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Salvation and Church
OSV.com ^ | 03-14-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/21/2018 9:30:28 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: boatbums

Placemarker


321 posted on 04/22/2018 3:21:29 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: daniel1212
I do not, as far as i know, but notice that the post at issue was not responding to you, but to salvation.....My oversight.

Jesus is Lord !

322 posted on 04/22/2018 3:22:30 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: Mom MD

Thank you!


323 posted on 04/22/2018 3:22:37 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: infool7; Luircin
If all you've got to offer in a discussion is ridicule, then you have lost the debate.

    Ridicule is the first and last argument of a fool. - Charles Simmons

324 posted on 04/22/2018 3:25:23 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: Salvation

Breathe On Me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiYShNMbJWs&list=RDJiYShNMbJWs&t=18


325 posted on 04/22/2018 3:27:00 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Mom MD; Luircin

Yes, I have put the number of FReepers that actually admit and ascribe to the doctrine of “How I will not be Catholic” as high as maybe eight but I don’t have sufficient evidence to support that claim. Luircin will have to answer for himself if he is in that camp.


326 posted on 04/22/2018 4:21:31 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: infool7

“ascribe to the doctrine of “How I will not be Catholic”

Not a doctrine FRamigo.

Once you know the Savior, and have certainty of salvation, you would never trade it for religious works, endless guilt and rituals.

No one would. It is too rich a joy.


327 posted on 04/22/2018 4:45:44 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: Zeneta

I like this by St. Augustine along those same lines.

Breathe in me, O Holy Spirit, that my thoughts may all be holy.

Act in me, O Holy Spirit, that my work, too, may be holy.

Draw my heart, O Holy Spirit, that I love but what is holy.

Strengthen me, O Holy Spirit, to defend all that is holy.

Guard me, then, O Holy Spirit, that I always may be holy.

Amen.

Have a good day.


328 posted on 04/22/2018 5:08:32 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: infool7

And yet we’re still reducing you to sputtering impotent rage.

Lol.

How’s that working out for you?


329 posted on 04/22/2018 5:25:23 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
No one who seeks truth and finds it comes back to Rome.

You are correct sir. I was an altar boy and confirmed too. I found the REAL Jesus, through the ministry of the Navigators, while I was in the Air Force. It was my own reading of scripture, however, that convinced me, that I would never swim the Tiber. 😁

332 posted on 04/22/2018 5:43:06 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Luircin

The rage must all be in your own head, dear brother in Christ Jesus.

I have only love for you in the hopes that you might more fully share in the joy of our Blessed Lord and Savior


333 posted on 04/22/2018 5:46:47 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: Mark17
It was my own reading of scripture, however, that convinced me, that I would never swim the Tiber.

These days there is no need to swim the Tiber. You can just walk on the backs of hispanics swimming the other direction!

334 posted on 04/22/2018 5:51:55 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Many used to be Romans before they came to faith in Christ. Heck, +10s of millions in South America alone.

It’s happening in the Philippines too bro. Lots of ex Catholics. I even know two ex Muslims as well. 😁🇵🇭

335 posted on 04/22/2018 5:53:43 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17
LOTS of Catholic Priests leaving Romanism too.

Testimonies from ex-Roman Catholic Priests

As an example...

Hugh Farrell Shares Why He Left Rome

Born in Denver, Colorado. Entered the Order of our Lady of Mount Carmel, commonly called the Discalced Carmelite Fathers. Ordained as a priest.

Priestly power to change elements: "The priest, according to the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church, has the power to take ordinary bread and wine, and, by pronouncing the words of the consecration prayer in the sacrifice of the Mass, to change it into the actual body and blood and soul and divinity of Jesus Christ. Hence, since one cannot separate the human nature of Christ from his divinity, the bread and wine, after being changed into the body and blood of Jesus Christ, are entitled to the worship of adoration." (pp. 28)

Temporal punishment due to sins. "I knew from the teachings of the priests and nuns that I could not hope to go directly to heaven after my death. My Roman Catholic catechism taught me that after death I had to pay for the temporal punishment due to my sins. The Roman Catholic Church teaches that 'the souls of the just which, in a moment of death, are burdened with venial sins or temporal punishment due to sin, enter purgatory.'" (p. 29)

Penance. Regarding life in the monastery and doing penance. "These penances consist of standing with the arms outstretched to form a cross, kissing the sandaled feet of the monks, receiving a blow upon the face from the monks, and, at the end of the meal, lying prostrate before the entrance to the refectory so that the departing monks must step over one's body. These, and other penances, are supposed to gain one merit in heaven and increase one's 'spiritual bank account.'" (p. 36)

The Mass and sorcery. "According to the teaching of the Roman Church the priest, no matter how unworthy he may personally be, even if he has just made a pact with the devil for his soul, has the power to change the elements of bread and wine into the actual body and blood, soul and divinity, of Jesus Christ. Provided he pronounces the words of consecration properly and has the intention of consecrating, God must come down on the altar and enter and take over the elements." (p. 39)


336 posted on 04/22/2018 5:59:20 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
More testimonies of Catholic Priests that left Rome to become Chistians
337 posted on 04/22/2018 6:01:14 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: boatbums
"Dictates of (their) conscience" and "strive to live a good life" cannot be interpreted any other way than that faith in Jesus Christ ISN'T necessary for salvation as long as you are a "good person"

Isn’t that about what Pope Frank said, who am I to judge?

338 posted on 04/22/2018 6:09:55 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

It’s certainly what he told that little boy who cried about his atheist daddy who died. Pope Francis told him he didn’t have to worry that his daddy was in hell because he had made sure his kids were baptized Catholics so he was a “good man” and would make it to heaven.


339 posted on 04/22/2018 6:28:16 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
These days there is no need to swim the Tiber. You can just walk on the backs of hispanics swimming the other direction!

No need to do that either bro, since I have no intention of even getting near the river. Besides, I hear that river is polluted and smelly. 😁🤣👎

340 posted on 04/22/2018 6:41:56 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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