Baptist Church leaders sent a letter to the artist, Bert Baker Jr., earlier this month, informing him that the congregation had voted to remove the statue because it was being perceived as a Catholic icon and was causing confusion among churchgoers.

“We understand that this is not a Catholic icon, however, people perceive it in these terms. As a result, it is bringing into question the theology and core values of Red Bank Baptist Church," church leaders Jeff Wright and Mike Dennis said in the letter.

Baker, a former member of the church’s congregation himself, was commissioned to make the statue for Red Bank in 2007.

In a response letter, Baker told the church leaders that he wanted the Christ statue to appear to be stepping out in a symbol of the Lord’s commission, and that the other images in the reliefs were based on basic facts about Christ's life which can be found in the Bible.

“Under each arm the reliefs depict scriptural and historical events that we as Christians........

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: baptist; gravenimage; statue
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To: Missouri gal
Try to imagine what life would be like if there were absolutely no images allowed anywhere, and you ought to be able to see why this is an error.

Millions of blind people experience this daily.

121 posted on 05/31/2018 3:47:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mr Rogers
...as a military guy, surely I know to follow the chain of command...

This is interesting.

Just WHAT does this chain look like?

Can you post an organizational chart?

122 posted on 05/31/2018 3:49:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ransomed
The funniest and saddest thing is that it probably winds up being inflicted on some Catholic church, right?

I think the Catholics can do it ok themselves without any Baptist hand-me-downs.



123 posted on 05/31/2018 3:54:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vendome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology


124 posted on 05/31/2018 4:00:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: chuckles
..."this is the perfect example of the hatred and bias that non Catholics show to Catholics and it happens frequently here on FR"....

This thought could have been lifted right from some FReeper's homepage!

125 posted on 05/31/2018 4:01:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: chuckles
There is some sort of deafness I have seen on RCC's my whole life where they refuse to see or hear what God has told them.

It is called: Confirmation Bias.

GoOglE® it

126 posted on 05/31/2018 4:03:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: narses
Catholics do not worship images of Jesus or Mary.

Long time no see, Dude!

Can I expect to see images posted by you in the future?

127 posted on 05/31/2018 4:05:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: chuckles
If I was going to worship Washington, I would worship Benjamin too.

Not ME!

I worship MY Benjamins at LEAST a hundred times more than my Washingtons!!

128 posted on 05/31/2018 4:06:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
Wear a scapular?


 

For a low; LOW! price of ONLY $11.95...
 
 
 
 
 
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129 posted on 05/31/2018 4:09:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
Mary, Our Life, Our Sweetness, Our Hope
by St. Alphonsus de Liguori
St. Alphonsus de Liguori explains how Mary is our life, how She is our sweetness, and how She is our hope.

The historical record of the worship of Mary accumulated by St. Alphonsus de Liguori who wrote “The Glories of Mary” in the year 1745, which has been since translated into English and printed again and again and again with the full affirmation and imprimatur of the official Roman Catholic Church.  In this book there is the sum of all the glories of Mary which has been vouchsafe to the Roman Catholic Church and the Church itself calls upon all its constituents to give Mary that honor she is due.  She is identified as Mary, our Queen; Mary, our mother; Mary, our life; Mary, our sweetness; Mary, our hope; Mary, our help; Mary, our Mediatress; Mary, our advocate; Mary, our guardian; and Mary, our salvation.  It is said that Mary delivers us from hell, Mary delivers us from purgatory, and Mary leads us to heaven.  And it should be said that de Liguori, who collected all the Marion dogma and devotion, was himself one of the most celebrated and revered authorities in the Roman Catholic Church.  De Liguori was himself a cardinal in life, and a saint in death.

 

Jesus said "Without Me you can do nothing". In this crisis which looms ahead of us, Our Lady has told us that we need Her help, Her intercession. We must ask for Her help with the Rosary and the Scapular.

At Fatima, Our Lady told us very plainly that "Only I can help you". Today more than ever is this so true.

Pray the Rosary and sacrifice yourself for Our Lady.

I urge you to also make some sacrifices as Our Lady of Fatima asked us. For those who are able, do some fasting. If you can, abstain from meat by eating meat only during one meal a day. Try to do this for two days, even ten days or 30 days. Of course we should abstain totally from meat every Friday.

 

 Jesus and Mary — Our Hope

It is so urgent that we reach as many souls as possible before it is too late. Let us be of good cheer and remember the words of Jesus to each of us, "It's never too late to have recourse to Jesus and Mary." That is why it is so important to reach the many millions of souls who do not know this, and who do not know the grave dangers lying in wait for their souls.

No, we must never lose hope. Mary is our hope. She can obtain for us what we cannot by ourselves. Read what St. Alphonsus has to say regarding confidence in Our Lady's intercession in "Mary Leads Her Servants to Heaven". Father Manelli also reminds us of the importance of devotion to Our Lady. (See "Hail Mary, Full of Grace"). Our Blessed Mother tells us to turn to Her in confidence. She tells us repeatedly to ask Her intercession through the frequent fervent praying of the Rosary. (See "The Rosary"). She tells us we must pray the Rosary every day. She wants us to pray it many times a day.

 

http://fatima.org/crusader/cr38/cr38pg2.asp

130 posted on 05/31/2018 4:11:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vendome; chuckles
“No one has seen God “


John 14:9 KJV
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father...

131 posted on 05/31/2018 4:14:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

...walkin’; talkin’ honeycomb.


132 posted on 05/31/2018 4:15:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Bikkuri

But they CAN get a nice, seeing-eye dog to guide them.


133 posted on 05/31/2018 4:17:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: marshmallow

Idolatry, clearly prohibited in Exodus 20:3 - 4.


134 posted on 05/31/2018 4:46:51 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yes, God Himself specifically prohibits this in Exodus 20: 3 - 4.


135 posted on 05/31/2018 4:48:49 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: Elsie
They are referring to the verse in Luke that says Jesus went back to Nazareth with Mary and Joseph, and was subject to them.

This does not mean Mary is God's superior. Mary is God's handmaid ---a verse we read every day in evening prayer (Luke 1:46-55, also called the Canticle of Mary and, in the Byzantine tradition, the Ode of the Theotokos.) We Westerners pray it every day in the evening, but the Byzantines pray it in the morning.

People who sing or recite that Mary is the handmaid of the Lord every day of their lives are, shall we say, familiar with her status as handmaid. Not news to us! The paradoxical part about Jesus being "subject" to her means that the person Jesus (who was God and Man) was subject to his mother. And, being obedient to the Commandments, He honored her, and honors her still because she's still His mother.

I don't blame you for not getting all the implications of this instantly. I sure didn't. Most people don't situate this in enough context (not just textual context, but wide cultural context) to get a true spiritual perspective on Jesus being both Mary's Son and her Lord.

It's, like so many things, a paradox. Jesus in His Divine nature was Mary's Creator, in His human nature her descendant. We can marvel in, and delight in, the paradoxes of the Incarnation.

136 posted on 05/31/2018 4:53:26 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I think we all agree on that.)
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To: Elsie
Ambrose, Anselm, Antoninus, Athanasius, Bernadine, Blosius, Bonaventure, St. John Damascene, Ephem, Fulgetius, Guerric, Richard of Laurence, Father Nicholas Gruner, St. Alphonsus de Liguori, Father Stefano Manelli...

and I...

...do not adore Mary.

137 posted on 05/31/2018 4:55:51 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I think we all agree on that.)
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To: Elsie

Just ... wow. How sad. They think Mary is “...the way of our salvation and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom”?

Obviously do not believe: “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” John 14:6 King James Version (KJV)


138 posted on 05/31/2018 5:02:45 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: Salvation
>>**In Catholic theology, they “sacrifice” Jesus on the cross every week as part of their liturgy. The emphasis is on Jesus’s death on the cross.**<<

This is an untrue statement.

Do I have to post the quote from O'Brien in the Faith of Millions??

Or is the very week part of the comment incorrect...as Roman Catholics have Mass every day....several times every day.

139 posted on 05/31/2018 5:10:32 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: marshmallow
Charleston, S.C., May 30, 2018 / 04:01 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- Jesus is being evicted from a South Carolina church, and he must be out by the end of the month.

The writer of this story is indicating that this statue is Jesus himself.

140 posted on 05/31/2018 6:18:20 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000
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